Understanding the US - Again

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Postby Mort Walker » 03 Oct 2018 07:59

A_Gupta wrote:Remarkable essay from a Kavanaugh character witness:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... gh/571936/


Every article this guy has written in "The Atlantic" has been critical of Trump and BK. He is part of the Brookings Institution - the Deep State. The irony here is BK is part of the Republican establishment.

I would expect nothing less of such people.

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Postby Yagnasri » 03 Oct 2018 08:40

It is my understanding that in the hearings no specific case or situation will be asked as questions by the senators. It is a very bad thing to ask any judge.

I read the entire article in the Atlantic. How can a witness who can not give any particulars and faced no hard cross-examination is credible? How does one can keep quite after being accused with no evidence by the entire media and what not of being a rapist? If you can not keep quiet then you are unfit mentally. Great.

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Postby Sidhant » 03 Oct 2018 09:55

Rara trump brigade right now sounds like rara USA brigade, whenever you brought something bad in USA they use to scare you that what if the same argument is brought against India, same argument I hear from rara trump brigade, when something wrong is brought about trump, what if the same is brought against Modi. They don’t understand that India and USA are fundamentally different, same as Modi and trump. But what the hell right... Rara trump... Jai ho and Jai hu... usual disclaimers apply...

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Postby ricky_v » 03 Oct 2018 10:56

This tit-for-tat "truism" from both sides just goes to show how deeply riven the us actually is. It does not matter to the opposing camps now on which version is the fact, they both have their own truth. Now is the perfect time for the other nations to ensure that the dagger that is inserted, is so firmly lodged that it never leaves the nation whole again. For those people who believe that the "karma" of us should be catching up to it by now, you have the wonderful opportunity of making it happen, made possible by the citizens themselves; this imo is an opportunity that should not go to waste.

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Postby Mort Walker » 03 Oct 2018 11:07

^^^I agree. Further dismantling of the institutions used to bully others is needed now more than ever.

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Postby Singha » 03 Oct 2018 11:59

UlanBatori wrote:Psst.. I missed this. What stunt did the WB pull on the cheen/CPEC? I saw where terroristan had reduced the amount that they plan to beg/borrow, but nothing beyond.


long story short, they want $65b from china under CPEC but not sure if it will be self supporting or sunk investment. in case it heads sound, they were planning to use IMF/WB to get yet another bailout and carry on, while giving gaalis to both amrika and china :D

https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk/201 ... bout-cpec/
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1797907/6-assault-on-cpec/


American hostility towards the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) has now come into the open. Indirect criticism such as by Defence Secretary Mattis that CPEC would pass through “disputed territory” was replaced by a frontal assault last month by Secretary of State Pompeo stating, in the context of Pakistan possibly seeking an IMF bailout, that “there is no rationale for IMF tax dollars to bail out Chinese bond holders or China itself.”

Even more direct was the letter of August 3rd signed by 16 US senators to the Secretaries of State and Treasury which claims that Pakistan will seek an IMF bailout to pay off “debt obligations caused by CPEC”, which not only “illustrates the dangers of China’s debt trap diplomacy but also poses a “national security threat to the United States”. The letter goes on to elaborate this “threat” as China’s alleged control of Gwadar Port that could be “converted into a naval base” to enable the Chinese Navy to “maintain a permanent presence in the Indian Ocean”. It concludes by alleging that China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), of which CPEC is an integral part, is designed to create “an economic world order ultimately dominated by China”.

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Postby Singha » 03 Oct 2018 12:01

good thing is american deep state at top levels sees the OBOR/CPEC as a major strategic threat both in rimpac/ior and eurasian steppe and they are taking steps to counter. good thing about murica is once the deep state and think tanks and pentagon are on the same page, they take some action, rather than pass gas like our establishment.

in africa, they might work with people like india to cap, rollback and eliminate the chinese inroads one by one. african govts are now aware of the debt trap loop and they too are accountable to the electorate for economic health.

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Postby Lalmohan » 03 Oct 2018 14:55

the belt and road scam has been seen through by the recipients - even Pakistan, so its on shaky ground. the Chinese are allowing greed to get in the way of grand strategy. both US and EU are starting to counter slowly

india has been wary but not done much so far, except that recent political developments in the Maldives are being seen as an indian success against china. same will start to apply for Africa as well

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Postby Paul » 03 Oct 2018 15:15

Chinese are trying to do in years what the west did through colonization in decades or centuries. They do not have a greenfield play ground either. They should build a strong navy to enforce vasooli of their loans.

