Terroristan - April 24, 2018

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby la.khan » 25 Jul 2018 23:50

What's with the English news channels giving extensive coverage to paki elections? :eek: Like people in India give a rat's a$$ to the pig tur*s next door :P

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby ramana » 26 Jul 2018 01:33

In other news Majorly Profound has gone to market to get kaala lentils.

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Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Peregrine » 26 Jul 2018 01:44

Flight stuck at Manchester Airport for three days finally departs

A Pakistan International Airlines flight which was due to leave Manchester Airport on Saturday 21 July at 9pm has finally departed - almost three days later.

Approximately 300 passengers boarded flight PK720 bound for Islamabad on Saturday evening.

After around two hours of sitting on the stationary aircraft, cabin crew instructed passengers to disembark and return to the departure lounge because of a fault with the engine.

After waiting for further information, the weary passengers were informed at 1.30am that engineers had failed to resolve the matter and that the flight would not be departing that evening as planned.

Passengers were told to return the following evening and that the revised departure time was scheduled for 9pm on Sunday 22 July.

According to the Manchester Evening News, passengers vacated the airport and returned home, while others were taken to nearby hotels.

But, the aircraft had still not departed Manchester’s terminal two by nightfall on Monday 23 July.

Nabila Shabbir, 32, from Bolton, whose 68-year-old mother was booked on the flight, described their experience to the Evening News last night: “On Sunday night we arrived again, three hours before the flight, and the passengers were issued with updated boarding passes.

"As soon as they got into the terminal they were told about a two-hour delay. They were told there were a number of technical issues on top of the engine problem. We were told it wasn’t just the engine.

“You can imagine my mother and the other passengers were extremely anxious. We were told there’s another plane coming from Pakistan with parts for the plane. We haven’t been told when it will be fixed and to wait for further communication. But we haven’t had any clear communication. We don’t feel there’s any ownership of this from anyone. I think it will be Tuesday by the time it’s fixed.”

A spokesperson for Manchester Airport confirmed to The Independent that the severely delayed flight finally departed at 3pm today.

The Independent has also approached Pakistan International Airlines for comment.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Prem » 26 Jul 2018 02:05

anupmisra wrote:
Falijee wrote:Surprise No Security For Raheel ,In Town, Casting His Vote, Standing In Line And Chatting Like An Aam Abdul , Short Leave From Yemen Front


judging by the way the others are dressed, shaved and overall presented, this voting booth is likely to be in the safest and poshest part of garrison-e-'slummabad.

Regular Abdools wear Shalwar Kameez not shorts like these in Biddah photo.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 02:20

History Will Repeat Itself In Pakiland ( unless a cataclysmic event like a Khomeni Revolution occurs !)
The Game Plan: Longer, more cunning and intricate than we feared
Shehryar G. Khan
Editor , Dawn News
July 25,2018

