Terroristan - 4th Jan 2018

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Postby Falijee » 01 Mar 2018 06:26

DISSIDENT TAHA SIDDIQUI SPEAKS FROM SELF IMPOSED EXILE !
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While General Bajwa meets Iranian air force chief, his predecessor General Raheel Sharif is in Saudi Arabia helping bomb civilians in Yemen just because they are Iranian-backed Shiites https://www.geo.tv/latest/183776-genera ... orce-chief … #DoubleGamesOfGHQ

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PAKI DOUBLE GAME . NO WONDER THE IRANIS ARE PISSED OFF :mrgreen:

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Postby anupmisra » 01 Mar 2018 07:45

From the land that guarantees freedom to practice all religions,

IHC seeks travel details of 6,001 persons who became Qadianis

An Islamabad High Court (IHC) bench Tuesday directed the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) to provide travel details of 6,001 persons who changed their religious status from Muslim to Qadiani.
Previously, Nadra on the orders of the IHC had told the court that 10,205 persons changed their religious status from Muslim to Qadiani.
The bench then directed Nadra to provide details that how many of them applied and got passports after change of their religion. Nadra told the court that 6,001 such persons applied and got passports.
The court observed that there are several youths who changed their religious status to get foreign citizenship.
Professor Dr Sahibzada Sajidur Rehman, Member Council of Islamic Ideology (CII), as amicus curiae, submitted before the court that an Islamic state could introduce legislation to differentiate between Muslim and non-Muslim on the basis of collective wisdom.


Bakistan ka matlab qya? Karma is a she-dog!

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/286416 ... e-qadianis

By the way, before anyone sheds a tear for the qadianis, here's their role in rape and pillage of Kashmir in 1947-48.

The Furqan Battallion: The historical role of Ahmadiyya community as Pakistan army’s Jihadist proxy in Kashmir

Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad, the second Head of the Ahmadiyya community propelled the formation of an all-Ahmadi volunteer militant force called Furqan Battalion that fought on the Kashmir front in 1948 as a non-State proxy of Pakistan army.
Formed in June 1948[2] at the direction of Ahmadiyya leader Mirza Mahmood, at the request of Pakistan government, the Furqan Force, along with the Pashtun Lashkar of Waziristan, was amongst the first non-State actors used by Pakistani State for Jihadist activities.
In addition to its troops being drawn from the Ahmadiyya population, the expenses of maintaining the unit were also paid by that community.


Alert: this is a paki link. https://lubpak.com/archives/317821

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Postby Guddu » 01 Mar 2018 07:53

anupmisra wrote:Baki TSPA boot licking continues.

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Does the paki chief salute paki PM, have not seen him saluting NS, all pictures with NS were with short danda.

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Postby nandakumar » 01 Mar 2018 10:39

Falijee wrote:German Chief Executive Of PIA "Stole" Plane And Flew It To Germany In Revenge For Unpaid Salary :twisted:

PIA plane taken to Germany caused heavy liabilities
Pakistan Observer

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A PIA A-130 aircraft, stolen from airline headquarters office in Karachi, now parked at a German airport has incurred heavy liabilities which authorities here find difficult to settle.It was flown to Germany by the then airline chief executive complaining his salaries had remained unpaid, and therefore he flew the aircraft to his country as compensation and initially sold to a museum for 5,000 US dollars. Does he have "clear title" on the plane :roll:
The question is how could civil aviation authorities whose control tower takes care of Pakistani air space, allowed it to take off, and on what grounds.Anything is possible in Pakistan :mrgreen:
The principle poser here is can a chief executive fly an aircraft. He must have pilot license, but even then he needed permission from authorities, particularly from airport control tower to take off or even taxi to runway. If that permission was given has enquiry been ordered against CAA officials or PIA customer service and maintenance officials. Nothing official is being given by airline management or its pubic relations department about the sordid episode. Newspaper "thinking out loud " :roll:
Now the aircraft bearing Pakistani registration number is reportedly parked at one of the German airports. Its parking fee for such a long period has ballooned to beyond payment capacity of PIA which itself is suffering from lack of resources. The so-called demurrage charges :D
The question is how long this could be tolerated, and when will PIA aircraft, a national asset, will be able to be brought back. Stayed tuned . Chapter 2 of this "sordid episode" coming soon :mrgreen:


Laws in many countries permit a lien on company assets for non payment of wages. While in some places it is determined by the principle 'first-in' against a primary lien holder in India wage claims rank in priority to other creditors.

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Postby chetak » 01 Mar 2018 10:49

nandakumar wrote:
Falijee wrote:German Chief Executive Of PIA "Stole" Plane And Flew It To Germany In Revenge For Unpaid Salary :twisted:

PIA plane taken to Germany caused heavy liabilities
Pakistan Observer

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Laws in many countries permit a lien on company assets for non payment of wages. While in some places it is determined by the principle 'first-in' against a primary lien holder in India wage claims rank in priority to other creditors.


He is obviously a pilot.

He may have used the "innocent" and routine excuse of some "maintenance" test flight to legitimately get airborne. Lots of executive pilots fly once in a while to keep their license current so that they are able to renew it as and when its due for renewal.

Once airborne, the flight plan may have been changed to suit the destination.

and thereafter, off he went to germany.

The pakis must really be envious of this guy, it's a play right out of their own taqiya, malsi playbook.

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Postby Peregrine » 01 Mar 2018 15:16

anupmisra wrote:
Peregrine wrote:X Posted on the P E S W Thread

Government eyes $61 billion export revenue in next five years

If the country achieves only 10 percent annual growth in exports the revenue could go up to $36.21 billion over the next five years. If exports grow 15 percent a year the foreign revenue could increase to $47.28 billion. But, with 20 percent annual growth, Pakistan’s exports could touch $61.03 billion over the next five years.
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Sir Ji : Stop Insulting Dubai! If Wishes were Green Tamarind all Terroristanis would have the Mother of Sore Throats!
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Postby Peregrine » 01 Mar 2018 15:50

Imran’s Bani Gala house: ‘Phoney’ permission that built a mansion
ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court (SC) was informed on Wednesday that the No Objection Certificate (NOC) submitted by the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan regarding his Banigala residence construction was fake and had never been issued by the authority concerned.
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Postby Falijee » 01 Mar 2018 17:00

Maulana Abdul Aziz Of Lal Masjid Should Also Be Put On The Global Terrorist List !

