India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

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Indians need to be aware of this little nexus. Everyone from the Vancouver homeowner to city coffers to supercar salesmen is feeding off Chinese corruption.

Sikh gangs are in the news but they are mere street fighters compared to the Chinese gangsters in Vancouver.

https://themobmuseum.org/blog/chinese-t ... tate-cars/

https://globalnews.ca/news/4658158/fent ... rcle-boys/

https://globalnews.ca/news/4149818/vanc ... ing-drugs/
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It's the same wherever they go, just google "pakistanis in countryofchoice"

The harsh reality of Pakistanis living in Canada

https://www.dawn.com/news/1298978
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Sob story of Pakis in Canada, where do the RAPEs live, I wonder?
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The comments are more informative than the article.


They are a riot. These people are those who have managed to lurn som English. That is the cream of Pakistani society.


Fear not Hindia.
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sanjaykumar wrote:The comments are more informative than the article.


They are a riot. These people are those who have managed to lurn som English. That is the cream of Pakistani society.


Fear not Hindia.
The most hilarious comment of all was the one urging these people to come back to Pstan since job and housing are guaranteed by CPEC. Seems like Xi displayed his C-Pec and ObOr there :lol:
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Take exception to author's assertion on inferior quality of education in Pakistan. The world knows that Pakistani are not only hardworking but also highly educated. Instead of lamenting the quality of education in Pakistan, the issue is Canadian policy that discredits Pakistani degrees with one stroke, leaving these highly educated people in identity crisis.

Pakistan government must take a stand on behalf of its diaspora and demand their education and skills be credited fairly and equitably, allowing these immigrants to stand on stronger footing
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@qamberali Come on yaar. Ethnicity has never been a problem in Pakistan which is ranked as one of the least racistic country in Asia. I even see many successful christians in all walks of life which will shatter the religious steriotype.
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Bleas to write Dangerous to Health warnings while posting such posts. I had to take Amlor to control my bekBu dill.
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Yeah. There is a Poe’s law or some such thing.
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Tarek Fatah is that rare thing-a decent man.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... -in-canada

FATAH: There is no Islamophobia in Canada


This isn't quite true. There is now a suspicion of Muslims, unlike in the past. Canadians and Americans will tell me things that they would understandably not like to broadcast. I have thus observed an 'intolerance'. Or does one need to make a distinction between intolerance and self-preservation.

Much of this commentary is phenomenological. Comments on the stereotypical nature of aboriginals are unkind, remarks on Black culture are condescending. Neither set is deeper than observation, which cannot be denied. A corrective from critical race theory may now be ameliotrative.

However Canadians are not like Americans in their level of politeness. They will not say 'If you don't like it here go back to your own country'.

Yet.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57592243

Canada: 751 unmarked graves found at residential school

"An estimated 6,000 children died while attending these schools, due in large part to the squalid health conditions inside. Students were often housed in poorly built, poorly heated, and unsanitary facilities.

It was one of more than 130 compulsory boarding schools run by the Canadian government and religious authorities during the 19th and 20th Centuries with the aim of assimilating indigenous youth."

Lets digest this number, current population of Canada is 1/40th of India and this number is from just ONE school. If these schools ran for less than 100 years, then they had more than a child dying EVERY week for a 100 years (if we believe the 6000 number) and nobody noticed but they surprisingly have time to comment on farmers protest in India. The only word that is missing from this article, and conveniently so, is Genocide.

https://www.google.com/search?q=genocid ... e&ie=UTF-8

Genocide
noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
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Lisa wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57592243

Canada: 751 unmarked graves found at residential school

"An estimated 6,000 children died while attending these schools, due in large part to the squalid health conditions inside. Students were often housed in poorly built, poorly heated, and unsanitary facilities.

It was one of more than 130 compulsory boarding schools run by the Canadian government and religious authorities during the 19th and 20th Centuries with the aim of assimilating indigenous youth."

Lets digest this number, current population of Canada is 1/40th of India and this number is from just ONE school. If these schools ran for less than 100 years, then they had more than a child dying EVERY week for a 100 years (if we believe the 6000 number) and nobody noticed but they surprisingly have time to comment on farmers protest in India. The only word that is missing from this article, and conveniently so, is Genocide.

https://www.google.com/search?q=genocid ... e&ie=UTF-8

Genocide
noun
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
Lisa ji,

some churches mysteriously burned down very recently.

