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Pakistan must prosecute Hafiz Saeed, says US
The United States (US) has on Friday reiterated its demand that Pakistan must prosecute Hafiz Saeed, the head of Jamat ud-Daawa, who is accused of having masterminded the Mumbai attacks in November 2008.
Pakistan had been sent a message that Hafiz Saeed must be ‘prosecuted to the fullest extent of law’.
"to the fullest extent of law". There's the loophole. Baki law falls woefully short of that "fullest extent".

https://dailytimes.com.pk/184389/pakist ... d-says-us/
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Heavy casualties likely on Pakistani side as India responds to ceasefire violations.
Four mortar positions on Pakistani side — from where Rangers were firing 82 mm and 60 mm mortars — are damaged, they said. A defence position in a farmhouse behind Harpal and Jagwal village, too, has been hit, they added.

A senior BSF official said that by the intensity of their retaliation and the number of ambulances moving on the Pakistani side, the “casualty across the border appears to be very high…somewhere between 20-25”.
According to ANI, MoS PMO Jitendra Singh, after meeting the civilians injured in ceasefire violations, said, “All injured are being taken care of. For the first time, even though Pakistan is up to its mischief as it has always been, the kind of retaliatory action from Indian side was not seen for decades together.”
Ack Thoo - Congress Sonia and Manmohan.
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While philandering Patraeus is technically correct, the statement though IMO is condescending. Nobody in India, except TSPians in mufti and equal equal traitors, are looking for a certificate of clean chit from US honchos. What India is looking for is that US use its enormous leverage to bring TSP to its knees for its terrorist thuggery, principally against India and Afghanistan, and to some extent, USA.
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anupmisra wrote:
More good news (which usually comes in "threes") on the ba(w)kistani fiscal front:

Pakistan's foreign reserves slide continues

https://www.dawn.com/news/1383863/pakis ... -continues
Don't the pakis use very creating accounting and reporting to inflate their Forex numbers? I guess no amount of padding will make a moth eaten, spider infested bank account better..

One must also provide India's forex numbers (Like Peregrine ji does) to prove that India and Pak are one and the same..

Pakistan Forex : $ 13.7 billion
India Forex : $ ~ 414 billion

Pakistan should quickly put out the begging bowl and claim that the Forex reserves are now growing..
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Pakistan's ace in poker match with US: Afghan air routes

WASHINGTON: As bad as President Donald Trump describes US-Pakistani ties today, they can get far worse.

Over 16 years that included hundreds of deadly US drone strikes, Osama bin Laden's killing on Pakistani soil and accusations Pakistan helps insurgents that kill Americans, the reluctant allies never reached one point of no return: Pakistan closing the air routes to Afghanistan.

It's an action that could all but cripple the US-backed military fight against the Taliban. It could also be tantamount to Pakistan going to war with the United States.

Even if such a step is seen as unlikely by most officials and observers, Pakistan's ability to shape the destiny of America's longest war is a reminder of how much leverage the country maintains at a time Trump is suspending hundreds of millions of dollars in military assistance.

"There's some suggestion that we have all of the cards in our hands," said Richard Olson, a former US ambassador to Pakistan. "But we don't. The leverage is strong on the Pakistan side as well and arguably stronger than our side."

Trump's re-commitment of US forces to the fight in Afghanistan makes the stakes high for his administration. The top US diplomat for South Asia, Alice Wells, made a low-key visit to Islamabad this week, suggesting both sides want to prevent a breach in ties. Pakistan's cooperation is needed not only to reduce violence in its northern neighbor. It's also critical to any hope of a political settlement with the Afghan Taliban after decades of conflict.

Defense secretary Jim Mattis has said the US doesn't expect Pakistan to cut off supply routes. Even so, the US is seeking out alternatives, a senior administration official said, without elaborating on what those routes might be. The Pentagon wouldn't discuss the issue, citing operational security, other than to say military planners develop "multiple supply chain contingencies" to sustain their mission.

The administration official, who wasn't authorized to comment by name and demanded anonymity, said it would be "very difficult" but not impossible for the US to get military equipment into Afghanistan if the Pakistan route is shut down.

Restrictions limit what types of supplies can flow through the Northern Distribution Network in Central Asia, set up during the Obama administration amid concerns about relying solely on Pakistan.

Pakistan has cut overland access before. When a US airstrike killed 24 Pakistani soldiers at the Afghan-Pakistan frontier in late 2011, months after the US commando raid that killed bin Laden, Pakistan blocked border crossings into Afghanistan.

The decision sunk US-Pakistani relations to a post-9/11 low point. Supply trucks that trundle across desert into Afghanistan's southern Kandahar province or into Nangarhar via the mountainous Khyber Pass ground to a halt. Hundreds of containers shipped from the US or the Gulf were left stranded in the Pakistani port of Karachi until mid-2012.

For the US, truck and rail costs inflated by about 50 percent, said David Sedney, a former Pentagon official who organized the alternative northern routes. He said deliveries by air cost three times as much or more.

But the saga, resolved through a US apology, also exposed the limits of Pakistan's leverage, Sedney said. Pakistan's own economy was hurt, notably the military-dominated trucking industry. And the Afghan war effort, which was then supporting more than 70,000 US troops, compared with around 16,000 now, endured.

That was perhaps the result of Pakistan never closing the air corridor into Afghanistan, which US pilots call "the boulevard." It's essential for ferrying ammunition and weapons for US and Afghan forces, and waging war. US intelligence flights and combat missions use it when taking off from US bases in the Persian Gulf or from aircraft carriers in the Indian Ocean.

Since closing Pakistan's airspace would hinder America's ability to defend its forces in Afghanistan, Olson, the former ambassador, said the US might regard such action as a "casus belli," or grounds for war. Other former US officials echoed that assessment.

"From what I can tell we don't actually have any serious alternative," said Daniel Markey, a South Asia expert at the John Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.

