Understanding the US - Again

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 22 Nov 2019 22:32

So if donkestan expels TG, does she join the haathistan or be independent?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 22 Nov 2019 22:45

A_Gupta wrote:No, just that even with instant Presidential parsons available, Bolton considered the Trump-Giuliani-etc., Ukraine play to be too risky. The rest are too drunk with the power of their king-President to realize that.

PS:
"It's gonna take a dead Russian hooker at the bottom of the Hudson River before Republicans wake up."
- Nicole Wallace 11/21/19


The rest of the US doesn’t care about the hearings and the Donkeystanis must play to their base. After all said and done, this will help re-elect Trump come November.

The real fun will come with a trial in the senate which will subpoena both Bidens and maybe Ombaba too for the mess in Ukraine.
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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 22 Nov 2019 22:47

UlanBatori wrote:So if donkestan expels TG, does she join the haathistan or be independent?


She is not leaving the party and is not dropping out. If she ran as an independent, then she would damage Trump as the Donkeystanis will not vote for her otherwise.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 22 Nov 2019 23:17

^^So "we" can potentially put the donkeys in the pakistan where they want to be, hain? :mrgreen: 8)

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Vayutuvan » 22 Nov 2019 23:53

Mort Walker wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:PS:
"It's gonna take a dead Russian hooker at the bottom of the Hudson River before Republicans wake up."
- Nicole Wallace 11/21/19


The real fun will come with a trial in the senate which will subpoena both Bidens and maybe Ombaba too for the mess in Ukraine.


much before that. dec 9th IG's bombshell report is going to drop in abuse of FISA process.

FBI 'low level' folks might procure a dead Russian hooker from Steele and who is paid by DNC and drop the body in the Hudson.

:mrgreen:

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 23 Nov 2019 00:14

UlanBatori wrote:^^So "we" can potentially put the donkeys in the pakistan where they want to be, hain? :mrgreen: 8)


Donkeys in Pakistan. :)

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 23 Nov 2019 00:17

^^ Serious pooch. Alistair McLean is dead (i think). Frederick Forsyth is senile (read his latest books, they are disasters). Tom Clancy is either dead or pakistanned himself, and the author of The Firm has slid downhill. WW3 is not on horizon. Al Qaeda is old news. ISIS is too gross even for me. Is ANYONE writing good clean (missiles vaporize ppl; no gore and screams, thanx) thrillers that can beat CNN and RT.com for sheer entertainment on DupliCity goings-on, pls?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 23 Nov 2019 00:18

^^Donkeys in THE pakistan. We need terminological exactitude onlee pls.
Meanwhile, The War Of The Pure.
Equal-Opportunity Baksheesh Culture

a review of her voting record in the Senate from President Barack Obama's time in office shows that in 2014, she herself voted in favor of appointing "wealthy donors" to multiple ambassadorships.
She voted for at least three out of more than 30 of Obama's ambassador nominees, who were also his bundlers, according to an ABC News analysis of voting and campaign finance records. Bundlers are top campaign fundraisers who reach the max of their own donations, and raise large amounts for campaigns by mining their networks of friends and acquaintances to donate as well.
Others were confirmed by voice vote, which would mean that Warren did not raise an objection on the Senate floor -- despite her vocal objections to such nominations now.


{yaaaaaawwwwn}. Along with the VP choice, party nominees should also elect their Impeachment Defenders to qualify for POTUS race.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby dnivas » 23 Nov 2019 06:53

UlanBatori wrote:^^ Serious pooch. Alistair McLean is dead (i think). Frederick Forsyth is senile (read his latest books, they are disasters). Tom Clancy is either dead or pakistanned himself, and the author of The Firm has slid downhill. WW3 is not on horizon. Al Qaeda is old news. ISIS is too gross even for me. Is ANYONE writing good clean (missiles vaporize ppl; no gore and screams, thanx) thrillers that can beat CNN and RT.com for sheer entertainment on DupliCity goings-on, pls?



Space based war fiction. Hot Gate by John Ringo. Book 2 is ok. Three is total garbage. I am waiting for book 4.

Lot's of mijjiles, space weapons and spying and double crossing.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 23:56

@AndrewYang
Was asked to appear on @msnbc this weekend - and told them that I’d be happy to after they apologize on-air, discuss and include our campaign consistent with our polling, and allow surrogates from our campaign as they do other candidates’. They think we need them. We don’t.


