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Democracy on steady decline in Pakistan: Economist Intelligence Unit

ISLAMABAD: The fragile democracy is on a steady retreat in Pakistan despite the fact that the political government is nearing the completion of its term, says a fresh democracy index released by one of the most reputed publications in the world.

According to 10th edition of The Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Index, Pakistan has witnessed a consistent decline in democratic health for the last three years as the country’s score kept declining after 2014 when incidentally a sit-in was staged outside Pakistani Parliament for over four months.

The reputed British publication ranked 167 countries based on their score on a scale of 0 to 10 where 10 represents full democracy and 0 represents authoritarian regime. Pakistan which scored 4.26 last year is classified as hybrid democracy in the index. The Economist index comprises 60 indicators across five broad categories—electoral process and pluralism, functioning of government, political participation, democratic political culture and civil liberties.

After 2013 elections, Pakistan obtained 4.64 but the democracy score started declining after 2014. In 2015, the score dropped to 4.40 followed by a further decline in 2016 to 4.33. Last year, witnessed the lowest score for Pakistan with 4.26 which was only better than 2006 under the dictatorship of General (retd) Pervez Musharraf when the country obtained 3.92 scores.

Within Pakistan, political observers are also complaining that the space for democratic government is shrinking with increasingly assertive establishment and judiciary. The latest verdict by the Supreme Court of Pakistan barring former prime minister Nawaz Sharif from heading his ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz is also being considered a blow to democracy.

“The immediate implications may centre on the political future of one individual, but the judgment has the potential to be hugely disruptive to the democratic process itself,” writes a daily newspaper in its editorial on Friday.

Sharif, who was ousted in July last year through the Supreme Court verdict in the Panama Paper case, continuously complains of conspiracy against the democratic rule. Sharif, a three-time prime minister says efforts are being made to exclude him and his family from Pakistani politics in the guise of corruption cases. Sharif and his family are currently facing three corruption references in an accountability court where they have to appear almost on a daily basis.

He claims that anti-democratic forces are not willing to accept Parliament's supremacy even after the restoration of “democracy” in 2008. Soon after his decisive victory in 2013 elections, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had to face a massive movement launched jointly by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan and Pakistan Awami Tehrik (PAT) leader Allama Tahirul Qadri which culminated at 126-day sit-in at D-Chowk, demanding Prime Minister’s resignation.

Sharif’s close aides claimed that the move was supported by anti-democratic elements who were not happy with an assertive political government. The sit-in only ended after the APS terror attack in Peshawar which claimed lives of 132 schoolchildren. But the anti-Sharif movement continued after the sit-in and he had to fight a battle in the Supreme Court to prove that the 2013 vote was not rigged. The trial of former military ruler General (retd) Musharraf also became a point of contention. Finally the issue was resolved when Musharraf was allowed to leave the country.

After the emergence of Panama Papers in April 2015, the PTI again launched a move to overthrow Nawaz Sharif whose offshore companies were mentioned in the leaked papers. The case ended up in the Supreme Court which announced its verdict in July 2017. Sharif was disqualified by the apex court for not declaring his receivable salary in a Dubai based company Capital FZE, owned by his son. The verdict was hailed as landmark by Imran Khan and other opposition parties but the ruling party complained that a democratic prime minister has been shown the door through a “judicial coup”. A Joint Investigation Team (JIT) formed by the apex court to probe allegations of corruption against Nawaz Sharif was also criticised for political victimisation.

Even before the Sharif disqualification, democratic government did not have a smooth sailing as it had to sacrifice its minister for information over Dawn NewsLeak which refers to a story published in a newspaper. A strong notice was taken of the publication of the story and under immense pressure PML-N had to sack its minister Pervaiz Rashid for his “failure” to stop publication of the story. Adviser to Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi was also sacked for his alleged role in Dawn NewsLeak. Earlier, another Senator Mushahidullah Khan was also dismissed by Sharif for his controversial interview.

The Economist Intelligence Unit’s index of democracy

INDIAN REPUBLIC : Flawed Democracy : No. 35 - OVERALL SCORE : 7.68

TERRORISTAN : Authoritarian regimes : No 113 - OVERALL SCORE : 3.92

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Democracy on steady decline in Pakistan: Economist Intelligence Unit

No sh!t Sherlock.
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Pakistani Perfidy And Steve Coll's New Book

