Terroristan - 4th Jan 2018

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Rudradev wrote:SBajwa ji, I think it was just for storage. Pakistan is paranoid that Indian first strike will take out all their phatakas, or else US marines will land and seize all their stockpiles, so they keep some nukes in frigates, submarines, toilets, airliners, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, wherever they think they will be safe.
Rudradev-ji :
According to Bruce Reidel ( who served under Clinton), the Paki Islamic Bomb, in order to evade Massa detection , were , at one time anayway, even plying on the highways and bye-ways of Pakiland :mrgreen:
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"SUCH GUP" GOSSIP ON "PINKY - PIRNI"

Supernatural knowledge of hidden world, sure PM job, two more pregnancies in the works :mrgreen:


The Prophecy
We hear that The Great Khan’s new wife, now universally known as Pinky Pirni, has foretold that in order for The Prophecy to be complete, she and The Khan will soon have two sons. After this, she has prophesied, The Great Khan will ascend the throne, Takht-e-Islami Jamhooriya-e-Pakistan. We also asked a source in The Khan’s horde if Wife No. 2’s explosive allegations, soon to be revealed in a tell-all book, regarding the long-standing nature of The Khan’s relationship with Pinky Pirni are true. The source was reluctant to reply, saying that he was petrified of being discovered, given the Pirni’s ilm-e-ghaib, supernatural knowledge of the Hidden World.
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India - China "Sazish" Against Pakistan- Per This Paki Paper :mrgreen:

How India convinced China to vote against Pakistan in FATF
ISLAMABAD – The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) on Friday decided to put Pakistan on the greylist, submitting it to intense scrutiny on terror financing. China withdrew its objection to the nomination, allowing consensus to go through, sources said.Earlier this week, Pakistan had claimed victory in the ongoing FATF meeting as a preliminary discussion in the International Co-operation Review Group (ICRG) failed to build a consensus on putting it again on the watch list.However, US and Indian officials had called the claim “premature” and said a final decision was still to come. IMO, the Sialkoti FM of Pakistan, Kh. Asif is surely to be blamed for his "pre-mature celebratory tweet !
On Wednesday morning, Pakistan Foreign Minister Khawaja M. Asif, who was in Moscow at the time, tweeted that Pakistan had won a reprieve of three months in which to convince the international body not to put it on a “greylist” of countries where terror financing and black money laundering needed scrutiny.Pakistan was on the FATF watch list from 2012 to 2015, then only on issues of money laundering.“Our efforts paid[off],”. Asif wrote, adding that the committee had proposed a three-month pause with another report to be considered in June. Asif is noted for his "loose tongue". Pakistan made a "huge mistake" in awarding him this important portfolio !
This is the first time that China acceded to an Indian prompt and did not stand firm with Pakistan at a global anti-terror forum, thus landing a crippling blow on Pakistan’s financial credentials. The process of monitoring Islamabad will, however, begin from June on the basis of a roadmap that FATF will prepare by then. Pakistan cannot afford to "annoy" China, or Saudia !
Ironically, it was the statement of Pakistani Foreign Minister Khwaja Asif, announcing that Pakistan had managed another reprieve from FATF, which provided the opening for a second bid by the US to get Pakistan on to the watchlist.
Asif, it appears, celebrated early when the proposal did not move through the shorter plenary of the FATF. Here, China, Turkey, and the Saudi-Arabia-led Gulf Cooperation Council as a single bloc voted against the move to put Pakistan on FATF’s terror watchlist.
After Asif’s statement, India and the US launched a renewed effort. Washington, sources told the international media, introduced a fresh proposal in the longer plenary using Asif’s statement as an example of Pakistan’s lack of seriousness towards FATF and its rules of confidentiality.
FATF rules state that if a minimum of three members’ votes against the proposal, then it cannot go through. While the US worked on Saudi Arabia and Turkey, India dealt with China alone. Hectic diplomacy went on in New Delhi, Washington and Beijing as FATF considered the proposal in Paris.Eventually, the Indian delegation, acting on instructions from New Delhi, struck a deal with the Chinese team that related to support for a greater FATF role for Beijing in the future. Another win for Indian Diplomacy under Modi- Sarkar !
Soon, all the three objections were removed and the proposal went through Thursday, though a final statement will emerge after the last day of the meeting Friday.
hrough this decision, Pakistan will be put on regular monitoring, all banking transactions in the country will come under closer global watch, thus pulling down Pakistan’s credibility in global financial transactions.In technical terms, Pakistan has been put in a review process under the International Cooperation Review Group of the FATF. It had been under review earlier but was removed in 2015.Specifically, on the FATF table, the proof is against JeM front Falah-i-Insaaniyat and LeT and its front Jamaat-ud-Dawa, which are evidently transacting financial business without much difficulty. Pakistan has since taken some "window dressing" measures :mrgreen:
The FATF follows an elaborate process to assess compliance, based on which it issues public statements on countries with deficiencies. Countries on this grey list are practically treated like pariahs in the international financial system. North Korea, Iran and Uganda are examples of some ‘jurisdictions’ that keep struggling within this list.
In November, at the Buenos Aires plenary of the FATF, China managed to push back a similar effort, getting Pakistan off the hook. All that Pakistan was asked to do was give an action taken the report on LeT, JuD and Falah-i-Insaniyat foundation at the next plenary, which is held three times a year.The Asia Pacific Group (APG) conveyed to the FATF that Pakistan could be given a break and assessed directly in 2019, when its turn comes up for country evaluation.
India objected, saying Islamabad has done little to get a two-year reprieve and that it should be put on 90-day reporting to the International Cooperation Review Group of the FATF. While India did not get the desired result in Buenos Aires, it managed China’s support in Paris.
Pakistan faced a similar risk in 2016 when the APG had found measures taken by Islamabad inadequate. One of the first actions that the Trump administration took in January 2017 was to summon the Pakistani ambassador and inform him of the consequences this could lead to. This action resulted in the Pakistani government placing Hafiz Muhammad Saeed under house arrest. The FATF plenary in February 2017 took note, but asked Pakistan to submit another report to the APG. Pakistan protested and then rallied support with the active help of China to get a positive outcome within the APG.
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The confusion about Pakistan being on the FATF List is not very clear !