I have a feeling that the two issues are connected

be interesting to see how the whites spin and whitewash (pun intended) this age old and hard core evidence of long standing racism and genocide against the indigenous native populace that is an unacknowledged fact of canadian life even today

similar things happened even in australia, all sanctioned and overseen by a benign and all powerful emperor/empress sitting pretty in london


Fire Destroys Two Catholic Churches on Canadian Indigenous Land

The fires come at a raw moment, just weeks after the discovery in British Columbia of the unmarked graves of 215 Indigenous children.

While the circumstances remained murky, investigators said one line of inquiry was arson, including the possibility that the Indigenous communities had been targeted.

Investigators said another possible motive was anger at the Roman Catholic Church. The two churches are about 120 miles from the Kamloops Indian Residential School, where the children’s graves were discovered on the grounds in May.
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Chetakji,

Its not even that. 6000/130 schools is 46. How do you then find 215 bodies in one school and 751 in a second? They are an evil people with grand ideas of their racial importance/superiority. Somebody needs to show them the mirror.

BBC then goes to give them a get out of jail free card, "Students were often housed in poorly built, poorly heated, and unsanitary facilities." i.e. they weren't killed they just died! Natural causes you know! Yet this same channel knows every detail of how that terrorist Wani died.
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Lisa ji, that somebody is us. At least Chinese newspaper had guts to call out the genocide.

And, these people had b@11s to make a official statement about standing with Indian farmers.

If Indian government can’t capitalise on these news, to crush Chr1st1an menace then it is high time these countries should stop using the word “Indian” to refer to their native population, which was effectively wiped out. It has nothing to do with India. GoI please stop the abuse.
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Lisa wrote:Chetakji,

Its not even that. 6000/130 schools is 46. How do you then find 215 bodies in one school and 751 in a second? They are an evil people with grand ideas of their racial importance/superiority. Somebody needs to show them the mirror.
Lisa ji,

the greatly admired amerikis used smallpox impregnated blankets to decimate the "troublesome" natives.

Many enterprising authors would have already started "research" on these findings to quickly publish their "best sellers"

hopefully, all will be revealed soon

this should be tagged strongly to the USCIRF so that they can see for themselves the kind of ancestors that they had
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Not necessary to tag anyone.


In the communities housing these residential schools, it was common knowledge that there were mass graves of children.
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Hope it was not already posted...

Indian consulate says teachers' lessons on farmer protests could 'poison' relations with Canada
The Indian consulate in Toronto is trying to stop GTA teachers from giving lessons about the ongoing protests by predominately Sikh farmers in India, claiming the material poses a security threat and could "poison" relations between India and Canada.

In a strongly worded letter dated March 11, the Consulate General of India, which represents the Indian government, claimed what elementary and high school students in Peel, Toronto and York region are learning about the protests could disrupt peaceful relations between Indian communities in Ontario.

The consulate urged Ontario's Office of International Relations and Protocol to "alert the Canadian authorities ... to investigate" what's being taught and "to sensitize" the school boards so they "immediately remove such hateful and factually incorrect material."

"The Consulate General would further like to state that it considers this incident to be extremely serious and views it as a conspiracy to sabotage the goodwill and warm friendly relations between India and Canada by inimical entities to further their own nefarious agenda," the letter says.

Brampton high school teacher Simmi Jaswal has been incorporating discussions about the farmer protests in her geography and social justice courses this school year.

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Teachers continue lessons
Jaswal says she feels a responsibility to unpack the politics surrounding the events with her students, as they're already talking about it on social media. She bases her lessons on media reports.

"I make it very frank to my students that in my view what we're looking at is a form of oppression," Jaswal said. "My preference is to centre on marginalized voices and identities. But if you feel like you're not hearing a particular side, then we have that conversation."

The oppressor, she said, isn't the Indian people, which includes Hindu, Muslims and Sikhs along with many other religious minorities, but rather the state. (good ole technique, people are not, it is the state that is bad)
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The Peel School Board, which received the letter from the Indian consulate, said in a statement it's aware of farmers in India exercising "their rights to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly." The board, encompassing Mississauga, Brampton and Caledon, has not discouraged teachers from discussing the topic with their students.

