Terroristan - April 24, 2018

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby nam » 26 Jul 2018 21:51

If India comes and takes one step towards us, we will take two steps toward them.

So if India takes one step back, will Pak take two steps back?

I hope we find out by not even acknowledging the joker. If asked, we respond, who becomes their PM is their internal matter and we nothing to say.

I am a person who arguably knows the most people in India because of my days in cricket. We can resolve the poverty crisis in South East Asia

We are doing really well in reducing poverty, ignoring the "South East Asians". I think we will follow the path.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 26 Jul 2018 22:11

nam wrote:So if India takes one step back, will Pak take two steps back?


Coincidence that you asked this "what if" question? The timing is perfect - Kargil Day, which is today. India took "one step back" (soldiers moved back to lower elevations) and bullshitistan took "two steps forward" and occupied those vacated Indian positions, and the rest was history.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SBajwa » 26 Jul 2018 22:16

SSridhar wrote:
Falijee wrote:Jemima Goldsmith

22 years later, after humiliations, hurdles and sacrifices, my sons’ father is Pakistan’s next PM. It’s an incredible lesson in tenacity, belief & refusal to accept defeat. The challenge now is to remember why he entered politics in the 1st place. Congratulations @ImranKhanPTI

What's so wrong with this woman?


She spent the maximum time with Immy the dim because they were both drug buddies taking cocaine.
Marriage with Reham khan failed because she was not Immy's drug buddie and genuinely tried to take him off drugs and failed.

Also Immy has 6 kids in India and many others all over world. He is also into bachabazi and has 2-3 males living with him. According to Reham khan Immy get excited when he sees a good looking male.
Marriage with Jemima broke because Immy the dim cannot get it up anymore even after taking 5 blue pills and she needed sex.

Also!! reminder AAK Niazi aka Tiger Niazi that signed the surrender document at Dhaka is Immy the Dim's uncle (chacha)
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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby rsingh » 26 Jul 2018 22:24

Xi may pop-up in slamabed on way back from BRICS. It is so important for Immi.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby rsingh » 26 Jul 2018 22:29

Also!! reminder AAK Niazi aka Tiger Niazi that signed the surrender document at Dhaka is Immy the Dim's uncle (chacha)


Allah (PBUH) be praised how is that? So he is Khan or Niazi? What kind of strange mix is it?

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Vikas » 26 Jul 2018 22:32

So now Immy is the PM and NS is in Jail. Mission accomplished Pak army.
What next for Terrorist army ? What new frontiers to conquer and which new enemies to defeat ?

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 26 Jul 2018 23:04

The "Good Haqqani's" Take On Imran Khan's Victory .

Imran Khan’s elevation won’t make a dent in Pakistan’s reputation as a ‘crisis state’
Hussein Haqqani
July 26, 2018

