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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 14 Jan 2020 23:30
by UlanBatori
Don't want PO/CO/SDO/WHO-US saying nothin on POK/JKL, thx. They can promise to have a comms blackout when India drives Pakis out of POK.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 14 Jan 2020 23:34
by sooraj
FTA???

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 03:03
by khatvaanga
a very interesting thread on where DJT stands. And the "mandate" Clinton, Bush and Obama were given to do..

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1217133261899685890.html

Turns out GOP politics mirrors Dems politics almost exactly. In the 1990s/2000s, Clinton and Bush reacted to the end of the Cold War with a fascinating experiment. They sought to break business and finance from control of the state.


There was also a perception that Clinton, and then Bush and Obama, were seeking a safe handoff to China in terms of global hegemony. These three Presidents' job was to manage the decline of the American empire, safely. That was the GOP hardline perception.
5. George W. Bush was pro-immigrant, pro-China, went to war in Iraq, and oversaw the collapse of American finance. He was a catastrophe, in the eyes of populist conservatives And yet, the GOP neoliberals were fanatics. They didn't admit any errors. Their machine was perfect.
6. Obama shocked the GOP the way Trump shocked Democrats. And a debate started. The Tea Party wave began attacking Bush neoliberals. But no one would go after Bush in any real way, so Romney took the nomination in 2012.


13. So while the #NeverTrumpers sometimes sound like they could be Democrats, they are in fact just allies of the upper class faction of the Democrats, and the upper class faction of the GOP. They want rule by aristocrats in a global utopia of free capital flows.
14. Trump is trying to construct a 19th century GOP coalition, uniting labor and Wall Street using protectionist policies. He sees himself oddly on the side both of the little guy and the big guy, against the snotty technocrat progressive, the upper class and the foreigner.
15. Meanwhile the Democrats probably like George W. Bush almost as much as the Republicans do at this point. He's cute! He paints! He wasn't that bad!

That's exactly the upper class narrative #NeverTrumpers believe.

16. The truth is, that libertarian machine constructed in the 1990s and 2000s has totally failed to deliver any semblance of justice or social stability in America. Bush was a true catastrophe, and he set us up for a realignment because he was just that bad.
17. Obama could've realigned the country if he had taken the side of the working class instead of China/Wall Street. He didn't. Now we have Pelosi going after Mitch McConnell over Russia, even though McConnell is married to a China PRC connected shipping magnate. Neoliberalism!
18. I don't think Trump can realign the country. He's too racist and not smart enough. For example, despite his anti-China tough talk, he appointed McConnell's wife to his cabinet.

But someone's going to do it. And the #NeverTrumpers will hate them for it.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 05:53
by UlanBatori
^^Way too complex for us yakherders. Gimme mah 6-pack and beef jerky and tobacky and a widescreen TeeVee. To watch dem missiles and dem Hail Mary touchdown passes at the SooperBowl. "Explained" by big-***ted blondes w/ 1/8-inch layer of makeup. Heaven IS the US of A! We all know dem librals are ruining the country and selling it to the durned fawrners, and Prez Trump is MAGA.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 09:24
by ramana
Vikas wrote:
ramana wrote:In other news the Democrat Candidate Cory Booker dropped out of the Presidential nomination race.

Its now all monochrome.
Rainbow gone.


Are there any dork horses left in the race or would it be Biden v/s Sanders finally ?


One old time told me Democrat party backroom folks always manage to get their candidate nominated. HRC was pushed forward on unwilling party.

Similarly there is a tactic in Pelosi sending the impeachment resolution forward. There are two Senators Sanders and Warren who will be tied up leaving field clear for Biden the chosen candidate.

So keep an eye.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 12:01
by Vikas
khatvaanga wrote:a very interesting thread on where DJT stands. And the "mandate" Clinton, Bush and Obama were given to do..

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1217133261899685890.html

Turns out GOP politics mirrors Dems politics almost exactly. In the 1990s/2000s, Clinton and Bush reacted to the end of the Cold War with a fascinating experiment. They sought to break business and finance from control of the state.


There was also a perception that Clinton, and then Bush and Obama, were seeking a safe handoff to China in terms of global hegemony. These three Presidents' job was to manage the decline of the American empire, safely. That was the GOP hardline perception.