Maulana Abdul Aziz keeps ‘martyr’ Bin Laden library, vows worldwide Sharia

SLAMABAD: Maulana Mohammad Abdul Aziz is considered one of the most dangerous, yet influential, men in Pakistan.And while his movements in the country are restricted by the government, the 57-year-old former head cleric of Islamabad’s oldest mosque – Lal Masjid, better known as the Red Mosque – is still allowed to inspire new generations with his radical rhetoric.
We don’t see Pakistan anymore our destination, we will come out as a force to establish Islamic rule over the entire world,” Aziz told Fox News last week in a telephone interview, from his Islamabad compound known as Jamia Hafsa, a seminary school that boasts around 1,500 girls and 2,000 boys. “You will see the change within 10 years – if you stay alive.” IMO, he has solid Saudi funding and /or benefactors for his views. And "Deep State" dare not touch him . His "masjid" is in the same area as Deep State HQ !
In the government’s endeavour to root out terrorism, Aziz is banned from the mosque – which technically belongs to the state. But he and his wife continue to oversee teachings just a few miles away. “We want Sharia within our country and I, along with my pupils, will go to any extent to implement Sharia – even at the cost of waging a war against the country coerced government,” he declared. As compared to Hafiz Suar, he keeps a low profile :D
Aziz has long been known for his inflammatory sermons, anti-American ideology, for sparking global jihadist movements and supporting designated terrorist groups. In 2014, he even named his school’s library the “Martyr Usama Bin Laden Library” in honour of the former al Qaeda leader and 911 financier. “Usama had good relations with my late father, thus we don’t support the American narrative, declaring him a terrorist,” Aziz said. “He did jihad, to implement Sharia around the world. So, for us, he is an Islamist warrior. We title our library after his name with audacity.”
Soon after the 2015 San Bernardino massacre, in which female assailant and ISIS supporter Tashfeen Malik and her American husband, Syed Rizwan Farouk, slaughtered 14 of his co-workers, reports emerged that the Pakistani-born, Saudi Arabia-raised woman had been a Red Mosque student under Aziz. :shock:
Arabia-raised woman had been a Red Mosque student under Aziz.“I never met with her,” Aziz claimed, before eventually acknowledging that they may have had an encounter as he has “many female followers”. But if so, she would have been fully veiled, he said. “The United States is failing attempts to establish my link with that shooting.”
Under Aziz’s guidance at the Red Mosque in July 2007, scores of his baton-brandishing male and female students took to the streets outside. Video stores considered immoral were shuttered. Chinese women were abducted from a massage parlour they deemed to be a “brothel”, threats were made to throw acid in the face of female university students nearby, and a government ministry building was torched.
Tensions escalated between the militant mosque devotees and Pakistani Army into a bloody 10-day standoff that left over 100 people dead, including Aziz’s brother, mother and son. Aziz attempted to evade arrest by fleeing the chaotic scene disguised in a burka.“I taught my students to stand against the corrupt system immobilising the country.Pakistan has inherited the British system, solely non-believers,” Aziz said of the incident. “I attempted to escape in a long veil with the consent of my martyred brother Abdul during the operation, and secondly, Islam supports this act to conceal oneself in a state of emergency.”
The Pakistani government has – particularly in the wake of the 2014 Peshawar school slaughter – purported to squash terror-inspiring voices like Aziz. And many Pakistanis have expressed their staunch opposition to the extremist preacher. Those actions against him come at a cost.
And according to Smith, Aziz still has significant influence.“It is helpful to separate the ‘bad guys’ into two categories. There are those like the Haqqani Network that are actively and operationally involved in conducting terrorist targeting Afghanistan and US personnel and interests there; and then there are those espousing violent extremist ideologies, sowing the seeds of hatred and religious fundamentalism across Pakistani society,” Smith added.
“Aziz very much falls into the latter camp and within the spectrum of radical Pakistani preachers remains a very prominent figure. While the first group poses the most immediate threat to the US and Afghanistan, it’s arguably the latter group that’s doing the most long-term damage in the all-important war of ideas.” Aziz is ideologically more dangerous in the long term !

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Postby Falijee » 01 Mar 2018 17:09

Pakistani couple besieged in Syria rescued after 7 years :roll:

The couple hails from Gujrat district of Punjab and was living in Syria from 1973


Brandishing Paki Identity Cards and asking for World Mercy What were these (most likely illegal ) Pakis doing in Syria in the first place . The "Gujrat District Of Pakjab" is a hotbed of illegal emigration. Most of those dead in the recently Libyan boat tragedy "hailed" from that region.:evil:


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Postby sudhan » 01 Mar 2018 17:30

Falijee wrote:German Chief Executive Of PIA "Stole" Plane And Flew It To Germany In Revenge For Unpaid Salary :twisted:

PIA plane taken to Germany caused heavy liabilities
Pakistan Observer

Karachi
A PIA A-130 aircraft, stolen from airline headquarters office in Karachi, now parked at a German airport has incurred heavy liabilities which authorities here find difficult to settle.


I guess the reporter meant A310.. This guy flew a wide body aircraft out of Pak, and just to spite his employers sold it for 5000 dollars??

Thats a kick to a langot-less mush..

The gems we got in response to this incident, from various news sources:

Confirming that the plane had gone missing, the minister said: “We have also formed a committee to probe the matter but it has not found any clue so far.”

When contacted, PIA spokesman Mashhood Tajwar told Dawn it was not a Boeing plane rather Airbus-A-310. “It’s not missing. It’s in Germany,” he remarked.


Sardar Mehtab further revealed that PIA had to pay as much as $200,000 in parking fee for the aircraft in Germany.


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Falijee wrote:Pakistani couple besieged in Syria rescued after 7 years :roll:

The couple hails from Gujrat district of Punjab and was living in Syria from 1973


If they have been living in Syria since 1973, how did they get those brand new spanking paki IDs? Hain?

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Postby anupmisra » 01 Mar 2018 19:45

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Sardar Mehtab further revealed that PIA had to pay as much as $200,000 in parking fee for the aircraft in Germany.
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So, the pakis have to pay a one time landing and daily parking fee on top of the dry lease rent which they are still liable for. There is a god.

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Postby anupmisra » 01 Mar 2018 19:50

Pakis are still trying to be relevant, after all these kicks in their collective backsides.

Pakistan ready for one-on-one mediation with Taliban, says Asif

Pakistan is ready for one-on-one talks with the Afghan Taliban
Pakistan will not make the same mistakes now and keep American interests above its own
Pakistan is currently going through an period of uncertainty
"The US can have an interest in Pak India discussions, but before that it should create some balance in its South Asia policy." :rotfl:


So, it is true. Bakis are at best tactical. Strategic thinking is non-existent. BTW...what about mediating with the tellibunnies in their own territory?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1392515/pakis ... -says-asif

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Postby anupmisra » 01 Mar 2018 19:56

Finally, pakhanistan may get the recognition it deserves.