Official statement by FATF, contains no mention of Pakistan.

Pakistan on watchlist for terror financing
THE HINDU
Suhasini Haidar
The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) Plenary on February 23 decided to put Pakistan back on the “grey list,” subjecting it to direct monitoring and intense scrutiny by the International Co-operation Review Group (ICRG) on terror financing, pending further review in June.
Although the nomination did not find a mention in the formal statement released by the global money laundering/terror-financing watchdog, diplomats and officials privy to the development confirmed it.
Pakistan will, under a “Compliance Document,” now be required to furnish a fresh report to the International Co-operation Review Group (ICRG). Accordingly, the country will undergo a review at the next Plenary in June, when it would be presented a full action plan on how it is expected to crack down on terror groups banned by the UN Security Council. (Based on the "omission" from Formal Statement (above), Pakistan now will claim "victory of some sorts" )
At the end of the Plenary session, when the FATF Chair asked, there were no objections to the nomination of Pakistan, a move that could see it face financial strictures, and ratings downgrades by international banking and credit rating agencies until Islamabad carries out a full crackdown on terror groups. It was another tweet, this time from Pakistani Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal who thanked Turkey for “standing with Pakistan as one” and didn’t mention any others, that confirmed the final outcome.
No mention of Pakistan in FATF's public announcements following plenary meeting- Dawn

The FATF has for its own reasons refrained from "naming and shaming" Pakiland in its Formal Statement. The fact is Pakistan will again be required to submit an updated Report by the end of June, to see how serious it is, in the matter of compliance !
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Bakistan may have this bullet once again. See link to FATF website. On the contrary, many international observers have confirmed that terroristan did make it to the list. But in this link, no mention of the rogue nation. Not sure what is going on.

http://www.fatf-gafi.org/publications/f ... -2018.html
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However, Reuters is now saying this:

Global watchdog to put Pakistan back on terrorist financing watchlist: sources
A global money-laundering watchdog has decided to place Pakistan back on its terrorist financing watchlist, a government official and a diplomat said on Friday, in a likely blow to Pakistan’s economy and its strained relations with the United States.
The decision was taken yesterday. The chair (of FATF) is expected to make a statement some time this afternoon in Paris,” the diplomat said.
Could the decision have been reversed within a day? Possible.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-paki ... SKCN1G70X7
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This Tweet by Amrullah Saleh one of Afghanistan's best diplomat cum bureaucrat could explain Paki Strategy with respect to the FATF decision as well (ie not to "name Pakistan" in its Formal Statement ) :evil:


Amrullah Saleh
‏ @AmrullahSaleh2
Feb 10

Organizers of the Pashtune protest should learn from Afg, US & other negotiators that Pak establishment is brilliant in buying the moment, calming you down, putting all types of promises on paper just to stab you a while later. Be different, don't be fooled & do verification.
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anupmisra wrote:However, Reuters is now saying this:

