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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vimal » 03 May 2019 20:21

Primus wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:Ran straight into a gun-holding terrorist, knowing what his chances were. That was the hallmark of the Kargil warriors.


Not to forget Tukaram Omble, who held on to Kasab unarmed, while bullets were being pumped into him. The true hero of 26/11. I read somewhere that he was an ex-armyman.


Wiki has this entry for him "Omble joined the police as a constable in 1991 after retiring from the Indian Army's Signal Corps as a naik. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tukaram_Omble

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 04 May 2019 06:51

More crap from National Public Radio (NPR). Flat out deceit.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby kancha » 04 May 2019 08:21

Primus wrote:
Not to forget Tukaram Omble, who held on to Kasab unarmed, while bullets were being pumped into him. The true hero of 26/11. I read somewhere that he was an ex-armyman.


Yes, from the Corps of Signals apparently

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Understanding the US - Again

Postby Peregrine » 05 May 2019 03:55

US lawmakers urge Trump administration to not end India's trade privileges – Reuters

WASHINGTON: Twenty-four US members of Congress sent a letter on Friday to US trade representative Robert Lighthizer, urging him not to end a vital trade concession for India, a day before the Trump administration is likely to announce a decision on it.

Ending the generalized system of preferences (GSP), which allows preferential duty-free imports of up to $5.6 billion from the South Asian nation, would impose “hundreds of millions of dollars annually in new taxes” on American companies, the lawmakers said in a bipartisan letter led by Democratic Representative Jim Himes from Connecticut.

“In the past, even temporary lapses in such benefits have caused companies to lay off workers, cut salaries and benefits, and delay or cancel job-creating investments in the United States,” the letter says. They urged the administration to continue negotiating a deal with India that would protect American jobs.

A decision to scrap the trade privilege comes as President Donald Trump has vowed to cut the US trade deficit and repeatedly called out India for high tarrifs.

India is the world’s largest beneficiary of GSP, which dates from the 1970s, and ending its participation would not only be the strongest punitive action against the country since Trump took office, but would also open a new front in the global trade war.

The elimination of GSP is likely to bring retaliatory tariffs from New Delhi, according to a senior source with direct knowledge of the matter.

Last June, India said it would step up import duties varying from 20 per cent to 120 per cent on a slew of US farm, steel and iron products, angered by Washington’s refusal to exempt it from new steel and aluminum tariffs. But it has since repeatedly delayed adopting the higher duties -- a move that could be implemented if GSP is withdrawn, the source added.

India is hoping the decision to end the trade privilege is delayed and the Trump administration is open to further negotiations, the source said.

In April, Republican Senator John Cornyn and Democratic Senator Mark Warner, co-chairs of the Senate India caucus, urged Lighthizer to delay adopting the plan.

India sent a trade package listing the concessions it was willing to make to the USTR in late February but hasn’t heard from them, the source said.

“They are usually very responsive so it is highly unusual for them to not respond to the trade package that was sent,” the source said.

The decision to drop GSP is also ill-timed as it comes in the middle of elections in India, hampering the country’s ability to negotiate further, the source added.

Despite close political ties between the two countries, trade between India and the United States, which stood at $126 billion in 2017, is widely seen to be performing at nearly a quarter of its potential.

Trade relations suffered in the past few months after India adopted new rules on e-commerce, reining in how US companies such as Amazon.com and Walmart Inc and Inc can do business in the country.

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Postby Singha » 10 May 2019 10:08

its not far when school staff will be allowed to pack weapons to deal with incidents

NYTImes

‘Fight if You Must’: Students Take Front-Line Role in School Shootings
In two recent and eerily similar shootings, two young men were hailed as heroes for barreling toward gunmen to prevent more bloodshed.
Their actions suggest that some members of America’s mass-shooting generation have learned to act as professionals would in the face of deadly tragedy.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Lalmohan » 10 May 2019 13:28

some counties allow teachers to carry firearms I believe now. some have armed guards. a few have managed to shoot themselves by accident recently

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby nandakumar » 10 May 2019 14:21

US has imposed 25% tariff on an additional $200 billion worth of goods from China. China is bound to respond. Global markets would tank. Crude prices would edge lower. Trump is counting on support from blue collar workers for reelection.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby chola » 10 May 2019 15:06

^^^ Nah. The markets have priced this in over the past several months. This has dragged on for such a long time that there will be no panic.

People know Trump will make Cheen capitulate. If not then the US will buy cheaper stuff from elsewhere -- ASEAN, Mexico and maybe even India if we play this right.

