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Cambridge Analytica and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 02:08
by ramana
The recent exposure of Cambridge Analytics and Facebook nexus shows the next level in coloir revolution is underway.
The crux of matter is an unnamed researcher got 275000 profiles from Facebook. CA then mapped these to about 49Million and gathered data.

CA is now officially Congress party data mining company. It is rumored the recent North vs South India campaign.is under their advice.

Here is a series of tweets on CA and what they do. Request folks post the entire as screenshots as I don't know how.

https://twitter.com/lifethatwasnt/statu ... 62080?s=19

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 02:15
by kit
i dont think the BJP is not tech savvy but this takes the game to an altogether different level .. pappu by himself can do nothing .. wonder if congress can hobble together enough data to find out which alliances would suit best.. and what if the BJP does the same ?!!

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 02:50
by ramana
Its not about counter measures but to understand the deep state game being played here.

I think ultimate goal is to divide India again for Congress benefit.

We never understood the sidelining of Congress leaders except Nehru, rise of Muslim League all were steps to divide India.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 03:14
by JTull
I think any link between the the two must be investigated. A political entity in cahoots with powers inimical to India must be brought down. The link must be exposed to all population. 2019 election could be a watershed moment.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 03:59
by Lalmohan
BJP are also listed on the CA site as being a customer

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 04:52
by ramana
That's ok. We are in data gathering phase.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 07:06
by Philip
In the Indian context how successful would it be? For example , the "farmers rally " in MH. They were compelled to do so for ground realities not FB, whatever, but the " muddle classes", and youth are vulnerable to feku news.I was chatting with a friend yesterday from the US on the same.There he says, FB is the most popular means of communicating and taken as gospel truth.Nevertheless, the mass dumping of rival propaganda has taken place on social media in the Indian context and one worry with all this cyberwar going on is the EVM hacking possibility.The EC will have to certify the sanctity of the vote to the voter.I don't know if the proposal of a parallel paper ballot is practical at all, imagine the extra time taken to vote!

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 08:43
by CalvinH
Lalmohan wrote:BJP are also listed on the CA site as being a customer

Do you have a screenshot or reference for this?

Sreenivasan Jain from NDTV tried to fake a document about this recently.Hope you are not referring to that. Basically he joined two different documents to show that a director of CA subsidiary has written in his LinkedIn profile that he assisted BJP in 2014 elections. CA was set up in 2016. Plus there was no such description in the LinkedIn profile.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 10:15
by Yagnasri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica

Wikichacha says that CA was founded in 2013. Elections for Bihar were held in 2010 and then in 2015. So CA can not in involved in Bihar elections in 2010. Its earlier avatar claims to have done it. Before 2016 hardly anyone one knows about the CA and what it does. Founder of the CA was close to Ted Cruz and later to DT. If the founder is hardcore EJ then it may explain the VP pick by DT.

I think CA now is working with EJs and "nationalists" of West. The use of SM by Obomber and rapid spread of SM might have given the founder an idea on how to use the SM data and SM platform for election and other purposes.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 10:19
by Yagnasri
India is one of those places wherein EJs and globalist cabals have same aims. Hence the association with INC.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 12:53
by rhytha

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 14:03
by JTull
I think the profile pages of BRFites should restrict visibility of historical posts. Perhaps limit it to 5 only.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 18:04
by A_Gupta
I find it a bit ironic that everyone is all agitated by Cambridge Analytics. If distortion of the information universe one lives in is the issue, then no one was more successful than the British colonials in India. The whole information universe of a civilization has been distorted, not for the duration of one election or some such trivia; and we are far from having decolonized ourselves. In fact, it is not clear that we will ever do so, that we have the will, drive or even awareness to undo it. The "Aryan-Dravidian" divide which is just barely addressed in the "Out of India" thread barely scratches the surface.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 19:52
by ramana
Arun,
There are two ways of looking at problems: Strategic/global factors etc. And tactical/military/ current issue.
If you don't fix the tactical problem we won't live to fix the strategic problem.

You are looking at strategic picture.