Sedney said the Northern Distribution Network, which fell out of use after most US forces were withdrawn from Afghanistan by late 2014, could be restored with astute US diplomacy. Nations such as Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan all have been used before for transporting mostly nonlethal supplies. Poor US relations with Russia could make the task trickier, however. Moscow wields significant influence over these former Soviet states.

Pakistan is weighing options carefully. The suspension of around $1.2 billion in assistance and Trump's accusations of Pakistani "lies and deceit" for allowing Taliban havens have stirred anger and demands from opposition party leader Imran Khan for both land and air links to be cut.

Pakistan's ambassador in Washington, Aizaz Chaudhry, indicated such steps weren't imminent, urging greater US cooperation on counterterrorism. But he warned that further downward spiraling in US-Pakistani ties could create a situation in which "everything will be on table."

Chaudhry cited Pakistan's longstanding complaints that its efforts have been unappreciated, claiming that most leaders of the Haqqani network - which the US hopes to eradicate - have fled to Afghanistan. Critics say Pakistan's military only targets insurgents threatening Pakistan itself.

"The problem is we have a porous open border and it's like a revolving door," Chaudhry told the Associated Press. "These elements tend to come back, and travel back and forth, but there is no organized presence or safe havens inside Pakistan."

Republicans and Democrats in America aren't sold. Lawmakers have urged targeted financial sanctions against Pakistani intelligence officials linked to militants, and for Pakistan to lose its "non-NATO ally" status that offers preferential access to US military technology. Zalmay Khalilzad, a former US ambassador in Kabul, is among hawks advocating Pakistan be declared a state sponsor of terrorism, unless it cooperates.

But others who've worked with the Pakistanis fear coercion could backfire at a time they're hedging their bets, unsure America will win in Afghanistan.

A tacit Pakistani alliance with the Taliban will appear "more important to them than ever as we turn once again from an ally into an adversary," said Ryan Crocker, who was US ambassador in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

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So ground work is been prepared for a US down hill skiing....

So a global superpower who relies on a untrusted ally for supply route, does even imagine that Pakistan which has done it before... can close it again?

US did not dump fuel and ammo into afghanistan for such a contingency? The drama will never stop.
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anupmisra wrote:
More good news (which usually comes in "threes") on the ba(w)kistani fiscal front:

Pakistan's foreign reserves slide continues

https://www.dawn.com/news/1383863/pakis ... -continues
sudhan wrote:
Don't the pakis use very creating accounting and reporting to inflate their Forex numbers? I guess no amount of padding will make a moth eaten, spider infested bank account better..

One must also provide India's forex numbers (Like Peregrine ji does) to prove that India and Pak are one and the same..

Pakistan Forex : $ 13.7 billion
India Forex : $ ~ 414 billion

Pakistan should quickly put out the begging bowl and claim that the Forex reserves are now growing..
sudhan Ji :

Here are the bare facts about Terroristan’s Foreign Exchange Holdings :
After debt repayments in coming months, SBP’s own net reserves will be a mere $4.5 billion - December 9, 2017

This amount is also shown part of both the central bank and commercial banks’ reserves, according to sources.

As of November 2017, the SBP’s official foreign currency reserves were $12.66 billion including $5.8 billion worth of currency swaps and forward contracts.Despite showing $5.8 billion as part of its own reserves, the SBP has also included the same amount in the total $6.01 billion reserves held by commercial banks.

By excluding $5.8 billion of short-term loans, the net usable reserves with the commercial banks stand at only $200 million. Out of $5.8 billion, $1.68 billion was obtained for one month, $2.46 billion for up to three months and $1.7 billion for up to one year, according to the SBP.

“This is clearly double counting of $5.8 billion. In principle, it should have excluded this sum from the commercial banks’ reserves,” said Dr Ashfaque Hasan Khan, former director general of Debt of Ministry of Finance.

As of November 2017, the SBP’s official foreign currency reserves were $12.66 billion including $5.8 billion worth of currency swaps and forward contracts. Despite showing $5.8 billion as part of its own reserves, the SBP has also included the same amount in the total $6.01 billion reserves held by commercial banks.

By excluding $5.8 billion of short-term loans, the net usable reserves with the commercial banks stand at only $200 million. Out of $5.8 billion, $1.68 billion was obtained for one month, $2.46 billion for up to three months and $1.7 billion for up to one year, according to the SBP.

“This is clearly double counting of $5.8 billion. In principle, it should have excluded this sum from the commercial banks’ reserves,” said Dr Ashfaque Hasan Khan, former director general of Debt of Ministry of Finance.


The Latest Figures are SBP : US$ 13.6990 Billion, Commercial Banks US$ 6.0725, Total Foreign Exchange US$ 19.7715

They should be SBP : US$ 13.6990 Billion, Commercial Banks US$ 0.2750 Billion, Total Foreign Exchange US$ 13.9715 or SBP : US$ 7.8190 Billion, Commercial Banks US$ 6.0725, Total Foreign Exchange US$ 13.9715. Sources said that the net foreign currency reserves of the central bank would stand close to $4.5 billion even after including $2.5 billion that Pakistan borrowed last month from international debt markets

In other words if “Correctness is Invoked" then the SBP Forex Reserves will be US$ 2.5 Billion or so!

Finally to the Indian Figures :

Reserve Bank of India - Foreign Exchange Reserves as on 12-01-2018

Foreign Exchange Held by R. B. I. US$ 413.8254 Billion - Increase Over Previous Week US$ 2.7008 Billion

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Peregrine wrote:
anupmisra wrote: Pakistan should quickly put out the begging bowl and claim that the Forex reserves are now growing..
This is clearly double counting of $5.8 billion. In other words if “Correctness is Invoked" then the SBP Forex Reserves will be US$ 2.5 Billion or so!
See, I don't know why SDRE kufars don't get it. As long as allah is watching over ba(w)kistan and its TFTA citizens, and as long as there even one hand gun around in that benighted land, ba(w)kistan can never run out of money or lenders or donors or johns. It does not matter how little or how much foreign exchange the baki banks have, as long as they can threaten to commit hara-kiri with a gun pointed to their collective heads while sitting on their primed aitimi bums, the world will keep being a donor, a lender or a john (not necessarily in that order).