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Postby Lalmohan » 03 Oct 2018 15:47

well... the Chinese are going back to the pax mongolica eurasian trade model that they inherited from the great khan of the steppe peoples
and with it dominance of all lands from sunrise to sunset (still unofficial Chinese policy)

unfortunately the great war machine that enforced the peace to allow the trade model to function (back then) is currently possessed by the americans - and they have overall control over the great maritime trade model built by the british, dutch, Spanish and Portuguese

china's desire to reinvigorate the land route is to return to the status quo that the European naval powers had usurped

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Postby Singha » 03 Oct 2018 15:58

india, japan have teamed up to offer a alternative more dharmic narrative to the "aid to the 3rd world" line of work, via bilateral credits and institutes like the ADB which japan dominates.

the BRICs bank is stillborn child.

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Postby Singha » 03 Oct 2018 16:37

ibnlive
SOUTHAVEN, MISSISSIPPI:

Donald Trump said the US protects Saudi Arabia, during a rally
He didn't say when he made the remarks to the Saudi monarch
Trump administration has had a close relationship with Saudi Arabia

President Donald Trump made an undiplomatic remark about close ally Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, saying he warned Saudi Arabia's King Salman he would not last in power "for two weeks" without the backing of the U.S. military.

"We protect Saudi Arabia. Would you say they're rich. And I love the King, King Salman. But I said 'King - we're protecting you - you might not be there for two weeks without us - you have to pay for your military,'" Trump said to cheers at a rally in Southaven, Mississippi

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Postby UlanBatori » 03 Oct 2018 17:56

Thanks, Singhaji. Ouch! This part really stings:
Not surprisingly, eevil yindoo India, as America’s strategic partner and keen aspirant to becoming a counter-weight to China, has fully supported the American approach, alleging that CPEC will pass through Indian territory “occupied” by Pakistan.

And the US directly quoted that as "disputed teritorry". Translation for Beijing:
Get out of Northern Areas/POK and there is better chance of Gwadar surviving.

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Postby chetak » 03 Oct 2018 18:37

X posted from the CPEC thread.

Fitch warns of CPEC ‘curtailment’ under IMF programme


Fitch warns of CPEC ‘curtailment’ under IMF programme
Khaleeq Kiani
August 17, 2018

ISLAMABAD: The US pressure could lead to ‘stricter’ conditions by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to bailout Pakistan, including curtailment of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor and greater transparency in its financing, according to Fitch Rating.

The “US pressure could lead to stricter programme conditionality, including the curtailment of CPEC projects and greater transparency in CPEC financing”, said the New York-based rating agency. It said US backing was not strictly required to secure an IMF programme, but the IMF board emphasised consensus decision-making.

It said Pakistan’s incoming PTI-led coalition government will be under immediate pressure to arrest the deterioration in external finances and address fiscal challenges, as well as to attract the external funding necessary to meet its financing gap.

“The new government has more political capital to take positive though difficult policy actions, but it has a thin majority in parliament and faces a strong opposition, which could complicate policymaking,” Fitch said.

The rating agency expects Pakistan to seek potential financing from several sources including China and multilateral development banks, and possibly the IMF. Pakistan has been a repeated user of IMF financing, entering 12 programmes since 1980.

The IMF would probably require further fiscal and monetary tightening, greater exchange-rate flexibility, and wide-ranging structural reforms, which could also help attract other sources of financing.

Moreover, the IMF has unique monitoring mechanisms to implement corrective policies, without which there will continue to be significant uncertainty over the medium-term sustainability of Pakistan’s finances.

Negotiations over an IMF agreement could be complicated by loans linked to the CPEC, part of China’s Belt Road Initiative (BRI), particularly amid rising global geopolitical tensions. Recent statements from US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo suggest the US administration does not want IMF financing used to bail out Chinese lenders.

The $62bn CPEC project makes Pakistan one of the largest recipients of BRI financing. These loans have financed imports of capital goods, which have in turn inflated the current account deficit. The loans will eventually need to be repaid or refinanced.

