Understanding the US - Again

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Gyan » 01 Oct 2018 18:44

What we need is few videos of this Ford lady teaching her class, to contrast it, with her demeanour at Senate Hearing

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Postby UlanBatori » 01 Oct 2018 19:14

he was being interviewed for a job as one of the highest judges in the land, which requires him to display judge like characteristics and given the role of the supreme court not to be overtly partisan, and most importantly not to score own goals by perjuring himself. even republican commentators are writing in the press that BK has failed those tests

all he had to do was to say 'I used to be a bad boy, but I discovered Jesus and I am alright now' - he stayed well away from that line of defence


Kindly consider putting a stop to the pompous cra*. Thx.

Try going into the Indian Supreme Court and Moon Their Honors and hold up pictures with their faces stuck on to a few #orn photos or of cats doing hootchie-kootchie. Hold up a placard saying "Judge Poobah is a Child Molester". Please report back from Tihar on how Dispassionate and Cool Their Honours were... and how they applauded your Exercising Your Constitutional Right to Free Expression.

Or, since it is much closer, try doing that in a British Courtroom: You know, where they sit with powdered wigs and say things like:
Whatevah the witnesses may have said, Gentlemen (no Ladies were allowed) Of The Jury, what-what I say, Remembah! that General O'Dwyah Saved The British Empiah!!


Report back from, what is it? F*artmoor?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 01 Oct 2018 19:24

AFAIK, the reason why there are Judges is not just to read the bloody Constitution and Precedents, it is to EXERCISE HUMAN JUDGEMENT. Which ultimately brings human common sense and yes, the emotions that they trigger, into the picture. Everything else is just Artificial Intelligence, or not even that. And if someone sits before the whole nation and lies that you are a violent rapist etc, and you DON'T get mad, then you have utterly no judgement and no human sensibility. I would expect a good Supreme Court Judge to throw the book at such liars and send them to jail for the rest of their lives. As, IMO, should happen to Feinstein, Durbin, Ford, Avenatti and all the rest - unless they can advance solid FACTS.

This whole setup is plain libel and slander, hiding behind the false claim that they INTENDED to keep it all CONFIDENTIAL. BS! Ford is an extreme partisan Democrat. Feinstein is just plain evil. The Republicans are no angels, but this case is blatant criminal slander.

The excuse that "Oh She Sounds Soo Credible!" is as inane an excuse as I have ever heard. Pakis sound more credible when they claim that Indian Army has raped 1,840,000,000 Kashmir wimmen yesterday. Trained liars sound more credible than untrained casual liars, that is perfectly understandable. The more "credible" she sounds, the less probable it is that she is telling the truth.

Yeah, so now I sound mad. But that is long after some rabid entity on this forum claimed that I was a "Workplace Shooter".

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 01 Oct 2018 21:18

Gets better:

"On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the man's face and starting a fight that ended with one of our mutual friends in jail," the statement said.

During his Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last week, Kavanaugh was repeatedly asked about his drinking habits in high school and college and denied having a problem.


So let's see: The guy THROWS beer, rather than drinking it. With good aim too. And he "started" a fight? (sounds like a "semi-hostile remark" is what started it) but managed to stay clear enough so that when the polis came he was not the one arrested. Sounds like expert navigation there, which required a very clear head ... The Democrat is the one that got dragged off to jail instead. And now :(( about it. How does this become "violent behavior" on BK's part?

I like this guy more and more. If someone makes a "semi-hostile remark", why should one "defuse it" rather than (a) splashing beer in his face (b) beating him up and (c) getting him arrested? That sounds VERY effective and educational.

So again, see the situation: If there was indeed such an incident, there is a Police record of it. But it does not show BK as being involved, or it would have surfaced looong before now. So another slander accusation, another leftist loser.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Yagnasri » 01 Oct 2018 22:02

FBI is under serious pressure now. They have done 6 background checkups on one person on whom they were indirectly alleged to have missed a lot with allegations like he was a boy gang rapist and what not. Further, the President went on hammering them ie their leadership for being political hacks and conducted an illegal and partisan investigation into him. Can they now come back and say "Oops sorry we missed that fact that he is a gang rapist for 6 times" and get away with it?