"Educators and school leaders are encouraged to take up these discussions with equitable considerations to stimulate inquiry and reflection, and to ensure the inclusion and wellbeing of their students," said spokesperson Malon Edwards in an email Friday. (Wonder if they discuss killing of native students by Church in the Indian Residential Schools)
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^^ Saar nothing will stop them. Even right now Trudeau regime is saying they aren't liable for the Indian genocide and Vatican won't even come out with a statement. In a couple of days Canadian media will start talking about the Royal couple again and everything will be forgotten.

If anyone ever needed convincing that the weak are just food for the powerful then look no further.
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Most Canadians are decent relatively liberal folk. This will not go down well. Precisely because it so subverts this self image.
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^"Most Canadians are decent relatively liberal folk. This will not go down well."

Essentially correct, although there is a significant enough section of the Canadian population that will use the argument "It happened a long time ago" or "every country has these things in their history", instead of soul searching or self criticism. Also, the impact on Canada institutionally and philosophically at the level of power and the elite will likely be minimal. Canada will continue its moralising toward, and sour media coverage of, India for example. Canada will not become like Mongolia, Zimbabwe, Vietnam and the Republic of Ireland, in its attitude and approach toward India. There will still be that condescension, stand offishness, judgementalism, coldness, arrogance, dismissiveness, willful obliviousness toward India. That won't go away for a long time.
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The condescension and the arrogance will go away when we have enough money and when we start pointing out the white nationalism and the continued suppression and genocide of native Canadians by the white Christian European immigrants.

Also don't agree with "Most Canadians are decent relatively liberal folk" part. Sure the Canadians will say "sorry, eh" and hold the door open for you but they've just as much hillbilly in them and are just as racist. I actually prefer the American racism, atleast it's out in the open. Did everyone forget the incidence where a dying Native Canadian had to hear racist comments ranging from "stupid as hell" and that the Native Canadian was "only good for sex."
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Hate to say this - India did not ask for an impartial inquiry by UN, while China actually did. This has nothing to do with power or money. It is just showing up the hypocrisy of this frozen-ass country build on top of skulls of indigenous people who is now teaching anti-India propaganda in schools based on a movement that uses terror against Indian and even Canadian civilians.

How is this school conditioning based on what a khalistani teacher thinks of India is different from the paki text books?
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" Sure the Canadians will say "sorry, eh" and hold the door open for you but they've just as much hillbilly in them and are just as racist..

I had a little discussion on this with another ethnic( East Asian) Canadian. We both agreed that these day-to-day niceties are very good, and it's better to have them, then not to. Same thing for traffic courtesy. It's commendable. But what about inclusivity, empathy, awareness, depth? That's what is sorely lacking.
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751 bodies of children have been found buried on the grounds of a former Catholic school in Canada.

NYT, Guardian and BBC are calling it "residential school" instead of "Catholic school"

This is how liberal media has covered up crimes of the Church worldwide.
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"who is now teaching anti-India propaganda in schools based on a movement that uses terror against Indian and even Canadian civilians."

Well said, I never tire of pointing out that the biggest mass murder in recent Canadian history( Air India flight 182, in the year 1985, many years after the last residential school death) has nothing to do with the oppression and slaughter of the aboriginals, Metis, anti French Canadian bigotry, anti-Semitism, anti- Black racism etc. But is linked to the politics between the central Indian government and the state of Punjab. And true, between 7-12 persons of non-Indian background were also on that flight.
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Varoon saar, that's very true. Have heard people exchange pleasantries in grocery stores, turn around, and make racial jokes about "ching chongs" or the "n*****s". People will exit a bus and say "thank you" to the driver if they happen to be white while a black bus driver gets a sarcastic "thank you" or an irritated grunt. Doesn't happen everytime-allthetime but it's often enough.