Cheeni market for Amreeki goods won't collapse either even with the trade war. They will continue buying Boeing and Tesla and Intel to support their urban modernization. Hollywood and Starbucks are breaking records in the PRC despite the trade war.

The markets will stabilize with Cheen being an importer instead of an exporter which it already is sans the US/Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese firms making stuff there for exports to the US/West. The jobs they lose from the phoren global supply leaving will be replaced by the chini MIC. We will see more warships and military transports versus toys and air conditioners for Walmart.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Lalmohan » 10 May 2019 15:20

markets haven't entirely priced it in, still heading south...
but it may not be terrible (let us see...)

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby nandakumar » 10 May 2019 16:38

Is Trump's calculation that blue collar jobs will shift to the US, a realistic one? Why would smart phones, colour TVs etc consumed in the US from Chinese exports relocate to US?

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Postby Lalmohan » 10 May 2019 16:44

the fight that ought to be fought is to stop Chinese protectionism and raiding of IP to create unfair advantage
the fight that is being fought just seems to be about counter protectionism (US only and uncoordinated with partners)
not clear how this is going to pan out... or who is actually going to benefit
its unlikely to be rust belt manual workers

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby nandakumar » 10 May 2019 20:56

Lalmohan wrote:the fight that ought to be fought is to stop Chinese protectionism and raiding of IP to create unfair advantage
the fight that is being fought just seems to be about counter protectionism (US only and uncoordinated with partners)
not clear how this is going to pan out... or who is actually going to benefit
its unlikely to be rust belt manual workers

I guess you are right. I was sceptical about Trump's promise, at the time of campaign, to shift jobs back to US. It doesn't seem like he is going to show any tangible results by November 19.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby chanakyaa » 11 May 2019 07:54

nandakumar wrote:Is Trump's calculation that blue collar jobs will shift to the US, a realistic one? Why would smart phones, colour TVs etc consumed in the US from Chinese exports relocate to US?

Transferring bulk of manufacturing back to US is NOT part of any calculation. It doesn’t make any sense. May be a small percentage on the margin, but that is about it. Theoretically speaking, when a product is manufactured/assembled in China (or any other low cost country) ships to wyestern country, proportionately higher % of wealth (human effort and real asset) transfer out of China in exchange for digital monetary earning (thollar, euro etc.). Why would anyone move manufacturing out of China as long as unemployment at home is low? All that posturing using tariff is going to raise prices in the US. Some are claiming that the trade war may be an sneaky signal to wyestern businesses to move (by tariff math) manufacturing out of China to other Asian countries. If this were to happen, it could lead to large unemployment and cash ($$) crunch, which could a threat to the communist party. This scenario could help achieve geopolitical objective of containing China. Over the past 30+ years Chinese have benefitted tremendously from its status as a manufacturing hub of the world. Loosing that status partially or in its entirety (very unlikely) would be devastating. Uncle is playing a very long game (with many mini games including coming re-election).

For example,
In 2017
Foxconn to Build $10 Billion Factory in U.S.

In 2019
Foxconn may drop manufacturing as part of drastic rethinking of Racine County campus

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Postby Singha » 11 May 2019 09:02

china is moving the lower side of manufacturing into cambodia, vietnam nearby but still retaining control as investor and owner.

still to be seen how far this can scale up as population is not huge. maybe cheen will export its lower cost workers too into viet/cambodia later if numbers fall short.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Lalmohan » 11 May 2019 12:30

China is pivoting from low cost to value add, labour costs for the basic stuff is now too high; they have bullied their way into grabbing IP, which is where they want to go, and in some fields they are doing well

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby chetak » 11 May 2019 12:53

Mort Walker wrote:More crap from National Public Radio (NPR). Flat out deceit.

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the RSS has turned a benign, nondescript all encompassing religion and given it the vital and distinguishing characteristic of all three abrahamic desert cults, the missing characteristic of a congregating religion.

All three desert cults know the inherent power and hypnotic hold that this very attribute of the congregation has on its followers. This is what they fear most and so they mock, demonize and deride the RSS at every given opportunity. Our paid/sold out media and incestuous left biased presstitutes play a very critical role in this diabolizing of the RSS.

The west/gelf, the BIF and the commies already know how the RSS can almost instantaneously mobilize itself to handle disasters and bring selfless succor to the suffering masses after a catastrophe like a cyclone or an earthquake. They all saw this during the Gujarat earthquake, the tsunami and the Uttarakhand floods and they saw it recently in kerala too. It is this ability and dedication of the RSS cadres that terrifies them.