I have never understood this line of narrative in various journals including BRF. Why would USA want to hand over power of hegemony to China along with business and money on a platter ? They propped up china purely for manufacturing needs and to play it against USSR/Russia until China went rogue and decided to ride on its own path.

I pretty much doubt this whole narrative of USA bringing in China as local Policeman knowing pretty well that civilizations like India and China will not be pliant to any external power and whatever they do might be added to the bucket of Taqqiyaa (yeah, we all do that). Civilizations memory teaches these countries to be default dominant world power (Middle kingdom, VishvaGuru koolaid ) irrespective of current status and that is what they will strive to be at the very first opportunity.

So why this narrative ?

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 12:05
by Vikas
ramana wrote:
Vikas wrote:
Are there any dork horses left in the race or would it be Biden v/s Sanders finally ?


One old time told me Democrat party backroom folks always manage to get their candidate nominated. HRC was pushed forward on unwilling party.

Similarly there is a tactic in Pelosi sending the impeachment resolution forward. There are two Senators Sanders and Warren who will be tied up leaving field clear for Biden the chosen candidate.

So keep an eye.


If I extrapolate historical references, Very few vice presidents have gone on to become Presidents by electoral vote. Last one was Bush Sr. about 30 years ago.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 14:07
by pankajs
Just had this thought ... Bezos buying Washington post looks like his long-term plan to facilitate his bid for POTUS sometime in the future.

Also,
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2020-01-15
Amazon's Jeff Bezos visits India, invokes Mahatma Gandhi’s teachings at his memorial

Bezos' visit to India comes in wake of the Competition Commission of India initiating an investigation into alleged competition law violations by Amazon Inc and Walmart-backed Flipkart.

Amazon's CEO Jeff Bezos is India and one of the first things he did was visit Mahatma Gandhi's memorial in Delhi. And understandably, one of the first things he did was post a video on Twitter of his visit. For obvious reasons, when the world's richest man decided to pay his respects to the Mahatama, or in his words "someone who truly changed the world", he decided to so wearing Indian traditional attire -- white kurta and an orange half-jacket.

His tweet which captured it all showed the whole exchange. "Just landed in India and spent a beautiful afternoon paying my respects to someone who truly changed the world. "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." - Mahatma Gandhi," he tweeted.
A thing that one has come to expect of a politician!
For the uninitiated, the man behind Amazon is here in India for a two-day flagship event being organised by the company for small and medium businesses. The event will kick-start in Delhi on Wednesday, and along the sidelines of the event, he is expected to meet key leaders and policymakers, including Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 14:33
by Vikas
pankajs wrote:Just had this thought ... Bezos buying Washington post looks like his long-term plan to facilitate his bid for POTUS sometime in the future.


If DT can, Then why can't Jeff. He is successful, super rich and Dem-leaning. DT had 'Apprentice' , He has WaPo :)
If interested, His best bet would be to try his luck in 2024 otherwise it gets too late.

From Inside source, Don't be surprised if he buys out Big Bazar completely to capture brick and mortar economy of retail stores. Meeting with key stakeholders could also be to encourage GOI to move to Amazon cloud instead of any local vendor.
This simple act could unlock deal worth few billions.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 23:38
by Mort Walker
Vikas wrote:
pankajs wrote:Just had this thought ... Bezos buying Washington post looks like his long-term plan to facilitate his bid for POTUS sometime in the future.


If DT can, Then why can't Jeff. He is successful, super rich and Dem-leaning. DT had 'Apprentice' , He has WaPo :)
If interested, His best bet would be to try his luck in 2024 otherwise it gets too late.

From Inside source, Don't be surprised if he buys out Big Bazar completely to capture brick and mortar economy of retail stores. Meeting with key stakeholders could also be to encourage GOI to move to Amazon cloud instead of any local vendor.
This simple act could unlock deal worth few billions.


Wow. There are a couple of hundred Big Bazzar stores across India. It is privately held from what little I know. Generally they occupy the basement floor in malls.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 15 Jan 2020 23:58
by UlanBatori
No comment on this Braying Lovefest. #CNNistrash is apparently a Donkeystani handle now.
Wonder if there has been any POTUSial Debate where the Donkey and the Elephant just came to the same podium and agreed with each other. Clones now.
Refused to shake hands. Wow! Proved Bernie's point, didn't she? POTUS: Petty -Coat of the United States As petty as it gets.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 16 Jan 2020 22:29
by Kati
China's Propaganda Machine Greased by the New York Times and Washington Post: Human Rights Watchdog
The National Interest
Peter Hasson
,The National Interest•January 15, 202097 Comments

America’s leading newspapers are aiding China’s communist regime by running the oppressive government’s propaganda, respected watchdog organization Freedom House reported.