Double counting may be an "axact" sialkoti science and as long as the baki awaam believes in it, why should the opinion of others matter? Especiallym if they are not the lenders, donors or johns to the bakis?
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nam wrote:So ground work is been prepared for a US down hill skiing....

So a global superpower who relies on a untrusted ally for supply route, does even imagine that Pakistan which has done it before... can close it again?

US did not dump fuel and ammo into afghanistan for such a contingency? The drama will never stop.
nam Ji :

Here is the Reason why the USA started arming Terroristan
MONTHLY ARCHIVES: MAY 2005

US Grand Strategy for South Asia - The Nation (Pakistan),May 25, 2005
In 1954, soon after signing up Pakistan as an American ally, U.S. Secretary of State of John Foster Dulles tried to persuade legendary columnist Walter Lippmann of the value of his new strategic partner. Dulles told Lippmann, “I’ve got to get some real fighting men into the south of Asia. The only Asians who can really fight are the Pakistanis. That’s why we need them in the alliance. We could never get along without the Gurkhas.”

“But Foster,”
Lippmann countered, “the Gurkhas aren’t Pakistanis, they’re Indians.” Of course, Lippmann was also wrong as the Gurkhas are from Nepal
but that is less important than the lack of knowledge of the U.S. Secretary of State. “Well,” responded Dulles, unperturbed by such details, “they may not be Pakistanis but they’re Moslems.”[/b]

“No, I’m afraid they’re not Moslems, either; they’re Hindus,” Lippmann stated.“No matter,” the secretary of state retorted and proceeded to lecture Lippmann for half an hour on the virtues of SEATO in stemming communism in Asia, writes a biographer of Walter Lippmann.
You Tube Presentation – Pakistan has Gurkhas : 01 Min 00 Sec to 02 Min 10 Sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pedRqGBpElc



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Pakistan ‘faces $11.43b damages claims’ in Reko Diq mining case
ISLAMABAD: The Public Accounts Committee (PAC) has observed that Pakistan faces $11.43 billion damages claims in Reko Diq mining case in international courts due to corrupt practices and inefficiencies of successive governments of Balochistan.
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Pakistan rejects allegations of Haqqani network, Afghan Taliban safe havens
Of course, as expected. But, read on...the more this idjit opens his mouth the more he commits perjury.
Pakistan’s Ambassador to United States Aizaz Chaudhry, in an interview with BBC Urdu, has said that Pakistan wants to send Haqqani network and Taliban back to Afghanistan so they can participate in national politics there.
:shock:
We are pressurizing them to return to Afghanistan because it is their homeland
:shock: :shock:
if the United States has any doubt and have any information they must share with Islamabad because Pakistan itself wanted to eliminate them
Send them back to Afghanistan? So they are currently in ba(w)kistan? 8). Read on...100% marks for paki-logic
He went on to state that according to the information acquired, these banned outfits have 43 percent occupation of Afghani land. Hence, it is needless that they stay in Pakistan. :rotfl:


https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/27048 ... afe-havens
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Indeed globalisation according to each quom's genius:

India,





Meanwhile back at the bedlam,



https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/25764 ... ser-janjua


Definitely, these are two separate peoples.
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US, Pakistan clash at UN over Afghanistan - The Hindu
The United States urged Pakistan on Friday not to give sanctuary to “terrorist organizations” and Pakistan demanded that the Trump administration address safe havens inside Afghanistan and its income from the narcotics trade.

The exchange took place Friday at a Security Council meeting on the issue of Afghanistan’s relations with its Central Asia neighbours and the link between peace and security.

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan said the United States can’t work with Pakistan if it continued to give sanctuary to terrorist organizations and needed to stop this and join efforts to resolve the Afghan conflict.

Pakistan’s U.N. Ambassador Maleeha Lodi countered that Afghanistan and its partners, especially the U.S., need to address “challenges inside Afghanistan rather than shift the onus for ending the conflict onto others.”

“Those who imagine sanctuaries outside need a reality check,” she stressed.


After stopping of military aid

The exchange followed the Trump administration’s announcement this month that it was suspending military aid to Pakistan until it takes decisive action against militants.

In August, the U.S. infuriated Pakistan by accusing it of providing a haven for extremist groups that carry out attacks in neighbouring Afghanistan. Pakistan repeatedly has said it is acting against Taliban insurgents and members of the Haqqani militant group.

Armed clashes in Afghanistan in the past year were the highest in a decade and civilian casualties remained at near-record levels. More than 2 million people were directly affected by the conflict in 2017, with some 4,48,000 having to abandon their homes to save their lives.

Mr. Sullivan told the council that an Afghan-led, Afghan-owned approach to peace, with firm international support for Afghan security forces, “will make clear to the Taliban that victory cannot be won on the battlefield a solution is and must be political.”

But he said, “We must recognize the reality that while the Afghan government has been adamant about its interests in initiating peace talks with the Taliban, there has been no reciprocal interest on the part of the Taliban.”

“That must change,” Mr. Sullivan stressed.

Backing Taliban in IS fight “is pernicious”


Mr. Sullivan also criticized unnamed countries for supporting the Taliban in the name of fighting the Islamic State extremist group.

“This approach is misguided or worse pernicious,” he said. “The United States believes that the two are not linked. We can and must fight ISIS in Afghanistan while ensuring the Taliban come to the negotiating table.”