Lacoste is replacing their [b]iconic crocodile with 10 endangered species[/b]

The brand has joined forces with the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) for the SOS – Save Our Species program. Instead of the crocodile, we'll be seeing 10 endangered species in the same style.


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Lacoste, should add an eleventh species, soon to be extinct.

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Postby SSridhar » 01 Mar 2018 20:14

anupmisra wrote:Bakis are at best tactical. Strategic thinking is non-existent.

I wonder if even their (in)famous tactical brilliance is deserting them nowadays as they get squeezed from all sides.

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Postby Falijee » 01 Mar 2018 23:49

Indian Envoy Called To Paki Foreign Office ( FO ) - AGAIN :mrgreen:

Pakistan summons diplomat as Indian ceasefire violation claims another life at LoC :roll:

Pakistan should allow India to open a "sub office" in their FO. India should staff that "office" with THREE low -level "chaprassis"- 24/7- who are available on rotational duty to accept future protests. :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 02 Mar 2018 01:05

Pakis Queuing Up For Haj !

87,813 pilgrims selected in balloting on half of Hajj quota for 2018

SLAMABAD – Ministry of Religious Affairs and Interfaith Harmony on Thursday selected 87,813 lucky applicants in balloting on 50 percent quota of Haj 2018 under government scheme by holding a computerized draw.
This year record-breaking Haj applications were received as 374,829 people submitted applications for the Government Haj scheme 2018. The ministry received the highest number of applications from Karachi, totaling 81,985. It was followed by Lahore with 72,483, while Islamabad stood third with 67,896. Some obviously fall in the category of " Billi chuhah kha kar Hajj ko chali" . This year much was made of Paki Transgenders "looking forward" to their chance for hajj. Hope there is no objection from the Mullah Brigade to this concession to the officially approved third sex :mrgreen:
Saudi authorities have allocated provisional quota of 179,210 pilgrims to Pakistan for this year. Under the policy, the government is to select 120,000 pilgrims, while remaining will be allocated to private tour operators. The Saudis are leery of Paki pilgrims coming for hajj, overstaying their visit and indulging in all sorts of Anti Malsic behaviour :mrgreen:

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Postby Peregrine » 02 Mar 2018 01:24

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Foreign exchange: SBP's reserves plunge $358 Million, stand at $12.35 Billion

KARACHI: Foreign exchange reserves held by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) continued to remain under pressure, decreasing 2.82% on a weekly basis, according to data released by the central bank on Thursday.

The fall marks the 11th successive week of decline, raising concerns over Pakistan’s ability to meet future payment obligations and a bulging current account deficit.

On February 23, foreign currency reserves held by the central bank were recorded at $12,345.6 million, down $358 million or 2.82% compared to $12,703.7 million in the previous week.

The decrease in reserves was attributed to external debt servicing and other official payments.

Overall, liquid foreign reserves held by the country, including net reserves held by banks other than the SBP, stood at $18,413.3 million. Net reserves held by banks amounted to $6,067.7 million.

Foreign exchange: SBP’s reserves continue to dip, reach $12.7b

Pakistan raised $2.5 billion in November 2017 by floating dollar-denominated sovereign bonds in the international market in a bid to shore up official reserves.

A few months ago, foreign currency reserves surged due to official inflows including $622 million from the Asian Development Bank (ADB) and $106 million from the World Bank. I.O.W ADDITIONAL LOANS of US$728 Millions. Another Day Another Loan! :rotfl:

Earlier, the SBP received $350 million under the Coalition Support Fund (CSF) and made payments of $62 million for external debt servicing.

In January, the SBP made a $500-million loan repayment to the State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE), China.

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Pakistani worker kills boss over sexual harassment in Dubai

A Pakistani worker has been sent to jail for seven years in Dubai after he stabbed his boss to death for sexually harassing him.

The 22-year-old convict, who killed his fellow citizen, told the police that the victim sexually abused him for a year. He worked under the victim’s supervision.

The convict got angry and his supervisor’s alleged attempt to sexually harass provoked him to stab him.
However he denied an intended murder charge saying: “He attacked me first and I was defending myself.”

The victim called him around 11pm on the incident day.

The court has ordered a deportation after completion of jail term.

He told the investigation team: “I was walking near the accommodation in Al Quoz when the victim called me. He wanted me to meet him in the parking lot, expressing his sexual desires towards me. As I turned his invitation down, he said no matter what I did I should still see him in the accommodation. He also insulted and threatened to hurt me.”

The convict also told the prosecutor: “On my way, I could not help being angry and stopped at a supermarket and bought a knife.”

The victim allegedly slapped him in the car parking area and before he could do what he had told before, the offender stabbed him several times.

The victim managed to move some steps and then collapsed. The accused apoligised to the victim after he collapsed. He also cried sitting next to the victim.

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Postby Peregrine » 02 Mar 2018 03:03

Financial Action Task Force correctly faults Pakistan

What does an ostrich do when it feels threatened? It hides its head underground! The ostrich feels that by not looking at it, the threat will go away.

It was no surprise then to see Pakistani ostriches — locally known as policymakers — bury their heads underground as they waited for the shrill threat of being grey-listed by the FATF to pass them by.

In the aftermath of this FATF grey-list fiasco, our government has once more cemented the fact that Pakistan has become a case study in how not to run a country’s fiscal, internal and foreign policy.

Once again, we watched as our policymakers instead of coming up with a solution themselves, looked towards China, Saudi Arabia and Turkey to help in extinguishing the fire, which such a placement signalled in the international arena. Our “ allies” kindly obliged, only for our not so prudent foreign minister, interior minister and adviser on finance to tweet away that support and help by breaking confidentiality of closed-door meetings.

Pakistan has previously been placed on the FATF watch list from 2012 to 2015. This was due to its failure to pass the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism Act. In 2015, Pakistan passed the law and was removed from the FATF list. However, no serious action was taken against those groups and individuals designated as terrorists by the UN. This meant there was no catching or curtailing of UN-designated terrorists and financing entities (even if Pakistan had reservations) like Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), Jaish-e- Mohammed (JeM), Hafiz Saeed and associated financial ‘charities’. The half-hearted measures taken were again an invitation for the FATF to put Pakistan on the watch list.

