Understanding the US - Again

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Singha » 14 Jan 2019 08:57

Cnn

CNN) — President Donald Trump said Sunday the US would "devastate Turkey economically" if the NATO-allied country attacks Kurds in the region.
"Starting the long overdue pullout from Syria while hitting the little remaining ISIS territorial caliphate hard, and from many directions. Will attack again from existing nearby base if it reforms," the President tweeted on Sunday.
He added, "Will devastate Turkey economically if they hit Kurds," but followed up in a second tweet, "Likewise, do not want the Kurds to provoke Turkey."

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Jan 2019 14:28

Bolton has walked back the previous announcements on ISIS and Syria, has reassured everyone that there is no firm timetable for US withdrawal and that Turkey had better stay off the Kurds. Meanwhile Pompeo is talking of confronting Iran in Syria... which is back to the MBS funded script

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Karan M » 14 Jan 2019 18:40

This thread needs to be renamed Understanding Trump.. we can't seem to predict anything the guy does and what he'll walk back on and what he won't change.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Kashi » 14 Jan 2019 19:15

Karan M wrote:This thread needs to be renamed Understanding Trump.. we can't seem to predict anything the guy does and what he'll walk back on and what he won't change.


Much like America then.

If I may suggest, leave it as it is.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Karan M » 14 Jan 2019 19:25

LOL!

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Jan 2019 20:20

Karan M wrote:This thread needs to be renamed Understanding Trump.. we can't seem to predict anything the guy does and what he'll walk back on and what he won't change.


on the contrary, he is getting more and more predictable

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Gus » 17 Jan 2019 10:43

from not met any russian ->we met, but nothing illegal by anybody -> some illegal, but not by president -> ???

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Lalmohan » 17 Jan 2019 14:52

^^^ manafort is going under the bus

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Singha » 17 Jan 2019 23:57

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/16/us/g ... index.html

black supervisors sue GM for tolerating threats and racist behaviour

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby sanjaykumar » 18 Jan 2019 03:22

:shock:

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Jan 2019 04:31

That's the thing, with all the Diversity Training and this and that, this is the actual reality.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby nachiket » 18 Jan 2019 04:56

^^And this is in Ohio not the badlands of the deep south.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Jan 2019 07:24

The jollies are getting personal. Nancy Pelosi asked DT to postpone his SOTU speech, and nastily suggested that he do the speech from the Oval Office. DT hit back by refusing her permission to fly on Congressional Phakt-Pihndin mishun using USAF plane. Suggested that she could take a commercial flight if she so decides.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Kashi » 18 Jan 2019 08:25

Lalmohan wrote:
Karan M wrote:This thread needs to be renamed Understanding Trump.. we can't seem to predict anything the guy does and what he'll walk back on and what he won't change.


on the contrary, he is getting more and more predictable


Once again much like American then.. With Trump we get to see that underbelly of American polity laid bare for the world to see. Previously it used to be hidden under a thin veneer of diplomatese; the mask would slip occasionally, but here it's been stripped off completely.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 18 Jan 2019 09:47

nachiket wrote:^^And this is in Ohio not the badlands of the deep south.


Racism, although less in the northern states, is worse than southern states. It often results in violent crime. In the south you are viewed as ni**er or fuzzy furnier who is not let into various institutions and segregated out.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 18 Jan 2019 09:50

Kashi wrote:Once again much like American then.. With Trump we get to see that underbelly of American polity laid bare for the world to see. Previously it used to be hidden under a thin veneer of diplomatese; the mask would slip occasionally, but here it's been stripped off completely.


Trump is exposing American democracy for the sham it is. Good people like Tulsi Gabbard are being viciously attacked by fellow donkeys. I've even seen desis who accuse her of being too close to Hindu Nationalists.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Yagnasri » 18 Jan 2019 09:54

I wonder why Ms Palosi want to play with DT who is master of nasty games. She and her fellow Dem Congress members are playing to the base too much. They most be s&&t scared of the base now. 2020 will have lot of Dem candidates pretending to be leftee crazies in the primaries for WH. Will they be in a position to defeat DT? I seriously doubt it.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 18 Jan 2019 09:55

UlanBatori wrote:The jollies are getting personal. Nancy Pelosi asked DT to postpone his SOTU speech, and nastily suggested that he do the speech from the Oval Office. DT hit back by refusing her permission to fly on Congressional Phakt-Pihndin mishun using USAF plane. Suggested that she could take a commercial flight if she so decides.


Telling DT to postpone or call off SOTU speech will backfire. DT may hold is SOTU speech at one of his all white MAGA rallies and invite donkeys to the event. Then have the crowd get to booing the donkeys in public on live TV. SOTU may turn out like a WWE event.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Yagnasri » 18 Jan 2019 09:56

Mort Walker wrote:I've even seen desis who accuse her of being too close to Hindu Nationalists.


Of course. We have lot of urban naxals gone to live in Khanland and they have voice in media there also.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 18 Jan 2019 10:02

Yagnasri wrote:I wonder why Ms Palosi want to play with DT who is master of nasty games. She and her fellow Dem Congress members are playing to the base too much. They most be s&&t scared of the base now. 2020 will have lot of Dem candidates pretending to be leftee crazies in the primaries for WH. Will they be in a position to defeat DT? I seriously doubt it.