Ms. Lodhi said that after 17 years of war it’s “more than evident” that neither the Afghan government nor the Taliban can win militarily.


“The continuing resort to military force and escalation of the conflict without an accompanying political and diplomatic strategy ... will produce more violence, not a political solution,” she said. “It is not enough to pay lip service to a negotiated settlement and then do little other than exercise a strategy of force and coercion.”

Mr. Sullivan, Ms. Lodhi and Afghanistan’s Deputy Foreign Minister Hekmat Khalil Karzai did not mention the U.S. suspension of aid to Pakistan.

But Mr. Karzai said: “We are pleased to note that the imperative of addressing the problem of regional terrorist sanctuaries and safe havens is now recognized more than ever before.”
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PCB in a fix as defaulting franchises put third PSL edition in jeopardy

Solution : Pakistan Cricket Board has been advised to have the Defaulting Franchises to apply to the IMF for a Loan. :rotfl:

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Madam's daughter at it once again !

The cost of criticizing the military in Pakistan - Imaan Mazari-Hazir, Daily Times
Martin Luther King said, “We must build dikes of courage to hold back the flood of fear”. In Pakistan, those journalists, activists and students who have chosen to act with great courage to criticize the unlawful conduct of the military, vis-à-vis illegal abductions, torture, murder, oppression and corruption, find themselves and their families in the midst of horrifying and dangerous circumstances.

In the last few months alone, almost every major newspaper has covered stories from Pakistan of journalists, bloggers and students either being abducted and tortured or beaten in broad daylight by “unknown” assailants. This is not the first time Pakistan has been confronted with the phenomenon of enforced disappearances. After all, under military dictator Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan agreed to abduct, torture and effectively sell its citizens to the United States under the policy of extraordinary renditions. *

Investigative journalist Taha Siddiqui was the most recent target of an attempted abduction in the Federal Capital. En route to the airport to catch a flight to London, Siddiqui was dragged out of a cab, beaten to a pulp and threatened by around a dozen armed men. His passport, phone, laptop and other personal belongings were confiscated by the armed men but miraculously, Siddiqui, through his determination to live, managed to escape. What was the crime for which he was meted out such unlawful treatment? One need only scroll through his social media posts and articles in local and international papers to see he was one of the most vocal critics of the Pakistani military establishment.

Just a few weeks earlier, a social media activist, Raza Khan, was abducted in Lahore following a meeting organized by him to discuss the right-wing takeover of the capital by Islamic fundamentalists. Last year, at least four human rights activists/bloggers (namely, Waqas Goraya, Asim Saeed, Salman Haider and Ahmed Raza Naseer) were abducted, detained and tortured by the security agencies. What all these people have in common is the choice of institution they criticized: the military establishment.

In all these cases of abductions, Pakistan saw the same rhetoric we have been hearing over the last many decades to justify unlawful conduct by state agencies. Paid social media accounts and suspect journalists with ties to the establishment have done everything in their power to launch dangerous and slanderous campaigns against all these individuals. The four activists abducted in 2017 were accused of blasphemy – a charge for which no trial is ever needed: there is an automatic death sentence by the masses (as we saw in the case of Mashal Khan, a university student falsely accused of blasphemy who was murdered on his campus). No action is ever taken against those who level such false allegations, nor are the mobs who engage in such violence ever punished by the State.

With regard to Siddiqui, while he has thus far been able to avoid the fate of those who are accused of blasphemy, he has been accused of staging his own abduction allegedly to seek asylum in the West. The persons who launch such vicious attacks would have you believe that every single critic of the military is either foreign-funded or has some ulterior motive. Some have even gone so far as to argue that the State has a right to illegally abduct those who criticize it. Those who dissent in Pakistan are not only punished for dissenting at the hand of state agencies: they are also ridiculed, mocked, ostracized and threatened by society either for surviving the ordeal inflicted upon them or for speaking up against such tactics.

The cost of speaking up against the military in Pakistan, it now seems, is too high a cost for many to bear. Threats to the lives of dissenters and their families are not only common but those who so threaten do so with complete impunity. There are no consequences. In fact, these attacks occur on such a regular basis now that it has become crystal clear that the State’s security agencies fear no accountability for these violations of the Constitution and international law.

The Committee for the Protection of Journalists has deemed Pakistan one of the most dangerous places for journalists. One would just like to highlight that the practice of enforced disappearances doesn’t only affect journalists but includes as a potential target literally any individual who dares to criticize the Pakistani military establishment. We live in strangely ironic times: on one hand, the military establishment leeches off the budget and claims it is one of the most superior intelligence agencies in the world, while, on the other hand, such abductions and murders are rampant. Either the State is complicit, which is perhaps the most likely scenario, or it is simply incompetent, which is just as alarming. Either way, the people of Pakistan deserve answers. Will anyone who speaks up against the misuse of authority by the military establishment be subjected to enforced disappearances and torture? Will those who are lucky enough to survive ever see justice being done against those who perpetrated these heinous attacks against them?

In October last year, senior journalist, Ahmad Noorani (another vocal critic of the establishment) was beaten in broad daylight by “unknown” attackers. Following the attack, the Director General of the Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) sent the journalist a bouquet of flowers and voiced his “full support” to “catch culprits and bring them to justice”. Operating with complete impunity has allowed the security agencies to not only violate the law but act like a callous mafia that first attempts to murder people and then sends them a box of chocolates which might as well come with a note that says, “we hope you have learnt your lesson”. When has action ever been taken against those involved in these enforced disappearances? Many of these “missing persons” remain missing – their families have no idea whether they are dead or alive.

We deserve better. Pakistan deserves better. If someone has committed a crime, the State must produce them before a court of law but this culture of impunity has to end.