In fact, many armies across the world simply cannot mobilize and deploy as fast or even as effectively as what the RSS can do with meager resources and its dedicated cadres.

all this is done without asking for anything in return, no conversions and no discrimination based on caste color or creed and they have never proselytized.

and when they are done, they simply melt into the shadows without even being credited for the hugely humanitarian work that they have done time and again.

The RSS congregate, they coalesce, foster and develop kinship and camaraderie and they have a democratically elected supreme leader who runs an organization with a hierarchical structure and this terrifies the colonialists, both rolers and ropers, and the commies with their urban naxal over ground workers.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vimal » 11 May 2019 13:11

Mort Walker wrote:More crap from National Public Radio (NPR). Flat out deceit.

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I've never understood how every foreign correspondent who comes to India, within a few weeks starts spewing articles like these and soon is celebrated India "expert". Tell me a single Indian who has achieved the same in such short time. It's almost as if Indians want to give this recognition to any gora however stupid or inept they might be. Reminds of that BBC correspondent or William D who have spent a life time of nonsense spewing farticles like these and become India experts.

BTW the bimbo who copy pasted that article is LAUREN FRAYER who landed in India a few weeks ago and her side kick is one FURKAN LATIF KHAN.

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Postby Manish_Sharma » 11 May 2019 19:53

1998 में PM अटल बिहारी वाजपेयी की सरकार ने आज ही के दिन राजस्थान के पोखरण में परमाणु परीक्षण कर दुनिया को चौंका दिया था। in 1998 on 11th May Prime Minister shocked whole world by conducting Nuclear tests पूर्व राष्ट्रपति डॉ.अब्दुल कलाम की अगुआई में इस मिशन को इस तरह से अंजाम दिया गया कि अमेरिका समेत पूरी दुनिया को इसकी भनक तक नहीं लगी थी। Spearheaded by APJ Abdul Kalam tests were done in such covert manner that USA was totally flummoxed
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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Manish_Sharma » 11 May 2019 20:46

Edwina influenced nehru on issue of referring Kashmir to uno

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 8140533782

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Postby Varoon Shekhar » 11 May 2019 21:31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh4sjihhppY

Apologies if posted before, a strong response to TIME magazine's issue on PM Modi. Can be moved to another topic heading.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Karan M » 11 May 2019 21:52

Tulsi Gabbard, Narendra Modi, and the Question of Hinduphobia and “Hindu Nationalism” (or, “Hinduphobia” and Hindu Nationalism)

Vamsee Juluri
writer, professor of media studies at USF


https://medium.com/@vamseejuluri/tulsi- ... 720ab69742

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Postby darshan » 11 May 2019 23:09

Tulsi’s campaign messages:
Even though we have reached the 65,000 threshold, if more than 20 candidates qualify, the Democratic National Committee will move the goalposts and some candidates will be eliminated.
By mid-June when the final decision is made, we need to make sure we’re in the strongest position possible — and we need your help to get there. We’re at 69,913 donors right now and we expect that we will need at least 100,000 by June 15th — but that number may increase depending upon how the other candidates are doing.
Can you forward the email below to your friends and family to share this milestone, and call on them to join our movement?


The mainstream press has a policy of either ignoring or smearing Tulsi — can you guess why?
It’s because Tulsi is directly taking on the chickenhawks in both parties, the corporate media and the military industrial complex who drive us into war for their own power and profit. As a major in the Army National Guard and the first female combat veteran to run for president, Tulsi’s call for peace is uniquely powerful and credible — and that’s why they’re afraid of her.
We have a way to counter the smears and cold shoulders from the mainstream media — but we need your help.

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Postby Singha » 13 May 2019 10:06

NYT

Your 5G Phone Won’t Hurt You. But Russia Wants You to Think Otherwise.
Whichever nation dominates 5G networks, the next generation of cell phone connectivity, will gain a competitive edge, analysts believe.
The Russian network RT America, known for sowing disinformation, is spreading concerns about a hidden flaw and warning of a coming “5G apocalypse.”


Promised Coding Jobs in Appalachia Were a Fraud, Lawsuit Argues
A nonprofit called Mined Minds promised to teach West Virginians how to write computer code and then get them good-paying jobs.
But former students described Mined Minds as an erratic operation, and almost none of those who signed up are working in programming now.

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Postby chola » 13 May 2019 13:53

nandakumar wrote:Is Trump's calculation that blue collar jobs will shift to the US, a realistic one? Why would smart phones, colour TVs etc consumed in the US from Chinese exports relocate to US?