Global watchdog to put Pakistan back on terrorist financing watchlist: sources

Same is being independently reported on WSJ
With U.S. Push, Pakistan Placed on Terror Finance List
Saudi Arabia abandons earlier support for Islamabad under pressure from Washington
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The Strategic Blunders Of Pakistan

Our strategic blunders
M Ziauddin,February 22, 2018
The following excerpts from Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa’s speech at the 54th Munich Security Conference held last Saturday pinpoints the blunder that we committed under the misguided leadership of General Ziaul Haq when according to General Bajwa the Frankenstein (terrorism) was actually created by the liberal free world, with “willing, but myopic cooperation from our side after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979.” To put the emergence of terrorism in its correct historical perspective General Bajwa had elucited: “In Pakistan,… jihad has definitely been used to radicalise fairly large tracts of population. However, this phenomenon is not a recent creation or started after 9/11. The Frankenstein was actually created by the liberal free world, with willing, but myopic cooperation from our side after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. Therefore, we all are responsible for making the world population in general and Muslim population in particular, hostage to this extremist ideology.
“Times have surely changed since the noon of March 10, 1982, when, President Ronald Reagan, dedicated the March 22nd launch of the Columbia Space Shuttle to the valiant Afghan Mujahideens or Jihadis and termed their struggle against the Soviet occupation forces as a representation of `man’s highest aspirations for freedom.“When I was young, Pakistan was as normal a country as any other on the earth. Jacqueline Kennedy flew to Karachi, the Beatles visited us, Queen Elizabeth went to the Khyber Pass to chat with the tribesmen. We were a favourite tourism destination for many. We were hosting world cups of hockey and cricket, besides many other multi-national events. World Bank had termed Pakistan in 1963 as one of the most progressive and dynamic developing countries in Asia.
“The seventies were nothing less than a disaster for us, but even the separation of the Eastern part of our country and the political upheavals thereafter, did not change the society as deeply as the events of 1979, the year the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan and the Iranian revolution happened, next door. It was only then that we started learning that we were not only Muslims, but were Sunnis and Shias. It was also the time that we were drawn to conviction of fighting Soviet invasion and also challenging communist ideology. “With the able intellectual assistance of free world, a syllabus was designed in one of the Western Universities for Madaris wherein jihad was fed to young minds in a concentrated dose without context or explanation. An exception was created, using a self defence clause to justify declaration of jihad by Non State Actors. Young men were recruited from all over the world, radicalised and then left and disowned after they had delivered us, the success.” Mr Bajwa, lets be honest ! You had a choice . You could have declined to "be in the bed with USA". But your country saw the opportunity to "milk" the USA. Then 9/11 (with your help !) happened , the world changed and you still "relied" on the Islamic Warriors to do your dirty work. Now you are reaping the consequences of your short sighted policies !
While who did what, at which point in time makes it abundantly clear that the so-called free world led by the US was the real inventors of ‘jihadism’ alias terrorism, General Bajwa, has very rightly did not absolve our late military ruler, President General Zia and his close coterie, of course without naming names, of being myopic enough to become an active partner in this short sighted game which has now become an albatross around Pakistan’s neck.
And this brings us to the ISPR’s latest announcement that we have decided to send almost one full division to Saudi Arabia which is engaged in a war with Yemen. This is in addition to the 1600 Pakistani troops already stationed there. Another "strategic blunder" , the consequences / blow-back will surely happen !
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Defence Minister Khurram Dastgiron Monday stunned the Senators by refusing to disclose the location of the deployment of the troops being sent to the Kingdom even in an in-camera session beyond that the troops would be located within the geographical boundaries of Saudi Arabia :roll:
Perhaps this is Pakistan’s too quick-fire response to Tehran leasing to New Delhi the other day operational control of part of the Iranian Chabahar port for 18 months. If that is what is it then perhaps a second look at our decision would not be inappropriate just to calculate its strategic cost-benefit ratio. :D And of course, the anal-yst has omitted to mention the decision by Pakistan to put all its eggs in the CPEC basket- another strategic blunder with long -term consequences !