Donkeys feel they have an advantage after mid-term elections since DT is so unpopular. What they forget is that presidential elections are based on the electoral college. The uneducated whites don't come out to vote normally, but if DT is on the ticket, they'll come out of the back woods and vote for him. OH, FL, and PA will go to DT in 2020. He will lose WI and MI, and lose even more popular votes across the US. Net result DT: 279 and Un-named Donkey: 259. DT will lose popular vote by at least 5 million, but it does not matter.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby abhik » 18 Jan 2019 10:12

disha wrote:^ You know why

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tulsi-gabbard-presidential-race-778343/

Democratic Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard Is Running for President in 2020

The left is already attacking her for her links to "right wing hindoo nationalist" - will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Singha » 18 Jan 2019 10:45

UlanBatori wrote:That's the thing, with all the Diversity Training and this and that, this is the actual reality.


yindu living in a few immigrant friendly bubbles do not see the dark underbelly of the beast...only a few isolated yindu who work outside these bubbles for a living get some exposure....and yindu are few in 'blue collar' assembly line type jobs.

the hispanics are building their own ecosystem in the areas they are starting to dominate like SW quadrant. koi kuch ukhad nahi sakta in SW. even the infamous sheriff arpaio of phoenix has been disgraced and defanged after a long reign of terror.

by 2040 the hispanics will be quite strong in murican politics i feel as they cross the overall 50% mark and start to really dominate some airspaces. and who can blame them for taking back what was once theirs? the kids of hardworking first gen migrants will be increasingly going into college and into white collar jobs - esp medicine and law - the pathway into politics.

per the ancient prophesies, they might bring balance to the force. the high tide of yindu family and job based migration has imo already crested and will slowly fall now...

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby hnair » 18 Jan 2019 11:02

Smt Gabbard has said some strong words against militant LGBT activists in the distant past (mid to late 2000s). Her opponents are bringing them up and trying to shake her a bit.

Whatever she said, was not against gays et al. Just against tactics of some activist types. But she is gradually moving into the glare. I find her background to be an Obama type outlier who can surprise any seasoned DC thuggee

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby disha » 18 Jan 2019 11:27

Yagnasri wrote:I wonder why Ms Palosi want to play with DT who is master of nasty games. She and her fellow Dem Congress members are playing to the base too much. They most be s&&t scared of the base now. 2020 will have lot of Dem candidates pretending to be leftee crazies in the primaries for WH. Will they be in a position to defeat DT? I seriously doubt it.


Nancy Pelosi and Dumbocrats think that they are smart. That they can outrage their way out. DT does not care two hoots about their outrage or any of dumbocrats outrage. Dumbocrats outraged violently when DT was legally elected and won fair and square by the rules, what worse can dumbocrats do now? They already played their cards.

So DT will continue poking in their eyes and dumbocrats will continue to cut their nose to spite DT.

"Nancy Pelosi's trip cut short" screams the news., well Nancy cuts out DT's state of union and DT just turns the knife back ever so coolly, like "Eh Nancy, cannot spare the US Air force for your sojourn to Upaghanistan due to government shutdown".

Who is red faced?

And now former ICE chief goes and says "Nancy is disgusting"

"Because she's scared to death that a president is going to speak straight to the American people more than 8 minutes," the former Homeland Security officer later continued. "And explain there is a crisis on the border."

"If Nancy Pelosi saw what I saw in the 34 years of my career, maybe she'd have a different attitude," Homan added before sharing stories about people dying while trying to reach the U.S. due to a lack of border security in some areas.


The liberandus in US do not understand that they cannot fence their home *and* have an open border!

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby disha » 18 Jan 2019 11:35

hnair wrote:Smt Gabbard has said some strong words against militant LGBT activists in the distant past (mid to late 2000s). Her opponents are bringing them up and trying to shake her a bit.

Whatever she said, was not against gays et al. Just against tactics of some activist types. But she is gradually moving into the glare. I find her background to be an Obama type outlier who can surprise any seasoned DC thuggee


It is good that the glare on Tulsi is getting drowned in the Pelosi-Trump antics.

Dem front runners will be Tulsi and Kamala. Do not be surprised if Alexandria Ocasia Cortez throws her hat into the ring as well. There are enough dumbocrats who are crazy behind her. And she is latino. And she is woman. All the right credentials for 2020 presidential run.

[Edit: Corrected post. Silly auto-correct from phone created a wrong meaning]
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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby ramana » 18 Jan 2019 11:40

Age is not there. I think one has to be 35 years of age.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vera_k » 18 Jan 2019 11:41

AOC is too young. Can't even be a senator yet.

Besides, what will all the freshmen have to show if the government stays shut until Nov 2020?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Ravi Karumanchiri » 18 Jan 2019 12:02

disha wrote:
hnair wrote: ...........


......... Alexandria Ocasia Cortez ....... is latino. And she is woman. And a stain. All the right credentials for 2020 presidential run.