Makes you realize that all other niceties are a mockery and a sham or at best out of a habit and something they'd rather not extend to POC. Their internal turmoil is very amusing if you experience it or see it happen to someone else.
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Not quite India-Canada related...so, hope it is appropriate in this dhaaga

Dancing Around the Table, Part One
Dancing Around the Table: Part One provides a fascinating look at the crucial role Indigenous people played in shaping the Canadian Constitution. The 1984 Federal Provincial Conference of First Ministers on Aboriginal Constitutional Matters was a tumultuous and antagonistic process that pitted Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau and the First Ministers—who refused to include Indigenous inherent rights to self-government in the Constitution—against First Nations, Inuit and Métis leaders, who would not back down from this historic opportunity to enshrine Indigenous rights.
@11:40, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, quote justifying occupation of native land...
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i don't know any part of the world where history is constantly is re-rewritten by migrations and immigrations, fights between countries, changing frontiers, and I don't think you can expect North America or the whole of western hemisphere settle thing differently than they have been settled everywhere else, hopefully peacefully here.
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It's not surprising.

canadians are used to hiding uncomfortable facts and poking their nose where it doesn't belong

their "support" for the khalistani "farmer's" agitation in India reeks of hypocrisy and woke sanctimoniousness

now uncle trudeau is blaming the pope for the dead children and asking him to apologize on canadian soil.

"For decades, the indigenous families were forced to send their children to boarding schools to assimilate them, in what a national Truth and Reconciliation Commission found in 2015 was an effort to wipe out their cultures."

come the next elections, this bhangra cavorting creep will be shown the door



the britshits, the commies, congis, the BIF have run a similar program in India by the complete whitewashing and rewriting the history of mu$!im savagery and the portuguese inquisitions in goa

that program continues unabated till date, notwithstanding the arrival of the so called "nationalist" right wing govt

in australia, the whites reportedly used to "hunt" the aborigines for sport.

both kaneda and australia were britshit colonies and even today, continue to be servile members of the commonwealth



BREAKING: Ian Austen now reports that up to 30,000 missing Indigenous children might be in makeshift graves at Catholic schools in Canada — not the 4,100 initially reported.

That means as many as 1 out of every 5 children forced into these genocidal "schools" never came home.
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Requesting that all the news about Canadian genocides covered in various indic languages be collected.

Chinese have asked that Canada be investigated for genocides.

GoI should be engaging various native tribes.

Added later:
I suppose that we should also keep a list of Indian news joints that aren't carrying this news.
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How long before they find a way to exonerate themselves by blaming it on the inadvertent exposure to viruses unwittingly carried by the inoculated, well-meaning whites...
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Manish_P wrote:How long before they find a way to exonerate themselves by blaming it on the inadvertent exposure to viruses unwittingly carried by the inoculated, well-meaning whites...
the hans have a bone to pick with the canadians and so they are pushing for this genocide investigation.

The cheeni have much worse to their credit.

People in glass houses shouldn't really be throwing stones
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chetak wrote:
The cheeni have much worse to their credit.

People in glass houses shouldn't really be throwing stones
This is a very wrong assessment:

- All sides (US, Europe, China, Middle East, Japan, Russia etc) are all living in glass cases for a long time on issue of oppression of Indigenous cultures and people.

- India has been corralled in like a wild horse and tamed by them since Independence that their glass cases are our glass boundaries too

- Due to that, India is too timid to ask for UN investigations or send a fact finding team to Canada

- china is fighting back, despite being a Grade A offender, while India is quiet, fearing it will have a backlash, despite being a Grade A victim.

We have even bigger bone to pick than China - True-doo’s claims of oppression of farmers have no basis while Xinjiang actually has issues. So why should we take sides against China in this matter as you seem to be doing - GoI seem to be signaling it is none of our business,
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chetak wrote: the hans have a bone to pick with the canadians and so they are pushing for this genocide investigation.

The cheeni have much worse to their credit.

People in glass houses shouldn't really be throwing stones
chetak ji, cheeni, TSP, many RoP orgs do exactly that - throwing stones (even literally) while living in glass houses.
our issue has been exactly that - we do not throw stones and prefer fixing our issues.

maybe its time we start thrwing stones and let others do the fixing for sometime?
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chetak wrote: come the next elections, this bhangra cavorting creep will be shown the door
this seems very unlikely.
Conservative support dips as Liberals appear on steady road to majority: poll

Liberals doled out quite a chunk of change to all sections during the China virus pandemic. Besides white Canada just doesn't care enough about a couple thousand dead native children, they're not like Indians whose heart bleeds for anyone and everyone.