The writer is a lawyer pursuing her Masters in International Law at the University of Vienna.
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Ghani’s truly explosive claims - Daily Times - Editorial

Over the last 16 years, the American military misadventure has brought with it a price-tag of one trillion dollars, with a human cost to Washington of around 2,400 lives. Yet the most damning verdict comes from President Ashraf Ghani himself: without US cash and capabilities neither the Afghan National Army (ANA) nor the government itself will last six months. Quite the slap in the face for the American war machine whose generals still talk about the opportunity cost if the mission were to fail. We hate to be the harbinger of bad news but, it seems to us, that is a case of Game Over in Kabul.

Nevertheless, it appears that the US will continue splashing the cash on the quagmire they tell everyone that they are so desperate to exit. It doesn’t have much choice given what’s riding on this. After all, it won’t do much for American street cred to have the most sophisticated military in the world defeated by a motley crew of some 21 extremist groups, some of whom may or may have ties to the Pakistani security establishment. The same goes for NATO. The Afghan experiment was its first non-European mission. Though, admittedly, the Alliance hasn’t really looked back since it got a little smarter in Libya and Syria by arming local rebels to make it easier to wash off the blood from its hands when it decides to walk away from those unwinnable wars, while declaring: it wasn’t us.

And whether the US realises it or not, President Ghani’s mother of all bombshells has inadvertently strengthened Pakistan’s hand in its militant-mainstreaming designs. For American military might has failed to secure our western border after all this time. Just as it has left Iraq in turmoil. And it is the same story elsewhere in the Middle East. Ghani’s claims, which are truly explosive (Imran Khan take note) underscore how crucial it is to get the Taliban to the negotiating table. Indeed, this is something the US has been desperately pushing for. What this might mean for the Afghan parliamentary elections that have been rescheduled to take place around a week before ours, in six months’ time, is anyone’s guess. But it might not be so farfetched a scenario to find that Washington supports over there what it doesn’t over here. For we all know how much stock the US puts in the ballot box; even while the electorate risks life and limb to give everyone the purple finger. Therefore we shouldn’t be overly surprised if we see a fast-track mainstreaming project taking place next door.

Yet if Pakistan were smart, it would reach out to India. Because regardless of how accurate or otherwise Ghani’s claims may be – they give the US good reason not to go anywhere. And by suspending our military assistance it is essentially having us pick up part of the tab for the Afghan conflict of its own making. And it is doing the same thing when it asks New Delhi to contribute economically to Kabul. This is pure (unstable) genius on the part of the Americans. Really, we have to ask, what better impetus could there be to push two arch rivals back to the negotiating table?

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Peregrine wrote:PCB in a fix as defaulting franchises put third PSL edition in jeopardy

Solution : Pakistan Cricket Board has been advised to have the Defaulting Franchises to apply to the IMF for a Loan.
as many as five out of the total six franchises have failed to clear their dues with the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) despite the expiry of the given deadline of Nov 15, 2017
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Ba(w)kistan is child-rape "capital" of the world. This accounts for those cases that are reported. My guess is that 95% or more go unreported.

Lahore saw highest number of child rape cases in Punjab in 2016-17: report
In two years, 1,297 cases of child rape were reported in Punjab...1,045 were cases of sexual assault against boys
https://www.dawn.com/news/1384159/lahor ... -17-report
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Swine flu spreads its tentacles in Lahore
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1384131/swine ... -in-lahore
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Spinning it, big time. Lets count the number of ways the baki awaam is being fed these dreams, shall we?

Pakistan joins Trillion Dollar Markets Club

Here's the full "Gotta feel excited, doncha?" article (with the underscored parts):
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has been made a member of Trillion Dollar Markets Club. Members of the Trillion Dollar Markets Club are countries whose economies, measured by GDP on a purchasing power parity basis in current dollars, have grown larger than one trillion dollars.

The collective purchasing power of consumers in these countries is estimated to be in excess of one trillion dollars. Based on October 2017 IMF/World Bank estimates, Pakistan’s economy is believed to have grown to $1.056 trillion.

According to Federal Secretary for Trade Younis Dhagga, Pakistan’s economy is only the 25th economy in the world to have achieved this key milestone. It was the only country to do so in 2017.
Now, here are the obvious "distortions":

1. Lie #1: It is not a formal club. Its an unofficial tally. One does not fill out a form, apply for its membership and join it. One is certainly not "invited" to join this "club". Ergo, ba(w)kistan was not "made" a member.

2. Lie #2: Trillion $ economy rankings in this "club" are based on nominal GDPs, and not GDPs based on PPP. http://www.businessdictionary.com/defin ... -club.html

3. Lie #3: Baki economy is "believed" to be a trillion $ economy based on PPP. Is that from the cooked books from the accountants at Sialkoti-R-Us? All other conclusions based on these faulty presumptions. What will happen when the baki rupee falls by another ten percent in the next two months? Hain?

4. Lie #4: World Bank estimates date back to October 2017 which are usually based on figures provided by the national governments earlier in the year. This WB date predates the recently concluded census, which itself was an exercise in fraud and deceit.

So, pakilurks, cancel that ticker tape parade on Djinnah Avenue.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/270616 ... rkets-club
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Hopeless Canadians.

Love beyond borders: Canadian woman converts, marries Pakistani internet lover
A Canadian woman came all the way to Pakistan in order to tie the knot with her long-term online lover who she met on social networking website Facebook.
“I proposed her and asked her to marry me in Pakistan. To which she agreed and after converting to Islam, we both married each other.”
Qaiser had previously shared with me about Pakistan’s culture...
Did "qaiser" tell her about his..er...extended family?