It is unlikely to come back to the US and even the Trump administration knows it. But getting the supply chain out of Cheen is a goal whether or not the jobs come to America.

Cheen had been pricing itself out of the supply chain even before the trade war.

Those jobs were going to leave Cheen sooner or later. The later the less disruptive. Trump wants to make it as disruptive as possible.


Singha wrote:china is moving the lower side of manufacturing into cambodia, vietnam nearby but still retaining control as investor and owner.

still to be seen how far this can scale up as population is not huge. maybe cheen will export its lower cost workers too into viet/cambodia later if numbers fall short.


Yes, this is why the chinis has not capitulated yet. It actually surprised us in a report circulating last week that there are those in Cheen, including many in the private sector, who want this rupture with the US to recapture market positions INSIDE Cheen.

Right now, the only well known chini brand in the Yoo Ess is Huawei and it can't even sell there by Amreeki decree. What cheen sells in the US are items manufactured in Cheen by ohoren brands so the profits go to them not Chinese contractors. The big benefit to Cheen are the jobs and also the initial exposure to the global market place that allowed chini products to sell under their own brands to the turd world if not the West.

But the jobs calculus is no longer forward trending as salaries rise in Cheen. Rising salaries means consumption which Western firms had exploited with far more profitably in Cheen than Chinese companies had in trading commodity manufactures to the US. In fact, prices for American cars, diaper and drugs are often marked up to 300% more in Cheen than in the US.

Currently, the Chicommies tax their private sector far more than the SOEs (of course) and gets far less of the loans. They would gain far more from recapturing segments in Cheen owned by the West than actually selling to the West. GM is at the top of the chini car market, Disney on top of the chini box office, Yum, McDonalds and Starbucks on too of Cheen's fast good sector, etc. But no Chinese anywhere near that in any sector of the US market despite the $400B "surplus." Chinese products in Walmart and Target are under American brand names.

The thinking goes that the trade war will force the CCP to give tax breaks and open up loans to the Chinese private sector. As a result, there are actually many including their most progressive forces in Cheen actively hoping for a complete rupture.
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Postby Lalmohan » 13 May 2019 14:06

one other snippet on huawei doing the rounds - the UK's approval of Huawei as a 5G supplier in a break with rest of the five-i's is supposedly due to MI5/6/GCHQ having a good fix on the deficiencies of the Huawei kit architectural and software flaws, so that they know what to watch for, but more importantly know which vulnerabilities they can exploit to spy on any other users of the kit - without huawei even knowing

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Postby vimal » 14 May 2019 09:33

As we've been saying here in BRF and elsewhere for a long time but slowly becoming apparent to others also.

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1088299306275299328

Increasingly clear to me that the criticisms of Tulsi Gabbard's religious background are laced with innuendos and insinuations that would not be tolerated with respect to other groups. Americans' ignorance of Hinduism is being leveraged as a political attack against her.

8:55 PM - 23 Jan 2019

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Postby Singha » 14 May 2019 16:43

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/14/asia ... index.html

cheen media calls for a peoples war on us arrogance and greed.

i think cheen could abruptly cancel all boeing orders and cozy up to airbus and europe in general.
food and planes are the two major merchandise exports direct from usa to china.
the stuff that apple uses to build in china either come from china or nearby hives like japan, taiwan, korea not made in usa. there is unlikely to be a single piece of a iphone or CE device made in usa but shipped to china for final assembly.

one thing which happened was Mehico under nafta and the maquilladora border factories was supposed to the mohalla china, friendly, local, manageable...but that did not happen and i guess manufacturing moved from mehico to china again. instead we the los zetas, juarez, mexicali, sinaloa , tijuana cartels and their militias

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Postby chola » 14 May 2019 17:04

^^^ Lol. Peepul's War. A throwback to Mao. Trump's war will make them more like the Soviet Union than what they were before the tariffs war -- which was a combination of East Asian trade technocracy (Japan, SoKo and Taiwan) with a heavier central element.

The first depended overly on their MIC which led to unprofitable military hardware and economic collapse, the latter on their export and white goods industry which led to rapid economic growth. Guess why Trump is insistent on this tariffs war?

Trump is creating the reverse of the Nixon moment which opened up Cheen to their current growth. He will make Cheen go back in time and turn them back into a belching commie dinosaur yet. lol

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Postby syam » 14 May 2019 17:29

Peepul war in name only. We won't be seeing another soviet union. US taking bitter pill. It's now or never for them. Too much reliance on chinis, now chinis making better smart phones than them. That's what I heard on internet anyway.