About 80% of the universe is dark matter and dark energy, but we can’t see it. So how do we know it exists?
Well, you go the other way. Consider that the visible matter in the Universe, which includes, you, me, the Earth, planets, the stars and galaxies accounts for only five per cent of the cosmos, there must be something out there that constitutes the rest of it. We can’t see it, we can’t touch it, we can’t feel it — but we know it’s there.
In political terms, the equivalent of dark matter and energy, is the deep — dark — state, or the establishment. An entity that exists, permeating throughout history, throughout the state and throughout every institution of that state. We can’t see it, and we certainly can’t provide tangible evidence, but we know it’s there. Or in other — simpler — terms, what is not democracy, must be the deep state.
Hameed Haroon, the CEO of the Dawn media group was asked to provide evidence of the deep state in Pakistan in an interview with the BBC. The question was not valid because it is asking to prove an intangible phenomenon with tangible evidence.
The concept of plausible deniability and Deep State are related !
Several international observers have called the upcoming elections in Pakistan dubious to say the least. DW featured an analysis that concluded the Pakistani military is adamant that Nawaz Sharif’s party loses. The Human Rights Commission came out with a scathing report, so did the Financial Times, which called the 2018 polls the “dirtiest election in years.” What is happening in Pakistan is not without precedent however. But, the scale at which it is happening is. The endgame is near. The civilians — the democratic anti-state minions — have also, to an extent, come full circle. But it is the establishment that has really learned, honed its skills over more than 70 years of heavy political engineering, and has decided to go for the jugular after perfecting the art.
Every nation has an Army. In Pakistan, The Army has a country !
What is the jugular? It is the union of civilians and its manifestation into electoral politics — it is the existence of political parties. First the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) goes down with its leaders convicted in a shambolically weak judgment where the law was turned on its head to benefit the prosecution instead of the accused. Now, corruption cases have been filed against Asif Ali Zardari, the co-chairman of the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP). Are we to believe that both Zardari and Sharif were not corrupt five years ago? Or ten years ago? What has changed now?
In politics timing is everything . This was the right time to bring up the matter. :twisted:
Over the course of the country’s muddled history, one in which popular democratic leaders have been maligned, deposed, jailed, executed, and assassinated; there is one constant that does not seem to change with the other variables. Any party — or individual — that becomes popular enough to be able to form a majority government on its own terms, not begging for support, by default becomes a ‘threat’ to national security. That is the logic behind everything that has happened in Pakistan’s political history. Once someone becomes an enemy, the goal is always to neutralize the threat. How that is done has changed over time, and has sometimes required direct intervention by the military.
The foundation of this "artificial entity" itself was shaky . Firstly, the creation itself was a fluke and a shock to D'Jinnah the founder. Secondly, it was considered a gift from Allah. Thirdly, its citizens and its leader kept on receiving "free lunch" from USA and the landed property, and other assets robbed from the frightened and fleeing Hindus and Sikhs at the time of partition gave the (wrong) impression that the country's belief in Malsi was enough for its existence. No hard work and self sufficiency was needed . The strategic location was enough !
Overt action is usually required amidst fears of a comprehensive victory by an ‘enemy of the state’ at the time. General Yahya Khan was required when Sheikh Mujeeb swept East Pakistan and was constitutionally eligible to form the government and become prime minister of the country. In 1977, General Ziaul Haq was required when Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto had become too popular. Two decades later, in 1997, Nawaz Sharif led his party to win the absolute majority forming the government on his own in Islamabad. In the in-between periods between coups, like the ‘90s, the deep state exerted influence by supplanting the elected governments — with a combination of planting puppet presidents and promoting an alternative party. The alternative is the King’s party, and that role has been played by almost all the current actors of Pakistan’s political theatre. Nawaz Sharif excelled at it himself when he was pitted against Benazir. And, the otherwise explicitly secularly democratic Awami National Party, along with various religious fronts, played their parts in the Pakistan National Alliance (PNA) against Bhutto in the ‘70s. Today, the role is still active, and Imran Khan has been cast to play it.
Bhutto himself never respected the verdict of the people . When he rigged the elections, he gave concession after concession to the Mullahs to hold on to power. Later, he himself was hanged by the Deep State !
Pakistan was formed in 1947, but had its first general elections in 1970. There were nine in total, but the ones in 1985 and 2002 were held during periods of Martial Law, and for the purposes of building an analysis are meaningless given the absolute impunity with which they were influenced. Most of you reading this may know all of this already, but it’s a good idea to revisit hard facts and reassure ourselves that we are making a sound judgment.
1970:Sheikh Mujeeb-ur-Rehman — the one-time supporter of Fatima Jinnah in her opposition against the dictator General Ayub — leads the Awami Muslim League to a monumental victory. 151 seats are required to form the government without a coalition; Mujeeb manages 160, recording a sweeping win in East Pakistan.
Mujib was called an "Agent of India" . Nawaz is also called an Agent of India by Deep State and Imran Khan !
My scepticism, fortunately, is only for the establishment’s well established naiveté. Despite all attempts to subdue civilian authority, the electorate is maturing and we may yet be surprised to see the people bring back from the deepest pits, their ostracised leadership through the infinite power of the ballot.
IMO, the electorate is not maturing . In this day and age of globalization, the Deep State still plays the card of Malsi and hatred of India and Hindus to keep the country together. It may take generations to start with a clean slate if peace is to prevail !

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 02:29

As Expected :mrgreen:

PTI leading on 109 NA seats at 26% vote count . Election Results Pour In. PML-N And PPP Cry Foul !

Desired objective probably achieved by :twisted:
pre- rigging,
vote stamping and tampering
post rigging results

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SBajwa » 26 Jul 2018 03:03

A druggie (Charsi as he is called locally) that takes 6gm of cocaine daily, alcohol and is sexually deviant is going to become PM of a bakistan with nukes.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Prem » 26 Jul 2018 03:13

SBajwa wrote:A druggie (Charsi as he is called locally) that takes 6gm of cocaine daily, alcohol and is sexually deviant is going to become PM of a bakistan with nukes.


IOW, a perfect representative of Al-Bakistan .

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Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Peregrine » 26 Jul 2018 03:14

Why China will never say no to Pakistan

With China’s fiscal, monetary, currency and credit policies all taking a pro-growth turn, President Xi Jinping’s deleveraging campaign is clearly over. Or, at the very least, it’s going into the freezer for as long as there’s no letup in trade tensions with the US.

But what about Xi’s other pet idea? In Southeast Asia, the ambitious belt-and-road project witnessed a 36 percent year-on-year decline in investment commitments and construction contracts in the first half. The setback is temporary, according to Citigroup, which expects Beijing will yield to its partners’ concerns for the sake of its “overarching geostrategic imperatives.”

Maintaining the region’s confidence in belt-and-road may be a crucial defense against domestic fragility. The yuan is at its weakest in more than a year; banks’ reserve ratio has been cut three times; and now, following a meeting of the State Council, authorities are vowing a “more proactive” fiscal policy. The People’s Bank of China will extend credit via a medium-term lending facility for lenders to buy corporate bonds — the funding could be twice the size of purchases if the securities are rated AA or below.