^^^^^^^^^
What do you mean "a stain"?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

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hnair wrote:Whatever she said, was not against gays et al. Just against tactics of some activist types. But she is gradually moving into the glare. I find her background to be an Obama type outlier who can surprise any seasoned DC thuggee


She is now forced to say sorry. I.I.R.C. seeing her tweet on this. I don't think she has any chance. Deep state must be hating her to their bones. Entire Dem establishment will turn on her now. She will not last more than two primaries. She may continue but her plain speaking on many issues like "Islamic Terror" will not be acceptable to crazy base of Dem who are not seriously empowered.

If there is any female contesting against D.T. like Warren Kamala etc it will be fun like last one. AOC is too young. I also seriously doubt she has any gray cells to start with. None of the females of the establishment comes out as a street fighter needed to take hits and hit back DT. Maybe Kamala Haris may hit DT but can she take hits of DT? I doubt it.

Watch out for Beto Orio or whatever his name fellow contested against Cruz for the US senate. Has lot of "charisma" in the leftee circle. Could raise lot of funds also. He can contest.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Singha » 18 Jan 2019 15:39

fact stranger than fiction. byelorussian vixen deported from bangkok to moscow who claims she has evidence of russian oligarchs, politicians and american politicians

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/17/asia ... index.html

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Lalmohan » 18 Jan 2019 16:57

she might have an accidental dose of tea with her novichok en route to the hotel...

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Singha » 18 Jan 2019 17:06

she has been arrested, is being questioned as to her intent and who she is fronting for.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby ramana » 18 Jan 2019 20:10

Why are we digressing from the thread topic?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Lalmohan » 18 Jan 2019 21:09

she has dirt on the orangemeister as well

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Jan 2019 21:54

DT missed a trick there: should have let Pelosi go gallivanting on USAF planes. The visuals of her caviar burger and Champagne on the plane would have been pure gold to show to furloughed fed workers who are lining up at the food banks. Can you believe the insensitivity of these netas, to carry on THEIR luxury agenda while the government is shut down because THEY are not doing their jobs?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby disha » 18 Jan 2019 21:58

Ravi Karumanchiri wrote:What do you mean "a stain"?


Silly auto-correct on my new phone. I meant "a latino" and do not remember what else.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby disha » 18 Jan 2019 22:08

UlanBatori wrote:DT missed a trick there: should have let Pelosi go gallivanting on USAF planes. The visuals of her caviar burger and Champagne on the plane would have been pure gold to show to furloughed fed workers who are lining up at the food banks. Can you believe the insensitivity of these netas, to carry on THEIR luxury agenda while the government is shut down because THEY are not doing their jobs?


Nancy tweeted that her "commercial" flight plans were leaked out.

It could be that DT did get wind of her plans to fly "commercially" and decided to take wind out of her sails.

Dumbo'crats are worse than donkeys!!! Idiots do not realize that the more they try to paint Orange into a corner, the more they are painting themselves! Not many knew that Pelosi came back from a junket in Hawaii and was planning to go on a junket to Upaghanistan (via Brussels!) Now they all know :rotfl:

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby darshhan » 19 Jan 2019 02:39

Singha wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:That's the thing, with all the Diversity Training and this and that, this is the actual reality.


yindu living in a few immigrant friendly bubbles do not see the dark underbelly of the beast...only a few isolated yindu who work outside these bubbles for a living get some exposure....and yindu are few in 'blue collar' assembly line type jobs.

the hispanics are building their own ecosystem in the areas they are starting to dominate like SW quadrant. koi kuch ukhad nahi sakta in SW. even the infamous sheriff arpaio of phoenix has been disgraced and defanged after a long reign of terror.

by 2040 the hispanics will be quite strong in murican politics i feel as they cross the overall 50% mark and start to really dominate some airspaces. and who can blame them for taking back what was once theirs? the kids of hardworking first gen migrants will be increasingly going into college and into white collar jobs - esp medicine and law - the pathway into politics.

per the ancient prophesies, they might bring balance to the force. the high tide of yindu family and job based migration has imo already crested and will slowly fall now...


Somewhere I heard this quote wrt latino immigrants."They didn't cross the border. It is the border which crossed them".

By the way America is headed towards a second civil war or at the minimum a prolonged period of intense civil propaganda. Most probably this will happen within next decade. The gap between opposing factions is now too great to be bridged.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Singha » 19 Jan 2019 17:04

Brief background on the huge sw landgrab on mexico

https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-map-of-the-u- ... 264384/amp

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Singha » 20 Jan 2019 11:31

teens and kids in MAGA hats taunt and mock a native american elder who was chanting near lincoln memorial

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/19/us/t ... index.html

they had earlier got into a shouting match with some black murican bible thumpers.

quite a complex manthan :mrgreen: the rips and tattered holes on the great shawl of american 'melting pot' social fabric are exposed for all to see, and the tears are growing wider .... world should eternally thank DT for not being a hypocrite and going full frontal instead of shooting from behind cover like the coastal elites had been doing for decades . better to call spade as a spade.

murica speaks in many voices and is many nations now - same as turd world yindu nation is often laughed at for :D wuff wuff wuffy woof


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