How Directorate S, ISI’s most diabolical branch, outsmarted US in Kabul, continued subverting India
Praveen Swami
24 February, 2018
In plain black ink, below the embroidered letterhead of Pakistan’s Chief of Army Staff, were words designed to deter as effectively as his nuclear weapons. Threats had been made, it recorded, that any act of terrorism against the United States emanating from Pakistan “will warrant a direct action by the United States against Pakistan”. “The consequences of such a scenario for overall security in the region are not difficult to predict,” it went on. “We must do anything and everything possible to avoid such a catastrophe.”
“No more!”, President Donald Trump tweeted on New Year’s day. “The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit”. “They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan”. :mrgreen:
But the letter, revealed by author and journalist Steve Coll in ‘Directorate S’, his account of the failure of the United States’ 9/11 war in Afghanistan, was written in 2010—years before Trump’s threat. Coll’s lushly detailed account investigates the decision-making processes that led Afghanistan into the murderous warfare it is now mired in—and helps understand why Trump’s strategy may achieve little. Gen Kayani was COAS at that time !
In spite of its title, ‘Directorate S’ isn’t, in fact, about Directorate S—the Inter-Services Intelligence wing responsible for covert action in India or Afghanistan. It is about something arguably more significant: precisely why, and how, Directorate S was allowed to succeed in blocking the United States’ efforts to impose a stable, democratic order in Afghanistan. There are few villains, and no heroes, in Coll’s account. Like all good historians, he seeks instead to understand why the actors in this tragedy behaved as they did.
From the outset, Coll’s account shows, Pakistan attempted to deflect responsibility for the attacks from itself, and its client regime in Afghanistan, the Taliban’s Islamic Emirate. President Pervez Musharraf asserted that “al-Qaeda could not have done this”. “They live in caves,” he explained to the United States ambassador in Islamabad, Wendy Chamberlain. “They don’t have the technology to do something like this.” The US fell for this western veneered COAS, who was really an out and out Islamist under his General's uniform :mrgreen:
Major-General Tariq Majid, Musharraf’s military intelligence chief, suggested investigating Cold War era Marxists, like the Red Army Faction, and even Pakistani exiles in Bolivia. :roll:
In the immediate wake of 9/11, much of the United States’ intelligence community saw the ISI as a key strategic partner. Central Intelligence Agency chief George Tenet’s argument ran thus: “The enemy is Al Qaeda; we need Pakistan’s army and ISI to dismantle Al Qaeda; and Pakistan’s stability and interests are at least as important to the United States as Afghanistan’s recovery from Taliban rule.” The US had no "assets ( intelligence) on the ground" in Afghanistan and therefore naively depended on the Pakis to feed them BS :evil:
Robert Grenier, the CIA’s station chief in Islamabad, argued that Pakistan was indeed willing to partner with the United States. The ISI’s post 9/11 chief, Lieutenant-General Ehsan-ul-Haq, he wrote in one top-secret cable, represented a new, moderate (. Moderate and Islamist are relative terms in any context, just like liberal and conservative mean different things in different countries like USA, UK, and Russia !) leadership that was “motivated to cooperate fully with the CIA in the war on terrorism”
From the outset, though, there were sceptics. Gary Schroen, the CIA’s ranking expert on Afghanistan, attacked Grenier, saying the “push to allow the Pakistanis back into the Afghan game was disturbing and a real mistake”. “They had their own specific agenda for the country and it did not track with anything the U.S. government would want to see emerge there in the post-Taliban period.”
Evidence in support of Grenier’s argument wasn’t hard to come by. For example, journalist Ahmed Rashid found the Taliban military commander Mullah Dadullah “living openly in a village outside Quetta”. Leaders of the provincial government, and top jihadist leaders, even attended a lavish family wedding. The famous Quetta Shura and the "non-living" Mullah Omar !
Later, Coll writes, Afghan intelligence and the CIA jointly provided the ISI with the details of the locations of top Taliban leaders inside Pakistan, some of whom were under surveillance. “Within forty-eight hours, all of them moved,” Coll writes. “The Americans watched them disappear”. The Pakis cannot be trusted . POTUS is right !
Why did Pakistan act as it did? Hamid Karzai, Afghanistan’s President, met with General Kayani to address this issue.“The heart of Kayani’s offer to Karzai,” Coll records, “was ‘We can help you sort out the insurgency, we can turn it off’”. In exchange, he writes, Pakistan would expect an end to Indian influence in Afghanistan. Karzai should know first hand about Paki perfidy. His father was killed by the ISI in Quetta !
But Indian influence in Afghanistan was minimal—and Pakistani offered other, more plausible explanations to its United States interlocutors. “The CIA’s drone war was driving the Afghan Taliban, the Pakistani Taliban, Al Qaeda, and the Haqqanis into closer cooperation, particularly in North Waziristan, the ISI feared,” Coll writes. Kayani argued that “this was dangerous for both Pakistan and the United States”. The US "purchased" this BS from the western (US) trained General lock, stock and barrel :twisted:
Increasingly, the ISI knew, even elements of loyal jihadist clients like the Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad were turning against Islamabad—a consequence of the forces unleashed by the fighting in Afghanistan. Moreover, with a steady flow of revenue from narcotics, Afghan jihadists were increasingly independent of the ISI. The answer, from Pakistan’s optic, was to install the Taliban back in Kabul—either alone, or as part of a coalition—thus breaking up the emerging jihadist challenge.
Hoping this end would also facilitate the United States’ exit from the Afghan war, President Obama authorised an ambitious secret outreach to the Taliban, led by the German diplomat Michael Steiner (later his country’s ambassador to New Delhi) and veteran peacemaker Richard Holbrooke. Though promising much, their efforts failed: the Taliban couldn’t, or wouldn’t, make peace on terms that were offered, and what they wanted was certain to provoke a savage backlash from minorities in Afghanistan, like the Uzbeks, Tajiks and Hazaras.
In the end, Holbrooke became deeply pessimistic about his own project: “The best that can be hoped for is a bloody stalemate,” he said, privately. “Moreover, as far as I can tell, one constant about counter-insurgency: It does not work against an enemy with a safe sanctuary, and I do not believe we can get Pakistan to see its strategic interests as being symmetrical with ours.” The Pakistanis considered Holbrooke as one of their friends. India did not "agree" with his pro Paki views :D
Things have moved on little in the years since then. Kabul is shortly to begin its own outreach to the Taliban, but few believe it has real chance of success. The reason is simple: the Islamist insurgents believe they can wait out the United States, which will sooner or later cut loose the Afghan state. Even if the Taliban do accept a peace deal, moreover, it is far from clear if it draws in local commanders enriched by extortion and narcotics revenues, as well as new forces like the Islamic State.
Larger lessons for regional stability and peacekeeping, too, emerge from the book. From the work of Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam, we know the United States has struggled in wars from Korea to Vietnam, and in finding the numbers needed for counter-insurgency—a form of warfare that needs massive numbers of forces to prevent the insurgents from reoccupying territory. The situation today is bleak: ‘The Long War Journal’ estimates the Taliban hold 97 districts, up from 70 a year ago.
Afghanistan’s army was expected to fill the gap, but just doesn’t have the numbers. The Afghan National Army is authorised 195,000 personnel, and the Afghan National Police another 157,000—a total of 352,000—to guard a 652,864 square kilometre nation, much of it rugged mountains with extremely poor road connectivity. India, by contrast, uses an estimated 325,000 troops, backed up by some 85,000 police and 7,000 central police, to protect the 42,241 square kilometre Kashmir and Jammu divisions
The United States, Coll observes sharply, has ultimately failed to resolve fundamental questions. “Did they truly believe that Afghanistan’s independence and stability was more important than Pakistan’s stability”, he asks. “Why did they accept ISI’s support for the Taliban even when it directly undermined American interests and cost American lives? If they were to try to stop ISI’s covert action, what risks were they prepared to take?” The US needed someone to understand Afghanistan, its history and its culture. The Pakis offered their "expertise" and the US accepted the offer with tragic consequences !
Coll makes no simple prescriptions: there are none. Yet, he has flagged exactly the right questions. How much pressure ought be mounted on Pakistan to cut off the Taliban, and what might the consequences of military pressure, covert action or economic sanctions be? Should pressure fracture the Pakistani state, after all, the price of peace in Afghanistan might be a far larger crisis in nuclear-armed Pakistan.
Though ‘Directorate S’ does not address the Pakistan Army’s own motivations—and those of the ISI—there is a wealth of literature that explains why it will not easily abandon its sponsorship of jihad in Afghanistan or elsewhere. As both C. Christine Fair and Husain Haqqani have pointed out, the Army sees itself as the praetorian guard of an ideological project—as the vanguard of the Islamic state. The jihadist project is not simply a matter of projecting power, but also of the state’s fundamental values.
‘Directorate S’ deserves careful reading—not just by all those who wish to understand why the region is where it is, but Indian policy-makers. Now seeking to coerce Islamabad into reining in its sponsorship of jihadists both by diplomatic pressure and covert action, New Delhi needs to clearly understand the consequences of its actions, as well as the limits of coercion. Recents developments ( like the Pashtun Long March, the pressure to the Paki State from the "Pakistan Taliban" in Afghanistan, the failed attempt of the Pakis to fence the Durand Line, the opening of the Chahbar Port, the CPEC agreement ) may well alter the equation and cost for Pakistan !
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Armed And Not Yet ! Angry Immy Fans Vent - Via Social Media - Against The Second Mrs Khan :mrgreen:


PTI supporters are dissing Reham Khan for her tweet against “political Burqa”

Obnoxious comments following immense hate :roll:
PTI Followers are going bonkers over Reham’s tweet! Religious policing is seen at its peak.
One Example # 1 !
Abdul jabbar khan @A_J_KHAN0932

Bay hia bay sharam o nangi dance b kabi upload karo na. Sasti shorat hasel karny ki koshesh kar rahi ho but inshallah kamyab nahi hongay :lol:
5:35 PM - Feb 24, 2018
One Example # 2 !
❤️❤️M.,,.I.,,.KHAN ❤️❤️ @superkhan1234

Kanjre ki bache ho tum :roll:
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LAL TOPI'S TAKE ON TRUDEAU TRIP TO INDIA :mrgreen:

Zaid Hamid
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Trudeau family went to India.
4 members became hindus. One (onlee !) became a Muslim.... At that too, in a Hindu Temple :D
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China Stabs With Pakistan In The Back To Advance It's Own Interest At FATF :roll:

India congratulates China on its election as vice-president of FATF :D
New Delhi: India on Sunday congratulated China on its election as vice-president of the global money laundering watchdog, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), a development that comes on the back of news reports and speculation that a deal on giving China a larger role in the FATF had been reached, following which Beijing agreed to drop its objections to Pakistan being put under scrutiny by the body.
The Indian ministry of external affairs did not comment on whether a deal had been worked out at the FATF but analysts said given China’s track record of striking bargains for its vote in international organizations, it was possible that Beijing had done the same at the FATF plenary. That is—its election to the post of vice president at the FATF for dropping its objections to Pakistan being grey listed. International Diplomacy 101 Lesson Pakistan Should Not Ignore : There are no permanent friends, only permanent interest
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According to a report in the news website, theprint.com, the Indian delegation at the FATF struck a deal with the Chinese team that related to support for a greater FATF role for Beijing in the future. China then dropped its objections paving the way for Pakistan to be “grey listed”—a move that is expected to impact heavily on Pakistan’s economy given that Islamabad will find it difficult to raise funds from international sources. Pakistan "stabbed" by taller than mountain fliend !
On Sunday morning, Indian foreign ministry spokesman Raveesh Kumar tweeted : “Congratulations to China on its election as Vice President of Financial Action Task Force at the#FATF plenary mtg. on 23 February 2018. We remain hopeful that China would uphold & support the objectives & standards of FATF in a balanced, objective, impartial & holistic way(sic).”
Kumar did not confirm any quid pro quo but given that China has in the past gone out of its way protect Pakistani interests at the United Nations and at fora like the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group only added credence to reports of a deal having been struck.
China has also blocked India’s entry into the elite Nuclear Suppliers Group, despite appeals by India at the highest levels. Beijing has instead sought the establishment of criteria under which non signatories to the nuclear non proliferation treaty can be admitted—a move India sees as a ploy to get Pakistan admitted into the grouping as well.
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Falijee wrote:Pakistani Perfidy And Steve Coll's New Book

How Directorate S, ISI’s most diabolical branch, outsmarted US in Kabul, continued subverting India
Praveen Swami
24 February, 2018
Pedantic agenda-driven sophistry passing off as analysis (actually anal-ysis). At the outset one must question the basic assumption by bahadur Coll and endorsed by Swami: why is TSP's so called stability sacrosanct? No it is not sacrosanct one bit. The world will not cut lose were this TSP abomination be broken up into pieces and de-nuked. In fact, thats the only recipe for peace.

TSP's stability is only sacrosanct because of US's larger geo-political interests, and Coll knows why but is coy to pen it down, and Swami is too dumb to either realize why or is being politically correct lest he jeopardize a scholarship to the Hudson Institute or Brookings or wherever in US/UK.

Let see some choice quotes:

How much pressure ought be mounted on Pakistan to cut off the Taliban, and what might the consequences of military pressure, covert action or economic sanctions be? Should pressure fracture the Pakistani state, after all, the price of peace in Afghanistan might be a far larger crisis in nuclear-armed Pakistan.
Can the so called larger crisis that would befall TSP be any worse than the kind of savagery we are witnessing in Syria as a result of US/UK gang rape of Iraq? They didn't worry too much about the consequences of their actions did they? Why? Because the current melt down in the region suits US just fine. And the world is still functioning and except for lip service on civilian deaths on western media. So as Carollota Gall wrote, US is fighting the wrong war only because it needs to preserve TSP as a "good terrorist" entity.

Then this conclusion by Parveen Swami

‘Directorate S’ deserves careful reading—not just by all those who wish to understand why the region is where it is, but Indian policy-makers. Now seeking to coerce Islamabad into reining in its sponsorship of jihadists both by diplomatic pressure and covert action, New Delhi needs to clearly understand the consequences of its actions, as well as the limits of coercion.
Put another way, what he is saying is: Oh my God, see even Bhadaur Steve Coll has said mighty USA's pressure and coercion on TSP did not work, and so India must enter into p!ss talks with TSPA and talk about how to honorably hand over Kashmir because otherwise instability in a nuke armed TSP is not in India's interests as it aspires to become a global superpower of the 21st century.

