Understanding the US - Again

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby JE Menon » 01 Aug 2019 17:46

If Tulsi survives the Democrat primaries, she will beat Trump.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby V_Raman » 01 Aug 2019 18:14

Biden/Tulsi joint ticket has great promise

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Postby darshan » 01 Aug 2019 18:53

Google News has down ranked Tulsi headlines pretty much across the US. Similar for YouTube feeds.

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Postby KJo » 01 Aug 2019 19:59

I have a different opinion. I think DT will win 2020, there is nothing going against him at this point. Economy good, jobs good, no terrorism threat. He is doing all the right things to win.
Dems talk about impeaching him all the time... For what? For being "a racist" or a "dictator"? :rotfl: It's the same arguments that Congis bring against big bad Modi.

Tulsi barely is at 1%, so there is no way she will make up the difference. I think Biden will be the Dem candidate and DT will demolish him.

The world is getting more conservative/right wing/nationalist. People have had enough of these world citizen types leaders which means nothing other than import more and more muslims into the country to change demographics and do intense virtue signaling about "look look we let in 1000000000 Muslims, we are not racist, we so nice onleee". Modi came back to power, Johnson came to power in the UK, Trump is in power and most likely will come back. Merkel will go soon. The next one is Trudeau of Canada and he will be out soon as per my information (I work in Canada a lot - people are fed up of him and his constant nautanki).

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Postby Cain Marko » 01 Aug 2019 22:31

KJo wrote:I have a different opinion. I think DT will win 2020, there is nothing going against him at this point. Economy good, jobs good, no terrorism threat. He is doing all the right things to win.
Dems talk about impeaching him all the time... For what? For being "a racist" or a "dictator"? :rotfl: It's the same arguments that Congis bring against big bad Modi.

Tulsi barely is at 1%, so there is no way she will make up the difference. I think Biden will be the Dem candidate and DT will demolish him.

The world is getting more conservative/right wing/nationalist. People have had enough of these world citizen types leaders which means nothing other than import more and more muslims into the country to change demographics and do intense virtue signaling about "look look we let in 1000000000 Muslims, we are not racist, we so nice onleee". Modi came back to power, Johnson came to power in the UK, Trump is in power and most likely will come back. Merkel will go soon. The next one is Trudeau of Canada and he will be out soon as per my information (I work in Canada a lot - people are fed up of him and his constant nautanki).


Is have to agree with much of what you said. There is no way an establishment candidate like Biden will take down Trump. But a non establishment candidate could. Bernie was and still is very popular. Someone like Tulsi would as well. But my guess is that the Dems will ambush these guys. The debate qualifications are rigged anyway. And wait till the super delegates come into play.

As a result, Trump will win 2020. The only interesting thing that might happen is if someone runs independent.

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Postby Mort Walker » 02 Aug 2019 00:03

The thing is Biden is as much a racist misogynist as Trump. The correct words and dog whistles will be given to keep whites at home and it will make for a close contest between he and Trump. I do agree the Democratic party is like the INC. They have their super delegates (17% of party voters) who will crown their leftist-urban naxal nominee.

In some ways Trump is like Kejriwal. Good ideas, but complete bonkers in the brain.

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Postby KJo » 02 Aug 2019 00:26

Well Saar, for regime change, there needs to be a prime driver. I see none. All economic indicators are good, along with the stock market. People are resistant to change, so unless Trump self-destructs or does something stupid like take US to war against Eye-ran, he will be back.
Dems along with Muslims have been crying about how evil and bad he is, but his advantage is that everyone knows what he is and isn't. No one expects him to be a Mahatma. We all know that he doesn't think before he speaks. He is no polished OmBaba in his utterances.

Biden and crew are pretending to love immigrants, random Muslims etc etc when it's evident that all they want is their votes. Not much different from INC.

My prediction: Trump vs Biden, and Trump next POTUS with a bigger win that last time. Like cunning Yindoo Modi :twisted:

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Postby Mort Walker » 02 Aug 2019 00:28

^^^
Most likely you are correct, but I think it will be close. To compare Modi to Trump is a gross injustice to Modiji.