Unless the Deep State is desperate BK will be confirmed and FBI will find nothing. Remember BK is Bush white house staff and said to close to them. He is part of the establishment. Dems are wrong to pick this fight.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 01 Oct 2018 22:10

A_Gupta wrote:How we know Kavanaugh is lying.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/ ... h-is-lying


More partisan nonsense. For every nonsense article you post there is nonsense from the other side. Give it a rest please.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby ShyamSP » 01 Oct 2018 22:22

Yagnasri wrote:FBI is under serious pressure now. They have done 6 background checkups on one person on whom they were indirectly alleged to have missed a lot with allegations like he was a boy gang rapist and what not. Further, the President went on hammering them ie their leadership for being political hacks and conducted an illegal and partisan investigation into him. Can they now come back and say "Oops sorry we missed that fact that he is a gang rapist for 6 times" and get away with it?

Unless the Deep State is desperate BK will be confirmed and FBI will find nothing. Remember BK is Bush white house staff and said to close to them. He is part of the establishment. Dems are wrong to pick this fight.


Are you attributing partisan motive to deep state and making it some fragile entity that can be politically played, destroyed or supported to make US glorious? Deep state is there but Trump, Clinton, politicians etc are there to provide political narratives which can be politically played, destroyed or supported to keep its public to believe US is glorious. Deepstate and Trump are one and only.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Gyan » 01 Oct 2018 22:48

BK in SC may allow Trump the judicial protection from nutty liberal fed courts, so as to dismantle the current economic model, which is to place all manufacturing in China.

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Postby A_Gupta » 01 Oct 2018 22:55

Trump Is Winning on Trade
The world might protest, but ultimately countries have to deal with the U.S.
https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... da/571795/

President Trump hailed Monday a last-minute agreement with Canada that would in effect rebrand the North American Free Trade Agreement. He called the pact, which also includes Mexico, “a great deal for all three countries [that] solves the many deficiencies and mistakes in nafta.”

The new agreement, announced late Sunday, is being labeled the United States Mexico Canada Agreement, or USMCA, and it ends months of uncertainty over what Trump’s longtime aversion to nafta would mean for the accord, which went into effect in 1994.

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Among the most significant changes: U.S. dairy farmers will have marginally more access to Canada’s market, a win for the U.S.; the mechanism used to resolve trade disputes is being preserved, despite strong U.S. opposition to it; Canadian and Mexican auto imports will have some exemptions from U.S. auto tariffs; and the new trade agreement will have a sunset clause—16 years, up from the five years the U.S. had demanded. The agreement must be approved by the legislatures in all three countries, which is by no means assured. Until then, nafta remains in place.

The new agreement shows not only how Trump is willing to risk alliances to get the kinds of agreements he believes benefit American workers, but also how, despite protests, U.S. partners have little choice but to go along with much of what the world’s largest economy wants. It also shows how, ultimately, Trump is starting to refashion the Western global order, which the U.S. constructed in the wake of World War II, to align with his own worldview: more transactional, more bilateral, and less reliant on permanent alliances.


This last is necessary for India to understand, take advantage of, and to ponder whether it will carry over to a post-Trump administration.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 02 Oct 2018 06:56

Wonder what happens if COTUS approves and the other two don't: will US continue to follow NAFTA? I doubt that very much. Looks like he got his election promise: re-negotiate NAFTA. In time for the election campaign. Although it is not at all clear that the NewFTA is better for US than the old one. (oh, wait, NPR said this morning that tariffs on steel and aluminum stay).

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 02 Oct 2018 07:02

So now the only outstanding international Bissing Contest is vs. cheen. Although for now it looks like Yoo Ess stock market is rising while cheen is headed the other way.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby chola » 02 Oct 2018 07:55

This is the United States in a nutshell: competition is to be embraced as a challenge.

Cheen is providing the bogeyman the US sorely wanted since the collapse of USSR.