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Guys, remember TSP has been and will be a strategic terrorist asset in the hands of the west despite the short-term temporary hiccups, the confusion on whether or TSP is on the FATF list could due to some intense back-room negotiations with TSP Guboing with all its might to give it some kind of reprieve or at least some form of H&D so those baaad Hindus don't crow on their TV channels.
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Murree Brewery Earns Rs 629 Million In An Islamic Country Where "Sharab" Is Banned :shock:

Murree Brewery earns Rs629m
KARACHI: Murree Brewery Company Ltd’s profit after tax (PAT) soared 51 per cent :roll: year-on-year to Rs629 million for the year ended Dec 31, 2017.Earnings per share improved to Rs27.30 from Rs18.04 last year. The company’s board announced a cash dividend of Rs10 per share, in addition to the already paid Rs5. Net sales grew 31pc to Rs4.16bn in the latest period, from Rs3.17bn last year.
Pakistan is an Islamic Country where liquor is banned !!! Most of the sales are for domestic consumption !!!. Muslims are prohibited from drinking !!!
Go figure :mrgreen:
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Imran's "Easy Come , Easy Go" Marriage Strategy Attacked This Time By A "Paki Ayeshi" :mrgreen:

The issue with Imran Khan's third marriage
Why has it created hype? After all why are people unable to accept it? Why is everyone so enraged about it? There is nothing wrong with the marriage in itself. It is religiously and legally correct. Then what is the issue? The issue is the trend that Mr Khan has set, that it is OK to repeatedly "Divorce" women and "Re-marry" another.
Have to respectfully disagree with the Ayesha ! This "trade-in" for a new spouse policy is not unique to the Kaptaan. There are many examples of "upper crust" Pakis who "use and discard" women in this way !
There are people in electronic and social media alike, who are rationalizing Mr Khan’s re-re-re-marriage. According to most of such opinions neither is Divorce the end of life nor should it be considered as a STIGMA. While I agree to the aforementioned statements as it is yet I have serious concerns when it is said for the remarriage of Mr Khan. Has divorce ever been as big of a stigma for men in our society as it has been for women? Proportionately speaking it wouldn’t be an overstatement to say that it has not been a stigma for men at all
Moreover, marriage is not only about "Halal Consummation". :roll: "Haram Consumption Consummation also exists in Pakiland :twisted: It is about a commitment to a lifelong companionship and respect, love and affection towards each other. If at all not all these, it is still a huge responsibility. Any excuses like workload etc is not enough to exempt a man from the responsibility of trying hard to sustain a marriage . Divorce is the last resort to ultimately end a marriage; nevertheless, by supporting circumstances such as Mr Khan’s we are promoting and endorsing exactly the averse.
In my humble opinion Mr Khan is being disrespectful towards women. The man is an icon of Pakistan !!!
I, therefore, believe that our society should not accept, uphold or justify acts that imply degradation of women’s dignity. Rather we need men in our society who respect and support WOMEN. We need women who respect themselves and can show men that they are not easily accessible. I am guessing that she is NOT going to vote for PTI party :mrgreen:
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U.S. shared intelligence to fix Pakistan diplomat in terror plot
The National Investigation Agency has charged Amir Zubair Siddiqui and two others in the alleged conspiracy to attack nuclear installations, defence establishments, the U.S. Consulate in Chennai, the Israeli Consulate in Bengaluru and ports.
Digital intelligence shared by U.S. security agencies was crucial in fixing Amir Zubair Siddiqui, Counsellor (Visa) at the Pakistan High Commission in Sri Lanka, in the terror plot to blow up vital establishments in India.
Sources in the investigating agency told The Hindu that Thameem Ansari and Mohamed Zakir Hussain were the main agents hired by Mr. Siddiqui to gather details of the high-security establishments across the country. After their arrest, both the suspects confessed that the Pakistan diplomat was their handler and they transmitted videos/photographs of target locations to him.
However, the agency could not gather adequate evidence to name Mr. Siddiqui in the chargesheet. “The NIA then initiated steps to seek the expertise of some foreign countries under the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty to extract digital evidence to prove the involvement of the Pakistan diplomat. Since visual elements were sent by e-mail and Facebook, we approached U.S Intelligence agencies through Interpol seeking their support in cracking the case,” a source said.
The plan was to smuggle in two Pakistan nationals to carry out the attacks using fake passport and visa.
NIA sources said Mr. Siddiqui visited Chennai, Mumbai and Kolkata after the terror module was busted.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/u ... epage=true
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What ! Pakistan Has A Drug Problem :eek:

Pakistan’s huge drug addiction problem :twisted:
Behind the tragicomic story of “Kamlesh” from India’s city of Bhopal, whose video went viral on Youtube last year after receiving millions of views, there lies a misery and plight of drug addicts and the parallel, rather regretful, lack of awareness and the required sensitivity that we as Pakistanis should attach to the issue of chronic drug addicts. From the perspective of many middle-class families, an addict at home is a source of dishonour, for lower-class families an economic burden and for the state, simply a symbol of incivility and uselessness. In the context of increasing death-rate due to drug-addiction, how is the gross abandonment of these people by the two major institutions — family and state — any different than the extended form of honour killing and mass murder respectively? reverse = = :roll:
In July 2015, Anti-Narcotics Force (ANF) informed the Senate Standing Committee on Interior and Narcotics Control that an estimated of 700 people in Pakistan die every day due to drug-related problems, compared to terrorism-related activities that result in the loss of average 39 lives per day. Here is the irony. Both terrorism and drug-addiction-related problems in Pakistan are conveniently attributed :D as originating from our western neighbour, Afghanistan, which usually keeps us in a state of denial because both these problems are not home-grown, they are imported.
Yet, Pakistan had to spend about Rs800 billion per year on the war on terror over the past 15 years largely from its own resources. Against this expenditure, which obviously is necessary to fight terrorism, the federal budget 2017-18 allocated a mere Rs70 million as ‘National Fund for Control of Drug Use’ as laid out in section 54 of the Control of Narcotic Substances Act (CNSA) 1997. It is simple mathematics. The federal government only wanted to spend Rs11 on each drug addict in 2018. IMO, Pakistan should increase the Bill to Massa for Losses Due to "War On Terror" from 100 Billion US $ to 150 Billion US $ to take into account "Drug Addiction" menace :mrgreen:
The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) in its 2013 “Drug Use in Pakistan” report released staggering statistics. It says that about 6.7 million people in the country are drug users consuming different substances including plant-based drugs, medical prescription drugs, opioids, opiates (heroin and opium) and tranquilisers. Of these, about 4.25 million are dependent on the drugs ie they feel a constant need to consume more and more drugs. The report also terms this as a “problem for the family” which substantiates the claim that families tend to abandon the drug addicts. It further states, “Three-quarters of opiate users interviewed reported a strong desire for treatment, but cited either a lack of access or an inability to afford treatment.”. Are they also including "Religion" Is The "Opium Of The Masses" in these statistics :mrgreen:
If there can be a National Action Plan against terrorism, why cannot be one there for this national affliction that kills far more than the former? We must educate, through curriculum or otherwise, both that how detrimental it is for us to consume drugs as well as to change our perspectives about how and why, scientifically, is it so difficult to quit drug consumption once it is pursued. We need more understanding and empathetic individuals, families and government to tackle this issue which, perhaps, still lingers on the periphery of our conscience.
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Paki Hajis ( the transgender kind !) On Their Way To Hajj :mrgreen:

Transgenders from Pakistan to head to Hajj in a historic first

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Ganja's Son-In- Law, Captain Safdar (Rt ) Alludes Imran Khan's Third Union As "Political Marriage"

Captain (r) Safdar’s suggestion to Shehbaz: Go for four marriages
Captain (r) Mohammad Safdar, the son-in-law of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, suggested to his uncle-in-law Punjab Chief Minister (CM) Shehbaz Sharif marry four times in accordance with Islam. Speaking to reporters outside an accountability court, he said, “Allah permits Muslims to marry four times. I advise uncle Shehbaz to marry four times.” The statement, made on a lighter note, was followed by support for Shehbaz after Safdar said that the Punjab CM did not marry anyone for political gains. ( for "bedding" purposes onlee :mrgreen: )
Safdar made these comments while talking about Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan’s marriage to his spiritual guide.
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Indian sites reporting pakis have been given time until June to sort out, otherwise from June it will be in grey list.
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abhijitm wrote:Indian sites reporting pakis have been given time until June to sort out, otherwise from June it will be in grey list.
There seems to be some confusion on this, but the below makes it clear.

Pakistan on watchlist for terror financing - Suhasini Haidar, Devesh Pandey, The Hindu
The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) Plenary on Friday decided to put Pakistan back on the “grey list,” subjecting it to direct monitoring and intense scrutiny by the International Co-operation Review Group (ICRG) on terror financing, pending further review in June.

The FATF decision was by consensus, after days of closed-door discussions within the 37-member group, sources said.

Although the nomination did not find a mention in the formal statement released by the global money laundering/terror-financing watchdog, diplomats and officials privy to the development confirmed it. Pakistan had been on the same list from 2012 to 2015.


Fresh report

Under a “Compliance Document,” Pakistan will be required to furnish a fresh report to the ICRG.

It will also undergo a review at the next Plenary in June, when it would be presented a full action plan on how it is expected to crack down on terror groups banned by the United Nations Security Council that operate on its soil, including the Jaish-e-Mohammed, the Lashkar-e-Taiba and affiliated groups. The move was pushed by four nominating countries: the United States, United Kingdom, Germany and France.
In mid-January, they had written to the FATF stating that even though Pakistan had an anti-money laundering/anti-terror funding regime in place, effectiveness of the implementation was inadequate. Some countries said Pakistan’s actions only followed recent FATF pressu- re, and it would be counter-productive to let it off the hook just when the pressure was yielding results.