@AndrewYang Replying to
@AndrewYang
They’ve omitted me from their graphics 12+ times, called me John Yang on air, and given me a fraction of the speaking time over 2 debates despite my polling higher than other candidates on stage. At some point you have to call it.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vijayk » 23 Nov 2019 23:59

Latest 2020 General Election Polls
Thursday, November 21
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 49, Trump 51 Trump +2
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders Emerson Sanders 50, Trump 49 Sanders +1
General Election: Trump vs. Warren Emerson Warren 50, Trump 50 Tie
General Election: Trump vs. Buttigieg Emerson Buttigieg 48, Trump 52 Trump +4

Wednesday, November 20
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden Marquette Biden 44, Trump 47 Trump +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Warren Marquette Trump 48, Warren 43 Trump +5
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Sanders Marquette Sanders 45, Trump 48 Trump +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Buttigieg Marquette Trump 47, Buttigieg 39 Trump +8
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Klobuchar Marquette Trump 50, Klobuchar 36 Trump +14


New Hampshire: Trump vs. Biden St. Anselm Biden 51, Trump 43 Biden +8
New Hampshire: Trump vs. Warren St. Anselm Trump 46, Warren 47 Warren +1
New Hampshire: Trump vs. Sanders St. Anselm Sanders 49, Trump 46 Sanders +3
New Hampshire: Trump vs. Buttigieg St. Anselm Buttigieg 49, Trump 42 Buttigieg +7

Friday, November 22
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 46, Disapprove 52 Disapprove +6

Thursday, November 21
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
President Trump Job Approval Emerson Approve 48, Disapprove 47 Approve +1


How can his approval rating and winnability increase during impeachment hearings? What is wrong with this picture

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 24 Nov 2019 01:58

Impeachment proceedings may be really swinging the vote of the uncommitted ( I mean to asylums). If I were a voter, would I be looking at the present Blue COTUS Circus and say:
Oh, wow! They are REALLY doing what I elected them to do! Living up to their campaign promises to solve the problems of America!

Hard to imagine anyone looking at DTji with SYMPATHY, but the Democrats are truly achieving the impossible in that respect.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 24 Nov 2019 04:31

And DTji is not backing down even against the 5-gon.
Guess how this will play.... note that the SEAL was **ACQUITTED*** of murder and attempted murder by a court-martial, but they are still going after him, which does raise a huge question of fair play. Maybe send the Navy Secretary and a raft of Admiraljis out to Eyeraq?

Gallagher's lawyer, Timothy Parlatore, has said that the Navy's decision to order the review of Gallagher's status was part of an effort to push back against Trump's earlier decision to restore the SEAL's rank. Parlatore has slammed the Navy's leadership, particularly Green who had ordered the review board.
Green ordering the review "crossed a very dangerous line, having our uniformed flag officers being directly defiant of our commander in chief," Parlatore told CNN Thursday.


What has happened is that the Admiralty's intention maybe to look very gracious by sort-of pardoning the officer and looking very fair, has been totally upended by the C-in-C. Now they are left looking like idiots in the history books. Might as well resign.

For those who do not know: Both the USN and the USAF have a **HUGE** problem: PEACE. Not enough senior officers getting shaheed in combat, and not enough planes and ships being procured, to have more Xth Air Fauj, Carrier Groups and Fleets to command. So things are getting pretty tight in the 5-gon building, not enough offices with windows and all sitting around with knives sharpened to reduce the competition.

IOW, ***ANY***** gossip/perceived flaw/SNAFU is enough to end the career of senior jarnails of the USAF and USN, unlike the USA and Marines which at least have low-ranks risking their lives in action.

So I predict that this open-war-with-CinC SNAFU is enough to put paid to an entire flock of Admirals and Rear Admirals and Vice Admirals. Plus all the underlings whom they biss on in their rage.

Meanwhile Orangutan positively acquires a halo in the eyes of the Faithful.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vijayk » 24 Nov 2019 10:08

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/11 ... key-voters
New Poll suggests Deomcrats Impeachment push could alienate the key voters

Alas, for the Democrats, the promising numbers of late October and early November rapidly dissipated, and polling numbers have reverted to a level more consistent with long-term opinions on President Trump. In the latest Politico/Morning Consult poll, released on November 19, Independents opposed impeachment and removal from office 46% to 39%, a number close to the rolling averages of the last few weeks. It is notable that the poll was fielded after the first public impeachment hearings. Even the compelling testimony of witnesses like Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, failed to move the needle on public opinion. That doesn’t mean further hearings won’t energize greater opposition to Trump, but it’s a little hard to imagine more effective testimony than that offered by Yovanovitch and some of her Foreign Service colleagues.