And the US is not taking no for an answer. The chinis are literally shitting in their pants talking about “cooperation” when the US is telling them directly to their faces that they want the chinis to act as the foil, the competition. LOL

https://m.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/2166476/us-tells-china-we-want-competition-not-cooperation


US tells China: we want competition not cooperation

Event at Washington embassy highlights difference in the two sides’ perspectives as senior Trump aide Matt Pottinger delivers blunt message


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UPDATED : Monday, 1 Oct 2018, 5:53PM


The United States sees its relationship with China as a competition, a senior member of the Trump administration has told Chinese diplomats at an event that highlighted the gulf between the two sides’ world views.

While Cui Tiankai, China’s ambassador to the US, used the reception at his country’s embassy in Washington to highlight the importance of cooperation, Matt Pottinger, a senior director for Asian affairs on the National Security Council, made America’s intentions clear.

“In the United States, competition is not a four-letter word,” Pottinger said.


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“We at the Trump administration have updated our China policy to bring the concept of competition to the forefront. It’s right there at the top of the president’s national security strategy.”

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The notion of freedom and competition sat “at the core” of America’s democracy and market economy, Pottinger said, adding that failing to acknowledge the competition between the two sides would lead to misunderstandings and miscalculations.


“If names cannot be correct, then language is not in accordance with the truth of things. And if language is not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success,” he said, using a quotation from Confucius.


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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Gyan » 02 Oct 2018 13:23

USA does seem to have got anything out of new NAFTA deal. Was Trump too desperate to close a deal to prevent all out war with all the economic partners?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Philip » 02 Oct 2018 14:04

Trump is now trump-eting....pardon the pun, that India is rushing to do a similar deal with it, as if we are like a loyal puppy racing towards master to get a bone as a reward for wagging our tails and "fetching" for master whenever he commands us .Nauseating, the way we are treated like grovelling servants by the white massa.

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Postby Gyan » 02 Oct 2018 16:15

China is too far ahead in manufacturing. 25% duty will not make a difference for atleast 5 years till other nations pick up the slack. By that time China would have developed the internal market.

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Postby chola » 02 Oct 2018 16:33

Gyan wrote:USA does seem to have got anything out of new NAFTA deal. Was Trump too desperate to close a deal to prevent all out war with all the economic partners?


The US got everything it wanted from the new NAFTA deal.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/02/new-nafta-deal-trump-team-can-now-focus-ire-on-china-trade-war.html
The big differences are in the automotive market, where higher standards are designed to force more car parts to be made in North America rather than in cheaper labor markets, and in opening Canada’s dairy markets to US exports. Both moves are likely to raise consumer prices in the US, but they match the America First policies pushed by Trump and his trade negotiator, Robert Lighthizer.


Just like the US got everything it wanted from the SoKo deal:
http://sonorannews.com/2018/09/27/trade-deal-south-korea-vindicates-trumps-tough-approach/

Japan is next.

The US doesn’t need help with China so the allies better not try using that as leverage. lol

Seriously, this is our lesson too. India is a “nice-to-have” counterbalance to Cheen. But the US doesn’t really need anyone else to firmly put Cheen in its place. We can’t overplay our hand. Holding onto to relations with Iran or Russia out of habit does not help us one iota in this world Trump is crafting.

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Postby A_Gupta » 02 Oct 2018 17:51

Kavanaugh might have already known of the Ramirez allegations (second accuser) published by the New Yorker in September and was already planning his defense in July. But then he lied to the Senate Committee when he said the first he ever heard of it was from the New Yorker. So much for "partisan nonsense".

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Postby Mort Walker » 02 Oct 2018 18:09

Philip wrote:Trump is now trump-eting....pardon the pun, that India is rushing to do a similar deal with it, as if we are like a loyal puppy racing towards master to get a bone as a reward for wagging our tails and "fetching" for master whenever he commands us .Nauseating, the way we are treated like grovelling servants by the white massa.


One of the few times I agree with you.