:D eagerly waiting for the new era of east vs west. hopefully chinis won't repeat the mistakes japs made. earlier soviets and amerikis didn't push it too far. both are made from same white cloth. let's see how far chinis go. I bet amerikis won't hesitate to do the dirty stuff. They are already rounding up chinis everywhere(hauwei daughter).

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Postby Singha » 14 May 2019 18:15

we need them at each others throats for the next 30 years lol.
...while we quietly continue to grow and be an island of stability and tranquility panchsheel etc.

before 10 trillion gdp, all is maya.

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Postby kit » 14 May 2019 18:28

chola wrote:^^^ Nah. The markets have priced this in over the past several months. This has dragged on for such a long time that there will be no panic.

People know Trump will make Cheen capitulate. If not then the US will buy cheaper stuff from elsewhere -- ASEAN, Mexico and maybe even India if we play this right.

Cheeni market for Amreeki goods won't collapse either even with the trade war. They will continue buying Boeing and Tesla and Intel to support their urban modernization. Hollywood and Starbucks are breaking records in the PRC despite the trade war.

The markets will stabilize with Cheen being an importer instead of an exporter which it already is sans the US/Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese firms making stuff there for exports to the US/West. The jobs they lose from the phoren global supply leaving will be replaced by the chini MIC. We will see more warships and military transports versus toys and air conditioners for Walmart.


Massive armament programmes are a harbinger of war , history has too many examples Germany, Japan...

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Postby syam » 14 May 2019 20:18

mm. . I have small pooch. We hear about jewish lobby, qatar lobby, saudi lobby, chini lobby etc.... these lobbies pursue their own interest. what does core us state pursue? they must have their own interests, right? what is core us state?

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Postby Ravi Karumanchiri » 14 May 2019 20:43

syam wrote:mm. . I have small pooch. .........<snip>.......... what is core us state?


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Postby syam » 15 May 2019 03:23

Ravi k garu, I was expecting some lengthy post, not dollor symbol. They have like 607 billionaires and 17 million+ millionaires. And they have 350m total population. See the picture.

I am sure more than half of those 600 guys think they rule the world. Just saying they want profits won't do. :)

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Postby Cain Marko » 15 May 2019 13:51

chola wrote:^^^ Lol. Peepul's War. A throwback to Mao. Trump's war will make them more like the Soviet Union than what they were before the tariffs war -- which was a combination of East Asian trade technocracy (Japan, SoKo and Taiwan) with a heavier central element.

The first depended overly on their MIC which led to unprofitable military hardware and economic collapse, the latter on their export and white goods industry which led to rapid economic growth. Guess why Trump is insistent on this tariffs war?

Trump is creating the reverse of the Nixon moment which opened up Cheen to their current growth. He will make Cheen go back in time and turn them back into a belching commie dinosaur yet. lol

Yeah he'll try. But it won't be easy, China has diversified it's export markets considerably and has taken serious steps in developing it's rather large consumer market. The US will find it painful and s large number of the big boys will hurt. Midwest Farmers are already whining...

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Postby chola » 15 May 2019 14:06

syam wrote: :D eagerly waiting for the new era of east vs west. hopefully chinis won't repeat the mistakes japs made. earlier soviets and amerikis didn't push it too far. both are made from same white cloth. let's see how far chinis go. I bet amerikis won't hesitate to do the dirty stuff. They are already rounding up chinis everywhere(hauwei daughter).


The Trump admin had already came out and said so. Cheen is the first great rival who wasn't "caucasian."

Which sort of got me thinking. Technically, we are "caucasians" too. But I imagine this theory will be tested when we begin to pass them economically in three decades or so.

Singha wrote:we need them at each others throats for the next 30 years lol.
...while we quietly continue to grow and be an island of stability and tranquility panchsheel etc.


Cheen is pushing West with OBOR because Unkil is blocking it in the East. It is a huge win for the US if Cheen is forced to trade wealthy East Asia (its natural sphere of influence) for the piss-poor and dangerous muzzie hinterland. Still while it is good for Unkil to make Cheen exchange Japan and Korea for Pakiland and Bangladesh, is it good for us?

That rivalry will impact us one way or another, Saar.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Singha » 15 May 2019 14:59

African swine fever (ASF) is decimating China's pork industry, by far the biggest in the world. Dutch bank Rabobank, which lends to the global agricultural sector, estimates the country's pig population could shrink by a third in 2019 -- up to 200 million animals -- through a combination of the disease and culling.
To put it in context, that's almost as many pigs as in the US and Europe combined.

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