In fact the hyenas of war have been unleashed as we are decolonizing ourselves.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 19:53
by ramana
rhytha, Thanks for the video. However want to focus on India aspects.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 21:50
by panduranghari

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 22:09
by Lalmohan
an article on CA from about a year ago talked about their proposition - they can help shift public opinion using influencing techniques in democratic societies. they have done so in numerous countries for numerous clients. the tools and techniques are to do with the manipulation of social and other media. micro targeting niche demographics to push them to vote in a given direction. some of this is legal, some of this is not - depending on where you live. also how they do it can be illegal

the question is, who is their client?

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 22:34
by krithivas
Just as a point - Of late, I'm inundated with anti-Modi FB feeds from "The Wire", "Irony of India" and "Cong/Rahul Gandhi PM something". It is matched by a dramatic reduction in feeds from PM Modi, Amit Shah, RSS et al. PM Modi took to FB to drastically expand his reach, and will not be surprised if Congress is trying to upend him.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 23:02
by rsingh
Block FB 5 month prior to elections...........kissa khatam. So much jealousy among women folks ( **deleted) sala bheja kharab ho gaya.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 22 Mar 2018 23:13
by ramana
Lalmohan wrote:an article on CA from about a year ago talked about their proposition - they can help shift public opinion using influencing techniques in democratic societies. they have done so in numerous countries for numerous clients. the tools and techniques are to do with the manipulation of social and other media. micro targeting niche demographics to push them to vote in a given direction. some of this is legal, some of this is not - depending on where you live. also how they do it can be illegal

the question is, who is their client?



Are you asking wrt India? or the world?

Twitter has posts from Congress party insiders which clearly show who their client in India is.

And Sam Pitroda who is now designated handler for Rahul baba is denying all this.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 00:21
by Lalmohan
at the moment everybody will deny it, too much bad publicity
they have a big set up in india... they are guns for hire

point is they can shift influence and so it matters who is ultimately paying them (anywhere)

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 01:33
by A_Gupta
ramana wrote:Arun,
There are two ways of looking at problems: Strategic/global factors etc. And tactical/military/ current issue.
If you don't fix the tactical problem we won't live to fix the strategic problem.

You are looking at strategic picture.

In fact the hyenas of war have been unleashed as we are decolonizing ourselves.


War on many fronts!
I'll be darned if they beat us!

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 04:42
by Rudradev
Who brings the gas to your house?

Con Edison might do it today, and three months from now it may be PG & E or whoever. At the level of competition, govt. contracts, etc. it is a cutthroat world. One supplier gets knocked out and another one comes in.

But for you it is 99.999% the same. Gas still comes into your house. When you turn on the stove burner, there it is.

It's the same thing with Ford Foundation/Templeton Foundation etc. pre-2016 and now Cambridge Analytica post-2016. Efforts at data gathering, social engineering, political manipulation, etc. in India were always there... and always ultimately managed by the same deep-state quarters. The supplier has changed, that's all.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 04:48
by Cosmo_R
Google 'Modi News' and all of a sudden you get everything that Roam Rajya Rahul is throwing at Modi. Wasn't that way two months ago

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 09:56
by Deans
A couple of questions and comments:

Did Russia (significantly) influence the US election, or did CA, or both ?
Is there really anything wrong is using social media to more accurately target people ? Good digital marketers are evaluated by their ability to
better target people (higher conversion rate) than their competitors.

On FB, as a company CEO, i found them unresponsive to genuine concerns on fake / dangerous users. I took over a company, on behalf of foreign investors, which was started by an Indian promoter, who claimed 2 million fans on FB, I found more than half to be fake (bots which create fake profiles of people in countries that couldn't have heard of our company). FB refused to take action and we had to use apps which deleted 1.4 million of them. My guess is there are just 100,000 real people (5% of claimed) who liked the company at some point of time.
Their targeted advertising also sends messages to mostly fake profiles. even if advertising is `pay per click' its not difficult to get fake profiles to
click your ad. The bigger concern for me is that FBs business model may be built on taking money to advertise to non existent people.

In my previous company, our FB page covering news of our company in J&K, was hijacked by Kashmiris, who posted Anti India statements.
Again FB was slow to react. We had to threaten police action if posters were not banned.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 10:02
by ramana
Deans, That is the question which is being probed about US elections.