To understand the relative lack of enthusiasm among Independents for impeachment, I took a close look at data from the most recent Politico/Morning Consult tracking poll, a poll in which the Hive had the opportunity to propose questions focused on Independents and their views.


"Fundamentally, most Independents want Congress to focus on the issues that impact their lives. They have not been convinced that curtailing the bad acts of Donald Trump would have any tangible effect.


Don't tell any Democrat that. Then you are a Trumpie

The second factor is the view among Independents that impeachment reflects the agenda of the political establishment and the media. Regardless of what they think about Trump’s behavior, Independents see impeachment as a continuation of the partisan bickering and media excess that began even before his inauguration. By massive margins, Independents say that the impeachment issue is “more important to politicians than it is to me” (62% to 22%) and “more important to the media than it is to me” (61% to 23%). It is hard to read this as anything but a warning to the Democratic leadership and candidates: Stop talking about issues that matter to you, not to me.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby A_Gupta » 24 Nov 2019 11:36

The House has passed some 275 bills, all held up in the Republican Senate. Many are in the category of “"Fundamentally, most Independents want Congress to focus on the issues that impact their lives.”. Fundamentally most Americans are low-information. Which is why Trump prevails.

Further:
Democrats Know Trump Won’t Be Removed. They’re Still Amped About Impeachment.
They see the process as good for American democracy—and for their party’s chances in 2020
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... mp/602449/

What’s more, the impeachment process carries a real risk for Democrats: Just as it appears to be exciting their own base ahead of the 2020 primary season, the process may also be exciting Trump’s.

Most of the Democratic voters who gathered on the Hill to watch history in the making these past two weeks said that they were keenly aware of this possibility. Still, they said, they believe that the impeachment inquiry was a risk worth taking.

“I’m reassured,” said Bannon Kulsrethsiri, “that [democracy] in this country is not completely kaput.”

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vijayk » 24 Nov 2019 17:47

A_Gupta wrote:The House has passed some 275 bills, all held up in the Republican Senate. Many are in the category of “"Fundamentally, most Independents want Congress to focus on the issues that impact their lives.”. Fundamentally most Americans are low-information. Which is why Trump prevails.

Further:
Democrats Know Trump Won’t Be Removed. They’re Still Amped About Impeachment.
They see the process as good for American democracy—and for their party’s chances in 2020
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... mp/602449/

What’s more, the impeachment process carries a real risk for Democrats: Just as it appears to be exciting their own base ahead of the 2020 primary season, the process may also be exciting Trump’s.

Most of the Democratic voters who gathered on the Hill to watch history in the making these past two weeks said that they were keenly aware of this possibility. Still, they said, they believe that the impeachment inquiry was a risk worth taking.

“I’m reassured,” said Bannon Kulsrethsiri, “that [democracy] in this country is not completely kaput.”


Dems are charged up. No doubt.
But they need Ind to win WH and keep House.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 24 Nov 2019 18:31

vijayk+A_Gupta wrote:The House has passed some 275 bills, all held up in the Republican Senate.
Fundamentally most Americans are low-information. Dems are charged up. No doubt.


Can't comment on Americans, but can on Mongolians. I am also "low-information" because I scan CNN and ABC every din. A totally honest statement: I cannot name one solitary Resolution or Bill that has been passed by this House, not dealing with attacking the President. Of course I must be far stupider and less sophisticated than the average American voter. Boonies/ hillbillies, they call us.

The cost (to the user) of prescription drugs is shooting up by 50 to 100% starting January 1, 2020. WHY? Is there 50% inflation? Or collusion by COTUS and Big Pharma/Big Insurance to brutally rip off the public, with absolutely no controls on greed?

Auto insurance rates have skyrocketed. Why? What is COTUS doing about it?

The Education System is broken. The only change I have seen due to legislation is that now CAMPUS CARRY is permitted. All hail to Freedom. Not booze. GUNS. Inside the classroom. Maybe marijuana as well. Congratulations to the COTUS (and in this case, State Houses).