The rating agency said PTI founder Imran Khan, outlined a broad economic agenda for a “New Pakistan” during his campaign, with a focus on confronting corruption, reducing inequality and expanding social services. However, advancement of this policy agenda is likely to be limited in the short term, with external and fiscal problems taking priority.

The current account deficit reached 5.6pc of GDP in the fiscal year ended June 2018, up from 4.7pc in FY17, while liquid foreign-exchange reserves fell by almost $4bn from end-December 2017 to end-July 2018 to just over $10bn.

The sharp rise in global risk aversion towards emerging markets, and a projected pickup in Pakistan’s external debt obligations in 2019 are adding to financing pressures. The fiscal deficit has also widened and is likely to well exceed previous estimate of 6pc of GDP in FY18, up from 5.8pc a year earlier.

Fitch revised the outlook on Pakistan’s ‘B’ rating to ‘negative’ from ‘stable’ in January to reflect these rising external and fiscal pressures.

The State Bank of Pakistan has already taken some steps, raising its policy rate by 175bps since January and introducing greater flexibility in the heavily managed rupee by allowing four separate depreciations since mid-December 2017, which resulted in a cumulative 17pc decline against the dollar.

These measures have so far not been enough to prevent the widening of the large external financing gap, which has been bridged with support from China, including an agreement to provide $2bn in additional bilateral lending in July. The Saudi-backed Islamic Development Bank has also reportedly extended a $4bn loan, the rating agency claimed.

The new government appeared to recognise the urgency of the situation, with the likely incoming finance minister, Asad Umar, stating that “all options are on the table” and that the government will formulate a policy and financing path within six weeks.

Published in Dawn, August 17th, 2018

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby ramana » 03 Oct 2018 20:10

Singha wrote:good thing is american deep state at top levels sees the OBOR/CPEC as a major strategic threat both in rimpac/ior and eurasian steppe and they are taking steps to counter. good thing about murica is once the deep state and think tanks and pentagon are on the same page, they take some action, rather than pass gas like our establishment.

in africa, they might work with people like india to cap, rollback and eliminate the chinese inroads one by one. african govts are now aware of the debt trap loop and they too are accountable to the electorate for economic health.


No thanks. India has built own goodwill despite the stigma of the being British Gungadins during colonial era.

No need to go back to the old role.

Repeat after me #No More Gungadin for anyone.

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Postby Mort Walker » 03 Oct 2018 21:03

Ramanagaru,

I think GD is referring to India offering a better development model than China. Strengthening schools, healthcare and governmental institutions. It won’t be fast development projects offering rapid infrastructure and employment. IMHO, India will offer developing countries a beacon of hope in the face of western and Chinese imperialism. A path to improve their lives slowly but surely over 1 or 2 generations. Most of Africa is only now coming off European colonialism.

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Postby UlanBatori » 03 Oct 2018 23:19

Several African nations got Chinese projects going, back in the 1970s. Tanzania for example. They seem to have stayed low-key, just exploiting the mining etc. In recent times they started offering the lure of Big $$$ which meant huge bribes as well. Now they are finding out that there is a hook with the bait, and a very tough line attached to the hook - and the line is being reeled in as cheen starts feeling the credit crunch themselves.

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Postby ramana » 04 Oct 2018 01:23

Mortgaru, India can do all that without being water-boy for US. That's all I am saying.

in africa, they might work with people like india to cap, rollback and eliminate the chinese inroads one by one.



India has worked hard to erase the memory of colonial hangers on to the British Raj.

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Postby ramana » 04 Oct 2018 01:28

UlanBatori wrote:Several African nations got Chinese projects going, back in the 1970s. Tanzania for example. They seem to have stayed low-key, just exploiting the mining etc. In recent times they started offering the lure of Big $$$ which meant huge bribes as well. Now they are finding out that there is a hook with the bait, and a very tough line attached to the hook - and the line is being reeled in as cheen starts feeling the credit crunch themselves.



Yes UB, Do you remember Tarzan cartoons with a overly slant eyed Chinese girl handing out Red Book along with development? Soon Indian newspapers stopped publishing those cartoons!