Over half a century of blundering has come home to roost. A consistent ostrich-like attitude has remained prevalent in policy formulation since 1963 once the US had decided that Pakistan and its worldview were different. The progressively changing international environment for the past 54 years has always been seen in a short-sighted, almost cavalier manner by Pakistan’s national security and foreign policymakers. Not good when we have to contend with Trump’s USA and how Pakistan is in its cross hairs although it can be argued that it was not any different during Obama’s time in office.

In the last week of August 2017, an embarrassing financial shock hit Pakistan’s premier Habib Bank Limited’s New York branch. The US authorities cited the bank branch for money laundering to a “good guys” list which included identified terrorists, illicit arms dealers, Iranian oil shippers and a money transaction business with Saudi Arabia’s private Al Rajhi Bank which had dealings with al Qaeda affiliates. What was truly disturbing was the citing of HBL’s failure to adequately identify, as per law, the Saudi bank’s politically exposed customers belonging to Pakistan’s dynastic ruling family. HBL resultantly had to close its US operations and pay a fine of $225 million (negotiated downwards from an initial $630 million).

The FATF had cautioned Pakistan in February 2017 and again in November 2017 during its International Cooperation Review about its support to LeT, JeM and Jamatud Dawa(JuD). Apparently these notices were also swept under the carpet.

In spite of FATF warnings and even private advice by its ‘friends’, the statements given by government officials have been nothing short of baffling. One minister retorted by saying that Pakistan had been on the FATF watch list till 2015 and despite that its economy grew. Another stated that Pakistan had taken many steps for checking terror financing and was winning the war against terrorism. Some even interpreted the three-month respite given by the FATF till June as a victory. However, facts on the ground belie these claims.

The armed forces and other law-enforcing agencies have undertaken meaningful kinetic operations. These operations have been very successful but are only one small part of the definitive solution to finish off the existential threat faced by the terrorism scourge. The Anti-Extremism bill is still stuck in the National Assembly because there seems to be a power struggle between the defence and interior ministries as to which should ultimately be in charge of its implementation. The National Action Plan (NAP) made with such fanfare after the Peshawar school massacre in 2014 remains similar to its acronym, “napping”. Out of NAP’s twenty points unanimously approved by all political parties, only two points relating to military action have been achieved. The rest of the eighteen points which require legislation, governance, financial oversight (exactly what the FATF has caught Pakistan for), madrassa regulation, etc, are all lost in oblivion. The National Counter Terrorism Authority (Nacta) is the fulcrum for Pakistan’s anti-terrorism policy. It is also point 4 in NAP. That Nacta remains a mere point in NAP and nothing more.

What the (in) action of our government shows is ineptitude and lack of seriousness with regard to tackling the terrorism issue. Pakistan is a country beset by terrorism of all shades but has yet to agree on a definition of ‘terrorism’ across all parties.

The government seems to be fighting a war against its own judiciary, financial accountability mechanisms, law enforcement agencies and military, there is little wonder that terrorists (morphed from criminals, thugs and religious zealots) will continue to have a field day. The question really to be asked is, given our internal lack of governance, lack of foreign policy and corruption-ridden fiscal policy, why are our government officials baffled when the rest of the world does not believe our narrative on terrorism?

Jolts like being placed on the FATF’s grey list will continue with many more to come especially if we have a financial system only catering for certain groups or families to take the people’s national treasury abroad illegally and preachers of religious violence like Khadim Rizvis and Tehreek-e-Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah being mainstreamed and given electoral space.

The consequences that Pakistan faces due to this drift in its fiscal, internal and foreign policies are disastrous to say the least. Pakistan’s friends are in a quandary as we continuously place them in awkward situations. China has now to see first whether it can withstand economic pressure on its multi-trillion dollar business in the West.

Saudi Arabia has had to be placated by the deployment of our troops, about whose strength and role the defence minister has refused to brief parliament about. Turkey is stuck in Syria and seems to be replaying the history of what happened in Afghanistan when its neighbours helped its people with good intentions.

Postscript: Pakistan’s argument of respect and recognition for its sacrifices in the war against terror must be restructured. As it stands, the world does not believe in Pakistan’s narrative. Even its closest allies counsel privately on this. It is imperative that the policymakers and public intellectuals in this country realise that if Pakistan does not wrap up or reorient the internal circus that plagues it, then the doors of our allies will also close — CPEC or no CPEC.

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Peregrine wrote:X Posted on the PESW Thread

Foreign exchange: SBP's reserves plunge $358 Million, stand at $12.35 Billion

On February 23, foreign currency reserves held by the central bank were recorded at $12,345.6 million, down $358 million or 2.82% compared to $12,703.7 million in the previous week.
Overall, liquid foreign reserves held by the country, including net reserves held by banks other than the SBP, stood at $18,413.3 million. Net reserves held by banks amounted to $6,067.7 million.[u
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Paki liars are double counting the 6067 millions held by private people. Actual Paki government reserves are 12345-6067= 6278 Millions.

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Prem wrote:
Peregrine wrote:X Posted on the PESW Thread

Foreign exchange: SBP's reserves plunge $358 Million, stand at $12.35 Billion

On February 23, foreign currency reserves held by the central bank were recorded at $12,345.6 million, down $358 million or 2.82% compared to $12,703.7 million in the previous week.
Overall, liquid foreign reserves held by the country, including net reserves held by banks other than the SBP, stood at $18,413.3 million. Net reserves held by banks amounted to $6,067.7 million.
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Prem wrote:Paki liars are double counting the 6067 millions held by private people. Actual Paki government reserves are 12345-6067= 6278 Millions.
Prem Ji :
As I have stated in an earlier Post the SBP has taken US$ 5.8 Billion from the Commercial Banks, but, the State Bank figures now Include the US$ 5.8 Billion taken from the Commercial Banks however they do not reduce the Commercial Banks' Holding - as such it is a case of Double Accounting.

Thus the “Real Situation” is as follows :

AAA : With SBP : US$12.3456 – With Commercial Banks US$ 0.2677 - Total : US$12.6133 OR

BBB : With SBP : US$06.5456 – With Commercial Banks US$ 6.0677 - Total : US$12.6133

As such Terroriststan's ACTUAL Foreign Exchange Holding in ONLY US$ 6.5456 Billion - Basta! Meantime, Terroristan has to REPAY US$ 4.5 BILLION LOAN by 30 JUNE 2018.

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Re: Terroristan - 4th Jan 2018

Postby Raman » 02 Mar 2018 07:00

As usual, one of their 3.5 will come over and ensure the IMF provides a bail out. (Or else a failed state with nuclear weapons onleee!)