The problem is the US dollar is the currency for international trade even for the Russians and Chinese for the next 20 years. Real politick forces the GOI to negotiate with the US. With the US being the larges economy and one the largest source for FDI, and the USD being used by everyone else for investment, the GOI has no other choice. I would bet the S-400 deal doesn’t get signed immediately either with Russia too.

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Postby Mort Walker » 02 Oct 2018 18:12

A_Gupta wrote:Kavanaugh might have already known of the Ramirez allegations (second accuser) published by the New Yorker in September and was already planning his defense in July. But then he lied to the Senate Committee when he said the first he ever heard of it was from the New Yorker. So much for "partisan nonsense".


It is. If you read the AP, Ramirez was interviewed by the FBI on Sunday and she can’t recall details. She’s making it up as part of the resist campaign or more correctly the urban naxal campaign.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Yagnasri » 02 Oct 2018 18:48

She can not remember anything. Period. Not certain herself. Last hope for Dems is FBI. I have already posted my view on FBI enquiries which will end with this Friday.

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Postby jrjrao » 02 Oct 2018 19:32

Just FYI. Professor Fair, our well-known expert on Terroristan aka Pakisatan, is in the news for lighting up her twitter feed with some truly incredible posts:

Georgetown professor says white GOP senators ‘deserve miserable deaths’ after Kavanaugh hearing
https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgetown-p ... gh-hearing

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Postby UlanBatori » 02 Oct 2018 19:48

Meanwhile, a whole lot of non-prospects for SCOTUS nomination

His gender reveal party was on April 23, 2017, according to CNN affiliate KGUN-TV. Expectant parents throw such parties to tell family and friends the gender of their baby. In this case, Dickey's plan was to shoot a rifle at a target containing Tannerite, a highly explosive substance that would have exploded to reveal either blue powder for a boy or pink powder for a girl.
Dickey shot the target, causing it to explode and start a fire that spread and resulted in what was known as the Sawmill Fire, the Department of Justice said.
The Sawmill Fire burned nearly 47,000 acres owned by the state of Arizona and various federal agencies. The Coronado National Forest is federal land operated by the US Forest Service.
Firefighters from at least 20 agencies fought the fire for about a week, the affiliate reported.
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Postby UlanBatori » 02 Oct 2018 19:50

jrjrao wrote:Just FYI. Professor Fair, our well-known expert on Terroristan aka Pakisatan, is in the news for lighting up her twitter feed with some truly incredible posts:

Georgetown professor says white GOP senators ‘deserve miserable deaths’ after Kavanaugh hearing
https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgetown-p ... gh-hearing


Informed diagnosis: I think this person has an anger-management problem resulting from the PCP Sydrome (Prolonged Contact with Pakis). Ts-tsk. Could happen to anyone. Those tweets are not really going to help her a lot.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 02 Oct 2018 20:04

It occurs to me that what Fizzoner the Beer-Worshipper is accused of doing, is less than what Tee Essay does to ppl daily and far less than what Pleet Bhalala did to Debyanibibi.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Gus » 02 Oct 2018 20:09

It is really a simple question - did kavanaugh lie to the committee or not.

everything else about blah blah blah are just that.

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Postby UlanBatori » 02 Oct 2018 20:32

Wonder what would have happened if he had simply said: "I do not recall" like all the Iran-Contra "witnesses". Scratch that, under present Presumption of Guilt If Accused Without Evidence, he would have been nailed.

BTW, someone told me this "reason" why the #1 Accuser might not remember where she was attacked: apparently people who cannot drive (she was only 15) often have no idea where they are taken. That makes sense. However, that "when" is not remembered, is nonsense, for something that traumatic (if it was indeed traumatic rather than practically a weekly occurrence on dates/Parties). That is a clear indication of either deliberate refusal to give verifiable/ debunkable facts, or hallucination. We'll see what the Eph Bee Eye hallucinates. :)

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Postby Mort Walker » 02 Oct 2018 21:08

Gus wrote:It is really a simple question - did kavanaugh lie to the committee or not.

everything else about blah blah blah are just that.


He didn’t.