If by any chance ModiJi loses 2019 elections, this above fraud will be the template based on which India under Pappu or some other opposition traitor will resume talks with TSP to resurrect MMS/Sonia 4-point formula.
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Falijee wrote:LAL TOPI'S TAKE ON TRUDEAU TRIP TO INDIA :mrgreen:

Zaid Hamid
‏Verified account @ZaidZamanHamid
4h4 hours ago

Trudeau family went to India.
4 members became hindus. One (onlee !) became a Muslim.... At that too, in a Hindu Temple :D
Here's Lal Topi at a Shiva Temple.

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Falijee wrote:Pakistan among 50 worst terror financing countries
ISLAMABAD: The latest Basel Anti-Money Laundering (AML) Index figures Pakistan among the 50 worst countries in terms of money laundering and ‘terrorist financing’.This study by a Swiss group, the Basel Institute on Governance, listing the worst countries with greater chances of money laundering and terror financing, ranks Pakistan at the 46th position among in the list 146 countries made part of study. Tax havens like some offshore jurisdictions and some other countries are not made part of this study because of non-availability of complete data about them.
The Basel AML Index 2017 has given Pakistan a score of 6.64. The worst score are Iran (8.6), Afghanistan (8.38), Guinea-Bissau (8.35), Tajikistan (8.28), Laos (8.28), Mozambique (8.08), Mali (7.97), Uganda (7.95), Cambodia (7.94). These countries top the list.
Thus Finland falls at the bottom of the list and ranked at position 146. Other countries with best controls and monitoring of financial transactions after Finland are; Lithuania (3.67), Estonia (3.83), Bulgaria (3.87), New Zealand (3.91), Slovenia (4.02), Denmark (3.05).
China their Ilon Blothel is at 51!!
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More pakis being paki news from the land of pakhanistan.

Man accuses FIA of torture
Sajid Masih of Shahdara was called by the Cyber Crime Wing at their Regal Chowk Office for allegedly uploading some blasphemous content on a Facebook group.
They asked me to abuse myself, :D but I refused to do so. Later, they asked me to sexually assault my cousin, :shock: but I remained silent and jumped from the building,” he said.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1391467/man-a ... of-torture
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More pakis being paki news from the land of pakhanistan.

Kasur child abuse case: 12 acquitted by ATC for lack of evidence
The acquitted people were charged with committing sodomy with a teenage boy and also filming the act, however, the prosecution failed to establish its case. :shock:
The prosecution had presented 16 witnesses but ATC-IV Judge Chaudhry Muhammad Ilyas did not find them convincing.
Ganda Singhwala police of Kasur had registered 29 cases against more than dozen suspects on charges of abducting and sexually assaulting 280 children of the same district. The prosecution had accused them of sexually assaulting young boys and filming the incidents to blackmail their victims.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1391473/12-ac ... use-charge
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More pakis being paki news from the land of pakhanistan.

Suspected rapist, murderer of six-year-old Lodhran girl arrested: police
The arrested suspect, the victim's paternal cousin, confessed to the crime, the DPO said, adding that the suspect told police he had killed the victim after raping her and had initially disposed off her body in a ditch before later throwing it into a pond.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1391643/suspe ... ted-police
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More pakis being paki news from the land of pakhanistan.

Lahore teenager accuses cleric of rape
Johar Town police on Saturday registered a first information report (FIR) against a cleric at a local madressah in Lahore on the complaint of a 16-year-old boy who alleged he was raped by the suspect a year ago.
he and a few other boys studying at the seminary had allegedly been abused multiple times by the cleric but had remained quiet out of fear.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1391643/suspe ... ted-police
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Hain !
Prosecution produced 29 witnesses, even submitted video of the rape, but Paki Mi-laard was naat convinced ?
Did this Mi-Laard also work in Lawhore high court and was acquiting Half-is-suar Saeed on terrorism charges too?
He’s used the same modus operendi - lack of evidence.
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Gagan wrote:Hain !
Did this Mi-Laard also work in Lawhore high court and was acquiting Half-is-suar Saeed on terrorism charges too?
The paki judge reports to a much higher authority than the constitution of al bakistan.
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So, by June if pak provides an acceptable plan to FATF then they will put them in grey list, and if pak fail to present a plan or the plan is not acceptable then it will be put in black list along with Iran and NKo.
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Falijee wrote:Pakistani Perfidy And Steve Coll's New Book

How Directorate S, ISI’s most diabolical branch, outsmarted US in Kabul, continued subverting India
Praveen Swami
24 February, 2018
Pedantic agenda-driven sophistry passing off as analysis (actually anal-ysis).
Pravin Swami and others of his ilk have an MKBhadrakumar-like agenda of making the Pakis and ISI seem extraordinarily powerful/competent/successful and show Indians and others being easily outsmarted by them. There is nothing in that article showing how either the US was outsmarted or how India was subverted. Any successes by the ISI have more to do with weak decision-making an indifference within the US and Indian establishments rather than any remarkable capabilities in Pakistan.

MKB in fact, using Khwaja Asif's tweet as basis wrote two disgusting articles on how Pakistan was immensely powerful and could not be bullied by India or the West anymore, only to land up with egg on his face a couple of days later when it was confirmed that Pakistan got a collective kick at the FATF. Shamess commies. :D
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China 'didn't want to lose face' by supporting Pakistan at terror funding watchdog meet: Report

NEW DELHI: China backed down from speaking for Pakistan at a recent international meeting on terror because it didn't want to "lose face by supporting a move that's doomed to fail", official unnamed sources told Dawn newspaper.

At first, so sure was Pakistan of China's support in dissuading the US and others from putting it on a terror funding watchlist that its foreign minister even tweeted saying he was "grateful to friends who helped". Days later, foreign minister Khawaja Asif and Pakistan had egg on their face, as reports came in that China remained neutral.

What happened?