The Immigration system is totally broken. OK, that may not affect the VOTER, but only the voter's relatives. Friends. Employees. Co-workers. Competitiveness of their products. Survival of their employer companies. Their paychecks. Ability to put food on the table. Oh! So Immigration DOES matter to the voter!

The borders are leaking worse than an armed invasion. One million coming in per year to the bottom tier of society at best, probably including veteran or 2-b violent criminals. May show up at the VOTER's door. Or in the streets where the VOTER's children must walk.

I could go on... but I cannot name ONE Bill passed by this House. I don't even hear about the Senate, they could all be lying under tables in assorted DC bars for all I know. But then what do I know?

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby darshan » 24 Nov 2019 18:59

All insurance rates in general have gone up. Reminds me of a PBS episode around 2012 where one analyst was going on and on about by 2020 people would be paying lot more for insurances in general due to certain decisions being made by the politicians while public is sleeping.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby pankajs » 24 Nov 2019 20:22

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/statu ... 0026506241
Ryan Fournier @RyanAFournier

A judge has ruled that all three of Nicholas Sandmann’s lawsuits against the Washington Post, CNN and NBC can go forward.

This is a big win for the Covington kids.

It’s time to hold the dishonest media accountable!

RT

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vijayk » 24 Nov 2019 21:38

Just look at how sad and pathetic NYT and their gang of F*ing idiots try to screw Tulsi andgets destroyed ...



Another Clinton tink tank Neera who abuses Tusli day in and day out


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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Mort Walker » 24 Nov 2019 21:44

So on side we have DT and the right wing racists and on the other the anarchists-socialist-islamists. Both sides wanting to screw its own peoples and constantly interfere in the affairs of other countries of the world. The US is a sham democracy and survives due to the world using the USD as the currency for energy and trade.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby vijayk » 24 Nov 2019 22:15

Mort Walker wrote:So on side we have DT and the right wing racists and on the other the anarchists-socialist-islamists. Both sides wanting to screw its own peoples and constantly interfere in the affairs of other countries of the world. The US is a sham democracy and survives due to the world using the USD as the currency for energy and trade.


Image

This is what Neera Tenden wrote (exposed by Julian Assangae) ...

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Nov 2019 02:38

Just watched that NYT "journalist" prove the old saying:
Ignorance can be cured. Stupidity is permanent.

Can't say that there aren't happy ppl in the US of A... :mrgreen:

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

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This is classic. Mayor Pete was so roasted he was fumin'.

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Postby Mort Walker » 25 Nov 2019 08:25

It would be interesting to see what Indian origin people like Neera Tanden's opinion is on India? I'm willing to bet dollars-to-donuts that she's an IINO (as Ramanagaru stated) and falls in line with with Warren-Sanders-Ro-Jaypal-Omar. What little I do know is that she and her brother were raised by her mother after their parents divorced. She seems to have been smart enough to get into an Ivy League law school and that has been her ticket to the halls of power in Washington.

Unlike Israeli or Jewish origin people in government, Indian origin people have been a mixed bag with some great disappointments.

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Postby A_Gupta » 25 Nov 2019 08:32

Sorry Ulan Barolo, but the House has passed, e.g., 9 bills for improving veteran care. Now you can interpret these as “attacking Trump” — if he MAGAed, how can veteran care need improvement? Or accept one’s limitations.

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Postby UlanBatori » 25 Nov 2019 08:45

^^ But what I said is that I did not see any of those on CNN. Or ABC. Which is what those polls say: ppl are sick of seeing only the :(( :(( :twisted: on those channels, and most US MSM.

Fixing the VA would take a World War-3 type effort. From the number N of bills passed, I suspect that at least N-1 of the bills did not do the job.. So what were they about? Just posturing?

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Postby Mort Walker » 25 Nov 2019 08:48

^^^The devil is in the details. No doubt the House probably put poison pills in the legislation.

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Postby UlanBatori » 25 Nov 2019 08:50

I have to apologize to Guptaji. He does absolutely awesome, quantitative, accurate research. I was going to say "objective" but sorry I don't want to lie.
And the only truth I have stated is probably that I am clueless.
Tired of giving sidestepping answers to such wonderfully reasoned and information-filled posts. Used to be an opening batsman in the days b4 helmets and face-guards, and my main job was to avoid getting my bat on the outswingers and bouncers. Hardly ever scored any runs except by accident (inside edge missed stumps and keeper..). Just let the bowlers sweat, fume and get the shine off the ball.