The ghadas (donkeys) of the committee announced within minutes of fizzoner’s nomination that they would oppose him tooth and nail with whatever it takes. With that going in to the hearings, the deck was already stacked against him.

The donkeys if they get the votes come November can impeach fizzoner, orange orangutan and his holy roller VP.

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Postby UlanBatori » 02 Oct 2018 21:59

Mort: U mean they weren't totally 400% UNBIASED in their evaulation of Fizzoner?

Surely u jest! C this from Ay See Ell Yoo

Ulan –

We're fighting to defeat Judge Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination with everything we've got.

Senate leaders have said that they will allow the FBI to investigate multiple allegations of sexual assault and misconduct – for one week. That means we have just a few days to convince our senators of what is painfully obvious: Kavanaugh is not fit to sit on the Supreme Court.

Now's the time to act: Call your senators today and demand they oppose Kavanaugh's nomination.
CALL NOW

A vote to confirm Kavanaugh tells survivors of sexual abuse that their experiences can be disregarded if they inconvenience their powerful abusers – and that's a grave injustice to Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and millions of people with experiences like hers. :((

We must make clear to our elected officials: If you vote to confirm Kavanaugh despite credible allegations of sexual assault, we will remember at the ballot box. Make your call now – it's time to put senators on notice.

Thanks for fighting,

Faiz Shakir

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PS: We need to do everything we can to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation. Text ACLU to 82623 or sign up here to be the first to know how to take action to defeat this nomination.
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Ulan –

Imagine an America in which a man who has sexually assaulted women sits on the highest court, wielding the power to judge the whole nation.

Fewer than 24 hours after Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's testimony accusing Judge Kavanaugh of sexual assault, the Senate Judiciary Committee decided to plow through the confirmation process and vote to confirm him as our next Supreme Court Justice. At the eleventh hour, senators finally agreed to move forward with an FBI investigation before the full Senate vote.

But Thursday's hearing, along with the inadequate investigation of the allegations of sexual misconduct have made this much clear: Kavanaugh cannot sit on the highest court of the land.

We have high standards :rotfl: for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. That standard is not met when there are credible allegations of sexual assault against a nominee. The burden of proof is on the nominee – and Judge Kavanaugh has thus far failed to prove himself fit to serve. {New Constitutional point from the American CIVIL LIBERTIES Union}

Our elected leaders are willing to more fully investigate the nominee for this lifetime appointment. This is the direct result of courageous people who've demanded justice. We the people will keep fighting back with everything we have. We're mobilizing the full force of the ACLU – with millions of supporters like you – to stop the confirmation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

The ACLU has argued in front of the Supreme Court more than any other private organization in our nearly 100-year history – so we don't take this lightly. After hearing from both him and Dr. Blasey Ford, it became strikingly clear that this is not someone who can sit on the highest court for life and make decisions about our civil rights and liberties for generations to come. And he is certainly not someone who should be allowed to rule on the rights women have over their own bodies.

Members of the Senate Judiciary Committee have shown us they don't take sexual assault allegations seriously, but we do. We must remind senators that they work for us – and that we, the people, will not accept Kavanaugh as a Supreme Court Justice.{Hey, Rakesh!!! The ACLU agrees with me!!}

Dr. Blasey Ford put everything on the line to perform her civic duty. Let that be an inspiration, because it's going to take every single one of us to stop Kavanaugh from sitting on the highest court of the land. Before the vote goes to the full Senate – expected in just a week – we're going to give this everything we've got. Stay tuned for more ways to fight back.

Thanks for raising your voice,

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby chetak » 02 Oct 2018 22:15

UlanBatori wrote:So now the only outstanding international Bissing Contest is vs. cheen. Although for now it looks like Yoo Ess stock market is rising while cheen is headed the other way.


The hans are pissing because of Trump and so far it has been a no contest.

Fortunately for India, trump's long and curving shot into the han goal, rattling the nets with the unexpected but inspired IMF strike has set the cat among the pigeons as far as the CPEC/OBOR/BRI game is concerned.

Even the pakis are pissing their pants and scrambling to reduce the han investments in CPEC to reduce debt exposure.