The result of Pakistan’s 25 July election was foretold. The pre-polling environment had been muddied by the blatant meddling of the country’s all-powerful military, assisted by a judiciary eager to please the generals. The results – a disputed victory for cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan and his Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf (PTI) party– won’t make a dent in Pakistan’s reputation as a ‘crisis state.’ Agree 100% !
The establishment has wanted to root out the two previously dominant political parties, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) for some time now. This time, it ignored international criticism of the one-sidedness of the election process and believes it has completed the job.
The Election Commission brazenly claimed technical glitches without explaining why they delayed results even more than in the older era of fewer technical means.Some of the 371,388 troops ostensibly on security duty did not care if they were photographed violating the sanctity of secret ballot or telling the polling staff what to do.
As time passes, actual examples of such shenanigans will be reported. But then, it will be too late for rectification ( Imran, in his speech has "promised" to look into each and every case of such "complaint" !)
The army chief, General Qamar Bajwa, explained the military’s interest in the outcome of the election. “We are the target of inimical forces working against Pakistan,” he declared, adding, “We’ve come a long way in our comprehensive national effort to fail them.” The people of Pakistan were expected to show that they were ‘united and steadfast’ by voting and defeating the ‘inimical forces.’
Bajwa Pajwa had earlier complained that Pakiland is facing a fifth generation warfare !
We have no idea how he would deal with the looming financial crisis, as Pakistan’s debt payments fall due, or the continued pressure from the UN’s Financial Action Task Force (FATF) to shut down finances of terrorist groups.
Every new leader in any country promises "everything". But once "inside the Govt" changes his tune . Imran will also face similar challenges !
Not only will Pakistan’s reputation as a crisis-prone country not end with this election, the circumstances before the election and the disputed result, both, will contribute to a deeper crisis of legitimacy.Imran Khan will need coalition partners to form a government and would eventually need to reach out to his opposition. But he is a combative, polarising figure who would need to change his personality to learn the art of compromise.
IMO, he will be courting the religious parties for their support. In his "victory speech", he harped back- like all Paki leaders before him- on the so-called golden age of Malsi, where "justice" was delivered, where the poor were taken care off , etc etc :mrgreen:
In helping Imran Khan fulfil his dream of becoming prime minister, the military-intelligence establishment’s objectives and script are like the one in 1990 when Nawaz Sharif was the chosen one.Then, the generals believed that a pro-business conservative would help Pakistan’s international negotiating position in the aftermath of the Pressler amendment, which suspended US aid to Pakistan over its nuclear programme.
Imran Khan is not Nawaz Sharif. He is 65-years-old and might opt for not challenging the short-sighted generals even after (or rather, if) he recognises the futility of their obsessions. He could be content with being Prime Minister and manage some aspects of government, without confronting the generals over altering the country’s course.
But if he decides to do what Pakistan really needs –a shift away from Jihad and militarism, peace and normal relations with neighbours, investment in human capital to pave the way for economic growth – then we will see a rerun of the civil-military shadow plays we have all seen before.
After the "honeymoon phase" with the fauj is over, it will be interesting to know if he tackles military corruption as well !

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby ramana » 26 Jul 2018 23:05

SS, Maybe Rahul Gandhi might invite himself as potential PM and give a hug to Immy.
And he might keep him.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby chetak » 26 Jul 2018 23:27

ramana wrote:SS, Maybe Rahul Gandhi might invite himself as potential PM and give a hug to Immy.
And he might keep him.


IK may invite Modi for his swearing in.

We should send the MOS Gen VK Singh or a minister like Raghavendra Rathore.

that should cool the paki ardor a little bit.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 27 Jul 2018 00:04

This Veteran Indian Diplomat Says That Hussein Haqqani's New Book On Pakistan Does Not Provide Any Solution To Pakistan's Problems :Dl]