The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Times have all run paid supplements from China Daily, the Chinese government’s state media arm. The paid supplements, dubbed “China Watch,” are designed to look like real news articles.

The paid supplements are a way in which Chinese state media “exploit foreign media outlets,” Freedom House warned in its report, “Beijing’s Global Megaphone.”

“In the case of the Washington Post and some other publications, China Watch also appears as an online feature, further blurring the lines between Chinese state media content and the host outlet’s own reporting,” the report noted.

The Daily Caller News Foundation reached out to all three newspapers to ask if they would commit to cease running the paid supplements, given the Chinese regime’s persecution of ethnic and religious minorities, and whether they would disclose how much revenue they received from the Chinese advertisements.

Neither the NYT nor the WSJ committed to either measure. WaPo did not return the DCNF’s inquiry.

“The New York Times covers China thoroughly and aggressively, and at no time has advertising influenced our coverage. In fact, the publication of this story in 2012 on the hidden wealth of the family of China’s prime minister resulted in The Times being blocked on all platforms in mainland China, which continues to this day,” NYT vice president Eileen Murphy told the DCNF.

“We’re committed to reporting on China, and fund our Chinese-language site and bureaus in Beijing and Shanghai (as well as Hong Kong) at a significant cost,” she added.

“We also continue to cover China fearlessly. Our recent investigation based on more than 400 pages of leaked internal Chinese documents provided an unprecedented look into the government’s crackdown on ethnic minorities in the Xinjiang region,” said Murphy.

Read the original article.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 17 Jan 2020 00:29
by kit
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/book-claims-trump-has-no-idea-india-has-a-border-with-china/articleshow/73286221.cms


Donald Trump may be a "big fan" of India, but it appears there were startling gaps in his knowledge of the country's geography until recently.

And, if a new book by two Pulitzer-winning journalists is anything to go by, the US president's poor grasp of the South Asia map once left Prime Minister Narendra Modi stunned.

What did Trump tell Modi?

"It's not like you've got China on your border." :shock:

Not only do India and China share a long border, but they disagree on territorial issues and have faced off in a war (1962) and another low-scale conflict (1967), not to mention the recent standoff at the Doklam plateau. Keep in mind, too, that China's friendship with India's biggest adversary, Pakistan, is of enormous consequence -- diplomatically and militarily.

Donald Trump's conversation with Prime Minister Narendra Modi was part of a slew of revelations made by two Washington Post journalists. They wrote that Modi's eyes "bulged out in surprise", and that his expression "gradually shifted, from shock and concern to resignation".

In fact, they quoted a Trump aide to report that New Delhi "took a step back" in its diplomatic ties with Washington after the meeting -- although it isn't clear from the Post's report when it took place. Trump and PM Modi recently appeared on stage together at a Houston event and offered each other glowing praise -- Modi even said "ab ki baar, Trump sarkar" -- and New Delhi is said to be in talks with Washington for a possible Trump visit to India.

Equally alarming are reports by TIME magazine and Politico, which describe a briefing where President Trump said he knew Nepal and Bhutan were both parts of India -- he pronounced the names "nipple" and "button" -- and had to be corrected. :((

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 17 Jan 2020 01:08
by ramana
Those two are WaPo journos hardly credible.
Timed to Impeachment drama.
This report debunked on Twitter already.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 17 Jan 2020 01:11
by Kati
What's the possibility that the Fake News Cabal is spreading misinformation ^^^ about DT as he may pay a visit to Bharat?
DT riles them thoroughly by calling them Fake News Network (FNN).