No one has problems with marketing campaigns
However lot of issues when used for political campaigns.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 13:37
by rhytha
ramana wrote:rhytha, Thanks for the video. However want to focus on India aspects.


We need to know their US strategy by studying how they did it for trump. With a bi-polar parties along with individual constituency issues, they had mapped thousand data points per voter and placed them in multiple universes which seemed to shift in time as well.

So how much data points should a Indian voter be classified in?

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 17:52
by Falijee
68 Journalists, writers and bureaucrats given 2-5 Lakh/month to write against PM Modi through Cambridge Analytica!

ince the time the Cambridge Analytica controversy got exposed, the Congress has been facing major embarrassment. The major expose on Congress links with the company Cambridge Analytica which is known to steal people’s private information to influence their political choice. This information was out recently after the Facebook banned the access to the company.
Later it was found that Congress had hired this same company for the upcoming 2019 elections. This information was exposed by Republic Tv which gathered evidence of 8 top political leaders meeting with Cambridge Analytica Company founders in the year 2017. The documents also showed that an NGO was opened by these political parties through which payments were made to the Cambridge Analytica company. An estimated of Rs 800 Crore is said to be paid by the political party to strategize for the upcoming 2019 elections. Cambridge Analytica is in the eye of a global storm over its alleged data theft and the other means by which it influenced global elections.
This same company was also used by Donald Trump before the American elections to influence the psychological preference of the voters. After it was understood that Facebook was used to breach millions of personal information, the union law minister Ravi Shankar Prasad yesterday gave warning to Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg of stern action if the allegation is found to be true.
But the other shocking part which has been exposed is that around 68 journalists, writers, bureaucrats and film stars have been hired by Cambridge Analytica company which is paying Rs 2-5 Lakhs/month to write against PM Modi. This news was discussed on Republic Tv which said that many journalists names were listed in the disclosed Emails of Cambridge Analytica. Should be verified and investigated .
he government announced that it will probe the matter and if any party or company was found guilty of breaching personal information of people, they will be subjected to stringent punishment.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 19:14
by Singbhai
Prashant Kishor and his team's link to CA should be analyzed. All the claims of BJP, Congress, JDU etc is tied to this one man.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 19:56
by chetak
ramana wrote:Its not about counter measures but to understand the deep state game being played here.

I think ultimate goal is to divide India again for Congress benefit.

We never understood the sidelining of Congress leaders except Nehru, rise of Muslim League all were steps to divide India.


Saar, need to make clear those entities who did/do this and make their motives clear.

It's not so simplistic as the mere propagation of ROL/ROP. the congress is merely the face of some entity/entities hosting the brain and the body.

also, increasing ROL/ROP numbers is just one of the means to the common end.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 19:59
by chetak
Singbhai wrote:Prashant Kishor and his team's link to CA should be analyzed. All the claims of BJP, Congress, JDU etc is tied to this one man.


Either PK was the trojan horse or the messenger.

Need to see behind the curtain.

Any rumblings on twitter??

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 20:18
by Dipanker



Postcard news is a 100% garbage website with 0 credibility, better to post these in Humor Thread!

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 21:07
by Lalmohan
what CA do for their clients and specifically what they have done for the trump campaign has been public domain for some time, even before it made it to the news papers in the past week

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 21:09
by Neela

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 21:27
by chetak


Neela Ji,

you, if on twitter, or some other good samaritans on twitter need to tweet this ASAP.

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 21:57
by Sridhar K
Chetak sir done but have very few followers

On the point about these things not being new, though very true, the time to influence today is very less and is getting lesser. Jallikattu protest is perhaps a great case study. Let us see how Anna Hazare fast spans out

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 23 Mar 2018 22:01
by Rudradev

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 24 Mar 2018 00:01
by madhu
Heard that Prashant kishore is back to BJP. it true?

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 24 Mar 2018 02:11
by kit
Cant help but definitely curious .. how does this actually work ?

Why is pappu giving more "intelligent" comments on media after his sojourn in Italy 6 months back? A crow however washed can never be a swan !!

Re: Cambridge Analytics and Next Color Revolutions India

Posted: 24 Mar 2018 02:21
by Rudradev
Shakuni Pitroda is writing his script for him.