All this is clearly aimed at reining in rising distress. Including the recent cross-defaults on 13 of coal miner Wintime Energy Co.’s bonds — totaling about 10 billion yuan ($1.5 billion) — the default rate in China may now be running at 0.52 percent, higher than the 2016 peak of 0.45 percent, according to ank of America Merrill Lynch’s calculations.

Southeast Asia and Pakistan may use the opportunity to shave a few billion dollars off interest costs. To the extent Beijing’s attention is diverted to fighting fires in the domestic economy, overseas recipients of Beijing’s infrastructure financing are bound to demand — and get — sweeter terms.

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Malaysia’s new Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has sent an emissary to China to renegotiate loans and contracts. In Thailand, there’s nervousness about a five-year plan to redevelop the country’s eastern seaboard as a trade and transport hub — and link it with belt-and-road.

There’s no guarantee the next civilian government will continue to back the $51 billion makeover, or that it won’t spend the money instead on farmers in the landlocked northeast.

A bigger and more immediate test for China, however, may arrive after Wednesday’s elections in Pakistan. Opposition leader Imran Khan, while not repudiating his country’s growing dependence on Beijing, hasn’t ruled out re-examining the loans for a $62 billion China-backed trade corridor if his party forms a government. Imports of machinery and transport equipment to set up the corridor have sunk the Pakistani rupee by 18 percent over the past year, leaving Islamabad in the unenviable position of managing its hard-currency shortfall by taking yet more loans from its regional neighbor.

With its own competitiveness under threat from U.S. President Donald Trump’s hawkish policies and posturing, China has an increasing need of its Asian allies — for everything from relocating low-cost manufacturing to sourcing chemicals, clothing and soybeans. Deleveraging at home can be allowed to be a casualty of a global trade war. But leaving marquee Chinese projects stranded overseas, with partners complaining about high debt and low returns? That simply won’t do.

Pakistan’s next prime minister should aim to show up in Beijing with a list of demands. Odds are, he won’t return empty-handed.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 26 Jul 2018 05:01

This time in these elections rigging of votes has been administered in massive, unprecedented scale and was carefully managed by leading institutions allied to the army. Judging by the declared results so far, its seems I'm the Dim Khan has managed to get an overwhelming majority in KP, his strong hold. In other states he has been defeated. KP is the place to rig.

Yawn report.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1422775/riggi ... -elections

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 05:39

Imran Khan to address the nation at 2pm today: Naeemul Haque

Thank Awaam ( and Deep State ) for (s) electing him :roll:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 05:43

Paki Hijras ( AKA Transgenders ) Shut Out From Election !

Thousands of transgender persons could not cast vote in Pakistan Elections 2018

LAHORE – Thousands of transgender voters could not exercise their right of the franchise in Wednesday’s general elections due to lack of proper sex identification in the computerized national identity cards (CNICs), according to a rights activist
Majority of trans voters shied away from male polling booths out of fears of being harassed
Moreover, majority of the transgender voters – who are registered under gender ‘X’ – shied away from the polling stations in their respective places of birth to avoid facing their relatives.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 26 Jul 2018 06:44

OK. one technique the Deep State has adopted this time was to throw out the agents of PML-N & PPP during counting process!!

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 26 Jul 2018 07:59

yensoy wrote:As for the elimination of hate and the jihadi narrative... It wouldn't be a stretch to say that every time there has been an apparent rapprochement in ties, there is some kind of asinine Pak Army action that leads to war or war-like conditions. . . . Stating this differently, it is my claim that Kargil or Gibraltar were Pak operations not primarily directed at India, rather at ensuring the Paki military's supremacy in their own country.

yensoy, that is so very true.

There is also a deeper factor at play.

FM Ayub Khan was by no stretch of imagination a character akin to Gen. Zia as far as Islamism went. In fact, Ayub detested mullahs etc. But, he too initially underestimated their power and hold over the masses. Ultimately, he was the one to rename Pakistan, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. He had to release Mawdudi and seek his guidance (and pardon perhaps?). He invoked Islamist symbolisms to defeat Fatima Jinnah. The 1965 war extensively used Islamic symbolism right from invoking the name of Khalid-bin-Waleed & his Gibraltar conquest etc.

Same goes with ZAB. The secular socialist did more to introduce Islamism in all walks of life and everywhere, more than even Gen. Zia and before him too. This is not realized by many. He listed out all he had done for Islamism when he was accused during his death trial that he was not 'Ameen' as a Muslim and therefore fit for being deposed and tried. Therefore, Gen. Zia can be a convenient coat-hanger for some to blame for jihadism & Islamism but ZAB takes the cake in my view. Some might argue that ZAB was also forced to adopt such a line for political survival, but that exactly reinforces my point namely that there is an overwhelming mass support from common folk of Pakistan for jihadism & Islamism that nobody can ignore in Pakistan and still hope to rule that country.