Public rally

Meanwhile, a public rally by LeT chief Hafiz Saeed and the Khyber Pukhtunkhwa state’s decision to raise funding for Haqqani group-linked seminaries over the week didn’t help Pakistan’s case, said Western diplomats.

Earlier this week, Pakistan had claimed victory in the ongoing FATF meeting
, as a preliminary discussion in the ICRG failed to build a consensus on putting it again on the watch list, after China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and GCC countries objected to Pakistan’s nomination.

However, U.S. and Indian officials had called the claim “premature” and said that a final decision was still to come. Informed sources said behind the scenes, the U.S. worked hard to bring Saudi Arabia around, Germany worked on the GCC, while India was able to speak to Russia. According to the sources, China may have been incentivised to help because it had become Vice-Chair of the FATF committee, and would like to play a responsible role at the international grouping. At the end of the Plenary session, when the FATF Chair asked, there were no objections to the nomination of Pakistan, a move that could see it face financial strictures, and ratings downgrades by international banking and credit rating agencies until Islamabad carries out a full crackdown on terror groups. It was another tweet, this time from Pakistani Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal who thanked Turkey for “standing with Pakistan as one” and didn’t mention any others, that confirmed the final outcome.
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Look, Pakistan believes that everything boils down to simply image problem. There are dozens of incidents where it did not want a certain fact to be publicized because its image would be affected either domestically or externally. This FATF 'grey list' is perhaps one more case. Pakistan requested and some countries pleaded its case and China being at the Vice Chair helped and so the grey listing was not published formally.

This whole thing had been worked out earlier which the Pakistani Finance Minister 'exploited' to announce in a hurry a three month 'reprieve' because the next plenary is in June and he wanted to make it appear like the way he wanted. So, Pakistan 'managed' the image problem!

Usual Pakistani duplicity.
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SSridhar wrote:NIA to chargesheet former Pak. diplomat - S.Vijay Kumar, The Hindu
The National Investigation Agency (NIA) is likely to chargesheet former Pakistan diplomat Amir Zubair Siddiqui, Counsellor (Visa) at the Pakistan High Commission in Colombo, in a case of conspiracy to attack vital establishments in India.

The chargesheet will be filed at a special court for terror cases at Poonamallee
near here [Chennai] on Thursday.
More details on this.

U.S. inputs nail Pak. diplomat in terror plot - S.Vijay Kumar, The Hindu
Digital intelligence shared by U.S. security agencies was crucial in establishing the role of Amir Zubair Siddiqui, Counsellor (Visa) at the Pakistan High Commission in Sri Lanka, in the terror plot to blow up vital establishments in India.

The National Investigation Agency (NIA) on Thursday chargesheeted Mr. Siddiqui and two others in the alleged conspiracy to attack nuclear installations, defence establishments, the U.S. Consulate in Chennai, the Israeli Consulate in Bengaluru and ports.

Sources in the investigating agency told The Hindu that Thameem Ansari and Mohamed Zakir Hussain were the main agents hired by Mr. Siddiqui to gather details of the high-security establishments across the country. After their arrest, both the suspects confessed that the Pakistan diplomat was their handler and they transmitted videos/photographs of target locations to him.

However, the agency could not gather adequate evidence to name Mr. Siddiqui in the chargesheet.

“The NIA then initiated steps to seek the expertise of some foreign countries under the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty to extract digital evidence to prove the involvement of the Pakistan diplomat. Since visual elements were sent by e-mail and Facebook, we approached U.S Intelligence agencies through Interpol seeking their support in cracking the case,” a source said.


Modus operandi

The official said the agency was able to obtain extracts of the e-mail used to plot attacks in India.

“We also verified that the e-mail was accessed from an Internet Protocol (IP) address that was installed in the Pakistan Consulate in Colombo, Sri Lanka. The e-mail was created with the only objective of pursuing the crime and suspects in India and Sri Lanka knew the password. The modus operandi was to drop the sensitive information in the draft box,” the official said.

The plan was to smuggle in two Pakistan nationals to carry out the attacks using fake passport and visa. “Hussain was instructed to arrange for the fake documents and he even met the two suspects at an undisclosed location in Thailand. Ansari was instructed to arrange for Army uniform to enable the suspects to gain access to vital installations. He befriended a former Army officer in Thanjavur and managed to take photographs of a full Army uniform along with medals and shoes,” he said.