Pakistan: Reality and reimagining
Ravi Joshi- Economic Times
July 25, 2018

As Pakistan goes to the polls, there is a sense of déjà vu, with the Deep State (the Army and the ISI with the judiciary playing a supporting role)now propping up Imran Khan as their favorite leader against Nawaz Sharif, just as it hadpropped up Nawaz Sharif against Benazir Bhutto in 1990. Similarly, Islamist extremist groups are being mainstreamed today just as Gen. Musharraf brought in the Muttahida Majlis- i- Amal, a coalition of ‘Islam pasand’ parties strung together by the Army, into Parliament in the elections of 2002. History repeats itself as a farce with tragic consequences to the people. The Generals do not seem to learn that you cannot get different results from the same pattern of behavior. ( One definition of insanity !) And they are unwilling to change. That’s the crux of a new book by Husain Haqqani – ‘Reimagining Pakistan:Transforming a Dysfunctional Nuclear State’.How can you reimagine a country that refuses to change, despite all its past follies?
By all indications Pakistan’s present is scary. It’s a ‘dysfunctional nuclear state’. Its future is nightmarish as the nuclear weapons are likely to fall into the hands of Islamic extremists with whom Imran Khan is closely associated. He is called ‘Imran Taliban’ for a good reason. And how does one imagine a ‘nightmare’. What are the constituents of a ‘nightmare’? That in effect is the challenge of Haqqani’s book; to ‘reimagine’ Pakistan and transform it.
While the book is a brilliant exposition of all that’s wrong with Pakistan, it disappoints on its key promise; the ‘Reimagining’ part.Reimagining can be done in two ways. First is to take up the accepted notions and narratives and reimagine them by questioning their basic premises. This is done with emphatic assurance of a scholar who deeply understands his country and empathizes with its plight. Almost every page has a fresh insight into the old narrative, analyzing the accepted notions of its ‘flawed inheritance’ and its founding principles; fears and insecurity that bred jihadi terrorists either to fight the former Soviet Union, or to wage war in Kashmir; its asymmetrical relationship with India that compelled it to seek nuclear weapons rather than build schools and hospitals to produce healthy and educated youth who could build a modern state with a stable and prosperous future. And he calls this imagination as the ‘March of Folly’ in the words of Barbara Tuchman. Quoting Tuchman he explains that ‘apolicy is considered a folly based on three criteria: “first, the policy adopted must have been perceived as counter-productive in its own time, not merely by hindsight; second, a feasible alternative course of action must have been available; and third, the policy in question should be that of a group, not an individual ruler, and should persist beyond one political lifetime.” Clearly, counter-productive policies seem to be the default mode of policy making in Pakistan.
Second, is the kind of imagination that ‘transforms’ reality. Like Nehru’s imagination of a new India, which must have been a daunting challenge in 1947. It is this transformative imagination that is missing. Haqqani knows the pulse of his country; fears that it is terminally ill, correctly diagnoses and describes the illness in all its varied details but fails to prescribe a panacea for its ills. Probably there is no one single remedy and even if there is one the patient will not take it, due to addiction to past habits and the unmitigated certainty that neither America nor China will let it fail. If America has bailed out the country for the last 70 years, so will China do for the next 70 years. China is siding with Pakistan as a hedge against India being close to USA. ( IMO) !
Haqqani looks at some of the countries that were in a far worse position than Pakistan in the mid-1940s, such as Germany and Japan that were practically born out of the ashes to attainunprecedented levels of social development and economic prosperity.
Pakistan sought help from USA only to counter India . Much of the aid was misused or used to fight India !
As Haqqani points out, Pakistan has not done badly either in getting from the US a massive sum of $45.147 billion, between 1954 to 2017,which is certainly a bigger chunk than what any single European country received. Interestingly, Pakistan is the only country that America has given so much aid without bombing it first. But then why hasn’t Pakistan grown like any of the European countries? The fault, dear Brutus, is in their ‘imagination’ or the poverty of it.
Haqqani also raises the question as to whether Pakistan could possibly go the way of Yugoslavia and break up into its ethnic parts, with a separate Baluchistan, and a Pakthunistanthat may join Afghanistan (as the former US Ambassador Robert Blackwill had suggested). If the Bengalis of East Pakistan could revolt against Punjabi domination in 1971, the Balouchcould do it too and they have been fighting for their freedom ever since 1948. Will Pakistan disintegrate or will it continue as one unit?
Imran, the new PM to be, in his speech , has asked the Baluchis to "join him" in making Pakiland prosperous :roll:
A new lifeline thrown at Pakistan may keep it floating, perhaps for the next 70 years. Thanks toPresident Xi Jinping and his grand inter-continental imagination of ‘One Belt One Road’, the China-Pakistan Economic Cooperation is promising to invest more than $44 billion(almost equal to the entire sum provided by the US in 63 years) package of projects at modernizing its infrastructure and connectivity with China and rest of Asia.
China is not in the business of bailing out economically distressed nations such as Pakistan. !
The size of CPEC investments is about 16% of Pakistan’s 2016 GDP. (This is the same as our tax to GDP ratio, and one of the main reasons that Pakistan desperately needs external donors is that it hardly taxes its people). As Haqqanisays ‘ironically, CPEC is seen by Pakistan not merely in economic terms but as a security guarantee of China’s commitment to their country’.
Perhaps China will bail it out. Pakistan willmortgage its geo-strategic location to China and live off the rent as it did with America in the past. But being a rentier-state to China may be a different ball game altogether. That poses new challenges internally to Pakistan and externally to India.
The tragedy of Haqqani’s book is that it is unlikely to be read by those who rule Pakistan. And even if they do, they are unlikely to change, for that would go against their core interests. And its next seventy years would be far more troubled and troubling for the region.
IMO, nothing less than a Khomeni type of Islamic revolution can do away with the corrupt generals . But then it will bring in a more radical form of Malsi, a nightmare for the RAPE types of Pakiland :twisted:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 27 Jul 2018 00:46

So, all this promise of building a "naya pakistan". Big deal! India is building millions of naya pakistans every year for its citizens.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SBajwa » 27 Jul 2018 00:53

rsingh wrote:
Also!! reminder AAK Niazi aka Tiger Niazi that signed the surrender document at Dhaka is Immy the Dim's uncle (chacha)


Allah (PBUH) be praised how is that? So he is Khan or Niazi? What kind of strange mix is it?