Gotta agree with China here, there definitely should be a genocide investigation. Otherwise it'll all be forgotten in a couple weeks.
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Wion TV with the anchor Palki has carried two fairly hard hitting programmes covering the story of residential school deaths in Canada. Here is one of them

https://www.wionews.com/world/unstoppab ... ool-395019
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So far I haven't seen any major Gujarati news paper carry the news about genocides in Canada. They are definitely carrying heat wave news in Canada but not this.
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It is the same networks and the same mentality that has been operating in India since colonial times, converting the "natives and pagans" here

x posted from the evangelism thread


‘You natives, be grateful that your children died as Christians, not pagans’: American Conservative magazine tells indigenous people in Canada
‘You natives, be grateful that your children died as Christians, not pagans’: American Conservative magazine tells indigenous people in Canada


It is astounding indeed, the callousness, the blatant indifference with which the countless lives lost and the irreparable loss of the native language, and culture, is being defended, even hailed because apparently, it was more important to be a dead Christian than to be alive as a 'pagan'.

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The article in American Conservative, published on July 8, titled “The Meaning of The Native Graves”, actually says the residential schools were dong ‘God’s work’. The article actually starts with paragraphs from The Bible, listing out lines where Jesus had apparently commanded to convert pagans and ‘save their souls’.

It then describes the ‘noble’ mission and deeds of French Jesuit Jean de Brebeuf, who had dared to venture into an “untamed” continent because he had to carry out a grave mission, “to bring the Christian Gospels to the natives”.

The article then narrates how a “caring and noble’ Jean de Brebeuf had preached the Gospels to the natives for 13 years, successfully baptizing dozens of natives, before the Church was attacked by another band of natives and the priests were killed.
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Yes a grave mission indeed.
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Flying to Canada from India? Know about vaccine, flight restrictions
  1. Here is all you need to know

    1. Canada is not accepting Covid-19 negative test reports from India.

    2. As direct flights between India and Canada are stalled as of now, Indians travelling to Canada will have to first go to a third country, where they can get themselves tested.

    3. Indians will have to stay in that third country for at least 14 days.

    4. If an Indian tests positive during the transit, he or she will be quarantined or sent back to the point of departure.

    5. Albania, Belgrade, Cairo are some of the countries where Indians can travel to and stay before flying to Canada.

    6. The pre-departure Covid-19 molecular test is not optional for fully vaccinated individuals. Everyone will have to get tested.

    7. Pfizer, Moderna, Covishield and Johnson and Johnson vaccines are recognised in Canada.

    8. Covaxin is not yet recognised in Canada but Ocugen Inc., Bharat Biotech's partner, has applied to Health Canada for approval, now that Bharat Biotech has phase 3 clinical trial results as well.
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In case you travel to Canada -

Free Heroin, Cocaine and Meth Distributed in Front of Police Department
According to a press release from the Drug User Liberation Front, or DULF, they teamed up with the Vancouver Area Network of Drug Users, or VANDU, to hand out a free, safe supply of illicit drugs on Wednesday.
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x posted from the political thread

twitter
Reporter for Canadian state TV says India has duty to rescue NY Times reporters stuck in Afghanistan!

How can foreign citizens on foreign soil have right to Govt of India resources?

We are required to serve NYT because we are brown skinned?

Why shouldn’t @nytimes ask for help? Criticizing government in a democracy should not prevent it from assisting journalists in danger. All journalists criticize governments. That’s the job. Is there a quid pro quo in India that government helps only journalists who kowtow??
viaChris O'Neill-Yates@oneillyatescbc · 6h


and this is where she is coming from, the liberally privileged racist woke, and entitled white skinned presstitute

Be it the incredible images of India’s pandemic funeral pyres, Rohingya refugees, the brutality of cow vigilantism, or a heartwarming shot of a boy on a bicycle carrying his dog piggyback, Danish Siddiqui’s lens enlightened us. A tremendous loss.
viaChris O'Neill-Yates@oneillyatescbc·25 Jul

Chris O'Neill-Yates comes across as a baleful anti Hindu, anti Modi and anti India biatch
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