In think after 2008 meltdown China saw an opportunity to corner the raw materials for their economy and started their move into Africa.
The economy slowdown and the resultant difficulty in Balance of Payments for the debt to finance the infrastructure is at root of this current crisis.

For US watchers, the ~50% drop in Ford Motors stock price since about a year ago, is something to think about.
Not much talk about it in financial news pages.

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Postby UlanBatori » 04 Oct 2018 02:15

Another American executive confesses to not having EDS; nailed!
of using sexual and homophobic language in the workplace.
"I'll never forget the day he told me he got four erections while watching Jennifer Hudson rehearse," a female former CBS executive recalled to CNN.
Favale allegedly made the comment about Hudson as he watched the Oscar-winning performer rehearse ahead of a December 2015 appearance on "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert."
Two other CBS employees, one former and one current, told CNN they heard Favale say the vulgar remark. Others told CNN they learned about it from co-workers later that day. Of the five sources CNN spoke to about the incident, two said Favale allegedly made the remark in the presence of a CBS standards and practices representative.

Favale was placed on administrative leave on Wednesday, according to a spokesperson for CBS, following CNN's request for comment on this story. Favale denies allegations of retaliation and said his comments were taken out of context. {And in today's US environment, he might as well be fa*ting in the wind for all the sympathy he will get}


Reminds me of the very senior university/Boeing executive who was asked by two HR she-Godzillis why he wasn't attending the Sexual Harassment Course. He asked with 400% innocent expression on his face:
H*rass? Oh! I always thought that was two words?

But no, they couldn't afford to fire him for that. :mrgreen:

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Postby UlanBatori » 04 Oct 2018 02:25

The trouble with FDI projects in Africa is their reputation. Even today in some places, the instruction to employees is to do nothing, when the locals come by to rummage through the camps, taking whatever they want to take away.
It's their right. They have nothing, so they come by and get something for themselves.


If you want any better security you better have uniformed soldiers with the Led Stal on their helmets, and machine-guns, and a reputation for using them. Like Dr. No's Carribbean property in James Bond. Which is why PeeAllSee had the inside track. GOI until very recently (if at all) has not seen fit to enclose a mailed fist in the Kancheepuram gloves. Hence the probability of repeating the Uganda, Kenya and other ripoffs is very high. IOW you better make a 1000% profit while you can, to cover for the disasters. Now with the Boko Haram and their Mali buddies setting the standards, one has to be brave - or have one's own office located somewhere far away like Bilayat - to do big bijnej there.

Better not to discuss anything further on Africa here.

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Postby UlanBatori » 04 Oct 2018 02:30

Expanded comments from CNN on CBS:

In his current role, Favale develops programing around talent and advises on comedy bookings for the network. He started his career with CBS in 1996 and served as a senior programming executive for "Late Show with David Letterman" and "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" through 2017. He appeared on the program in comedic bits several times during Letterman's tenure.
From 1998 to 2001, Favale also oversaw the CBS syndicated "Howard Stern Radio Show." He gained recognition among followers of Stern in numerous appearances on his TV shows between 2004 and 2012. He is also credited as one of the founders of the Comedy Central television network.
According to several people who work or worked with Favale as a CBS executive, the off-color humor prevalent in some comedy circles has followed him professionally.
Nine current and former CBS employees, a mix of men and women, agreed to be interviewed by CNN as part of this story. All spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing non-disclosure agreements, or concern over professional retribution. These individuals described instances in "Late Show" meetings and rehearsals, between 2015 and 2018, where Favale used sexual innuendo, made homophobic comments and allegedly said derogatory remarks about the appearances of female guests.
When contacted by CNN for this story, Favale issued the following statement:
"Allegations that I have ever retaliated against anyone in any fashion are 100% false. I have spent my entire career working at comedy shows, where there has always been a wide latitude to make transgressive jokes while preparing the program. While we make a lot of jokes, these jokes attributed to me, whether said in rehearsals or production meetings, are being taken out of context and were not said in the way being presented here."
The individuals interviewed for this story said they felt emboldened to share their accounts about Favale's language after former CBS CEO Les Moonves resigned last month.
Related: Les Moonves is out at CBS after harassment allegations, corporate battle
Moonves was forced to step down following allegations of sexual harassment and assault in two reports by Ronan Farrow published by The New Yorker. While Moonves acknowledged consensual relations with three women cited in the stories, he disputes the allegations of assault and harassment.
Two sources detailed a problematic "Late Show" department meeting around 2015, where Favale was in attendance and loud construction could be heard outside the office.
"There was a big drill, and we looked outside and went to the window. [Favale] compared the drill to 'a big black dick' as it was drilling into the ground," a former CBS employee recalled. "I couldn't believe he said that."
This former employee said she complained to her superior about Favale's drill remark and other comments she deemed offensive and felt she faced retaliation. Favale began blocking her out of "important" and "necessary" meetings, she said. She voluntarily left her role at CBS and said Favale was a contributing factor.