His real name is Imran Khan Niazi and is part of the famous Niazi clan. Even though he calls himself a Pathan but has lived in Lahore all his life. Only now he moved on outskirts of Islamabad in a place called Banigala.

Niazi as a general created Bangladesh and Niazi as a PM will create 4 nations.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby nam » 27 Jul 2018 01:02

chetak wrote:
IK may invite Modi for his swearing in.

We should send the MOS Gen VK Singh or a minister like Raghavendra Rathore.

that should cool the paki ardor a little bit.


We should not send anyone and say it as it is.

It is a rigged election and a millitary coup. India cannot support a millitary rigged government.

If there was half as rigging in India, the Indian and world media would have gone to town.

There is not a whip of sound of when PA does.it openly.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Peregrine » 27 Jul 2018 01:46

ramana wrote:SS, Maybe Rahul Gandhi might invite himself as potential PM and give a hug to Immy.
And he might keep him.
chetak wrote:IK may invite Modi for his swearing in.

We should send the MOS Gen VK Singh or a minister like Raghavendra Rathore.

that should cool the paki ardor a little bit.
chetak Ji : Im the Dim will invite Modi Ji and BEG FOR RESTARTING OF CRICKET TIES.

Ātaṅkavadīsthan will make lodsa Money!

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Peregrine » 27 Jul 2018 01:46

ramana wrote:SS, Maybe Rahul Gandhi might invite himself as potential PM and give a hug to Immy.
And he might keep him.
chetak wrote:IK may invite Modi for his swearing in.

We should send the MOS Gen VK Singh or a minister like Raghavendra Rathore.

that should cool the paki ardor a little bit.
chetak Ji : Im the Dim will invite Modi Ji and BEG FOR RESTARTING OF CRICKET TIES.

Ātaṅkavadīsthan will make lodsa Money!

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 27 Jul 2018 01:47

The ( Shameless ) Begging Continues Unabated :mrgreen:

Pakistan receives less than projected loans from World Bank
July 26, 2018
Express Tribune

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has failed to take advantage of a concessionary financing window of the World Bank and received slightly over half of its projected cheaper loans of $1 billion in the last fiscal year. The development comes as progress on majority of social sector projects remained sluggish.
Lots of "buzz words" to assert the (ridiculous) boast/ theory that Pakiland has the "rights" to receive the loan from the infidel controlled World Bank. Whether they deserve it or whether they meet the Bank's criteria, that does not matter :evil:
The International Development Association (IDA) – the World Bank’s concessionary loans arm – disbursed $520.6 million to Pakistan in fiscal year 2017-18, according to data compiled by the Economic Affairs Division. The amount was about 54% of the authorities’ estimate of $968 million. IDA loans are given to poor-income countries for a longer period at nominal interest rates of around 1.25%.
Piling debt no problem . Repaying them will be a MAJOR PROBLEM :twisted:
in comparison, disbursements by the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) stood at $249 million against the budgeted estimate of $68 million. The IBRD, another concessionary loan arm of the World Bank, extends its loans on commercial terms to the middle-income countries, at six-month floating London Interbank Offered Rate (Libor). [b]Pakistan receives a combination of IDA and IBRD loans every year.[/b] :roll:
Payment of commitment charges on an undisbursed, but approved loan amount has remained a big issue for Pakistan. The projects in all sectors have been facing delays due to administrative bottlenecks and delay in award of contracts. Lenders also take more than the required time in scrutiny and finalisation of contractual documents.
Even if the loan amounts are disbursed, there is no guarantee that the amounts will be spend on the purpose for which it was meant or/ and the monies disappear in the pocket of corrupt politicians, bureaucrats etc etc

Pakistan is running on (financial) life support . The election of a new man as PM is not going to make one iota of difference . The pipe dream of bring in investment from oversees Pakis, the promise of bring back illegally stashed away billions without penalty , the claim of ending corruption , which The New Man was boasting today, will be just empty words IMO !