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 17 Jan 2020 05:23
by g.sarkar
https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/pm-m ... dia-report
PM Modi Snubs Jeff Bezos Over Amazon CEO Owned Washington Post Misrepresenting Facts To Attack India: Report
by IANS, Jan 16, 2020,
In what appears to be a sensational turn of events, Prime Minister Narendra Modi seems to have given a cold shoulder to the world's richest man -- Jeff Bezos, with an estimated net worth of $115 billion, by not meeting him.
While the Amazon chief came to India on Tuesday (14 January), there wasn't any significant government engagement till late Wednesday (15 January) till the filing of this report.
And in the latest, top sources in the current establishment has confirmed to IANS that Modi won't be meeting Bezos. If sources are to be believed, this cold shouldering has little to do with the ongoing probe on Amazon by the Competition Commission of India and more to do with the critical stand of the Washington Post - owned by Bezos - against the Indian government.
Though, the top tycoon has been heaping praise on India and Indian market ever since he landed up in India on Tuesday by saying the 21st century will be an Indian century, nothing seems to have fructified as far as a meeting between the two is concerned.
According to Forbes, "Bezos has reportedly sought a meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi. But it has not been confirmed whether the Amazon chief executive will meet with India's head of state." But as the day progressed, the elusive meeting seemed to be more elusive. And Bezos' ownership of Washington Post appears to have played a key reason behind it.
The US daily's editorial stand has been extremely critical of the BJP-led Central government, more so after Modi swept back to power with 303 seats in the lok Sabha.
After India's abrogation of Article 370, that gave special powers to the erstwhile state of Jammu and Kashmir, the daily published a series of articles, both news and opinion, where it even took potshots at Modi being conferred "Global Goalkeeper" award from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
In more recent times, the daily has lent its space to Indian journalists like Rana Ayyub or Barkha Dutt, whose blatant criticism of the current dispensation only seems to have amplified with an international platform, which many in the Modi government did not take kindly.
On 13 December 2019, the daily published an article under the headline "India's new law may leave millions of Muslims without citizenship" which appears to have particularly offended the government.
......
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https://www.news18.com/news/business/co ... 58721.html
Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal Unlikely to Meet Amazon's Jeff Bezos During His India Visit
Bezos, who is currently visiting India, has come under investigations on multiple counts, including deep discounts and exclusive tie-up with preferred sellers in the country.
IANSUpdated:January 15, 2020
New Delhi: Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal is unlikely to meet e-commerce major Amazon's global CEO Jeff Bezos, who is visiting India. According to sources, the minister's office has not given any appointment to Bezos.
There were speculations that Amazon's CEO might meet the minister here on Wednesday, but the sources rebutted these claims.
The e-commerce player has come under investigations on multiple counts, including deep discounts and exclusive tie-up with preferred sellers, in India. It had faced similar investigations in the EU and the US.
......
Gautam

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 17 Jan 2020 09:33
by Mort Walker
^^^I'm glad that neither Modi or Goyal met with Bozos. Don't need to meet him. If he wants to do business in India, he's welcome, but put a lid on the Washington Compost.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 17 Jan 2020 14:59
by Vikas
Mort Walker wrote:^^^I'm glad that neither Modi or Goyal met with Bozos. Don't need to meet him. If he wants to do business in India, he's welcome, but put a lid on the Washington Compost.


Mort Ji, I am conflicted on this. Newspapers should be independent enough to publish any garbage they want without any interference of the owner. Isn't it. Otherwise they end up being another rNDTV or HT.
Why do we want JB to control the narrative in WaPo to define our business engagements with him ? We have equally bad rascals in our print media yet getting Govt doles and Ad contracts.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 17 Jan 2020 16:27
by anmol
Vikas wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:^^^I'm glad that neither Modi or Goyal met with Bozos. Don't need to meet him. If he wants to do business in India, he's welcome, but put a lid on the Washington Compost.


Mort Ji, I am conflicted on this. Newspapers should be independent enough to publish any garbage they want without any interference of the owner. Isn't it. Otherwise they end up being another rNDTV or HT.
Why do we want JB to control the narrative in WaPo to define our business engagements with him ? We have equally bad rascals in our print media yet getting Govt doles and Ad contracts.


JB bought WP for the same reason Ambanis have a stake in number of news media organizations (including NDTV), KM Birla has a stake in India Today, same reason Tata is funding TheWire, ThePrint etc.

IMO, they are all funding these magazines, newspapers, and channels so that they can influence government(s).

Do what JB,Birla,Tata,Ambani want: Good coverage.
Do what JB,Birla,Tata,Ambani don't want: Bad coverage.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 17 Jan 2020 21:30
by Vikas
anmol wrote:
Vikas wrote:
Mort Ji, I am conflicted on this. Newspapers should be independent enough to publish any garbage they want without any interference of the owner. Isn't it. Otherwise they end up being another rNDTV or HT.
Why do we want JB to control the narrative in WaPo to define our business engagements with him ? We have equally bad rascals in our print media yet getting Govt doles and Ad contracts.