Depending on who it is, the Pakis will do one of, or a combination of:
- gubo
- goubough
- geaubeaux
- qu bo

The pakis will happily take the money and build more nukes.

Lather, rinse and repeat.

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Postby Falijee » 02 Mar 2018 07:09

Chinis Gobbling Up Paki Sea Food Faster Than Ever :mrgreen:

Pakistani seafood gaining popularity in Chinese market

BEIJING: Seafood from Pakistan is gaining in popularity in China, not only because of its low prices but also because of support from government policies. A report from the UK-based undercurrentnews.com in December 2016 said that China had overtaken the EU and Japan at that point to become the largest seafood export market for Pakistan. The Chinese "love" their seafood. Under CPEC ( Colonizing Pakistan To Enrich China!) Pakistan has now "invited" the Chinese to come and invest in Pakistan. China has accepted the offer and in return has send thousands of Chinese to work in Paki cities. In due course of time, the Chinese will become the largest domestic users of Paki Sea Food . The locals will see no sea food :twisted:
“Currently, domestic demand exceeds supply in terms of Pakistani seafood imports,” Chen Hai’ou, president of Kashgar Mufeng and Hezhengyuan Biotechnology Co, told the Global Times.Several seafood distributors said that Pakistani seafood , compared with seafood imported from other sources, is more cost-effective .Other types of Paki food will also be "cost effective" and will be readily imported from Pakiland through the CPEC Highway !
In recent years, the Chinese government has rolled out measures that have encouraged and facilitated imports of seafood from Pakistan and India. = = :roll:
One example is the establishment of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a flagship project of the one Belt and one Road initiative, which has enriched :roll: the transportation channels for Pakistani seafood to enter China.
According to Chen, in the past, Pakistani seafood could enter China only via sea or air transport. But, after the corridor was set up, his company started importing Pakistani seafood by land transportation via Pakistan’s Gwadar Port as well as via Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region.“Pakistani seafood needs to travel only for three days via land transportation to China, compared with 40 days by the sea, so the cash conversion cycle can be much shorter,” Chen said, adding that the seafood will be sold in northwestern and southwestern regions in China. Pakis should beware ! Thin edge of a wide wedge :twisted:
Chen also said that with the large demand for seafood in those regions, as well as the lower transportation costs, more companies will engage in seafood trade with Pakistan. “The business has a promising future,” he said.Apart from transportation, the government has also lowered import tariffs on many types of seafood such as frozen crabs and shrimps, starting from December 2017. Sea food lovers of Pakiland should say "goodbye" to shrimps, lobsters, crabs and other assorted items now on their menu list :mrgreen:
They agree that seafood and fruit (So, the Pakis are going to be "fruitless" as well. :mrgreen:) can become bright spots in Pakistan’s exports to China, and the only question is how this potential can be realized.
It is now feasible to meet Xinjiang consumers’ demand for seafood with Pakistan’s high-quality products, and this will certainly expand China’s imports from the South Asian country. Instead of "gloating" over this development, the newspaper should be thinking of the long term consequences of this dangerous trend !

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Postby Falijee » 02 Mar 2018 07:21

Pakistan Begs And Japan Obliges :mrgreen:

Japan provides 3.5 million dollars for educating 15,000 out-of-school children in Pakistan

Islamabad: The Government of Japan will provide a grant of 393 million JPY (approximately USD 3.5 million) to the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) for supporting its initiative to provide quality alternative education to out-of-school children and adolescents in Pakistan .$ 3.5 Million for Japan is "chicken feed" in their overall budget !
Notes to this effect were signed and exchanged here today between H.E. Mr Takashi Kurai, Ambassador of Japan to Pakistan and Ms.Aida Girma, UNICEF Representative in Pakistan andMr. Yasuhiro Tojo, Chief Representative of Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA). The grant will be used by UNICEF during its new country programme (2018-2022), to establish 400 centres under the Alternative Learning Programme (ALP), led by the Government of Pakistan . Another social function of Govt ( education) palmed off and outsourced to a "foreign friend" for lack of funds :mrgreen:
Nearly 15,000 adolescents between ages 9 to 16 as well as younger children would get a second chance to quality primary education at these centres to be established in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Sindh and Balochistan provinces. Hope that stringent controls are in place to ensure that 100% of the earmarked funds will be used for the intended purpose and the money does not go to enrich politicians, bureaucrats or Fauji officers !
As one of the largest donors for UNICEF in Pakistan , the Government of Japan’s continued support to our country programme is invaluable.”Under the guidance of the Federal Ministry of Education and Professional Training and in collaboration with the provincial education departments, of the total 400 ALP centres, 90 will be established in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, 160 in Balochistan and 150 in Sindh. :((
A total of 13 priority districts have been selected across the three provinces for establishing these centres with a special focus on the enrolment of girls. The ALP centres will have trained facilitators, learning materials and curriculum. Communities will be mobilized for enrolment and retention of children and adolescents. :((
Hope the Japan Govt asks for a report and then audit the financial report :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - 4th Jan 2018

Postby milano » 02 Mar 2018 08:18

Raman wrote:As usual, one of their 3.5 will come over and ensure the IMF provides a bail out. (Or else a failed state with nuclear weapons onleee!)

Depending on who it is, the Pakis will do one of, or a combination of:
- gubo
- goubough
- geaubeaux
- qu bo

The pakis will happily take the money and build more nukes.

Lather, rinse and repeat.



:rotfl: Lol. Nice one. My vote is on the last one, given Mandarin shall soon be one of Pak's official languages. (Added later) I would suggest adding another one: смазать сгибом, (pronounced smazat' sgibom) given the Right H'ble Khawaja Asif's recent visit to, and prematurely triumphalistic tweeting from, Moskva.

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Postby SSridhar » 02 Mar 2018 14:00

Raman, fantastic.

What about Al-gubo ?

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Postby SSridhar » 02 Mar 2018 14:10

How Will Being on the FATF Grey-List Actually Impact Pakistan? - Uzair Younus, The Diplomat

Uzair Younus is a Director at Albright Stonebridge Group
After much debate and speculation following the February Financial Action Task Force (FATF) plenary, the dust has finally settled: Pakistan will be placed on the FATF grey-list in June. It is now worth exploring what this means for Pakistan, particularly its economy, and the potential of this event to cause a shift in the country’s security and strategic calculus.

Some analysts have argued that the grey-listing will squeeze Pakistan’s economy and make it harder for the country to meet its mounting foreign financing needs, including potential future borrowings from the International Monetary Fund. They have also argued that the grey-listing could lead to a downgrade in Pakistan’s debt ratings, making it more difficult to tap into the international bond markets.