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Postby KJo » 02 Aug 2019 00:42

Mort Walker wrote:^^^
Most likely you are correct, but I think it will be close. To compare Modi to Trump is a gross injustice to Modiji.


Comparing them doesn't mean that Trump = Modi. It can also mean that certain aspects are similar. One can say that Amit Shah is cunning like a fox and that doesn't mean that all his characteristics are like a fox. Trump and Modi are alike in some ways and different in others.

Modi came back after 5 years rule which is very rare for India in recent decades. It is relatively less rare in the US, but I think he will emulate Modi in that aspect. Both are nationalists and don't pander to peacefools. Hence the hate to these two from this group. I have some Afghani friends of mine who absolutely hate Modi. Other than islamic reasons, I don't see any logical reason.

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Postby ramana » 02 Aug 2019 02:28

KJo go easy on such comparisons. Folks here have invested emotionally and otherwise in NaMo.
We all are quite well read to understand/take analogies.

one one post by your analogies, you have managed to throw mud at two parts of MAD.
All left is throw some at D also?
And as for Islamist Afghan friends we don't care.

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Postby V_Raman » 02 Aug 2019 02:36

Please dont compare Modiji to Trump. Modiji is in power due to historic mandate based on integration. Trump is in power due to majoritarian division. Trump is an ass, racist, gaslighter - any terms fit him. But he is in power - that is his only achievement. Modiji is in a whole different league - a true once in a millenium leader.

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Postby Cain Marko » 02 Aug 2019 02:50

The biggest difference between Indian leaders, specifically someone like modi and other world leaders, irrespective of superficial comparisons, is the utter lack of character and moral fiber in the latter.

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Postby Mort Walker » 02 Aug 2019 08:45

Cain Marko wrote:The biggest difference between Indian leaders, specifically someone like modi and other world leaders, irrespective of superficial comparisons, is the utter lack of character and moral fiber in the latter.


Only LBS, Narsimha Rao, Vajpayee and Modi have had character and moral fiber as leaders of India in 18/72 years. Others have been just as bad. Modi is probably the most visionary of leaders the world has seen in a long time. He stands head and shoulders above all others in the last half-century.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Rudradev » 02 Aug 2019 09:11

No other leader of India has been as pathetic as Donald Trump. Not even the ribald scam-monger Laloo Prasad Yadav, whom I consider the closest equivalent.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Haresh » 02 Aug 2019 15:23

From 1998 but still informative.

ARMS CONTRACTORS SPEND TO PROMOTE AN EXPANDED NATO

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/30/worl ... -nato.html

American arms manufacturers, who stand to gain billions of dollars in sales of weapons, communication systems and other military equipment if the Senate approves NATO expansion, have made enormous investments in lobbyists and campaign contributions to promote their cause in Washington.

The end of the cold war has shrunk the arms industry and forced it to diversify.

But expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization -- first to Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic, then possibly to more than a dozen other countries -- would offer arms makers a new and hugely lucrative market.

America's six biggest military contractors have spent $51 million on lobbying in the last two years, according to an analysis prepared for The New York Times by the Campaign Study Group, a research company in Springfield, Va.

If lobbying costs were included from all companies that perform military-related activities, like computer and technology firms, they would dwarf the lobbying effort of any other industry.

Not all of the lobbying has been for NATO expansion. The contractors have billions of dollars worth of other business before Congress. But NATO expansion has been a central concern because it offers so many opportunities.

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The military industry also remains the most generous contributor to Congressional candidates, the study group said, giving nearly equally to Democrats and Republicans.

The four dozen companies whose main business is arms have showered candidates with $32.3 million since the collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe at the beginning of the decade. By comparison, the tobacco lobby spent $26.9 million in that same period, 1991 to 1997.

The top six American military companies increased their contributions to Federal campaign committees as well, to $2.4 million in 1997 from $1.5 million in 1991.