Or, take the case of Ms. Benazir Bhutto or Nawaz Sharif or even Musharraf for that matter. Musharraf ruled with the help of mullahs and couldn't lift his little finger against their wishes, whether it was madrasseh registration, curricula, enlightenment, support for jihadism etc.

Can there be any greater example than Jinnah himself? The pork-eater, wine-swigger, non-observer of Ramadan fasting and a person who wasn't even aware of proper Muslim prayers etc. had to accommodate with the 'Greatest Islamist Thinker of the Twentieth Century', Abu-ala-al-Mawdudi and other jihadi Isalimists of Deoband and NWFP to secure Pakistan. Without them, Pakistan might not even have come about as smoothly as it eventually did. There is even well-informed opinion that the Objectives Resolution that formalized the Islamic nature of Pakistan and condemned non-Muslims as third-class citizens had been devised with his blessing and was implemented within six months of his death. All minority members walked out and a lone Communist opposed that bill; all the rest supported it.

The point here is that there is a groundswell for such Islamist policies and the PA keeps a 'watchful' eye over deviations and guillotines at appropriate times. The political class must implement an 'enduring hostility with India' plan while the PA continues with its 'never ending war' (as C.Fair says). It then either usurps power or brings in another puppet. It is for that reason that the PA is celebrated as the only 'functional institution'. Its repeated failures in its sole duty to defend territorial frontiers are ignored because it has survived to fight India another day.

Finally, I do accept your last statement but I would also say that there is only a fine line between 'anti-India operations' and 'maintaining local supremacy within Pakistan' and that also blurs in the giant sea-like swell of 'jihadi Islamism' within Pakistan because one reinforce the other in this circular causal nexus.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby chetak » 26 Jul 2018 08:19

SSridhar wrote:OK. one technique the Deep State has adopted this time was to throw out the agents of PML-N & PPP during counting process!!


using a puppet like IK, the PA has entered the legislature and any dealings that the GoI has to do now will be direct with the paki army, just like they have been waiting for the longest time.

Is there anyone who can give us the gist of the points being discussed currently in the track thoo process.

Modi would have cast a big shadow over the usual pakjabi pappi jhappi, single malts, and tandoori fests.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Manish_P » 26 Jul 2018 08:26

SBajwa wrote:A druggie (Charsi as he is called locally) that takes 6gm of cocaine daily, alcohol and is sexually deviant is going to become PM of a bakistan with nukes.


Just a small point, his (or any one else for that matter) becoming PM has nothing to do with the Nukes. They always were and always will be under the sole control of the uniformed Jihadis.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Vikas » 26 Jul 2018 09:35

Clamor now would start in Lutyen to invite 'Darling' Immy to New Delhi for a new opening otherwise back to #IntolerantModi

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 26 Jul 2018 09:37

Immy would copy the Modi template and invite South Asian leaders for his inauguration.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby yensoy » 26 Jul 2018 10:15

SSridhar wrote:Immy would copy the Modi template and invite South Asian leaders for his inauguration.


Just need to be sure we aren't the first country to turn the invitation down.

Send Tendulkar instead. He is also a cricketer, highly decorated and a member of Parliament. Should be more than equal=equal for IK.

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Postby Pulikeshi » 26 Jul 2018 11:30

Yensoy wrote:As for the elimination of hate and the jihadi narrative... It wouldn't be a stretch to say that every time there has been an apparent rapprochement in ties, there is some kind of asinine Pak Army action that leads to war or war-like conditions. . . . Stating this differently, it is my claim that Kargil or Gibraltar were Pak operations not primarily directed at India, rather at ensuring the Paki military's supremacy in their own country.


SSridhar wrote:Finally, I do accept your last statement but I would also say that there is only a fine line between 'anti-India operations' and 'maintaining local supremacy within Pakistan' and that also blurs in the giant sea-like swell of 'jihadi Islamism' within Pakistan because one reinforce the other in this circular causal nexus.


There is no line wine....

Goal: Maintaining supremacy of the Army
Catalyst: Allah, “Islam katare me hai” and jihadi islamism
Tool: Anti India operations to keep the problem simmering
Aids: 3.5

The Army runs a numb nuts country to its own benefit and why not?
Its also true that all this works because India is also complicit in allowing this as least cost option. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :shock:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Pulikeshi » 26 Jul 2018 11:37

yensoy wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Immy would copy the Modi template and invite South Asian leaders for his inauguration.


Just need to be sure we aren't the first country to turn the invitation down.

Send Tendulkar instead. He is also a cricketer, highly decorated and a member of Parliament. Should be more than equal=equal for IK.


What do you have against Tendulakr :P
Why not send a CM? After all them Paki were/should be (four) state(s) of India? :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Raja Ram » 26 Jul 2018 11:58

What happened to the Qadri fellow? Did he not contest in these (s)elections of Pakistan?