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https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/27091 ... rnet-lover
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Peregrine wrote:PCB in a fix as defaulting franchises put third PSL edition in jeopardy

Solution : Pakistan Cricket Board has been advised to have the Defaulting Franchises to apply to the IMF for a Loan. :rotfl:

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Better solution would be to put the PSL as part of CPEC! (See-Pak was the solution for all problems in Bakistan).
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China is their one source "mai-baap, meri-maa, ham-saya, hamara rakhwala" solution to every problem and SeePack is the dirt road that leads to it. Pakis are knowingly playing this shrewd game without realizing that china is not like the west. There is no compassion in the chini hearts. They will exact their pound of flesh and more.
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Enemies joining hands together in hatching conspiracies against Pakistan will always fail: Air Chief
A unique ceremony was held here at PAF Museum to pay tribute to Air Commodore (Retd) Sattar Alvi, a renowned war veteran of 1974 Arab-Israel war. He shot down an Israeli Air Force Mirage aircraft during an aerial combat in Syria. In this ceremony he presented flying coverall (suit) of deceased Israeli pilot (Capt Lutz) to PAF Museum. :evil:
He termed the flying coverall of the deceased Israeli pilot as a ‘War Trophy’
In 1967 and 1973 Arab- Israel wars, our air force had participated with valour
This is the ideological state made in the name of Allah and nobody dare to cast an evil eye on it
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Sheikh Mujibur Rahman

One had thought that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman had been effectively erased from our political dictionary. Mentioned by a former prime minister as warning against the undemocratic consequences of his ouster and fiercely resisted by the prime ministerial hopefuls, the name brings back memories of what the PPP’s foundation documents described as ‘internal colonialism’ perpetrated in our early decades. The Mujib phenomenon was not born in 1970. His six points were the culmination of years of relentless neglect and discrimination.

The seeds of exclusion were sown early by the declaration of Urdu as national language. This was followed by the creation of one unit by merging the western provinces and renaming of East Bengal as East Pakistan. Despite larger population of East Pakistan, parity in representation was imposed at the national legislature. Population was also disregarded in regard to the distribution formula of the federal divisible pool of taxes. There was gross under-representation in bureaucracy and military. The bureaucratic-authoritarian state under the prolonged rule of Field Marshal Ayub Khan intensified the alienation of East Pakistan. After the 1965 war, when the province was almost left to itself under the doctrine of ‘Defence of East Pakistan lies in West Pakistan’, a sentiment of insecurity was abroad.

Economic disparity became a serious issue right from the beginning. In 1949-50, the gross regional product of East Pakistan was larger than West Pakistan, with a small disparity in income per capita. But it began to worsen thereafter. The proceeds of the main foreign exchange earner, jute, in the 1950s and the high inflows of foreign assistance in the 1960s were largely invested in the import substituting industrialisation of West Pakistan. East Pakistan served as a captive market for the high-cost products. There was a net outflow of resources from East to West Pakistan, without much movement of labour due to the physical distance. In the 1950s, income per capita declined in East Pakistan. In the prosperous 1960s, the disparity of income per capita between the two provinces continued to increase, though at a decreasing rate. A constitutional commitment to eventually eliminate it was not making much difference. The debate in the panel of economists on the fourth five-year plan (FYP) 1970-75 led to an East-West division, resulting in two different reports. This marked the end of effective centralised planning in Pakistan. Earlier, a similar panel had failed to give any report on the third FYP. The idea of self-sufficient provinces was floated first by Professor Ahmad Mukhtar in his address at the fourth annual conference of the Pakistan Economic Association (PEA) held in Karachi in 1953, mainly to overcome the effects of a blockade in the event of war. It was, however, at the 1956 PEA conference at Chittagong that the so-called Dacca School mooted the case of two economies and articulated it in a special conference of East Pakistani economists on the first FYP. The two-economy hypothesis was brought up again in a session on the second FYP at the PEA conference in 1959 by two East Pakistani economists, Akhlaqur Rahman and M N Huda. The official panel’s report on the second FYP reflected the position of Dacca School, but not the plan itself.

Writing in Forum, a Dhaka weekly, on January 31, 1970, this writer argued that “Pakistan means one nation, but two economies. It is a case of two brothers minding their own business most of the time and each other’s business some of the time.” Had something like the 18th Constitutional Amendment and the 7th National Finance Commission Award happened in 1950, history would perhaps have been different.

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Had something like the 18th Constitutional Amendment and the 7th National Finance Commission Award happened in 1950, history would perhaps have been different.


Had Jinnah lived, Pakistan would have been different. Had Pakistan not embraced the US, it would have been different.

These Pakis are expert in alternate histories but little else. It reveals a failure of a nation and of a people, and very much their totem, in which name they founded this wretched country.
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Sialvi demands Shariah in seven days
So, by Sunday, next week...djinnah's dream will be achieved. AoA!!
Pir Hameeduddin Sialvi on Saturday set yet another deadline for the government, this time for enforcing “Shariah” within seven days or risk protests in every nook and corner of the country.
Addressing a Khatm-i-Nabuwat Conference in the city... Aashqan-i-Rasool [those in love with the Holy Prophet] would protest in every street in the country, and it won’t stop.
The conference was attended by the workers the TLYR, the Sunni Ittehad Council, the Sunni Tehreek and other ulema and Mushaikh.
For Rana Sanaullah, the Pir advised him to recite “kalima” again and renew his faith – otherwise, he said the law minister could not be considered a Muslim.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1384229/sialv ... seven-days
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A documentary on History Channel will be aired tommrow on 9 PM. On surgical strikes.

https://youtu.be/XUjXnvCQ13c
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Pakistan summons Indian diplomat over 'unprovoked firing'
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan summoned India's deputy high commissioner for the fourth consecutive day on Sunday over the alleged "unprovoked firing" by Indian troops across the Line of Control which resulted in the death of two people.
The FO, apart from today, had summoned India's deputy high commissioner on January 15, 18, 19 and 20.
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UNSC sanctions monitoring team to visit Pakistan this week - PTI
Amid mounting global pressure on Pakistan to act against Mumbai attack mastermind Hafiz Saeed and entities linked to him, a UN Security Council team will visit the country this week for an assessment of Islamabad’s compliance with the world body’s sanctions regime.