In the last six years, those six companies -- Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Textron Inc., Raytheon, Boeing and McDonnell Douglas -- have given the committees more than $15 million.

''Like any other American manufacturer, they are looking for markets abroad,'' said Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a New York Democrat who opposes the proposed NATO expansion. ''Most every other customer they can think of, we have forbidden them to sell anything to.''

Under NATO rules, new members are required to upgrade their militaries and make them compatible with those of the Western military alliance, which oversees the most sophisticated -- and expensive -- weapons and communication systems in the world. The companies that win the contracts to provide that ''inter-operability'' to the aging Soviet-made systems in Eastern Europe will benefit enormously from NATO's eastward expansion.

Thus the sums spent on lobbying and for campaign contributions are relatively small compared with the potential benefits in the new markets provided by a larger NATO, particularly from the sale of big-ticket items like fighter aircraft.

A single F-16, made by Lockheed Martin, costs about $20 million; a single F-18, made by Boeing, costs $40 million to $60 million. Poland alone wants to buy 100 to 150 fighter planes and is weighing offers from Lockheed and Boeing as well as from companies in Britain, France and Russia.

''It's a big deal,'' said a Polish official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

''They are doing their best,'' he said of the companies, which appear to be lobbying more heavily abroad than in Washington. ''They are very active. They are already introducing some business to Polish industries, not necessarily connected to this plane business.''

No one contends that NATO is being expanded for the benefit of military contractors. President Clinton committed himself more than four years ago to broadening the alliance as a way to unite and stabilize Europe, and his Administration has worked tirelessly to promote the expansion as the cornerstone of his legacy in foreign policy.

Nor are the military contractors alone in their support for expansion, although few other constituencies in the United States care as much. There has been virtually no organized opposition to NATO expansion, and the public has not been engaged.

As one Senate aide put it, ''The only people who care about this are the think-tank folks and the academics -- not much of a voting constituency.''

The arms makers quickly latched onto the idea and over time helped the Administration sell it. ''It's not a case of whispering in Clinton's ear and saying, 'Expand NATO because we want to sell arms,' '' said William D. Hartung, author of a recent report for the World Policy Institute, a private arms control group that opposes expansion. ''But they've become one of Clinton's most energetic allies in promoting it.''

The chief vehicle of support for NATO expansion is a group called the U.S. Committee to Expand NATO, which is backed by the arms industry. The committee president is Bruce L. Jackson, who is also director of strategic planning for Lockheed. Corporate sponsors are also supporting ethnic groups that have championed NATO membership for their native countries.

This has led to some skepticism in the Senate. Senator Tom Harkin, Democrat of Iowa, said the lobbyists had been so effective that the expansion amounted to ''a Marshall Plan for defense contractors who are chomping at the bit to sell weapons and make profits.'' A top Republican aide in the Senate joked that the arms makers were so eager for NATO expansion that ''we'll probably be giving landlocked Hungary a new navy.''

That zeal by the contractors, the extensive spadework by the Administration and the support of Senator Jesse Helms, the North Carolina Republican who is chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, have led to the virtual certainty that the Senate will approve the treaty to admit the Poles, Hungarians and Czechs.

Debate started two weeks ago but was postponed until later this spring when the subject could receive a more focused hearing. Several senators said they expected that the treaty would easily win the two-thirds vote needed, although some said they favored slowing future expansion of the alliance to other countries, a move that could bring the industry back to Capitol Hill in force.

Several senators said they had been lobbied by the industry, but not excessively so.

The industry is also concentrating its efforts abroad, setting up partnerships in Eastern Europe to give the companies a foothold.

The arms makers have other important business before Congress for which they are lobbying heavily, including the fate of the B-2 bomber and the deployment of a full-scale ''Star Wars'' antimissile defense system by 2002, worth more than $4 billion. But NATO expansion has loomed as a rare new source of revenue.