The factual evidence, both historic and current, suggests that these assertions are simply incorrect. Pakistan was on the FATF grey-list from 2012 to 2015, a period during which it successfully completed an IMF program and raised over $5 billion from the international bond markets. During this period Pakistan’s imports and exports remained stable, evidence that the grey-listing did not raise any significant barriers to trade.

The reaction of the bond markets to the FATF’s decision has also been muted. Ten-year bonds issued by the country in 2017, for example, have had a decline in their yield from a high of almost 7.4 percent on February 14, 2018 to below 7.1 percent on February 26, 2018. This evidence supports the claim made by Miftah Ismail, adviser to Pakistan’s prime minister, that the economic impact of the grey-listing will be minimal.

It is, however, important to view the FATF’s decision as one of several recent events that should concern Pakistan. Since coming to power, the Trump administration has made a concerted effort to coerce Pakistan into ending its support of nonstate armed groups such as the Haqqani Network. Initially, Pakistan reacted nonchalantly to this shift in policy and released Hafiz Saeed, leader of the Laskhar-e-Taiba (LeT) and the man India holds responsible for the 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, from house arrest in November of 2017.

President Donald Trump responded via Twitter and said that Pakistan has given the United States “nothing but lies & deceit.” The United States then showcased a willingness to squeeze Pakistan’s finances: the administration suspended assistance of over $1 billion, which included military assistance and the release of Coalition Support Funds (CSF), money which the United States owes to Pakistan for military operations, according to Pakistani officials.

Sensing that the United States would use the FATF’s February meeting to up the ante, Islamabad began to set its house in order. Pakistani President Mamnoon Hussain issued an ordinance that amended the country’s 1997 Anti-Terrorism Act and placed Hafiz Saeed’s Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) and Falah-i-Insaniat Foundation (FIF) on the country’s banned organizations list. The government followed up by taking over both organizations’ assets, which includes thousands of staff and volunteers and dozens of schools and clinics. It is worth noting here that it took Pakistan almost 10 years – JuD had been declared a terrorist front group by the United Nations Security Council in 2008 – to act against these organizations.

Pakistan also mounted a last-ditch attempt to cement support from its traditional allies, including Saudi Arabia, China, and Turkey. To garner Saudi support, Pakistan agreed to send an additional 1,000 troops to Saudi Arabia, something it had refused to do in 2015. All of this proved to be too little too late as only Turkey supported Pakistan at the FATF plenary.

Pakistan has survived previous rounds of international pressure and there is scant evidence that the strategic calculus of Pakistan’s security establishment is shifting this time around. The strategy to mainstream the LeT has not been abandoned: the Milli Muslim League (MML), a political party associated with Hafiz Saeed, was launched last year. United States officials have also said that they have not seen any visible action by the Pakistanis against the Haqqani Network and its facilitators. Civil society continues to be targeted, with Pashtun youth organizing against extrajudicial killings by security forces bearing the brunt in recent days.

Pakistan is a classic case of moral hazard: its security establishment is used to taking outsized risks and not suffering the consequences because of protection offered by one or more international patrons, including the United States. What is different this time around is that China and Saudi Arabia, strategic partners that have historically supported Pakistan, have signaled that they will not unconditionally stand by their ally. There is also an ongoing debate in Pakistan around the country’s security and foreign policy and a growing recognition that policies rooted in the pre-9/11 mindset are leading to greater international isolation. The optimists may cautiously hope that a nudge by the Chinese coupled with a growing domestic debate may finally lead to a shift in Pakistan’s strategic posture. However, those that have closely followed Pakistan would argue that even a cautiously optimistic assessment is too optimistic.

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Re: Terroristan - 4th Jan 2018

Postby JE Menon » 02 Mar 2018 15:10

Raman,

That’s a BRF masterpiece post. But who are gubough (Britain?) and geaubeaux (France?)... also do answer The question from SS.

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Postby Peregrine » 02 Mar 2018 15:15

Saudi Arabia cuts jobs for Pakistanis by over two-thirds

ISLAMABAD: In a major setback, Pakistan’s human resource export has dropped by almost 40% in 2017 with Saudi Arabia having reduced the employment for Pakistani workers by over 2/3rd as against 2016.

Official figures of the Bureau of Emigration and Overseas Employment show that against 839,353 Pakistani workers registered for overseas employment through the Bureau in 2016, the total number of persons employed in 2017 (till November 30th) is 465,0586 showing a sharp decline.

The government figures are really worrisome in the case of Saudi Arabia. In 2016, a total of 462,598 Pakistanis got employments in the kingdom. This figure saw a major decline in 2017 when only 143,368 got employment in Saudi Arabia. This figure of 2017 i.e. 143,368 reflects full year picture.

The official figure of the Bureau of Emigration and Overseas Employment shows that during the eleven months (upto November) of 2017 a total of 465,586 persons got foreign employment through the Bureau. If the figure of December 2017 is included, the 2017’s figure may be a little over 500,000.

The 2017 foreign employment figure, the sources said, is really upsetting as it will not only have negative impact on foreign remittances but also in un-employment ratio of the country. The 2017, it is said, has been the worst for several past years. Sharing the figures, the source said that in 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013 and 2012 the number of human resource export has been 839,353, 946,571, 752,466, 622,714 and 638,587 respectively.

The official sources said that the major dent to Pakistan human resource export in 2017 has been made by the dramatic decline in the employment opportunities for Pakistani workers in Saudi Arabia. No problem! Terroristan has sent "sufficient" soldiers to ~Saudi Arbai including the latest addition!

Giving the comparison of the past, the official source said that the Saudi Arabia quota for Pakistani workers in 2017 was even less than what Islamabad was offered by Riyadh in 2009.

The official data from 2009-2017 as shared with The News, shows the number of Pakistanis getting employment in Saudi Arabia as 201,816 in 2009, 189,888 in 2010, 222,247 in 2011, 358,560 in 2012, 270,502 in 2013, 312,489 in 2014, 522,750 in 2015, 462,598 in 2016 and 143,368 in 2017.

In the past, Saudi Arabia has always been the country offering major share of employment to Pakistanis. However, in 2017 against the figure of 143,368 in the case of Saudi Arabia, a total of 27,543 Pakistani workers got employment in the United Arab Emirates.

The Pakistani workers export to other Arab countries like Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain etc remained disappointing even in 2017. During the year, only 9,989 Pakistanis got employment in Qatar, 7,210 in Bahrain and 741 in Kuwait.