The two-day visit of the UN Security Council’s sanctions monitoring team will begin on Thursday.

“The monitoring team of the UNSC 1267 Sanctions Committee will be here on January 25 and 26,” a senior Pakistani official was quoted as saying by Dawn.

The UN monitoring team’s visit is taking place amid increasing pressure on Pakistan from the U.S. and India with respect to the inadequate implementation of the sanctions on Saeed and entities linked to him.

However, Pakistani officials, insist that the trip is a routine visit.


Saeed was listed under UN Security Council Resolution 1267 in December 2008.

On Friday, the US State Department said it has told clearly to Islamabad that Saeed is a “terrorist” and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, reacting strongly to Pakistan Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi’s remarks that there was no case against the Mumbai attack mastermind.

State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said: “He is listed by the UNSC 1267, the Al-Qaeda Sanctions Committee for targeted sanctions due to his affiliation with Lashkar-e-Taiba, which is a designated foreign terror organisation.”

“We believe that he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” Nauert had said.

Saeed, the chief of the Jamaat-ud-Dawah (JuD), was released from house arrest in Pakistan in November.

The JuD is believed to be the front organisation for the LeT which is responsible for carrying out the Mumbai attack that killed 166 people. It has been declared as a foreign terrorist organisation by the U.S. in June 2014.

“The terms of reference of the monitoring team for Pakistan visit are not publicly known, but as per its general mandate it assists the 1267 Committee in keeping an eye on the freezing of the financial assets of listed persons and entities and checking provision of training and other material to them and their travel,” the paper said.

The UNSC monitoring team intimates instances of non-compliance to the committee through its reports. At the same time it also advises and assists member states on implementation of the regime.

Pakistan has remained under the Financial Action Task Force scanner over allegations by the U.S. and India about the UNSC sanctions not being fully implemented, the paper said.

The U.S. Department of the Treasury has designated Saeed as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist, and the U.S., since 2012, has offered a USD 10 million reward for information that brings Saeed to justice.
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Window to the West - Punir Chakram

WHEN in 1960 Mao Zedong sent off General Gengbiao, his second ambassador to Pakistan, he reportedly advised him: “Look after Pakistan; it is China’s window to the West”.

Mao’s depiction may have been as much metaphorical as geographical. During the 1960s, Pakistan was China’s diplomatic window to the West, eventually brokering the normalisation of China-US relations in 1971. Today, the physical facet of Mao’s depiction is becoming a reality in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

Gen Gengbiao, who went on to become China’s defence minister and deputy prime minister, played a vital role in building the China-Pakistan strategic relationship. So did Pakistan’s prime minister Bogra and foreign minister, and later prime minister, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.

Unfortunately, large swathes of the Pakistani pub­­lic, especially the youth, are not fully aware of the history, intensity and rationale of the Pakistan-China relationship. Some Western-oriented Pakis­ta­­nis even question China’s desire for a strong Pakistan.

The Pakistan-China relationship has survived the twists and turns of global politics and domestic changes in both countries because it is based on a strong and lasting alignment of their national interests.

Over the last five decades, Pakistan has boldly defended China’s unity and territorial integrity; worked assiduously to secure China’s legitimate seat in the United Nations; resisted attempts to censure China on human rights and to denigrate its socioeconomic achievements. The whole World including China are totally aware of Terroristani support to the Ugyhur Terrorists in Xinjiang!

For its part, China has and continues to manifest its support for Pakistan in multiple ways. A sure path for Terroristan to become Pakjiang!

— In 1965, China moved its troops to its disputed border with India, preventing India from redeploying additional forces to the battlefield against Pakistan;

— In 1971, as India invaded East Pakistan, China defended Pakistan’s territorial integrity and was prepared to respond to Pakistan’s call to intervene militarily but was prevented from doing so by an explicit Soviet nuclear threat; Despite China also being an ATAAMI TAKAT at that time IT refused to help Terroristan at that time too!

— In 1972, at Pakistan’s request, China vetoed the admission of Bangladesh into the United Nations until Dhaka and Delhi agreed to release the 90,000 Pakistani prisoners of war;

— China built Pakistan’s heavy industrial complex at Taxila and other manufacturing capabilities virtually on a grant basis;

— Despite US pressure and sanctions, China supplied Pakistan with its first ballistic missiles and enabled it to develop its now formidable missile capabilities;

— China remains the only country willing to sell civilian nuclear reactors to Pakistan and has blocked India’s single entry into the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group;

— For over three decades, new Chinese military equipment was made available to Pakistan almost simultaneously with its induction in the PLA;

— China was the only country to agree to the co-production of advanced military aircraft and other weapons systems with Pakistan;

— As China’s economic fortunes improved, it quietly and repeatedly extended financial support (loans, bank deposits, grants) to enable Pakistan to meet economic emergencies and bolster its failing finances;

— China decided to finance the CPEC projects in Pakistan as the first leg of its ambitious Belt and Road Initiative. No other country’s companies were prepared to invest or work in Pakistan; That says it all!

— Finally, as India pursues a global media and diplomatic campaign to ‘isolate’ Pakistan and threatens ‘surgical strikes’ and a ‘limited war’, and as the US exerts pressure on Pakistan to support its failed strategy in Afghanistan and succumb to Indian diktat, it is China, with its veto in the Security Council and influence in major capitals, that stands in the way of negative international decisions and actions against Pakistan. All the Eleven Points prove that Terroristan is an IMPOTENT COUNTRY and has to cuddle and kiss China’s “South Pole” to survive!

In the currently unfolding Asian drama, the power relationships in South Asia and adjacent areas will depend on the structure and content of Sino-US, Sino-India and Pakistan-India relations.