''We've taken the long-term approach to NATO expansion, establishing alliances,'' said Charles Manor, a spokesman for Lockheed based in Bethesda, Md. ''When the day arrives and those countries are in a position to buy combat aircraft, we certainly intend on being a competitor.''

He said the Eastern Europeans could not afford the aircraft now and had other priorities. For the immediate future, Lockheed will focus on supplying information systems, telecommunications and infrastructure, he said.

Doug Kennett, a spokesman for Boeing, said his company had not cemented any military deals yet. But, he said, ''we are working with a number of the companies in Eastern Europe in partnering arrangements.'' These include a $30 million investment in Aero Vodochody, a Czech manufacturer of light airplanes.

Without NATO membership, Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic have little incentive to spend their scarce money on arms. Recognizing that problem, the arms industry succeeded in lobbying Congress to establish a loan program in 1996 under which the Pentagon will guarantee loans for defense exports.

The top individual giver to the Democratic Party last year was Bernard L. Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space and Communications, which is partly owned by Lockheed.

He gave $366,000 to Democratic Party committees in 1997, a non-election year. That included $50,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, made shortly after he appeared at a briefing for several senators that was sponsored by the U.S. Committee to Expand NATO.

Correction: March 31, 1998
An article yesterday about efforts by American military contractors to lobby the Senate in favor of NATO expansion referred imprecisely to the relationship between the arms industry and the U.S. Committee to Expand NATO. While the committee has the political support of the industry, its by-laws forbid it to accept corporate contributions.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Rishi_Tri » 03 Aug 2019 01:28

Rudradev wrote:No other leader of India has been as pathetic as Donald Trump. Not even the ribald scam-monger Laloo Prasad Yadav, whom I consider the closest equivalent.


Coming from 'erstwhile' Lalooland, though he ate fodder worth Rs 1000 crores, the humble cattle - Gaiya and Bhaisi - was at the center of his politics and if people recall, one of his salient calls was to set up Charvaha Vidyalya (Shepherd School); So should be poster boy for all Gow Rakshaks.. :rotfl: .. Anyway, said this in jest, he set Bihar back by at least 30 years and viciously targeted specific sections of society.

Don't know if this was covered. US Commerce Department has recently revised US GDP numbers going all the way to 2014. 2018 GDP numbers have been revised down from 3.1% to 2.5%.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/economic-g ... 1564144200

Two points:

1- Armed with economics phds by 1000s, there is still a need to revise GDP and not a word from all and sundry that it should not be done. If Modi sarkaar does so, all hell breaks loose.
2 - Economy may not be the trump card up his sleeve. Down revision of GDP numbers, slip up in stock markets, slip up in oil with impact on fossil fuel income, skirmish with Chin impacting exports, and sluggish private investment may change the economy in good measure by Q1 of 2020.

Triumph is the front runner now but right Donkey party candidate may give a strong fight!

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby darshan » 04 Aug 2019 02:34

Police: Multiple fatalities reported in El Paso Cielo Vista Mall shooting
https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/ ... 910012001/

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* lot of wisdom was flowing about not broadcasting live for various reasons
* suspect pictures and brief video at entrance seem to have cleared off by tech giants within moments

https://mobile.twitter.com/kanyefijiwat ... 2293362689

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Sources identify suspect in El Paso shooting as Patrick Crusius
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el- ... index.html
The suspect in a shooting at an El Paso shopping center Saturday is Patrick Crusius, 21, of Allen, Texas, three sources have told CNN.
Two federal law enforcement sources and one state government source confirmed the suspect's identity. The federal sources said investigators are reviewing an online writing posted days before the shooting that may speak to a motive.
The online posting was believed to be written by Crusius, the sources said, but that has not been confirmed.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Vayutuvan » 04 Aug 2019 05:48

JE Menon wrote:If Tulsi survives the Democrat primaries, she will beat Trump.

Tulsi Gabbard/Andrew Yang is my dream ticket.