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 15:41

EU Election Observer Mission "Conned" By Deep State :roll:

Elections were satisfactory, says EU Election Observation Mission

ISLAMABAD: European Union (EU) Election Observation Mission to Pakistan (EOMP) Chief Observer (CO) Michael Gahler has said that the general elections in Pakistan were satisfactory.Gahler said, “Our observers visited as many as 300 polling stations in 87 constituencies and I have personally visited four polling stations, there is improvement compared to the previous election held in 2013.”“We will release our preliminary report on Friday and a detailed report will be released later after assessing the overall situation,” the EU EOMP CO added.The EU EOMP had forwarded 50 electoral reccomendation to Pakistan following the 2013 elections and the country has included 36 out of 50 in its electoral law, he also said.

While all the local political parties - and the Paki Media - are crying foul over the whole (s) election process, the "idiots" at the EU Election Observation Mission have given their so-called "stamp of approval" based on visits to 300 polling stations (probably pre-selected for them) where things were probably "fixed" ! :evil:

PAKI MEDIA PRINTING "FAKE NEWS" AS ABOVE !! See Below !!


EUEOMPakistan2018
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The #EU EOM has not yet given its assessment of the elections. It will do so on 27 July. The Chief Observer met many media at polling stations yesterday. He said as far as the polling stations he’d visited which was a tiny sample - polling procedures were satisfactory. 1/3
12:34 AM - 26 Jul 2018 :D
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Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 15:53

Jemima Goldsmith
‏Verified account @Jemima_Khan

22 years later, after humiliations, hurdles and sacrifices, my sons’ father is Pakistan’s next PM. It’s an incredible lesson in tenacity, belief & refusal to accept defeat. The challenge now is to remember why he entered politics in the 1st place. Congratulations @ImranKhanPTI

But, but .... what about the Peerni :D . No congrats from her side ? PM ship prediction coming true ? :roll:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 26 Jul 2018 15:56

Has Pakistan rejected hardline Islamist parties? - Shailaja Neelakantan, ToI
Pakistan appears to have strongly rejected hardline Islamist parties, including terrorist Hafiz Saeed-backed Allahu Akbar Tehreek (AAT) :rotfl: , going by the latest counting trends as reported by newspaper Dawn.

In counting for 272 seats, Dawn's results table shows zero candidates leading or in second place from the AAT, which fielded some 50 candidates.

As for the Tehreek Labbaik Pakistan (TLP), the Islamist group that brought Islamabad to a standstill last November, it does feature in the results table, showing as trailing - on precisely one seat. This party -- whose raison d étre is the protection of the blasphemy law - was formed as recently as in 2015 and it fielded a whopping 152 candidates.

If these trends hold strong AAT and TLP would draw a blank in the 272-seat Pakistan National Assembly.

MMA as kingmaker?

To be sure, leading in nine seats is the religio-political parties' alliance -Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA)- which comprises the ultra-conservative, Islamist, religious, and far-right parties of Pakistan. But consider that this lot put up candidates in as many as 173 constituencies and are leading in only fewer than 10.

This party though, even if leading in only nine seats, could be the one that props Imran Khan's Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Party (PTI), which might fall short of an outright majority, which is 137 seats. PTI is said to be leading in 113 seats as of Thursday noon.

If PTI does join forces with the MMA, the all-powerful army could gain an upper hand.

"Imran's is (the) largest single party but without a majority by himself he'll depend on independents and small parties' support, almost certainly MMA - which will follow military instructions. Which means if he does things the military considers out of line, support can be pulled," analysed Congress MP Shashi Tharoor.

Still, it’s some comfort in a nation beset by terror - both as perpetrator and victim. In the months leading up to the election, it was feared the Saeed-backed AAT and the TLP would gain big ground. The TLP and MMA (and to some extent AAT) fielded more candidates - relatively speaking - than many parties who've been active in politics in the country for decades and decades, reported Dawn last week.

Hafiz Saeed circumvents law

26/11 Mumbai terror attack mastermind Saeed - the chief of terror outfits Lashkar-e-Toiba and Jaish-e-Mohammed - who roams freely in Pakistan fomenting hate and inciting terror, couldn't field candidates directly through his political outfit Milli Muslim League (MML).

After widespread condemnation by the US, the Pakistan election commission early in June rejected (for the second time) an application to register MML as a political party. What did he do then? The 200 candidates backed by the MML contested the election under the banner of the Allah-o-Akbar Tehreek, which was already registered with Pakistan's election commission.

For all their machinations, their first political outing looks like a big fail.

The blasphemy law party

Of all the Islamist groups that contested, it's the TLP's rise that was most troubling.

TLP was formed as late as in 2015 and shot to prominence last November when more than 2,000 of its members and supporters staged a three-week-long sit-in at the intersection of the twin cities of Rawalpindi and Islamabad, crippling life in the region.

They were supported by another hardline group called the Pakistan Sunni Tehreek. And the heated protests were on the issue of what was called the 'Khatm-i-Nubuwat declaration'.