The former CBS executive told CNN two employees complained to her after the drill remark and she shared their concerns with the company's human resources department. She said it appeared to her the network did not take any visible action against Favale. She, too, felt he began to retaliate against her. "He definitely knew that I had gone to HR. I told him, 'People are complaining about you and I let HR know,'" she said. "He stopped talking to me for long periods of time. Our roles required that we interact ... he shut me out of meetings. I went back to HR and complained, but I was told it wasn't happening and had been addressed with him." In April 2017, after at least one formal HR complaint had been made against Favale, he was promoted from the network's east coast late-night executive to his current role. "After you realize that that's the kind of thinking and logic that advances one's career at CBS, as a woman, you are left with one choice," a current CBS employee told CNN. "Are you a person who raises questions and calls that person out and has your employment jeopardized, or someone who just says nothing? Or do you become a good-time girl who laughs along with him and hopes that becoming a cool girl that gets it will help you advance? Those are not choices that someone should have to make in the workplace." "He has been known to say sexist things," another CBS employee said about Favale. "But I think that no one [in HR] took it seriously because it wasn't physical. It wasn't groping, so he got away with it."
When contacted by CNN for this report, CBS issued the following statement:
"The comments reported in this story are offensive and not consistent with the standards we expect from our executives or the culture we want at CBS. The network investigated a complaint for inappropriate language that was received in January 2016, and corrective action was taken. However, since concerned voices are speaking up nearly three years later, additional review is warranted. Mr. Favale has been placed on leave while we look into this situation further."
"The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" declined to issue a separate statement.
{What they had to say was all unprintable}

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Postby A_Gupta » 04 Oct 2018 03:29

Turns out what a man has to do to avoid being falsely accused of rape is exactly what a woman has to do to avoid being molested in the first place.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1 ... n=trending

First few examples:
:1. If you go to a party, either have only one drink, or only drink soda or water, so you can keep your wits about you. Never get tipsy around people you don't know and trust fully—it could come back to haunt you later. Even around people you fully trust, remember that most false rape allegations come from people you know. Be vigilant!

2. Use the buddy system, so you always have a witness! Only go to the bathroom with a friend, or ideally with a group of friends. Always have a friend walk you to your car, in case you run into a strange woman in the parking garage. Never go camping or hiking or biking or running or even just walking alone. NEVER go to a bar or concert or party or event alone; that is just asking for it.

3. If you're going out anywhere, make sure you text the specifics of your plans to at least one or two trusted friends, in case they need to verify your whereabouts to police later. You may also consider using a location sharing app so you have proof of where you were and when.

4. If you're going to exercise, make sure that you bring a friend, or even better, just exercise at home. Never go through a park alone. There might be a woman there who could accuse you

.5. When you're heading to class or work, never listen to music or podcasts on headphones. You need to listen carefully to your surroundings to make sure no woman is accusing you of anything.

6. When you're getting into your car at the end of the day, always check your backseat to make sure there aren't any women hiding back there. Never take shortcuts through alleys or parking lots that aren't extremely well lit, in case a woman is hiding there, waiting to accuse you.


Heck, BRF is getting so sexist that if I'm kicked off here for the whole list, I'll at worst join the illustrious Dr. Shiv. So here goes:

7. Only take out the trash, walk the dog, get your mail, go to the ATM, or get gas during daylight hours. Most false rape accusations happen at night, and you don't want to become a statistic. If you MUST go out alone at night, make sure to get your phone out of your pocket and start recording video. Grasp the phone between your fingers so it's not obvious, but keep it ready in case a strange woman approaches you

.8. It's expensive to take Uber or Lyft all the time, I know. But never use public transportation after dark. It's just too risky. Indecent exposure and groping accusations are very common on the subway, and you can easily avoid this by simply taking a cab instead. Protect yourself.