The ruling Sharif family claims to have their excellent relations with the Arab world particularly Saudi Arabia. However, the 2017 human resource export figure to Arab countries shows disappointing performance of the PML-N government.

In 2016, the PML-N government had claimed that during the then Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif tour, the Emir of Qatar had announced 100,000 jobs from Pakistan for its FIFA World Cup 2022. The 2017 figures does not show any hint of implementation of such a decision by the Qatari government. During the 2016 visit of the prime minister to Kuwait, the media also reported about the lifting of restriction on issuing of visas to Pakistani national by the Kuwaiti government. However, the 2017 official figures also contradict such reports.

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Postby Peregrine » 02 Mar 2018 16:06

X Posted in the PESW Thread

Terroristan AKA Phudgingstan!

Energy sector circular debt touches record Rs922bn
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’ energy sector’s circular debt is estimated to have gone beyond a record Rs 922 billion mark by end of November 2017.
According to a report submitted to the parliament this week, the Ministry of Finance has put the amount of circular debt at Rs 472.678bn as of November 30, 2017.
The report, however, did not explain that another Rs 450bn debt was separately parked with Power Holding Private Limited (PHPL) — a subsidiary of the power division — created to raise funds from commercial banks and is financed through surcharges built into the consumer tariff.
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Postby Peregrine » 02 Mar 2018 17:09

Washington urges Delhi, Islamabad to hold talks
WASHINGTON: The United States has urged India and Pakistan to sit down and talk about the issues that increase tensions between South Asia’s two nuclear-armed neighbours.
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Postby Falijee » 02 Mar 2018 17:22

Naming And Shaming Of The Pakis By The Balochis :mrgreen:

Tarek Fatah Retweeted
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‏ @WorldBalochOrg
20h20 hours ago
As #Geneva hosts the 37th UNHRC session, which brings together hundreds of state and NGO reps from around the world, the WBO launches a #HumanRights advertising campaign in the city. The initiative urges people to speak out against #Pakistan's human rights abuses in #Balochistan.

PS: Pakistan is a member of the UN Human Rights Council ( UNHRC)!!!

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Postby Falijee » 02 Mar 2018 18:40

Three Factors That Will Determine The Immediate Future Of Paki Politics - Analysis By Najam Sethi

Danger Zone

Three volatile ingredients are now in the explosive pot of Pakistani politics. No one quite knows what the broth will taste like when it is finally cooked and served up to the hapless people of Pakistan.
The first is the stunning victory of the PMLN in Lodhran over the PTI’s opening batsman Jehangir Tareen. The second is Imran Khan’s shocking third marriage to a hastily divorced Pirni from Pakpattan with five children. A third is the extraordinary judgment of the Supreme Court disqualifying Nawaz Sharif from being President of the PMLN and nullifying his decisions in that capacity retrospectively.
The Lodhran victory by a nondescript PMLN worker over a scion of the Tareen family has encouraged Nawaz Sharif to flog this victory as a reaffirmation of his “anti-iqama disqualification” narrative plus “development agenda” in the Punjab, even though local sentiment against the Tareens because of “sugar policy politics” may have been no less significant. This victory has emboldened Mr Sharif to become more aggressive in his anti-judiciary campaign,... Nawaz has been "badmouthing" the judiciary in his current tour of Pakiland :mrgreen:
Imran Khan’s third marriage at “election time” has added to the PTI’s woes. It is no less frowned upon than the second one was during his “dharna politics” period. In a deeply conservative society, and one to which Khan panders with his reiteration of “traditional values” etc., it just isn’t done to go off with a “friend’s wife”, mother of five, and his “pirni” to boot.... From the looks of it, it seemed liked the PTI party got married and not Immy :mrgreen:
However, it is the SC’s judgement against Mr Sharif that has the potential to change the political landscape of Pakistan. By also retrospectively nullifying Mr Sharif’s decisions in his capacity as President of the PMLN, it has cast a deep shadow over the fate of the Senate elections due next week because the PMLN candidates were formally approved by Mr Sharif. Either the Election Commission will have to postpone the elections until a new PMLN President is elected and formally approves the candidates or it will have to go ahead without the PMLN candidates and accord victory to the opponents by default. The Deep State make Ganja irrelevant to Paki politics, by hook or by crook - not sure it can be done, IMO !
Far more significant is the consequential negative impact of this judgment on the credibility and fate of the judiciary. Essentially this judgment has struck a blow against the fundamental constitutional rights of citizens to assemble a political party and its leadership on the unprecedented yardstick of “morality” rather than “integrity or sovereignty of Pakistan or public order”. This flies against the accepted jurisprudence of the land – Articles 62 and 63 apply specifically and only to members of parliament and may not be applied outside parliament to members of political parties – and is so overarching as to restrict many freedoms under the new rubric. It also lends weight to Mr Sharif’s accusation that the law and Constitution are being bent and broken simply to get rid of him personally and forever. If media reports are to be believed, Hajam Sethi is an ardent supporter of Nawaz !
We are in Danger Zone. The old notion of “The Establishment” obliquely referred to the civil-military bureaucratic oligarchy. Now, with the judiciary leading the charge, the meaning of the “Miltablishment” is becoming clear to the layman. We should be deeply worried if a perception gains currency that this conflict has become highly personalised, that the judges are fronting for the military, that some of them have a Messiah complex, and Nawaz Sharif is on a populist path that has the potential under these circumstances to plunge state and society into chaos.

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Postby Falijee » 02 Mar 2018 18:45

ACCORDING TO THIS GUP-SHUP GOSSIP, IMMY'S NEW PIRNI PLUNGES INTO PAKI POLITICS AND DOES SOME POLITICAL HOUSE CLEANING OF HER OWN :mrgreen:

At Bunny Gala, there’s a whole new line-up of favourites, given The Mystic’s preferences. She rules the roost, we hear, not just The Great Khan’s heart. And his closest and most generous comrade of the recent past has fallen out of favour. Also conspicuous by their absence at The Khans’ valima were SMQ ( This Is Shah Mohammed Qurieshi - Ex PPP !) and Shafto. It was a small, private affair – all the more reason to be surprised that some life-long friends were missing, especially those from the salad days!