The NIA could not establish how Mr. Siddiqui used the maps, photographs and video clips of high-security establishments that were sent to him by e-mail.

India visit

NIA sources said Mr. Siddiqui visited Chennai, Mumbai and Kolkata after the terror module was busted. Details of the places he visited or the persons he met were under investigation. Instead of using the diplomatic passport, the suspect used a regular passport for his visit to India, the sources added.
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SSJi, Suhasini Haider, unlike her father SuSwamy, is a Paki pasand DDM journo, and so I place some faith in her report in the sense that if there was even a fig leaf offered to TSP, she would have spun it as a diplomatic failure for ModiJi. But that said, I am still confused as to why TSP's name is missing in the final communique? Pakis are basking in this technicality.
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Falijee wrote:"SUCH GUP" GOSSIP ON "PINKY - PIRNI"

Supernatural knowledge of hidden world, sure PM job, two more pregnancies in the works :mrgreen:


The Prophecy
We hear that The Great Khan’s new wife, now universally known as Pinky Pirni, has foretold that in order for The Prophecy to be complete, she and The Khan will soon have two sons. After this, she has prophesied, The Great Khan will ascend the throne, Takht-e-Islami Jamhooriya-e-Pakistan. We also asked a source in The Khan’s horde if Wife No. 2’s explosive allegations, soon to be revealed in a tell-all book, regarding the long-standing nature of The Khan’s relationship with Pinky Pirni are true. The source was reluctant to reply, saying that he was petrified of being discovered, given the Pirni’s ilm-e-ghaib, supernatural knowledge of the Hidden World.
The Burqa wali madam is 50 years old and hence would have reached menopause. No chance of those two kids from Immy the Dimmy, unless they use surrogagcy. But wait isnt that Haram in Malsic culture? Maybe jinns will help the army stooge and it will become Halal. :D

Of course the above is assuming the now 66 years old Talibani apologist is not firing blank rounds.
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CRamS wrote: . . I am still confused as to why TSP's name is missing in the final communique? Pakis are basking in this technicality.
CRS, as I said, " . . . Pakistan requested and some countries pleaded its case [probably KSA & Turkey] and China being at the Vice Chair helped and so the grey listing was not published formally."

Terroristan should have pleaded and begged for some leniency and the above three countries interceded on its behalf. Terroristan always does this. Mrs IG was thus deceived by ZAB at Simla.
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Of course the above is assuming the now 66 years old Talibani apologist is not firing blank rounds.
Never underestimate men below 70 years in this department especially those eating watermelons and oranges on a daily basis :-D:-P :P
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FATF to put Pakistan on grey list for terror financing in 90 days. Here’s how it will impact Islamabad

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/f ... 2018-02-24
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Careem Driver ( AKA "Paki Uber" ) Killed In Isloo By Unknown Assailants !

Careem captain murdered, looted in Islamabad’s sector G-13
ISLAMABAD: A 26-years-old Careem captain Junaid Mustafa was killed by unidentified assailants in here on Thursday morning, right after dropping off a ride in sector G-13.The shocking homicide was also followed by the gunmen taking away his car and other belongings.Junaid, who was a Rawalpindi resident, had been driving for the taxi-hailing service Careem for the past three months. According to a report by a local news source, he had picked up unidentified person(s) from F-11 Markaz in Islamabad at around 2:35 am on February 22. No drop-off location was added by the customer, however, the ride ended only three minutes later at 2.58 am after travelling a distance of 11 11 kilometres.
He had been shot in his chest and left arm multiple times with a 30-bore pistol, while his right hand and arm were also injured.The gunmen not only took away his Suzuki WagonR and its registration book, but also two mobile phones.Golra police have registered a murder case against the unidentified assailants but have not come across any clue as yet. IMO, Pakis are not ready for such "taxi services". They need to "clean up" their act nationally and internationally :mrgreen:
Meanwhile, Careem, in another statement issued through Twitter, also demanded that the cities are made safer. Mere "demanding" is not going to do the needful !
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Pakistan's "Image" Remains Intact As Per This Formal FATF Document :mrgreen:

Official statement by FATF, contains no mention of Pakistan :D
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Falijee wrote:Pakistan's "Image" Remains Intact As Per This Formal FATF Document :mrgreen:

Official statement by FATF, contains no mention of Pakistan :D
So are they on the grey list, or not? Too much confusion around.
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Ganja's Hair Heir Apparent Is Going To Be Feted This Time In Sargodha :D