JB bought WP for the same reason Ambanis have a stake in number of news media organizations (including NDTV), KM Birla has a stake in India Today, same reason Tata is funding TheWire, ThePrint etc.

IMO, they are all funding these magazines, newspapers, and channels so that they can influence government(s).

Do what JB,Birla,Tata,Ambani want: Good coverage.
Do what JB,Birla,Tata,Ambani don't want: Bad coverage.


Great point so does that make Tata, an enemy of the state knowing that TheWire and ThePrint are anti-Hindu, Anti-BJP and pro-BIF (I personally don't read these 2 garbage cans except for headlines).
Does someone like JB or MotaBhai need a newspaper ownership to influence govt ?

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 18 Jan 2020 00:15
by UlanBatori
^ Why relevant to Understanding US pls?

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 18 Jan 2020 00:42
by kit
Vikas wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:^^^I'm glad that neither Modi or Goyal met with Bozos. Don't need to meet him. If he wants to do business in India, he's welcome, but put a lid on the Washington Compost.


Mort Ji, I am conflicted on this. Newspapers should be independent enough to publish any garbage they want without any interference of the owner. Isn't it. Otherwise they end up being another rNDTV or HT.
Why do we want JB to control the narrative in WaPo to define our business engagements with him ? We have equally bad rascals in our print media yet getting Govt doles and Ad contracts.


No newspaper anywhere is "free of interference" , by its very nature they have become tools of propoganda and counter propoganda, the change has already happened.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 02:03
by ramana
CAIR got $100K funding from US govt.

Hindus in America need to think about supporting Super PAC to advance their interests.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 04:07
by Vayutuvan
ramana wrote:Similarly there is a tactic in Pelosi sending the impeachment resolution forward. There are two Senators Sanders and Warren who will be tied up leaving field clear for Biden the chosen candidate.

So keep an eye.


HiC has a path to presidency in 2021 or 2024 as follows.

1. In a brokered convention, Biden gets the nomination provided that he chooses HiC as his running mate. Bloomberg would support, financially speaking, HiC. Since he is part of the Wall Street gang, he and his friends would get deals from HiC to line their pockets
2. During the presidential/Vpresidential debates, DNC would leak through third parties, that Biden was on the take in Ukraine. One or two credible sexual harassment cases against him would turn up
3. If Biden loses, then HiC says it was due to Biden's problems, hat Dems lost the elections. That will pave way to her seeking 2024 nomination
4. If Biden becomes POTUS, then a few months or a year into his presidency, DNC will start (again through turd parties for plausible deniability) a rumor that he is losing it (his memory etc.) to create a trifecta of Ukarine-Sexual Harassment by him-dementia. He will be pressurized to resign
5. HiC will take over and then 2024 she will have a second term as well

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 05:12
by John
China needs to stop pretending like they are super power when they fold quicker than Mexico in trade deals because of trumps bullying. Haven’t seen a trade deal this one sided in a while at least France seems to have balls to refuse to negotiate on its digital tax.

Fact they wussed out so easily only going to put pressure on Europe and India come trade negotiation time with US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/15/steve-b ... lainternal

Trump ‘broke the Chinese Communist Party’ with phase one trade deal, says Steve Bannon

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 09:19
by Mort Walker
Vayutuvan wrote:
ramana wrote:Similarly there is a tactic in Pelosi sending the impeachment resolution forward. There are two Senators Sanders and Warren who will be tied up leaving field clear for Biden the chosen candidate.

So keep an eye.


HiC has a path to presidency in 2021 or 2024 as follows.

1. In a brokered convention, Biden gets the nomination provided that he chooses HiC as his running mate. Bloomberg would support, financially speaking, HiC. Since he is part of the Wall Street gang, he and his friends would get deals from HiC to line their pockets
2. During the presidential/Vpresidential debates, DNC would leak through third parties, that Biden was on the take in Ukraine. One or two credible sexual harassment cases against him would turn up
3. If Biden loses, then HiC says it was due to Biden's problems, hat Dems lost the elections. That will pave way to her seeking 2024 nomination
4. If Biden becomes POTUS, then a few months or a year into his presidency, DNC will start (again through turd parties for plausible deniability) a rumor that he is losing it (his memory etc.) to create a trifecta of Ukarine-Sexual Harassment by him-dementia. He will be pressurized to resign
5. HiC will take over and then 2024 she will have a second term as well