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Postby darshan » 04 Aug 2019 22:10

Another weekend, two more mass shootings in America
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/three ... index.html

(CNN)A beloved Northern California festival, a neighborhood Walmart in Mississippi, another Walmart near the US-Mexico border and a popular entertainment district. All four were the scenes of shootings in the last week -- events that together left at least 34 people dead and more than 50 wounded.

A week bookended by violence has left residents shaken, frustrated and grieving.


https://trends24.in/united-states/
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Postby ryogi » 05 Aug 2019 10:32

"Sh*%Hole country" Much?

This is what Karmic consequences for a nation founded on Genocide and Slavery look like.

Om Shanti.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby nachiket » 06 Aug 2019 05:34

Vayutuvan wrote:
JE Menon wrote:If Tulsi survives the Democrat primaries, she will beat Trump.

Tulsi Gabbard/Andrew Yang is my dream ticket.

Tulsi Gabbard's competence and suitability for the job may be beyond reproach. But there are too many people in the US (which is still a deeply Christian country) who will not vote for her because of her religion alone. Obama had to convince people that he and his family were Christians despite his middle-name and ancestry. Plus he had the advantage of near total support and a lot of enthusiasm from the black community (something which HC did not enjoy and suffered for it).

TG has none of these advantages. To make matters worse, there are enough opponents of her on the loony left as well due to her questioning of the default narrative in Syria (Assad bad, "moderate" headchoppers rebels good) and meeting with Assad. The left's affinity for Islamists like Ilhan Omar also comes in the way for them to support a Hindu.

I don't think she has a snowball's chance in hell.

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Postby williams » 06 Aug 2019 05:49

No Democrat has a credible solution to answer the rural crowd who voted in numbers for Trump and will again vote in numbers for Trump. None of the intellectual arguments matter for this crowd. All they think is Trump could have done better if not for all obstacles that were put against him by Washington politicians. If Bernie is not going to be the Dem candidate then Trump's second term is a done deal. So from an Indian perspective, we need to be prepared to put up with Trump Bahadur for the next 5 years. Trump Bahadur does not understand the nuances of international relations. So all we got to think about is a transactional relationship. Keep the transactions moving will be my thought. We need Khan tech and khan needs some trade/business overtures, let us give what we can and get what we can that is it.

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nachiket wrote:
Vayutuvan wrote:Tulsi Gabbard/Andrew Yang is my dream ticket.

Tulsi Gabbard's competence and suitability for the job may be beyond reproach. But there are too many people in the US (which is still a deeply Christian country) who will not vote for her because of her religion alone. Obama had to convince people that he and his family were Christians despite his middle-name and ancestry. Plus he had the advantage of near total support and a lot of enthusiasm from the black community (something which HC did not enjoy and suffered for it).

TG has none of these advantages. To make matters worse, there are enough opponents of her on the loony left as well due to her questioning of the default narrative in Syria (Assad bad, "moderate" headchoppers rebels good) and meeting with Assad. The left's affinity for Islamists like Ilhan Omar also comes in the way for them to support a Hindu.

I don't think she has a snowball's chance in hell.


Can she be VP candidate? or Secretary of State?

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Mort Walker wrote:
Cain Marko wrote:The biggest difference between Indian leaders, specifically someone like modi and other world leaders, irrespective of superficial comparisons, is the utter lack of character and moral fiber in the latter.


Only LBS, Narsimha Rao, Vajpayee and Modi have had character and moral fiber as leaders of India in 18/72 years. Others have been just as bad. Modi is probably the most visionary of leaders the world has seen in a long time. He stands head and shoulders above all others in the last half-century.



No Modi bhakht .. but he is one of a kind., a man who walks his talk. With the right team, he will achieve the 5T goal in half a decade

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Postby UlanBatori » 07 Aug 2019 00:19

FOX News
Florida
Published 7 hours ago
Florida man allegedly urinates into ice machine at nightclub

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Postby Arun.prabhu » 07 Aug 2019 05:25

Tulsi Gabbard is also being censored like trump. If she had a popular following, that may not matter, but she doesn’t. She’ll end up like Ron Paul. Might do her some good to leave the Democratic Party and take up the libertarian flag.