That is, they were protesting a small change - which the government soon called a "clerical error" - to the oath taken by parliamentary candidates. What was altered was that a candidate need just say they "believe" rather than "solemnly swear by" the fact that the Prophet Muhammad is the final prophet.

This was blasphemy as far as the TLP was concerned. It was enraged. The TLP not only demonstrated but also instigated clashes in which half a dozen people lost their lives and more than 300 people were injured. Another casualty was the then law minister Zahid Hamid, whom the TLP declared a "blasphemer". He had to resign.

Well, if electoral trends hold strong, that resignation was their last victory for a while.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 26 Jul 2018 15:57

Falijee wrote:Jemima Goldsmith

22 years later, after humiliations, hurdles and sacrifices, my sons’ father is Pakistan’s next PM. It’s an incredible lesson in tenacity, belief & refusal to accept defeat. The challenge now is to remember why he entered politics in the 1st place. Congratulations @ImranKhanPTI

What's so wrong with this woman?


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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 26 Jul 2018 16:42

SSridhar wrote:
Falijee wrote:Jemima Goldsmith

22 years later, after humiliations, hurdles and sacrifices, my sons’ father is Pakistan’s next PM. It’s an incredible lesson in tenacity, belief & refusal to accept defeat. The challenge now is to remember why he entered politics in the 1st place. Congratulations @ImranKhanPTI

What's so wrong with this woman?


Glutton for punishment + Stockholm syndrome + low self esteem

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 26 Jul 2018 16:43

Has I'm the dim congratulated peerniji yet for having faith and trust in him?

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 17:42

Hollow Victory For Paki PM Imran Khan :roll:

Prime Minister Imran Khan is the last thing Pakistan needs
July 24, 2018
Jon Boone