To be the leader of a major country, age makes a difference. The ideal age is in the mid-to-late 50s. At that age most people won't make rash decisions, but still have enough vigor to run the country. In Jan. 2021:

Sanders: 79
Bloomberg: 78
Biden: 78
Trump: 74
HiC: 73
Warren: 71
Klobuchar: 60
Yang: 46
Pete: 39
Tulsi: 39


It is very unlikely that any of those in their 70s now will be in any condition to run the country in Jan. 2025, and Trump exits then. In 1998, Vajapayee was 74 and he was nearly 80 when running again in 2004, which was physically challenging. Modi was nearly 64 when first elected and is nearly 70 now. In 2024, Modi will be 74 and that will most likely be his last term.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 09:48
by Vikas
Mort Ji, With advanced medicine and better life style, 70's is the new 60's.

Meanwhile I don't see HC back on Dem nominations. She may want to but not likely to happen.
There are enough candidates in wall street's pocket across the political spectrum.
She had her chance and she could not cash it.
Getting picked up as running mate of Biden is like a step down for her.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 18:17
by Rony
What is The Base ? FBI arrest of alleged white supremacists puts focus on extremist group

The decentralized neo-Nazi movement has chapters across the U.S. and the world, and experts say members' threats of violence should be taken seriously.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wh ... t-n1117981

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 18:41
by UlanBatori
^ Black Swan candidates. Yahoos screaming about Gun Rights is just noise. Yahoos linking up with, say their buddies in Russia or Ukraine or Kazakhstan (or US of course) or France or UK who have access to interesting resources, can be a totally different level of problem. Hopefully Free Biscuits and KayJeeBee are on the ball, but where are the sympathies of their own agints I wonder.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 20 Jan 2020 19:37
by UlanBatori

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 21 Jan 2020 00:28
by ramana
sooraj wrote:FTA???



You bet. Among other things.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 21 Jan 2020 10:50
by Rony
From leftist outlet

Virginia Gov. Declares State of Emergency for Pro-Gun Rally in Richmond, Fearing Far-Right Agitators
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/ ... rally.html


From rightist outlet

Antifa Group to March in Support of Gun Rights at Virginia Event
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/c ... inia-event

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 22 Jan 2020 05:23
by Vayutuvan
Rony garu, superb catch and funny^100. Some people - vegan by choice who donate to PETA in their campaign to save pigs where as cows are fairgame - were supporting Anitfa woman who tasered a police horse in one of the anti-trump rallies.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 22 Jan 2020 08:16
by John

Haha CNN is desperate to portray everything as a lose for Trump, the deal is badly one sided in Trump favor considering China had him a corner and could have upped the tariff to tank the market while absorbing the short term pain. In which case Trump would have folded heading into impeachment hearings to give him market boost and they could have gotten tariffs removed and Huawei sanctions axed.

But China wussed out since they didn’t want the short term pain while making themselves look weak. Overall China ended up coming out of this pretty bad and gives Trump more leverage on trade deals with rest of world.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 23 Jan 2020 00:25
by ramana
China already has a lot of pain. And you don't need agency poop to figure that out.
Trump knows how to read the tea leaves and drink the tea.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 23 Jan 2020 00:53
by UlanBatori
Wonder if they are exacting revenge elsewhere... like oil trade with Eyeran. RT.com claims that USD will collapse this year as Russa, cheen etc move away from oil trading in USD.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 23 Jan 2020 02:33
by UlanBatori
Don't know where this is headed: TG files defamation suit against Hic

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 23 Jan 2020 03:17
by chetak
no wonder all the unwashed commies are gunning for Trump.

Things are certainly looking up for him.


twitter

Trump, in Davos instead of DC, says he took over an economy in a "rather dismal state" (?!) and has brought "an economic boom the likes of which the world has never seen before."





Replying to @BuzzFeedBen

Allow me to help illuminate you Ben.


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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 23 Jan 2020 05:31
by Mort Walker
Vikas wrote:Mort Ji, With advanced medicine and better life style, 70's is the new 60's.


Early 70s might be, but not in their 80s. If you have parents or grandparents of that age, who are healthy, you will find their outlook on life is wistful, rather than looking forward as person who is 15 years younger.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 23 Jan 2020 07:31
by vijayk
wrong thread