Apparently, at first, China did oppose the move to put Pakistan on what's called a 'grey list' of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF). It joined Turkey and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) - represented by Saudi Arabia which wasn't a member in and of itself - in its support for Islamabad, said Dawn.

Soon after, though, the US pushed for an unprecedented second discussion on Pakistan, which was held on February 22, said the Dawn report. And by then, it convinced Saudi Arabia to accept a quid pro quo - 'We will give you full FATF membership if you drop your support for Pakistan'.

Saudi Arabia agreed. That left only two countries - China and Turkey - on Pakistan's side. A minimum of three FATF members are required to oppose a grey-listing.

That's when China informed Pakistan it was backing out of supporting it because it did not want to "lose face by supporting a move that's doomed to fail", official sources told Dawn.

"Pakistan appreciated the Chinese position and conveyed its gratitude to Turkey for continuing to support Islamabad against all odds," the source added.

Earlier this week, sources told TOI that another bargaining point Washington used in getting Beijing to drop its support for Pakistan was pledging support to get China into a top position in the FATF. In fact, India and the US both pledged support to China in return for China's neutrality on Pakistan, sources said to TOI.

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The real gain for us at FATF, is that Saudi dropped its opposition, despite Pak agreeing to send soldiers for the Yemen war. Erdogan will also come around. He has very few allies and those he has are closer to India than Pak.
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What is that top position at FATF means for china? what are the future implications for us if china is ascended?
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Pakistan's economic woes go from bad to worse ahead of polls: Bloomberg

KARACHI: Five months before the general elections PML-N’s government is struggling to fix the failing economy.

The finance managers attempted to bring discipline by currency devaluation in December and by raising taxes in October to curb rising imports. Despite these moves both current account and trade deficits are hitting records while foreign exchange reserves continue to fall, Bloomberg stated in a recent analysis of Pakistan’s state of economy.

Pakistan’s external sector indicators “signal a crisis and are going from bad to worse,” Uzair Younus, a South Asia director at Washington-based consultancy Albright Stonebridge Group LLC told Bloomberg.

“With elections around the corner, the government will simply kick the can down the road. The next government will face a balance of payments crisis and most likely go to the International Monetary Fund for yet another bailout,” he said.

The nation’s imports rose to a record last month despite the government increasing taxes on more than 700 items in October. With the tax on almost half those products reversed this month, the import bill remains under pressure.

Bloomberg reported that the economy is growing at 5.3 percent -- the fastest pace in a decade -- with import demand fueled by China’s financing of power plants and road projects under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

The current account deficit has continued to widen after a currency devaluation in December, putting further pressure on the rupee and pushing authorities to borrow more. The current account gap reached 4.7 percent of gross domestic product in the seven months ending January, compared with 3.5 percent a year earlier.

Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves have continued to decline after the last IMF loan program ended in September 2016. But now, according to the report, economists are predicting that Islamabad will need a bailout package later this year to shore up its finances.

The State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) unexpectedly increased its interest rate for the first time in more than four years last month. The SBP chief Tariq Bajwa said the regulator is “pre-empting signs of the economy overheating and trying to keep inflation under control.”

Pakistan’s financial risk in January rose the most since Bloomberg started compiling data in 2015. Pakistan’s benchmark stock index has dropped 18 percent since a peak in May last year with foreigners selling shares after the country was upgraded to emerging market status by MSCI Inc.

Political turmoil following the ousting of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in July spurred further drops, it said.

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So, It Is Either Black List Or Grey List For Pakiland Re: FATF :mrgreen:

Pakistan may find itself on FATF blacklist after June
Pakistan was first put on the FATF grey list in 2012 but was removed in 2015, after the FATF certified that Islamabad had done enough to counter terror financing.Now, Pakistan will have to follow the same process that it did in 2015, starting with an action plan that Islamabad is required to submit in May. If the FATF approves the action plan in June, it will make a formal announcement about placing Pakistan on the grey list. Should Islamabad fail to submit an action plan, or if the FATF does not accept it, the group can place Pakistan on its black list, along with ( august company of ! ) :mrgreen: North Korea and Iran.
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Plea for "Show-baaz's Help :mrgreen:

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#PatrasMasih still not allowed to meet lawyer. Without informing lawyer, Patras was brought to Court where he claimed he was tortured & medical examination was ordered & now lawyer has been orally informed medical is fine. Lawyer is filing app challenging medical board @CMShehbaz
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"Fans" Of Imran Khan Are Definitely Disappointed :mrgreen:

Imran Khan holds wedding reception in secrecy: report
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan held a reception regarding his third marriage with Bushra Mankera on Sunday.
According to a report by Neo News, the wedding reception was arranged in a manner to avoid media spotlight and the cricketer-turned-politician introduced his spiritual mentor-turned-wife to senior party aides. I "smell" an all male -affair with the guest of honour in a "shuttlecock attire " :twisted:
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Parliament attack case: Imran exempted from appearance in next hearing[*][/url]

[*] Official Time Off For Third Honeymoon :roll: [/color]
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Falijee wrote:China Stabs With Pakistan In The Back To Advance It's Own Interest At FATF :roll:

India congratulates China on its election as vice-president of FATF :D
New Delhi: India on Sunday congratulated China on its election as vice-president of the global money laundering watchdog, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), a development that comes on the back of news reports and speculation that a deal on giving China a larger role in the FATF had been reached, following which Beijing agreed to drop its objections to Pakistan being put under scrutiny by the body.
The Indian ministry of external affairs did not comment on whether a deal had been worked out at the FATF but analysts said given China’s track record of striking bargains for its vote in international organizations, it was possible that Beijing had done the same at the FATF plenary. That is—its election to the post of vice president at the FATF for dropping its objections to Pakistan being grey listed. International Diplomacy 101 Lesson Pakistan Should Not Ignore : There are no permanent friends, only permanent interest
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According to a report in the news website, theprint.com, the Indian delegation at the FATF struck a deal with the Chinese team that related to support for a greater FATF role for Beijing in the future. China then dropped its objections paving the way for Pakistan to be “grey listed”—a move that is expected to impact heavily on Pakistan’s economy given that Islamabad will find it difficult to raise funds from international sources. Pakistan "stabbed" by taller than mountain fliend !
On Sunday morning, Indian foreign ministry spokesman Raveesh Kumar tweeted : “Congratulations to China on its election as Vice President of Financial Action Task Force at the#FATF plenary mtg. on 23 February 2018. We remain hopeful that China would uphold & support the objectives & standards of FATF in a balanced, objective, impartial & holistic way(sic).”
Kumar did not confirm any quid pro quo but given that China has in the past gone out of its way protect Pakistani interests at the United Nations and at fora like the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group only added credence to reports of a deal having been struck.
China has also blocked India’s entry into the elite Nuclear Suppliers Group, despite appeals by India at the highest levels. Beijing has instead sought the establishment of criteria under which non signatories to the nuclear non proliferation treaty can be admitted—a move India sees as a ploy to get Pakistan admitted into the grouping as well.
China on its election as vice-president of FATF
This is the crux of the matter.