The US has designated China as a ‘competitor’ in its recent national security document. President Trump is reportedly ‘frustrated’ by China’s ‘failure’ to persuade or punish North Korea or to reduce the US trade deficit with China. Trade action against China appears to be in the offing. There is revived rhetoric from the Pentagon regarding ‘freedom of navigation’ in the South China Sea. The US endeavours to build alliances around China’s periphery are active.

To dampen the US campaign, China appears to have softened its stance towards the states with which it has maritime disputes in the South China Sea as well as with its main Asian rivals: Japan and India. For instance, in the Donglan (Doklam) stand-off, China allowed New Delhi to save face by not publicising India’s troop withdrawal and it accepted a mention of UN-listed ‘terrorist’ organisations in the BRICS Summit communiqué.

Obviously, Beijing does not want India to enter into an alliance with the US against China. However Terroristan entered into a US Alliance - AFAIK - in the late 1940s! Its tactical diplomacy may serve to defer critical strategic choices. Yet, it is evident that Trump and his generals are on a path towards an open military and strategic confrontation with China. India will, if it has not done so already, embrace a military alliance with the US. India sees itself as China’s ‘natural’ rival; it hungers for China’s great power status; the 1962 defeat still rankles; the border disputes with China have not been resolved. A powerful, anti-Muslim, anti-Chinese, ‘democratic’ America is viewed in Modi’s Delhi as a ‘natural ally’.

In this configuration, Pakistan has no choice but to preserve and intensify its strategic partnership with China. The alternative is submission to a Pax Indo-Americana.

Despite their long and close partnership, Pakistan and China need to undertake urgent and serious efforts to preserve, diversify and intensify their relationship. These efforts include: suppression of terrorist groups, like the ETIM, which threaten China’s security; prevention of externally sponsored disruption of CPEC, especially in Gilgit-Baltistan (CPEC’s ‘chicken neck’) and Balochistan; efficient execution of CPEC projects; focused and generous Chinese support for Pakistan’s economic and industrial modernisation; promotion of peace in Afghanistan to end the US presence there; a joint stance against India’s anti-Pakistan threats; and the rapid modernisation of Pakistan’s armed forces and their strategic and tactical integration with the PLA.

Naturally, both China and Pakistan will continue to hope that America’s present omni-directional belligerence will give way, perhaps in a post-Trump era, to more astute, responsible policies. To that day, Pakistan and China should keep open their window to the West.

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Paki's (their terrorist outfit) have taken credit for the attack.
>>>Taliban assault on the Intercontinental Hotel in Afghanistan's capital killed at least 18 people, including 14 foreigners, and pinned security forces down for more than 13 hours before the last attacker was killed on Sunday.

A spokesman for the Interior Ministry Najib Danish said that 11 of the 14 foreigners killed were employees of KamAir, a private Afghan airline.

He added that 10 others were wounded including six security officers and four civilians.
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Kumarvinod wrote:Another one.

https://youtu.be/BJga7vL67ls
To this day ModiJi haters in India deny these surgical strikes and trivialize them by claiming MMS/Sonia also did the same but did not take credit. And this narrative is also pushed by their toadies like Ajay Shukla.
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Pakistan 'won't allow' UN sanctions monitoring team access to Hafiz Saeed

NEW DELHI: Pakistan won't allow a sanctions monitoring team+ of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) any direct access to 26/11 Mumbai terror mastermind Hafiz Saeed or his entities when it visits the country later this week, diplomatic sources told The Nation.

The UN team's visit will take place - on January 25 and 26 - amid increasing pressure on Pakistan from the US and India on the inadequate implementation of the sanctions on Saeed and entities linked to him.

Saeed and his organisation the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) were put under sanctions by the UN in December 2008, a month after the Mumbai terror attack. The terrorist, who was released from house arrest late last November, in fact petitioned the UN after his release asking for his name be removed from their list of sanctioned terrorists. They didn't.

Pakistani officials insist the UNSC team's trip is a routine visit.

The UNSC team, one Pakistani diplomatic source said, will visit to discuss "official information" on issues relating to the banned outfits and implementation of UN sanctions.
"They will not seek access to the JuD or Hafiz Saeed and if they do that, we will not allow it.

We have been in talks and this visit was scheduled," said the diplomatic source.

The UNSC sanctions list includes the JuD, Al-Qaeda, Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Falah-e-Insaniyat Foundation and Lashkar-e-Taiba (also banned by Pakistan, and of which the JuD is a front), among other organisations and individuals.

Last week, Pakistan's prime minister said there's no case against Saeed, which is why he can't be prosecuted. However, just days before that statement by the PM, Pakistan banned companies and individuals from making donations to the JuD, the related Falah-i-Insaniat Foundation and other organizations on the UNSC sanctions list.

This double-speak did not make the US happy. After the PM's statement, the US State Department sternly said Pakistan should prosecute Saeed "to the fullest extent of the law".

"He (Saeed) is listed by the UNSC 1267, the al-Qaida Sanctions Committee for targeted sanctions due to his affiliation with Lashkar-e- Taiba, which is a designated foreign terror organisation," said a US State Department spokesperson.

The US Department of the Treasury has also named Saeed a Specially Designated Global Terrorist, and the US, since 2012, has offered a $10 million reward for information that brings the terrorist to justice.

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Jamaat-e-Islami's IJT clashes with Baloch students in the Punjab University - DT
A brawl among two student groups at University of the Punjab left several injured here on Monday.

A violent scuffle erupted among Baloch Students and Islami Jamiat Taliba (IJT) causing several injuries. Activists of both organisations attacked many vehicles inside the Jinnah Campus and at the Waris Mir Underpass.

After the incident, heavy contingent of police arrived on the scene. Police fired shells to disperse activists after which IJT activists attacked police vans at the underpass.

According to PU spokesperson, police are conducting search operation in the university and suspects will be arrested by indentifying them through CCTV footage.

The clash has created panic among students. However, classes are being conducted as per schedule.
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