Maryam to be welcomed with 21-tola gold crown in Sargodha today
Preparations have been completed to welcome the former first daughter. At the event, Mayor of Sargodha Malik Naveed Aslam will present Maryam Nawaz with a 21-tola gold crown.
Earlier, local traders of Sheikhupural and workers of Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) welcomed her with a 55-gram gold crown. What is the quid pro qua. When is the turn of "LaWhore" coming up or is that Immy territory :twisted:
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PPP Senator Dares To Question Allotment Of Land To Raheel Sharif :eek:

PPP senator questions allotment of 88 acres land to ex-army chief Raheel Sharif
SLAMABAD – Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Senator has raised questions regarding allotment of 88 acres of land to former army chief General (retd) Raheel Sharif, demanding :roll: to know under which law the procedure was done.
No answer was given to his repeated questions regarding the legality of the allotment, Babar said, adding that the only answer was that all this had been done in accordance with the Constitution of Pakistan.He went on to say that the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) on Wednesday arrested a bureaucrat in Lahore for allegedly transferring land.
However, Senate Chairman Raza Rabbani did not give permission for further discussion on the issue and asked Babar that he might raise his question in the National Assembly.
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Good to see European press not as usual skirting this issue and being upfront about the menace that TSP has become at global level .

Pakistan avoids global terror watchlist – for now

http://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-avoids-gl ... a-42723773
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Rajeev wrote:Good to see European press not as usual skirting this issue and being upfront about the menace that TSP has become at global level
The German media, especially Der Spiegel, have consistently unmasked the Pakistani duplicity.
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Rajeev wrote:Good to see European press not as usual skirting this issue and being upfront about the menace that TSP has become at global level
The German media, especially Der Spiegel, have consistently unmasked the Pakistani duplicity.
Meanwhile, officially, the German defence attache in full uniform (along with five DAs from other nations) attended a briefing by ISPR at the LOC and visited the "injured" at a local hospital.

Defence attaches of six countries visit LoC :roll:

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Defence attachés of six key countries visited the restive Line of Control (LoC) in Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) on Friday to get first-hand knowledge about the situation in the wake of incessant ceasefire violations by Indian troops.
The diplomats interacted with victims of ceasefire violations to learn about their sufferings, the ISPR said, adding they were also apprised about the activities undertaken by Pakistan Army to provide relief to the AJK population.
Such horrendous acts, he said, constituted terrible crimes against humanity and necessitated immediate intervention of the United Nations and big powers. :P
https://www.dawn.com/news/1391341
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Re: Immy Marriage . Cricket anal-ogy put to good use :twisted:

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Here's the unofficial scoop on the FataFut List matter. Got it from a Frenchie at the local paanwalla.

Placement in a "Watchlist" is a provisional step towards placement on a Gray list. Why the Watch list provisio, hain, I asked mon ami? Since the last time the pakis were on the Gray List (2015) from where they skated out by fudging data and shifting the deck chairs on the Titanic, the strict conditions and performance requirements for a nation on the Gray List have become far, far more stringent. Their chini bilathels and al saud birathers recognized this and, in backroom diplomacy, were able to convince the main players at FataFut to give the pakis some breathing room. Three months is all they got. FataFut meets three times a year. In exchange they (the two remaining friends) would not veto the provisional step. Turkey rebelled because it fears the same Damocles Sword on its own neck in a few years from now. The west is miffed with Turkey.

Hence, no official pronouncement of putting pakhanistan on a provisional "Watch List", because such a list does not exist.

So, what would a paki do in these, yet again, trying circumstances? Why not do the expected, again, but with more finesse?

My bet is that the pakis, over the next three months, will collude with the leaderans of LeTs, JuDs, Haqqanis and other dozens of acronymized terror groups and agree on an unofficial arrangement for alternate back door financing, temporary closure of charities, some highly publicized arrests and short term comfortable incarcerations of their leaders, a few number 2's dead, and temporary relocation of the rest of the leadership to "greener" pastures. Also, expect a few highly publicized attacks on paki schools, sporting events, and even the GHQ. Hey, isnt PSL scheduled for a finale sortie in LaWhore in the next thirty days? Pakjabi khush hua!

And, dont forget the soft power approach. Pakis will, of course, keep harping on the $6,000 Billion-Trillion that they have spent and or lost due to terror from the east and the west. Even suggest that India should be on the FataFut list. Then, hold more of those Lakme fashion shows and send out their women ambassadors to the far corners of the globe to present the paki case of being - ah! so liberal, and being on the FataFut list would bring in the radicals.

Sort of like - Après nous le déluge (as espoused by Waist Bajwa in a conference in Munich recently).

This would certainly draw attention of the six hundred defence attaches.
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