KJo wrote:I have a different opinion. I think DT will win 2020, there is nothing going against him at this point. Economy good, jobs good, no terrorism threat. He is doing all the right things to win.
Dems talk about impeaching him all the time... For what? For being "a racist" or a "dictator"? :rotfl: It's the same arguments that Congis bring against big bad Modi.

Tulsi barely is at 1%, so there is no way she will make up the difference. I think Biden will be the Dem candidate and DT will demolish him.

The world is getting more conservative/right wing/nationalist. People have had enough of these world citizen types leaders which means nothing other than import more and more muslims into the country to change demographics and do intense virtue signaling about "look look we let in 1000000000 Muslims, we are not racist, we so nice onleee". Modi came back to power, Johnson came to power in the UK, Trump is in power and most likely will come back. Merkel will go soon. The next one is Trudeau of Canada and he will be out soon as per my information (I work in Canada a lot - people are fed up of him and his constant nautanki).

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Postby Arun.prabhu » 07 Aug 2019 05:26

No chance in hell.

vijayk wrote:
nachiket wrote:Tulsi Gabbard's competence and suitability for the job may be beyond reproach. But there are too many people in the US (which is still a deeply Christian country) who will not vote for her because of her religion alone. Obama had to convince people that he and his family were Christians despite his middle-name and ancestry. Plus he had the advantage of near total support and a lot of enthusiasm from the black community (something which HC did not enjoy and suffered for it).

TG has none of these advantages. To make matters worse, there are enough opponents of her on the loony left as well due to her questioning of the default narrative in Syria (Assad bad, "moderate" headchoppers rebels good) and meeting with Assad. The left's affinity for Islamists like Ilhan Omar also comes in the way for them to support a Hindu.

I don't think she has a snowball's chance in hell.


Can she be VP candidate? or Secretary of State?

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Postby Vayutuvan » 07 Aug 2019 05:28

vijayk wrote:
nachiket wrote: ... I don't think she has a snowball's chance in hell.

Can she be VP candidate? or Secretary of State?


I don't think so for all the reasons moderator nachiket mentioned. But one can dream. Kamala Harris has a better chance as VP or SOS. She has the backing of the most populous state, CA, and the elite SI valley left who have deep pockets. Yang will take a lot of heat for his BMI (Basic Minimum Income) proposal, i.e. $1000 pm to each and every American adult. That is a $2.4 trillion cash coming into the economy every year on the year.

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Postby Arun.prabhu » 07 Aug 2019 05:32

trump administration knew about modi’s Kashmir resolution in late feb apparently. For all that America’s foreign relations appear to be transactional in nature under trump, he has delivered what India needed on this important front. No leaks to Pakistan, no back channels, silence on the official front, and continued silence on our purchases of Russian weapon systems. He could have gone after us like he did with turkey over s400 purchase - F35s will participate in USAF-IAF exercises within a decade, exposing that platform to the same risks as in turkey and they haven’t said a word.


williams wrote:No Democrat has a credible solution to answer the rural crowd who voted in numbers for Trump and will again vote in numbers for Trump. None of the intellectual arguments matter for this crowd. All they think is Trump could have done better if not for all obstacles that were put against him by Washington politicians. If Bernie is not going to be the Dem candidate then Trump's second term is a done deal. So from an Indian perspective, we need to be prepared to put up with Trump Bahadur for the next 5 years. Trump Bahadur does not understand the nuances of international relations. So all we got to think about is a transactional relationship. Keep the transactions moving will be my thought. We need Khan tech and khan needs some trade/business overtures, let us give what we can and get what we can that is it.