So far, India has come out smelling of roses and her every move with regard to the CPEC fiasco has paid off.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby JE Menon » 02 Oct 2018 23:54

>>So far, India has come out smelling of roses and her every move with regard to the CPEC fiasco has paid off.

Hameen!!!

And so far, not a peep from our gloriously objective media about this at all.

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Postby Rakesh » 03 Oct 2018 00:59

:rotfl: The irony!!!!

Brett Kavanaugh’s Comments In That Hearing Raise Ethics Questions That Will Likely Follow Him Whether Or Not He's Confirmed
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zo ... reme-court

The ethical sticking points for Kavanaugh are multifold whether he joins the Supreme Court or stays on the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit, where he currently sits. Kavanaugh's angry jabs at Democrats and liberal groups could be grounds for recusal requests in either court. Ethics complaints have been filed against Kavanaugh in the DC Circuit, including at least one claiming he lied about the sexual assault allegations against him. Ethics experts say there's no precedent for what happens to those complaints if he's elevated to the Supreme Court. For now, they're under the purview of the DC Circuit chief judge — former Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland.

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Postby UlanBatori » 03 Oct 2018 01:06

How come Garland's not recused then I wonder. A more blatant conflict of interest I cannot imagine. I hope that by the end of this tamasha, the habit of these frivolous delays and filings is squashed in a no-nonsense manner. I think the voters will get the message, and convey the same in November. The "Hearings" became a circus due to the very people now basically asking the Judge not to function. Just that fact should earn a Contempt of Court ruling and a good healthy jail term for the "filers". Plus disbarment.

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Postby UlanBatori » 03 Oct 2018 01:21

Speaking of conflicts of interest, one must learn from the Ethically-Pure MSM on how to avoid them:
New York Times says it was a mistake to enlist writer who posted anti-Kavanaugh tweet to report on him
From CNN's Oliver Darcy
The New York Times said on Tuesday that it should not have allowed a staff writer who had tweeted negatively about Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court, to report on the judge for a story published Monday.
Emily Bazelon, who is a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine and a fellow at Yale Law School, co-authored a story published on Monday about a bar fight in 1985 during which Kavanaugh was accused of throwing ice at another customer. The Times' story was based on a police report about the incident.
But Bazelon had posted a tweet in July in which she called Kavanaugh a "5th vote for a hard-right turn on voting rights and so much more that will harm the democratic process & prevent a more equal society."
That tweet drew the attention of a number of critics who contended Bazelon's opposition to Kavanaugh presented a conflict of interest for The Times.
Democrats desperately attack Judge Kavanaugh for throwing ice during college. What motivated New York Times reporter to write this ridiculous story? Throwing ice 33 years ago, or her opinion of Judge Kavanaugh in July? https://t.co/JwiP3ELqkD
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Postby Gus » 03 Oct 2018 01:24

JE Menon wrote:>>So far, India has come out smelling of roses and her every move with regard to the CPEC fiasco has paid off.

Hameen!!!

And so far, not a peep from our gloriously objective media about this at all.


that's because they hate trump, but don't know how much they can use trump to bash modi. they tried an == on trump modi but that does not work out.

it was easy with ombaba.. :lol:

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 03 Oct 2018 01:27

And the theater of hypocrisy Prize goes to...

By late Monday, more than 800 Harvard Law School alumni had signed a letter calling for the school to rescind Kavanaugh's lecturer appointment.
"HLS must send a clear message that it takes sexual violence seriously," the letter reads, and adds that the accusations made against Kavanaugh, including those by Christine Blasey Ford of sexual and physical assault, are "credible and grave."
"They seriously call into question his character and morality," the letter reads, "and should disqualify him from a lifetime appointment as a Supreme Court Justice" and a Harvard Law School lecturer.
"We believe that Judge Kavanaugh's appointment as an HLS lecturer sends a message to law students, and in particular female students, that powerful men are above the law, and that obstructive, inappropriate behavior will be rewarded," the letter reads. "HLS would be tarnished to have him on campus in any position of authority."