The hans have secured the vice presidency of the FATF because they dropped their objections to the pakis being placed on the list and India has voted for them.


Their han national interest rides roughshod over the interests of the pakis.

The hans will not return the favor to India on the NSG issue
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chetak wrote:The hans will not return the favor to India on the NSG issue
I don't think this deal was worked out with NSG in mind. That is a separate issue and most likely, the Indian strategy is to make NSG as irrelevant as possible as far as atomic energy programmes go.
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^^Nope, Chinese are all about not loosing Face. The chinese goose was cooked in this instance, when US weaned away the Saudis from supporting pakistan. With only two naysayers (Turkey and themselves) against required three to protect pakistan, they would have been seen as being 'defeated' if the motion was put to vote and hence they did the downhill skiing.
We have to keep in mind in any future military situation, the Chinese will attack and fight with us only when they are sure of defeating us a 100%.
Any fight where even there is a stand-off or where we also gain some of their territory will be construed as Chinese defeat or inability and this is simply unthinkable for them.
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Kashi wrote:
chetak wrote:The hans will not return the favor to India on the NSG issue
I don't think this deal was worked out with NSG in mind. That is a separate issue and most likely, the Indian strategy is to make NSG as irrelevant as possible as far as atomic energy programmes go.
I understand that but I was just remarking that for the hans, national interest is ALWAYS supreme but it has not always been so for India.

Look at the opportunities galore that we have wantonly and callously missed in the maldives, beediland, nepal and srilanka.

The malicious role of the Indian commies in nepal and some other "religious" organizations in our srilankan and beediland sojourns in stymying the Indian national interest has yet to be exposed.
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It Is Not In "Deep State's Interest" To Accept The "Olive Branch" From India :D

Why friendly ties with India will be a boon for Pakistan
By Rupa Subramanya & Aarti Tikoo Singh
Recently, in a television interview, Prime Minister Narendra Modi rhetorically invited Pakistan and its people to join with him and the Indian people in fighting poverty and deprivation on both sides of the border. Pakistan’s response? To ratchet up cross border terrorism through their terrorist proxies. In the most recent such incident, Jaish-E-Mohammed, a Pakistan terrorist proxy, attacked an army camp and civilian quarters in Jammu, killing five soldiers and one civilian.
Clearly, in light of these events, Modi is being too generous. Recall, that while India bestowed Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status on Pakistan under the aegis of the World Trade Organization (WTO), Pakistan has to date failed to reciprocate. Meanwhile, the Bollywood film industry in India has provided enormous opportunities for actors and artists from Pakistan, while the reverse has not been true. IMO, there are no opportunities in Pakiland for Indian Industry people, because there is no "industry" there to speak of :mrgreen:
Also, India’s Minister of External Affairs, Sushma Swaraj, even at the height of deteriorating bilateral relations in the last three years has continued to routinely grant medical visas to Pakistanis in need. Most importantly, India continues to honour the Indus Water Treaty, a World Bank brokered agreement for water sharing across the border, which disproportionately benefits Pakistan. These things are seen as "entitlements and rights" by Pakistan. The issuance of visa should stop forthwith !
It’s very clear that India has made a huge effort to reach out to Pakistan and work to improve the bilateral relationship. The economic relationship is already tilted in Pakistan’s favour, despite little or no reciprocity from their side.
While Modi’s appeal to the Pakistani people to join him in the work of development thus appears naive or premature at best, it is true that this is a propitious moment to shift the focus towards the state of Pakistan’s economy. This is especially important given the marked shift in the US position, as exemplified by President Donald Trump’s New Year tweet lashing out at Pakistan’s non-cooperation in fighting terrorism having received billions of dollars in US aid.
What is more, despite receiving injections of US financial support, the Pakistan economy seems to lurch from crisis to crisis. Last December, after the country’s currency lost 5 percent of its value in three days, it appeared that Pakistan might yet again need to seek a bailout package from the International Monetary Fund (IMF). On this occasion, Pakistani officials did not have to go to Washington hat in hand, but as recently as 2013, the country received a $6.6 billion loan from the IMF. It’s not just the currency which has been plunging: Pakistan’s exports have been in decline for three years, and the country is running a current account deficit which is 4 percent of gross domestic product, high by any standard.
In the end, it is the people of Pakistan who will benefit from normalizing relations with India, and it is they who ultimately will need to see the gains to be reaped. But until that day comes, Prime Minister Modi ought to be much more circumspect about offers of unreciprocated friendship to Pakistan. We’ve seen how those are answered. In the end, IMO, it boils down to the matter of the H&D and the Paki quest for an = = with India, which is not going to happen !!!
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Today in Italy: Pakistani father kills his daughter b'coz she reported his mistreatment to police. He simulated a car accident and was fleeing to #Pakistan but was caught.
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http://m.cronachemaceratesi.it/2018/02/ ... e/1071169/

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The Optics For Imran Are Not Good According To This Paki Ayesha !