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Postby Falijee » 02 Mar 2018 18:52

Local Writers Sidelined. Big Brand Name Writers Welcomed ! Nuts And Bolts Of Paki Literary Festivals. :mrgreen:

Beyond the class divide

Posh accents, fashionable attire, celebrity writers that are whisked off as soon as they are done speaking — the literary festival thrives off an air of cool impenetrability. The bigger the festival the more security and detachment it necessitates, feeding off its own carefully cultivated mystique of inapproachability.
Literary festivals in Pakistan — particularly their pioneering and most enduring iterations, the KLF and the LLF — have been criticised for their elitist foundations since the time of their inception. As a response to this criticism a couple of sessions in local languages have been added in recent years.
Even then it’s hard to escape the feeling that non English-speaking panels are a token addition and that the literary festival is really the property of a business-savvy, well-connected crowd that knows how to package literature for a well-to-do audience. Its aim is not an engagement with local audiences, but to be the arbiter of taste for the select few.
Perhaps this is what explains the notable absence of major Pakistani writers in English like Mohammed Hanif, Bilal Tanweer and Musharraf Ali Farooqi (the latter two also residents of the city where the festival is being held).
Interestingly, the biggest draw of the LLF this year is the international movie star and rapper, Riz Ahmed, who played the protagonist in the movie version of Mohsin Hamid’s novel, The Reluctant Fundamentalist. He has also written a moving long-form piece about his experience as a brown actor in Hollywood. His literary credentials beyond that are unconfirmed but bringing one of Time magazine’s most influential people of 2017 to Lahore is a marketing coup for the LLF, a piece of marketing genius it is consistently adept at pulling.
But the fact still remains that there are sharp divisions in the country’s literature on linguistic and class lines, and those with money and influence get the lion’s share of media coverage and hype. Thank God, that this festival finished without any untoward accident !
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Postby Raman » 02 Mar 2018 21:35

SS, JEM - right you are, Sirs.

The revised list is:
- gubo [US]
- goubough [UK]
- geaubeaux [FRA]
- qu po [CHN]
- al-gubo [KSA]

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Postby kancha » 02 Mar 2018 22:03



Sharing some thoughts on this. Nothing which isn't already known over here, just compiled some of that in a layman's language.

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With the Pakistani State apparatus actively fomenting / sponsoring terror inside India, each and every Pakistani citizen paying tax to his Govt in whichever form, is actually enabling it kill Indian soldiers and civilians.

The State support for terror is blatant. At times it is apparent for all to see as in Punjab Govt budget catering money for Hafiz Saeed’s JuD. (Pakistan’s Punjab Government allocates funds for JuD centre)

Other times too it is quite apparent, esp when a retired Terroristani Army Chief boasts about it. This specimen refers to use of terrorists as ‘the asymmetric war led by men with high motivation’. Very clever, I’d say! (DEVISING A ROBUST DEFENCE POLICY: Mirza Aslam Beg)

Since terror is a State policy of the Islamic Republic of The Land of the Pure, I’d rather constrict the resources available to them to do so, or at the very least, try not to add to the funds available for them to do so. A Ghulam Ali, talented as he might be, making money off you and me will pump most of it in Pakistani economy, ultimately putting it to use to kill my countrymen.

And then someone like Rahat Fateh Ali Khan would go a step further, choosing to smuggle it out in cash without even paying the mandatory Indian taxes! (Rahat Fateh Ali Khan stopped at IGI airport with cash in baggage)
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At the end of the day, ‘Art has no Boundaries’ is a universal truth which I too endorse, but to say that you make money off me and use it to try and kill me, is something I’d be an idiot to endorse. Simply for this reason, I am all for chucking out terror sponsoring Pakistani artists / sportsmen.

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Postby Falijee » 02 Mar 2018 22:20

The Pakistani State's Official Fatwa Against Jihad Is Bogus, Deceptive, And Meaningless; The World Will Be Better Without It
Tufail Ahmed - Middle East Media Research Institute ( Memri )

On January 16, 2018, the government of Pakistan unveiled a fatwa ("Islamic decree"), which was described as the Pakistani "nation's unanimous declaration to counter extremism and end terrorism."[1] Media reports said that the fatwa was seconded by more than 1,800 Islamic scholars.[2] The fatwa is published as a book called Paigham-e-Pakistan ("The Message Of Pakistan"), written by the researchers of the Islamic Research Institute at the International Islamic University, Islamabad (IIUI). The revision and endorsement of the 121-page book, as noted in it, was carried out by "eminent scholars of all schools of thought, muftis [jurists] and professors of national universities."The draft of "The Message Of Pakistan" was presented at a seminar on May 26, 2017. At the seminar, a joint declaration and a fatwa were also released. Later, religious scholars from divergent schools of Islam discussed and approved "The Message Of Pakistan," which will be referred to in this article as the Fatwa. "The Message identifies the problems faced by the State of Pakistan and provides basis to devise a strategy to achieve the goals of Objectives Resolution," the preface says and adds: "This document is now published with the approval of the State of Pakistan to implement it as a bisic [sic] national code of conduct." The Objectives Resolution refers to a code which, in short, led to the Islamization of the Pakistani state and unleashed religious extremism in Pakistani society.
The Fatwa was released at a function in Islamabad presided over by Pakistani President Mamnoon Hussain and attended by Islamic scholars, academics, and government ministers.
Despite this noble goal, a running deception behind this Fatwa, as discussed below, is its total silence about how Islam treats religious minorities. Pakistan pays "lip service" to minorities . Policies ( on paper ) and practice are entirely two different things.!

The Fatwa – Or "The Message Of Pakistan"

Chapter 1 – Islamic Code Of Conduct

Chapter 2 – Islamic Republic Of Pakistan

Chapter 3 – The State Of Pakistan And Challenges Faced By Pakistani Society

Chapter 4 – Joint Declaration

9. "All public and private educational institutions must not impart any hostile military education or training, hatred, extremism and violence." In principle, this point is just. In practice, all provincial governments have published school textbooks that teach hate against Pakistani Hindus, Christians, and other religious minorities. :evil: [12]

Chapter 5 – Unanimous Fatwa (May 26, 2017)

In response to the fourth question, the 2017 fatwa declares that anyone fighting against the government "in the name of implementation of Shari'ah" is "committing High Treason" against an Islamic state. " My" Islam is better than "your" Islam syndrome :mrgreen:
A 9-point summary of Chapter 5 also endorses the Pakistani military line. The peoples of India and Afghanistan, who are on the receiving end of the Pakistani military-sponsored jihadi war, will find absolutely nothing in this 121-page Message of Pakistan. If the state of Pakistan is sincere in offering equality and peace to non-Muslims within Pakistan itself, here is what it must do as a first step: abolish Article 41 (2) which states: "A person shall not be qualified for election as President unless he is a Muslim." This will allow a non-Muslim Pakistani citizen to become the president of Pakistan and revolutionize the principle of equality that Islamic clerics say Islam teaches.
Basically a propaganda doc . !


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