Pity Pakistan. In recent weeks it has suffered one of its worst ever terrorist attacks, with 149 people blown to bits. The rupee is crashing as the economy teeters on the brink of a debt crisis. And the country has been put on an international financial watchlist because of its failure to take action against terrorists.Worst of all, Imran Khan is about to become the country’s next prime minister.
If euphoria is to be believed, this has happened !
For readers with only a passing interest in this turbulent country, Khan’s likely victory in Wednesday’s general elections may seem like no bad thing. In the UK he is presumed to be a good’un: a glamorous, anglophile cricket-star playboy who talks a good game about fighting corruption. His politics are presumed to be as liberal as his private life.
:mrgreen:
So, Prime Minister Imran could come as quite a shock for many people.
For one thing, he’s no liberal. In fact, he spits out the word “liberal” as an insult, often combining it with the word “fascist” to describe those Pakistanis who think there should be a zero-tolerance policy towards the Pakistani Taliban, one of the most indiscriminately lethal terrorist groups in the world. Khan is the group’s highest profile apologist. At the peak of the Taliban’s terror campaign in 2014 Khan was pleading for them, saying they were “confused”. He thought the Taliban should be given an office in Peshawar from where they could parlay with the government. He bitterly opposed a military confrontation with the group, saying it would only fuel more violence.
Not for nothing he is AKA Taliban Khan !
As things turned out, Khan was wrong and the liberal fascists were right. After much foot dragging, largely caused by Khan’s noisy opposition, the army finally assaulted North Waziristan. The rate of Taliban violence fell precipitously. :cry:
He is still sucking up to extremists. The provincial government of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa controlled by his party, the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), has funnelled taxpayer cash to the madrassa run by Sami-ul-Huq, an infamous extremist cleric known as the “father of the Taliban” because he taught so many militant leaders. Khan describes the insurgency against the elected, internationally-recognised government in Kabul as a legitimate “resistance”.
More recently Khan has been pandering to the country’s Barelvis, the community once regarded as benign Sufis but which have become murderously radicalised in recent years over the subject of “blasphemy”. A particular Barelvi obsession is the Muslim Ahmadiyya Community, a tiny sect they regard as heretics. But anti-Ahmadi bigotry is popular. Khan has gone out of his way to emphasise his support for the laws that criminalise Ahmadis for following their religion as they wish.
The Kaptaan just might need the support of these extreme religious parties to come to power, so it makes sense from THAT point of view !
If Khan’s thoughts on extremism and militancy are dangerous, his solutions for Pakistan’s economic problems are childish: elect better leaders (ie, Khan), put corrupt politicians in prison and recover their “looted” wealth.
And on top of that, he has promised to make Pakistan, "a Norway like Islamic Welfare State" !!! ( where is the money coming from :roll: )
To pick one example, Khan has had nothing of substance to say about how to fix the country’s awful automobile sector. The entire market has been carved up by just three companies. No competition means terrible cars at high prices, low production, fewer jobs than there might be and big profits for the owners. The cheapest car in the country is something called a Suzuki Mehran, a dismal contraption that according to 2011 research was 32 per cent more expensive than the same model in India (where it has now been phased out).
In Pakistan, the local auto industry is mostly "import and assemble" job. No indigenous production of parts and engines . That is NOT the case in India ! This is a country, that after 70 years has not even product an A to Z home made bicycle , IMO !
Khan likes to promise quick results, famously saying he will “fix corruption in 90 days”.But Pakistan has spent decades digging itself into a hole of cavernous proportions. It cannot escape in a single leap.
The only conceivable way the situation might be rectified involves the slow and steady entrenchment of democracy. Successive cycles of free and fair elections would allow politicians to gradually stop worrying about the next coup and instead concentrate on delivering for the people. Governance would improve. The enfeebled institutions of civilian rule would grow stronger.
The Army will not allow this to happen . They are the so-called guardians of Paki Ideology !
At some point civilians would do what has long been unthinkable: grapple back control over foreign and defence policy, two areas the army think is its exclusive domain. That could lead to the end of the incredibly expensive and pointless 70-year conflict with India (and the army-backed Islamists used in that conflict). Cross border trade and human happiness in a region of 1.5bn people would boom
Unlikely to happen, IMO !
For a time it seemed Pakistan was moving in that hopeful direction after the country’s last military ruler, Pervez Musharraf, was turfed from office in 2008. The two main parties – Sharif’s PML-N and Benazir Bhutto’s Pakistan People’s Party – struck an agreement to jointly resist any efforts by the military to undermine civilian rule. Most importantly, they vowed never to conspire with the army to bring down a government, as Sharif had done in past. Then, in 2013, history was made when one elected government replaced another for the first time.Alas, Khan has scuppered that positive trend.He has treated parliament with contempt, despite an extraordinary 2013 breakthrough when he came within a squeak of being the second largest party. The result was not good enough for Khan. He refused to accept the result and peddled conspiracy theories that the election had been rigged, even though international observers declared the poll the cleanest in Pakistan’s history.
When the Election Commission duly investigated and found no evidence of systematic cheating Khan took to the streets. For four months in 2014 Khan held the capital, Islamabad, to ransom. He marched thousands of his supporters into the city and parked a re-purposed, air-conditioned sea-container outside the National Assembly. From there he harangued the “cursed” parliament. He said he would not leave unless Sharif resigned. He scarcely concealed his hope that the standoff would provoke a crisis that would force the army to intervene on his behalf – “the umpire will raise his finger” he promised the crowds.
On September 1 Khan unleashed his mobs onto key government buildings. Khan’s supporters invaded and briefly took over the state broadcaster PTV. They swarmed onto the grounds of parliament. It did not precipitate the crisis he hoped for. But it did help normalise the practice of mobs descending on Islamabad threatening violent confrontations.Khan’s behaviour during the current election campaign has been even more disgraceful.
He has had nothing to say about an industrial-strength campaign of “pre-poll rigging” orchestrated on his behalf by the Pakistan Army. It is not that the army particularly love Khan. But they are desperate to knock out Sharif, a man who obstinately believes in civilian supremacy, peace with India and accountability for former army chiefs who instigate coups.
The army has gone to extraordinary lengths to neutralise Sharif, who was until recently the odds-on favourite to win. Media deemed favourable to Sharif have had their distribution choked. Non-compliant journalists and bloggers have been threatened and kidnapped. The media’s coverage of the election has been so one-sided that at times it has seemed as if only the PTI is running.
Army intelligence officers have compelled some PML-N candidates to jump ship to Khan. They have used crude threats and, astonishingly, the promise of positions in Khan’s government. Dozens have indeed defected. International election monitors have been prevented from entering the country in time to do their work properly. Sharif himself has been knocked out of running after Pakistan’s increasingly wild judiciary disqualified him from office for a minor breach of electoral law based on evidence provided by the army’s intelligence wing. Crucial indirect elections to the upper house of parliament were manipulated to prevent Sharif’s party from gaining a majority.
Imran Khan, the great hope for a “Naya (New) Pakistan”, has not called out any of this. Not the bashing of the media, not the kidnapping and torture of dissident bloggers, not the dodgy legal rulings, not the menacing of politicians by the deep state. He has stood by whilst the elections have become the “dirtiest, most micromanaged in the country’s history”, according to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.
So, if Khan does win on Wednesday it will be a hollow victory. His power will be heavily constrained, both by the coalition partners he will likely need to govern, and by the deep state whose electoral engineering he has embraced.
As predicted, he has won! ( not officially, as of this writing )
Worse, millions of Sharif’s supporters will not accept Khan as a legitimate prime minister. By failing to stand up to Pakistan’s deep state, Khan has been complicit in damaging the country’s most important institutions: the government, the judiciary, the media. Also, ironically, the army: recent days have seen unprecedented demonstrations outside the headquarters of the ISI in Islamabad and scattered anti-army protests in normally pro-military Punjab.
Even before he has taken power, Imran Khan has set his country back decades. :D

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 26 Jul 2018 17:48

Per BBC (I know, I know...) the voter turnout was between 50% and 55%.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 26 Jul 2018 18:10

anupmisra wrote:Has I'm the dim congratulated peerniji yet for having faith and trust in him?