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Postby Arun.prabhu » 07 Aug 2019 07:02

And it looks like Kamala Harris, google’s proxy, is sunk. Tulsi gabbard’s takedown of Harris on her record of prosecuting black first time marijuana use arrests that her support among the blacks have sunk to 1%. To put that in perspective, Republicans get around 7%... good riddance. Sleeping your way into politics makes you a whore, and not president material.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=3637

Kamala Harris and Willie brown:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 695143002/

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Postby vera_k » 16 Aug 2019 04:18

President Trump eyes purchase of Greenland from Denmark

Mr. Trump has, with varying degrees of seriousness, repeatedly expressed interest in buying the ice-covered autonomous Danish territory between the North Atlantic and Arctic oceans


his advisers have supported the concept

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Postby Rsatchi » 16 Aug 2019 17:36

North Korea snubs peace talks with South Korea over war drills-BBC
Lo Ji Kalo Bhaat
Tenga to Trump saab :eek: :lol:

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Kashi » 16 Aug 2019 18:01

A far bigger thenga to Moon who was going on and on about a "peace economy" with the North.

Kim also turned down rice assistance from South.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby kit » 16 Aug 2019 18:37

Kashi wrote:A far bigger thenga to Moon who was going on and on about a "peace economy" with the North.

Kim also turned down rice assistance from South.


Apparently getting enough pork and rice from Xi.,

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Vayutuvan » 17 Aug 2019 12:56

vera_k wrote:President Trump eyes purchase of Greenland from Denmark

Mr. Trump has, with varying degrees of seriousness, repeatedly expressed interest in buying the ice-covered autonomous Danish territory between the North Atlantic and Arctic oceans

not a new proposal. it was made back in late 1800s. US has a large, in fact the largest, airforce base in Greenland. China is making inroads into Greenland as we speak.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vera_k » 17 Aug 2019 18:17

^ Last offer was 100 million in 1946. Also news to me that the US Virgin Islands were similarly purchased from Denmark.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 24 Aug 2019 06:37



Trump is the ultimate troll in the ultimate position. He creates news headlines to distract from his administration’s policies and to suck the political oxygen out of the opposition. It's all about him and no one else.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vimal » 24 Aug 2019 06:58

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... e-do-that/

Trump ‘hereby’ orders U.S. business out of China. Can he do that?

Some see Trump’s command as more than ‘cheap talk,’ saying he has real tools to encourage compliance.

President Trump’s extraordinary edict demanding U.S. companies move out of China — delivered in a series of angry tweets Friday — left industries of every stripe scrambling to understand how seriously to take the order, and how the White House might enforce it.

Businesses from retail to electronics to home goods, many already under pressure from a months-long U.S.-China trade war, were contacting their industry associations for guidance and awaiting more substantive announcements from the White House.

“I’m trying to keep my cool and not get worried and upset, but it’s becoming hard,” said Magi Raible, founder of LiteGear Bags, a luggage maker based in Vallejo, Calif.

She has a meeting next week with an industry colleague to discuss moving more of her manufacturing from China to India or South Africa, she said.



“The tweet isn’t entirely cheap talk,” said Derek Scissors, a China expert at the American Enterprise Institute, a think tank partly funded by industry.

Trump fired off the tweets after China imposed a new round of retaliatory tariffs on $75 billion worth of American imports Friday.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby chetak » 24 Aug 2019 17:33

A series of tweets from trump'



Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Our Country has lost, stupidly, Trillions of Dollars with China over many years. They have stolen our Intellectual Property at a rate of Hundreds of Billions of Dollars a year, & they want to continue. I won’t let that happen! We don’t need China and, frankly, would be far....
7:59 AM - 23 Aug 2019

....better off without them. The vast amounts of money made and stolen by China from the United States, year after year, for decades, will and must STOP. Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing..

....your companies HOME and making your products in the USA. I will be responding to China’s Tariffs this afternoon. This is a GREAT opportunity for the United States. Also, I am ordering all carriers, including Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS and the Post Office, to SEARCH FOR & REFUSE,....

....all deliveries of Fentanyl from China (or anywhere else!). Fentanyl kills 100,000 Americans a year. President Xi said this would stop - it didn’t. Our Economy, because of our gains in the last 2 1/2 years, is MUCH larger than that of China. We will keep it that way!



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