Whew! A big load off my conscience.

Back to supporting Trump. :mrgreen:

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Postby A_Gupta » 25 Nov 2019 15:23

Oh, do defend Trump all you want - but I doubt you can without misleading rhetoric and Harry-Potter like fiction.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Nov 2019 18:14

What REALLY matters in US politics
Yindoos may dhoti-shiver about whether certain candidates by virtue of relijjun are good or bad, but some people have much more clarity in their minds about what matters.

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UlanBatori wrote:What REALLY matters in US politics
Yindoos may dhoti-shiver about whether certain candidates by virtue of relijjun are good or bad, but some people have much more clarity in their minds about what matters.


This whole 'Jewish presidential candidate' is moot. Non-leftist whitey will never vote for a jew as their president just like they will never vote a Hindu Tulsi for a president even though many may agree with her views. When it comes to Tulsi, even a "progressive leftist" wont vote her unless she is Hindu in name only and displays hatred for Hindu culture and India.

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Postby UlanBatori » 25 Nov 2019 19:42

Ronyji: Long ago, there was a joke making the rounds in my (fascist right-wing military-industrial complex) circles:

The Rev. Jesse Jackson (a recent POTUS candidate then, and IMO someone who made really memorable speeches) went to The Lawd and said:

Lawd, when will we see a Jewish President in the USA?
"Sooner than you think, Jesse, sooner than you think. Be patient!"
Lawd, when will we see a Woman President in the USA?
"In your lifetime, Jesse, in your lifetime!"
Lawd, when will we see an (**African-American**) President in the USA?
"Not in MY lifetime, Jesse, not in MY lifetime! :evil: "


Now note that BO completed TWO terms. So essentially there have been 2 AA POTii already!
US came perilously close to the First Wimmen POTUS, HiC.

So just a Billionaire gora Y is not a problem. Will sweep Noo Yoik, NJ, CA and FL. The massive media support, far beyond what he will simply buy or order, will be unprecedented.
A woman not-quite-Caucasian (she looks way too good-looking and intelligent and lacks the hard mean look, must be part Hawaiian/Polynesian) yindoo is a much further stretch, but she has the one impeccable credential: Veteran who has at least visited combat areas. I think only Butt-e-gig has any MIL credentials, of the rest of the bunch. The times have changed, but that credential is worth many percentage points. Unless the Deep State manages to demolish/discredit that. I am sure they are working on it, so she would be smart to quite the National Guard ASAP.
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Postby UlanBatori » 25 Nov 2019 19:46

I still remember watching Jesse Jackson's speeches from Mongolia:
Most of us have to work "from cyaint to cyaint".
When we go out to work it is so dark we cyaint see where we are going...
And when we return from work it is so dark we cyaint see where we are going.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby Primus » 25 Nov 2019 20:21

Here is a snippet of the HSC event at Rutgers with Vivek Agnihotri. It was indeed held at a local temple from the initial shot of the schedule.


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Postby hanumadu » 25 Nov 2019 20:52

UlanBatori wrote:A woman not-quite-Caucasian (she looks way too good-looking and intelligent and lacks the hard mean look, must be part Hawaiian/Polynesian) yindoo ...


German White Mom (HIndu) and Polynesian father (Catholic).

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Nov 2019 23:25

Update: Navy SEAL to retire and keep his SEAL Trident Pin. Navy Secretary FIRED.
Moral: don't mess with POTUS.

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Postby UlanBatori » 25 Nov 2019 23:26

Primus wrote:Here is a snippet of the HSC event at Rutgers with Vivek Agnihotri. It was indeed held at a local temple from the initial shot of the schedule.



Cool. I am not watching it (too upsetting) but I gather that the location ensured lack of the usual entertainment (who won't enter a temple in case their tails and horns catch fire). Hope there is a full, high-quality PPT somewhere that one can disseminate? Thx.

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Postby A_Gupta » 26 Nov 2019 00:08

From Northeastern University School of Journalism

http://www.storybench.org/how-news-medi ... ng-policy/
How news media are setting the 2020 election agenda: Chasing daily controversies, often burying policy


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