9. Never rent ground-floor apartments, and make sure you lock all your windows at night, even if it's hot out. You never know if a woman is going to break into your bedroom to accuse you while you are asleep.

10. Last but not least, even if you follow all these tips, you could still be falsely accused. After all, no matter what steps you take to prevent it, it's simply a fact of life that every year, a low single-digit percentage of rape allegations will turn out to be false, on par with other false allegations of felonies, and that's just a sad truth we all have to live with. You can take precautions, but that's all you can do.

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Postby UlanBatori » 04 Oct 2018 03:37

From the Ex-Boyfriend cited above: this is what UBCN was projecting about this Accuser person's real credentials:

boyfriend of Dr. Ford's, stating that he personally witnessed Dr. Ford coaching a friend on polygraph examinations. When asked under oath in the hearing whether she'd ever given any tips or advice to someone who was planning on taking a polygraph, Dr. Ford replied, "Never." This statement raises specific concerns about the reliability of her polygraph examination results."

Plus the part where the Fear Of Flying was all lying.
I have to grant that this is one heck of a fearless person, to go to all these extremes and hold up her act under the lights of the Capitol Hill Hearing. The term "jihadi" comes to mind. "Fedayeen". "soosai vest". I also think it is interesting that the FreeBiscuits are interviewing her, if at all, only after the middle of the 1 week. Which means they have a few questions based on their inquiries that they might want to ask her/ her attorneys?

The part about "not wanting to come forward" but "what 2 do letter was leaked onlee, so HAVE to come to DC" is all total stage drama. Manipulated all along.

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Postby Mort Walker » 04 Oct 2018 03:51

A_Gupta wrote:Turns out what a man has to do to avoid being falsely accused of rape is exactly what a woman has to do to avoid being molested in the first place.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/1 ... n=trending


This is pretty much true and has nothing to do with sexism. The first rule is not to drink. The 2nd is always watch your back. I give this advice to my children who are adults and late teenagers. For decades I have told them that for many positions of responsibility, there are background checks by security agencies and they make a timeline of all of your activities from the day you enter school. It must be spotless - especially if you’re brown. I’ve told my kids this since middle school. Nowadays colleges and employers check social media and ask if you’ve been disciplined in your school or college for non academic reasons.

If you want to make it in life. Never drink, cheat and work hard.

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Postby Ravi Karumanchiri » 04 Oct 2018 04:03

The origin myth of DJT has been busted.


The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.

By DAVID BARSTOW, SUSANNE CRAIG and RUSS BUETTNER
Oct. 2, 2018

President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found.

Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help.

But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day.

Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings.

These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances.

The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show.

The president declined repeated requests over several weeks to comment for this article. But a lawyer for Mr. Trump, Charles J. Harder, provided a written statement on Monday, one day after The Times sent a detailed description of its findings. “The New York Times’s allegations of fraud and tax evasion are 100 percent false, and highly defamatory,” Mr. Harder said. “There was no fraud or tax evasion by anyone. The facts upon which The Times bases its false allegations are extremely inaccurate.”

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 04 Oct 2018 04:17

^^^Well DT did help his parents avoid taxes, so I guess that’s worth something.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 04 Oct 2018 05:57

If you want to make it in life. Never drink, cheat and work hard.

Hmm! I think the work hard part is probably right. Don't know about the other two. You may SLEEP a lot better, but maybe hungrier. The whole scheme of frat parties, prom etc have become way beyond reasonable, and are taken to much worse extremes in the desi uber-noveau-riche circles, as pictured in Bollywood. Until recently I thought Bollywood movie parties were outrageously overdone, and over-copying the West, but now I realize that they are accurate and probably much more virtuous renderings of real life. What these sorts of revelations reveal is that they ***ARE** nonsense. One can grow up perfectly sane and mature without going to these things.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 04 Oct 2018 06:05

[quote="Ravi Karumanchiri"]The origin myth of DJT has been busted.[quote]

Raviji, the premise here is that real people ever BELIEVED the story that DT started out with 1 million paise, studied under a lamppost, etc etc. Yeah, sure. After I believe that all the bridges in New York are for sale.