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Bart S » 27 Jul 2018 01:49

SBajwa wrote:
rsingh wrote:
Allah (PBUH) be praised how is that? So he is Khan or Niazi? What kind of strange mix is it?


His real name is Imran Khan Niazi and is part of the famous Niazi clan. Even though he calls himself a Pathan but has lived in Lahore all his life. Only now he moved on outskirts of Islamabad in a place called Banigala.



SBajwa-ji,

Is he ethnically Pashtun or a Punjabi?

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby ramana » 27 Jul 2018 02:18

I heard Ghilzai Pashtun living in Pakjab.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SBajwa » 27 Jul 2018 02:22

Bart S wrote:
SBajwa wrote:
His real name is Imran Khan Niazi and is part of the famous Niazi clan. Even though he calls himself a Pathan but has lived in Lahore all his life. Only now he moved on outskirts of Islamabad in a place called Banigala.



SBajwa-ji,

Is he ethnically Pashtun or a Punjabi?


Mixed!! he believes that he is Pashtun but follows Punjabis totally! He is as much Pathan as any Pathan that you can find in India (all bollywood Khans). His mother was Punjabi.
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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

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Pakistan Election 2018 LIVE UPDATES: Pak ready to improve its ties with India, says Imran Khan after claiming victory in polls

Pakistan Election Results 2018 Live Updates: Ātaṅkavadīsthani Sena ASSISTED Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chief Imran Khan claimed victory in the general elections held on July 25. Addressing a press conference, the cricketer-turned-politician said, "I decided to join politics 22 years back when I saw a collapse of governance system and corruption in Pakistan."

Pakistan Election Results 2018 Live Updates: Claiming victory in the general elections held on July 25, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chief Imran Khan said the country was ready to improve ties with India. Addressing a press conference in Islamabad, the cricketer-turned-politician said that ‘if New Delhi moves one step forward, we will move two.’

“I decided to join politics 22 years back when I saw a collapse of governance system and corruption in Pakistan,” he said.
While opponents have alleged “blatant” rigging of the election, the Chief Election Commissioner attributed the delay to a new system- Results Transmission System – introduced by it. Voting was marred by reports of violence and a deadly suicide blast near Quetta, that killed over 35 people and left 67 injured. Meanwhile, The Election Commission of Pakistan has sent a notice to Imran Khan for voting in full public view and in front of the cameras — a violation of the code of conduct.

However, the party said Khan did not violate any rules and urged the Election of Commission of Pakistan to take note of the “fake news” being circulated, Dawn reported.

Latest election trends: PTI-119, PML-N-65, PPP-44, Others-17

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby ramana » 27 Jul 2018 02:27

ramana wrote:I heard Ghilzai Pashtun living in Pakjab.



Read here about Pakjabi Pashtuns


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathans_of_Punjab

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 27 Jul 2018 02:29

Bushra Imran felicitates nation on PTI's victory
Peerni took her husband's first name as her last name? Hain?

PTI chief Imran Khan's wife, Bushra Imran felicitated the nation on PTI's victory. In her message to the nation, she said that God has given the nation a leader who will look after them. She specially congratulated oppressed women, widows and orphans, telling them that their newly elected leader will will protect them.


https://www.dawn.com/elections/blog/#1423065

Imran Khan’s wife Bushra Bibi congratulates nation on PTI victory

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/34659 ... ti-victory

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby ramana » 27 Jul 2018 02:32

Looks like PTI tally grew at expense of MMA.
And magically PTI +Others will be 136.
To ensure govt formation.
And this can't be pulled down as neither PMLN or PPP can form.govt.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SBajwa » 27 Jul 2018 02:35

and if Imran does not behave (due to hung parliament) Army has an option to create another government!
It is one way win and win for the armed forces.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Bart S » 27 Jul 2018 02:58



Reminds one of Majorly Profound's tweet:
https://twitter.com/majorlyp/status/510454661011099648
Just take Im the Dim out of the picture and retweet :rotfl:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Rishirishi » 27 Jul 2018 03:03

For those of you whom are thinking Imran Khan is a secular moderate person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Tehreek-e-Insaf
Ideology
Pakistan Tahreek e Insaf's agenda envisions a modern Islamic republic that advocates individuals' welfare through community co-operation. PTI wants to set Pakistan on a course to political stability, social harmony, and economic prosperity for all religious, ethnic and racial communities.