Marriage politics
Umber Khairi
Dear All, :roll:
I know that most mature and dignified commentators have taken the position that we really should not comment on Imran Khan’s recent marriage, and have argued that his personal life is private and separate from his public life. But I am not one of those commentators.Imran Khan’s recent marriages (two in three years) and the way in which he and his party (PTI) have managed the issue of announcing these unions reflects on both their politics and their relationship with the truth.It is almost uncanny that in both cases, there was prevarication about the actual date of the marriage. In the case of Reham Khan it was thought that they had married in late October 2014: Imran’s ex-wife Jemima Khan had mentioned the match on social media, and then Imran Khan had seemed to confirm it to reporters at Heathrow airport, yet he and his party then proceeded to evade questions about it and to even deny the marriage. Then in January 2015 with pictures of what seemed to be more photoshoot than wedding, news of the marriage was announced by the PTI. Who is tying the knot, Imran or the PTI Party :mrgreen:
This pretence about the wedding date carried on for two years but recently ex-wife Reham Khan publicly stated that the couple had actually been married on October 31 but she had been instructed not to reveal this and the official spiel would be that they married on January 6, 2014. Reham is safely ensconced in Londonistan, so she is physically safe from the PTI Armed Aam Abduls :mrgreen:
What was the reason for the prevarication? It was widely believed to be due to two factors: one that October 31 had been Muharram 7 on the Islamic calendar and that announcing the happy event in the month of religious mourning would not go down well with the electorate. The second was that it was just weeks before the first anniversary of the terrorist attack on the Army Public School in Peshawar in which more than 140 people — students and staff — had been killed, and again a wedding announcement that is cause for celebration might not go down well with the electorate especially those in KP where Khan’s party was in government. Hence the denials, a late announcement and a photo shoot. Optics are important to the Kaptaan and his PTI party ! Forget about his "searing" a child out of wedlock . Those were the pre - Islamic piety days :mrgreen:
Almost exactly the same pattern was repeated in the case of Khan’s recent marriage to the ex-wife of a PML-N politician. A newspaper report about the wedding (the nikkah) was denied. Repeatedly. And the PTI supporters became quite abusive in their denials. The one thing Khan did concede however was that he had sent a proposal to the lady, and she had given him ‘spiritual and religious guidance’ in the past. The report by Umer Cheema in The News had claimed the nikkah took place on January 1, 2018. After many denials and recriminations the PTI then announced the marriage along with photographs on February 18. Again the matter of the actual date of the ceremony was glossed over, and the prevarication continued. Why all this was necessary is unclear. The Pirni has also come up with some predictions of her own : (a) That Imran will be the Kaptaan of Pakistan, come next general election (b) And he is going to be a father of two brand new kids :mrgreen:
Why should this matter? Don’t all public figures, especially male politicians, routinely lie about their private lives? They generally do but what is disturbing in this case is: a) the untruths and b) the lack of planning and impetuousness it reveals. If a politician and his party are so concerned about the timing of his nuptials in a public opinion context, then why not plan these accordingly? At some point the public might well think all the spin is unnecessary and even an insult to their intelligence.The game goes on: the politicians continue to deny bank accounts, marriages and properties. And deny… and deny and deny. Gentlemen, thou all doth protest too much… IMO, all this tamasha indicates that it is the PTI Party that is getting married and not Imran. The Pirni is being used by Immy for political purposes :mrgreen:


Best wishes :roll:
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Peregrine wrote:Democracy on steady decline in Pakistan: Economist Intelligence Unit

ISLAMABAD: The fragile democracy is on a steady retreat in Pakistan despite the fact that the political government is nearing the completion of its term, says a fresh democracy index released by one of the most reputed publications in the world.

According to 10th edition of The Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Index, Pakistan has witnessed a consistent decline in democratic health for the last three years as the country’s score kept declining after 2014 when incidentally a sit-in was staged outside Pakistani Parliament for over four months.

The reputed British publication ranked 167 countries based on their score on a scale of 0 to 10 where 10 represents full democracy and 0 represents authoritarian regime. Pakistan which scored 4.26 last year is classified as hybrid democracy in the index. The Economist index comprises 60 indicators across five broad categories—electoral process and pluralism, functioning of government, political participation, democratic political culture and civil liberties.

After 2013 elections, Pakistan obtained 4.64 but the democracy score started declining after 2014. In 2015, the score dropped to 4.40 followed by a further decline in 2016 to 4.33. Last year, witnessed the lowest score for Pakistan with 4.26 which was only better than 2006 under the dictatorship of General (retd) Pervez Musharraf when the country obtained 3.92 scores.

Within Pakistan, political observers are also complaining that the space for democratic government is shrinking with increasingly assertive establishment and judiciary. The latest verdict by the Supreme Court of Pakistan barring former prime minister Nawaz Sharif from heading his ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz is also being considered a blow to democracy.

“The immediate implications may centre on the political future of one individual, but the judgment has the potential to be hugely disruptive to the democratic process itself,” writes a daily newspaper in its editorial on Friday.

Sharif, who was ousted in July last year through the Supreme Court verdict in the Panama Paper case, continuously complains of conspiracy against the democratic rule. Sharif, a three-time prime minister says efforts are being made to exclude him and his family from Pakistani politics in the guise of corruption cases. Sharif and his family are currently facing three corruption references in an accountability court where they have to appear almost on a daily basis.

He claims that anti-democratic forces are not willing to accept Parliament's supremacy even after the restoration of “democracy” in 2008. Soon after his decisive victory in 2013 elections, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had to face a massive movement launched jointly by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan and Pakistan Awami Tehrik (PAT) leader Allama Tahirul Qadri which culminated at 126-day sit-in at D-Chowk, demanding Prime Minister’s resignation.

Sharif’s close aides claimed that the move was supported by anti-democratic elements who were not happy with an assertive political government. The sit-in only ended after the APS terror attack in Peshawar which claimed lives of 132 schoolchildren. But the anti-Sharif movement continued after the sit-in and he had to fight a battle in the Supreme Court to prove that the 2013 vote was not rigged. The trial of former military ruler General (retd) Musharraf also became a point of contention. Finally the issue was resolved when Musharraf was allowed to leave the country.

After the emergence of Panama Papers in April 2015, the PTI again launched a move to overthrow Nawaz Sharif whose offshore companies were mentioned in the leaked papers. The case ended up in the Supreme Court which announced its verdict in July 2017. Sharif was disqualified by the apex court for not declaring his receivable salary in a Dubai based company Capital FZE, owned by his son. The verdict was hailed as landmark by Imran Khan and other opposition parties but the ruling party complained that a democratic prime minister has been shown the door through a “judicial coup”. A Joint Investigation Team (JIT) formed by the apex court to probe allegations of corruption against Nawaz Sharif was also criticised for political victimisation.