No one that I know ever believed it. The guy was never (and isn't today) idolized as a Murty of Virtue. Just as someone who knows how a make a billion, and is hence probably better qualified to run the country than those who have only BLOWN billions. When the mobs yell and scream at his speeches, they are just congratulating themselves for being Hitler Jugend. DT is just their spokesperson.

The rest is in the hate-filled minds of these papparazzi, optimistic only when they hope to see Trump sent to jail.

I am waiting to see CNN etc get what is coming to them. Have you observed their reporting on India/Hindus? Wish we had tons more time: I meant to expand what Rajiv Malhotra compiled back in 2000/2001 about CNN'S ANTI-INDIA BIAS and develop an updated version, and call for a boycott of CNN/IBN and denial of visas their execs/reporters to visit India.

If you guys could bring urselves to actually indulge in something useful for India, I would suggest that undertaking very strongly. It may make a HUGE difference in the 2019 elections in India.

Seems like BRFees of today have all sorts of time to fa*t about how Trump is evil, but none to do something about those who are attacking India. Even to go tick a LIKE on an article.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 04 Oct 2018 06:33

FOIL-type hyena pack attack:
"650 Law Professors".


Interesting to see that the commie thought process is very similar. I bet these are mostly losers. Let me guess: Is that U. Chicago anti-Hindu Bibi on this list? Nussbaum, that's it!

Apparently there are 205 law schools in the US. Maybe average of 20 "professors" per school? That's 4010 profs, and 650 have signed this. Not a bad turnout! Nussbaum, sadly, is not there. But lots of desi Bibi - Behens

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Postby Yagnasri » 04 Oct 2018 08:16

FBI report submitted. It seems nothing new came out of it as expected. The report will be kept - Single copy for individual senators can visit and read. If it is true and nothing new came up BK will be confirmed.

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Postby Mort Walker » 04 Oct 2018 09:29

UlanBatori wrote:FOIL-type hyena pack attack:
"650 Law Professors".


Interesting to see that the commie thought process is very similar. I bet these are mostly losers. Let me guess: Is that U. Chicago anti-Hindu Bibi on this list? Nussbaum, that's it!

Apparently there are 205 law schools in the US. Maybe average of 20 "professors" per school? That's 4010 profs, and 650 have signed this. Not a bad turnout! Nussbaum, sadly, is not there. But lots of desi Bibi - Behens


The US Constitution does not prohibit a non-lawayer from being a supreme court judge. All the president has to do is nominate someone with good judgement like an aerospace engineer, physicist, or even someone evil like a mathematician :P .

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 04 Oct 2018 16:02

Yagnasri wrote:FBI report submitted. It seems nothing new came out of it as expected. The report will be kept - Single copy for individual senators can visit and read. If it is true and nothing new came up BK will be confirmed.

Wonder why they finished the job in so little time. Gives a very bad name to Phederal Agintzis. Must be a message there somewhere? CT#331: Kelly Ayesha Con- Rasta made up the report and mailed it
"PHROM EPH BEE EYE ONLEE. 4 ur ice onlee Taap Secret, bliss do not make more than 102 copies
1 phor the Fox
1 phor SeeEnnEnn
100 for the asses and elephants in the Dome
and none for little trump who .....

Apparently they did not interview whatzername. Then again they may have found the person hu drove whatzername home after the "attack". Who was a concerned-enough adult to have gone and verified who was present and drunk at the place. That would nail it, wouldn't it?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Gyan » 04 Oct 2018 16:19

UlanBatori wrote:FOIL-type hyena pack attack:
"650 Law Professors".


Interesting to see that the commie thought process is very similar. I bet these are mostly losers. Let me guess: Is that U. Chicago anti-Hindu Bibi on this list? Nussbaum, that's it!