Wasn't it the Peerni who predicted his victory provided he married her?

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 26 Jul 2018 18:11

Anyway, Kaptan will soon find that there is a super Kaptan and his name is Qamar Javed Bajwa.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 26 Jul 2018 18:34

SSridhar wrote:
anupmisra wrote:Has I'm the dim congratulated peerniji yet for having faith and trust in him?

Wasn't it the Peerni who predicted his victory provided he married her?


She promised him victory provided he married her. She also made him partial to sufism. One of those self-fulfilling prophesies. Win-win situation. He becomes PM, she becomes moral-in-charge.

(By the way, I admit defeat in this case. After the recent mayhem I had predicted the army to physically step in and post pone the elections. I was wrong)

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 26 Jul 2018 18:34

SSridhar wrote:Anyway, Kaptan will soon find that there is a super Kaptan and his name is Qamar Javed Bajwa.


I think we used to call them non-playing captains.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby rsingh » 26 Jul 2018 20:01

Every new Bakistani PM (elected) tries to create problems in Kashmir. They do this to keep popular support and are encouraged by Harami Army.For now he is NOT RAW agent (as it was declared by one esteemed hot gas machine. But wait for some time.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 26 Jul 2018 20:03

The Dummy Speaketh - ToI
On Kashmir

"Kashmir remains our biggest contention. It is unfortunate that Kashmir, which is the core issue between the two countries, has suffered immense human rights violations at the hands of the Indian Army in the last 30 years {This is not a good way to start the relationship. We must cite this single statement to refuse talks with the Dummy.} . The leadership of Pakistan and India now need to come to the table to resolve this and end the blame games. We are stuck at square one," he said.

On ties with India

"If leadership in India is ready then I will want to strengthen the relationship between the two countries. The strengthening of ties between the two nations will be beneficial for subcontinent as well."

"If India comes and takes one step towards us, we will take two steps toward them. {Haven't we heard this before?} Right now it is one-sided where India is constantly just blaming us," he said.

On trade ties

"The trade ties between India and Pakistan should improve for not only the benefit of the two countries but for South Asia as well. If we want to have a poverty-free subcontinent then we must have good relations and trade ties."

"I am that Pakistani who believes that to improve economics in the subcontinent trade between India and Pakistan is important," he said.

On Indian media

"It pained me to see the way Indian media portrayed me in the last few months. I was depicted like a villain in Bollywood movies. I am one of those Pakistanis that wants good relations with India." :rotfl:

"It seemed like India feared every thing bad would happen if Imran Khan came into power. "

"As far as India is concerned; I was disappointed with how Indian media portrayed me in the past few weeks. As a villain. I am that Pakistani who has travelled through India because of my cricket," he said.

On his familiarity with India

"I am a person who arguably knows the most people in India because of my days in cricket. We can resolve the poverty crisis in South East Asia {South East Asia did you say, dummy?}. The biggest problem is Kashmir."

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby IndraD » 26 Jul 2018 21:16

Kashmiris are suffering for long. We have to solve Kashmir issue by sitting across the table, If India's leadership is willing then the both of us can solve this issue through dialogue. It will be good for the subcontinent also: Imran Khan,PTI Chief
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1022458912392585216
NEW DELHI: The sprawling homes of Pakistan's Prime Minister will be dedicated to the people and turned into an educational institution. The official residences of Governors will be part of the sweeping austerity measure -- they will be turned into hotels or any other revenue-generating venture and the proceeds to go towards lifting the economy, said Imran Khan in a victory speech this evening even before the results of yesterday's elections were announced.
"I feel ashamed that I will be staying in the Prime Minister's palace. I will stay in a smaller house," Mr Khan said, writing off the sprawling mansion where the heads of state have been living since 1970s. "My promise to you is to fix public spending, end the economic crisis," he added.

Striking resemblance with Kejriwal!

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 21:40

Raja Ram wrote:What happened to the Qadri fellow? Did he not contest in these (s)elections of Pakistan?


Raja Ram -ji : Some background on the "sufi Mullah" ( favorite of Mush and Immy )

1.Tahir -ul-Qadri (AKA "Shopping- Mall Mullah" as he preaches in Toronto Shopping Malls ! ) , with his Kannadian Passport, has a good thing going for him . (There were persistent rumours in desi circles that he was "collecting welfare" in Toronto, while also preaching (could be false rumours ! :twisted: )
2 To escape the hard and harsh Canadian winter, he sojourns, without fail, to his native Pakiland. Indulges in some Paki politicking and mischief making (La-Whore "dharna" ) to pass time. And flies "home" like the proverbial snowbird ! :mrgreen:
-"Free" medical care- at his old age - is one of the perks of being a Canadian National ( in his case, according to Paki laws, being a dual nationality holder, he is not eligible for MNA -ship !)
3. So, with all these "good thing going for him" , why would he make bhooka nanga Pakiland, his home 24/7. Best of both worlds ! :mrgreen:


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