HARVARD lawyers? ETHICAL? None of them sex offenders? :rotfl: These child-molesters should be sent a link to "Legally Blonde".
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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby ramana » 03 Oct 2018 01:30

UB, One lawyer told me the instability in Roe vs Wade.

Justice Blackmun did not base the right to abortion on a direct right but on a non-existent right to privacy (RTP).
This RTP is not explicit in the Bill of Rights but taking the sum total of all the rights enumerated, Blackmun argued that they exist in the pen-umbra of the implicit right to privacy which is what all these rights protect.
So a strict Constitutionalist would not find it in the Constitution and could overturn it.
However BK agreed that Roe vs Wade is a settled judgment and he would not seek to overturn it.

I think the Democrats and the moderate Republicans should explicitly seek this right and not be in pen-umbra of fear.

This entire confirmation process has been turned into a Devils Advocate Court which is the antitheses of separation of Church and State the bedrock of USA.

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Postby UlanBatori » 03 Oct 2018 01:37

I would have no problem with them quizzing him on legalese. That's what the process is for. On Roe vs. Wade he said it is settled law per SC precedent, so the donkeys said:" Aha! But the SC COULD re-hear it and decide otherwise!" True but where is the basis for denying someone a job based on such a hypothetical situation? By the same token COTUS could simply pass a law making abortion totally halal: if the American voters so desire.
The blame for this circus rightly rests with the extreme communists in the donkey party. Now they are clamoring to make sure the FBI report stays secret. I don't know why McConnell agreed to that, maybe he's getting feedback that voters are disgusted and want to hear no more. But I think the FBI report provides fodder for criminal charges against those found to have committed crimes. Within the statute of limitations. Like the Dem Senators. And their lawyers. This has gone so far out of control that several have gone way overboard, and a good detailed punishment regimen needs to be imposed, nailing **ALL** the offenders.

The trouble with this focus on what someone did 35 years ago, is simple. If someone does something today, or last year, that should be used as a legitimate gauge of temperament, etc etc for a future job. But this guy has 35 years of stellar record. Why then does what he did 35 years ago matter at all? As a predictor of what? Esp. as EVEN IF the allegations were completely true, there would be nothing for a criminal case. If they started arresting everyone who did what is alleged there, at frat parties and high school parties, America would be one giant jail from Sea To Shining Sea.

Look dispassionately at what the woman alleged: she claims she escaped heroically from these two drunken rapists - but they sure didn't show any interest in following her: no banging on the bathroom door or whatever. They were drunken teenagers, whoever they were. OK, don't GO as a 15-year old girl to parties where underage drinking goes on, and that with no chaperone. It's as smart as going into a monkey cage at the zoo. Or into the hyena cage. Bad stuff happens. Had she "reported" the incident instantly, the worst that would have happened is that the offenders might have been banned from their social circle (I doubt that very much). IOW, there is no meat to the allegations whatsoever. The rules of 35 years ago are not the rules now, but even today, if a teenage girl went into an underage drinking party or a bar and got into trouble, there would be very little sympathy.

Everyone is afraid to say that obvious truth, for FEAR of being attacked by the hyenas.

So the blatant misuse and poor ethics of One Party makes him mad, and so the same unethical twerps say: "tsk-tsk, the guy gets MAD at us!!!" Not SUITABLE at all. Not DONE, I say, what-what!

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby chetak » 03 Oct 2018 02:03

JE Menon wrote:>>So far, India has come out smelling of roses and her every move with regard to the CPEC fiasco has paid off.

Hameen!!!

And so far, not a peep from our gloriously objective media about this at all.


didn't yecch churi and some other high ranking commie honchos make early noises about how India should learn to cooperate with the hans by accepting the CPEC proposals??

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Postby UlanBatori » 03 Oct 2018 02:53

Psst.. I missed this. What stunt did the WB pull on the cheen/CPEC? I saw where terroristan had reduced the amount that they plan to beg/borrow, but nothing beyond.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby A_Gupta » 03 Oct 2018 07:27

Remarkable essay from a Kavanaugh character witness:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... gh/571936/


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