Apparently there are 205 law schools in the US. Maybe average of 20 "professors" per school? That's 4010 profs, and 650 have signed this. Not a bad turnout! Nussbaum, sadly, is not there. But lots of desi Bibi - Behens


There is a liberal term for it it is called Contra majoritism
Which basically means that intellectuals have a right to oppose a democratic majority
In reality it means Fascism

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vijayk » 04 Oct 2018 16:55

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status ... 3066296321


Obama on his adolescent years in a rare video of a 2001 interview:

-"I was a thug," a "mischievous child"
-"I got into fights."
-"I drank and did--and consumed substances that weren't always legal."
-"I might have drank a six-pack in an hour before going back to class"


I thin using High school/College behavior is very smart move by Dems but this can be used against many people in USA. Wonder if they opened can of worms

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 05 Oct 2018 05:11

Amazing. I was off all din todin grazing on the high steppe, no Internet. I expected to see a whirlwind of posts, since the FreeBiscuits said :P When I didn't see the dhaga near the top I was :eek: because I assumed that it had been nuked again by Bredators.

But I c that there is silence. Seriously I too am STUNNED by the sheer slap that the FBI gave to the rabble-rousers: they turned in their report TWO DAYS EARLY. :rotfl:

On the FOIL's FAculty Petition philosophy, in all "Fair" ness may I note that this is only part of their thesis:

Our Faculty Comrades' Opinions are Far Superior Than Those Of Mere Proletariat


The other side is the Lynch Mob. Until just now it had not hit me that the Communist mob dragging people out of their homes and hacking them to death are === the racist lynch mob dragging a prisoner out of the city jailhouse, against whom there is no evidence, and beating him nearly to death before hanging him.

This is also Democrat History.

And.. the case of Leo Frank

And they are the same in 2018, in front of the Supreme Court of the USA.

They are blatantly refusing to accept the FBI report that was commissioned at their own demand.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 05 Oct 2018 06:19

Meanwhile in Amerika: Red Storm Rising

Langbert wrote in his blog that the Senate committee hearing last week at which Ford and Kavanaugh testified was a travesty and that the Democratic Party has become "a party of tutu-wearing pansies, totalitarian sissies who lack virility, a sense of decency, or the masculine judgment that has characterized the greatest civilizations."
Brooklyn College Provost Anne Lopes called the comments in the post abhorrent and counter to the values of the school community.


His one-way ticket to Siberia is expected in the mail by tomorrow.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Jaeger » 05 Oct 2018 09:27

Lol. Yes back in the day when a manly Spartan warrior could just oil his six pack, f*ck his 12 yr old ' trainee warrior' in the ass and spear one of his slaves to death for no reason. Then bitch with his buddy Menander about how the evil Athenians had introduced a 12ft Dory for their hoplites but soon Sparta would have an 18 footer or so he heard from his fourth cousin who is a dolmades maker.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby habal » 05 Oct 2018 09:45

Is US the new empire or does the empire control US

The real Empire has been in operation since 1649. The nominal Anglo Empire, actually controlled by a “power elite” of financial interests like the Rothschilds, operated through Britain until the 20th Century. They lost partial control of the US in 1783, but fought hard (financially) to re-establish control of the US. After 130 years, they finally regained a foothold with the Federal Reserve and consolidated that control during the next 50 years, finally gaining absolute control by 1963.

Meanwhile, the power of Britain as the bully boy under their control had been dissipated through their endless series of wars. The US, under tighter and tighter control through the first half of the 20th Century, became the co-bully boy with Britain during WW II, and replaced it entirely in 1956. However, the power elite still financially controls both the British Commonwealth and the US, and they sometimes indirectly influence US policy through British puppets like Theresa May (White Helmets, Skripals, the Steele dossier etc.)

In the 1830-40s, the power elite decided that a pro-British puppet state in historic Palestine would be useful to their goals in SW Asia, and they started a project to “restore” Jewish power in Palestine. This was a very long term project, as we know, taking more than a century.

It’s important for us to understand that this Empire, this power elite, is not a monolithic, absolute dictatorship with consistent policies. There are factions and power struggles within the power elite, but for the most part they are guided by shared interests, the most important being the preservation and expansion of their own collective power. As in any hierarchy, there are constantly shifts in relative power. Subordinates will always attempt to increase their own power, sometimes becoming a dominant force. Israel is such a case. However, if and when a vassal’s reckless actions begin to threaten the aggregate power of the rest of the elite, other factions will attempt to check its power. If they are able to, the vassal will be weakened or destroyed and the Empire and its power elite will endure. If unable, the parasitic vassal may cause the collapse of the Empire as a whole, perhaps even destroying the power elite itself.


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