Even before the Sharif disqualification, democratic government did not have a smooth sailing as it had to sacrifice its minister for information over Dawn NewsLeak which refers to a story published in a newspaper. A strong notice was taken of the publication of the story and under immense pressure PML-N had to sack its minister Pervaiz Rashid for his “failure” to stop publication of the story. Adviser to Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi was also sacked for his alleged role in Dawn NewsLeak. Earlier, another Senator Mushahidullah Khan was also dismissed by Sharif for his controversial interview.

The Economist Intelligence Unit’s index of democracy

INDIAN REPUBLIC : Flawed Democracy : No. 35 - OVERALL SCORE : 7.68

TERRORISTAN : Authoritarian regimes : No 113 - OVERALL SCORE : 3.92

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You have erroneously linked the Economist / Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) 2007 Democracy Index report.

I have taken the liberty of linking the EIU 2017 Democracy Index report

Democracy Index 2017 : Free speech under attack
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:wink: Is a FATFa a FATWA issued by the FATF :?:
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arun wrote:You have erroneously linked the Economist / Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) 2007 Democracy Index report.

I have taken the liberty of linking the EIU 2017 Democracy Index report

Democracy Index 2017 : Free speech under attack
arun Ji :
Apologies & Many Thanks Indeed. Here are the 2017 Rankings and Scores :

Country.....Rank… Overall score…..Electoral……Functioning of…Political……....Political…Civil
..........................................Process &….government……participation..Culture...Liberties
..........................................pluralism

India……....042………7.23……….......9.17………….6.79……………....7.22…………....5.63……..7.35

Pakistan....110……..4.26………......6.50…………..5.36……………....2.22…………....2.50……..4.71
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Falijee wrote:Tarek Fatah
‏Verified account @TarekFatah
14h14 hours ago

Today in Italy: Pakistani father kills his daughter b'coz she reported his mistreatment to police. He simulated a car accident and was fleeing to #Pakistan but was caught.
https://www.nuovosud.it/71267-fattinoti ... e-recanati

http://m.cronachemaceratesi.it/2018/02/ ... e/1071169/

https://www.blitzquotidiano.it/cronaca- ... ssion=true

http://m.ilgiornale.it/news/2018/02/25/ ... e/1498351/

Sorry, English Translation unavailable !!!

Will Paki Media report this :twisted:

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Like the photu with two Italian "POLIZIA" cops and a Bakistani "FBI" Guy. yah Allah has his own ways....
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Bart S wrote:
Pravin Swami and others of his ilk have an MKBhadrakumar-like agenda of making the Pakis and ISI seem extraordinarily powerful/competent/successful and show Indians and others being easily outsmarted by them. There is nothing in that article showing how either the US was outsmarted or how India was subverted. Any successes by the ISI have more to do with weak decision-making an indifference within the US and Indian establishments rather than any remarkable capabilities in Pakistan.

MKB in fact, using Khwaja Asif's tweet as basis wrote two disgusting articles on how Pakistan was immensely powerful and could not be bullied by India or the West anymore, only to land up with egg on his face a couple of days later when it was confirmed that Pakistan got a collective kick at the FATF. Shamess commies. :D
I couldn't read beyond a few sentences of MKB's balderdash. But Praveen Swami, MKB etc represent a huge body of influential opinion in India that India India must not win outright against TSP either through our own military means or trough pressure from US. In their perverted minds, essentially US/UK scripted, is that a collapse of TSP will mean the victory and rise of "Hindu fascism" in the subcontinent and that cannot be allowed. TSP is needed to preserve the Hindu/Muslim balance in the subcontinent from US empire's interests PoV. Anyway, India's internal travails are not the topic of this thread, but wanted to point out that frauds like Praveen Swami and Ajai Shukla who garner quite a bit of respect both within India and outside represent this abominable thought process.
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Peregrine wrote:Apologies & Many Thanks Indeed.
Peregrineji, No apologies are warranted. Cheers.
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CPEC's Gwadar: A bane or boon for Pakistan?

BALOCHISTAN [PAKISTAN]: China's decision to invest in the Gwadar Port in particular, and the USD 60 billion China-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor in the larger context, should not been seen only in economic terms, as a certain section of people harbour fears of Pakistan being colonised by the Chinese.

Officials like, Captain Gul Mohammed, the head of Marine Operations at Gwadar Port, however, project a brighter picture, believing that the port will be South Asia's 'Dubai’

Sindh Province Governor, Muhammed Zubair, who has been one of the key architects behind the port's development, suggests that China's motives behind making the CPEC, has a larger meaning and purpose.

"When you become a superpower and you are sitting on tons and tons of cash, what do you do with that? You have to go global," Zubair , was quoted by The Telegraph, as saying.

"So, I would not question that they have far more objectives than a win-win for China and Pakistan in economic terms. They want to compete with the United States. This gives them the security leverage that they desperately need," he adds.

The Telegraph report further quotes Pakistani officials, as saying that the deal with China is Pakistan's way of actually insurance against a hostile India, and a way of finally breaking free of an increasingly acrimonious relationship with the United States.

"And, it (Gwadar) is widely seen as the jewel in China's "string of pearls" - a chain of strategic maritime bases in countries, including Myanmar and Sri Lanka, that are meant to guard strategic shipping lanes across the Indian Ocean," the report said.

China has big plans for Gwadar Port as Chinese contractors will also build a rail link, Pakistan's largest airport, and a new road to Afghanistan. Desalination plants are planned to support a new desert city expected to grow to 1.7 million people by 2050.

The passage won't be easy as it seems, the harsh climate is not the only thing builders here must contend with. Pakistan's military has fought an on-off struggle with insurgents leading a separatist movement in Balochistan for decades.

"The dusty towns that dot the desert are patrolled by heavily-armed Pakistani troops in pickup trucks mounted with machine guns and anti-IED jamming devices," the report mentions.

"Beijing's presence here and across much of Pakistan, is palpable," the report further mentions.

The friendship of China and Pakistan, two long-standing allies, is concerning ordinary Pakistanis.

"It's obvious that when you are the borrower you're in a weaker position than the lender," said one student at a Karachi University. "We were colonised by the British for centuries. Now, people are wondering if we are about to be colonised by the Chinese too."

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