PTI has an agenda to blend traditional social and religious values and cultural and ethnic diversity of Pakistan into common goals and aspirations for a just society based on Mohammad Iqbal's and Mohammad Ali Jinnah's vision of Islamic democratic culture providing social security, welfare and the rule of law.

Mohammad Iqbal's work has influenced Imran Khan in his deliberations on an "Islamic social state".[2]

The party manifesto includes a desire to provide credible leadership, to restore Pakistan's political and economic sovereignty, to establish a strong system of accountability and to combat corruption.[2]



Mohammad Iqbal was the main ideolog behind the creating of pakistan on the bases of islam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imran_Khan
Ideology
Basing his wider paradigm on the poet-philosopher Muhammad Iqbal and the Iranian writer-sociologist Ali Shariati he came across in his youth,[147] Khan is generally described as a populist.[148] Khan's proclaimed political platform and declarations include: Islamic values, to which he rededicated himself in the 1990s; liberal economics, with the promise of deregulating the economy and creating a welfare state; decreased bureaucracy and the implementation of anti-corruption laws, to create and ensure a clean government; the establishment of an independent judiciary; overhaul of the country's police system; and an anti-militant vision for a democratic Pakistan.[149][43][150][151][152] David Rose described Khan as a threat to the Americans and the feudal lords who have ruled Pakistan for decades.[153]


Ali Shariati was the main ideologue behind the iranian revolution and islamic nationalism.

Imran Khan is an Oxford graduate in Economics, politics and Philisophy. The same as Muhammad Iqbal.

IK is more then a cricketer, he also seems to be an Islamic Mulla in modern packing.
Where did he get the manpower and resources to win the election?

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Rishirishi » 27 Jul 2018 03:04

Rishirishi wrote:For those of you whom are thinking Imran Khan is a secular moderate person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Tehreek-e-Insaf
Ideology
Pakistan Tahreek e Insaf's agenda envisions a modern Islamic republic that advocates individuals' welfare through community co-operation. PTI wants to set Pakistan on a course to political stability, social harmony, and economic prosperity for all religious, ethnic and racial communities.

PTI has an agenda to blend traditional social and religious values and cultural and ethnic diversity of Pakistan into common goals and aspirations for a just society based on Mohammad Iqbal's and Mohammad Ali Jinnah's vision of Islamic democratic culture providing social security, welfare and the rule of law.

Mohammad Iqbal's work has influenced Imran Khan in his deliberations on an "Islamic social state".[2]

The party manifesto includes a desire to provide credible leadership, to restore Pakistan's political and economic sovereignty, to establish a strong system of accountability and to combat corruption.[2]



Mohammad Iqbal was the main ideolog behind the creation of pakistan, as an islamic state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imran_Khan
Ideology
Basing his wider paradigm on the poet-philosopher Muhammad Iqbal and the Iranian writer-sociologist Ali Shariati he came across in his youth,[147] Khan is generally described as a populist.[148] Khan's proclaimed political platform and declarations include: Islamic values, to which he rededicated himself in the 1990s; liberal economics, with the promise of deregulating the economy and creating a welfare state; decreased bureaucracy and the implementation of anti-corruption laws, to create and ensure a clean government; the establishment of an independent judiciary; overhaul of the country's police system; and an anti-militant vision for a democratic Pakistan.[149][43][150][151][152] David Rose described Khan as a threat to the Americans and the feudal lords who have ruled Pakistan for decades.[153]


Ali Shariati was the main ideologue behind the iranian revolution and islamic nationalism.

Imran Khan is an Oxford graduate in Economics, politics and Philisophy. The same as Muhammad Iqbal.

IK is more then a cricketer, he also seems to be an Islamic Mulla in modern packing.
Where did he get the manpower and resources to win the election?

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Postby Peregrine » 27 Jul 2018 03:41

Special report: How much does it cost to organise an election?
Dawn's Business and Finance Weekly estimates the costs and patterns of electioneering.
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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby ramana » 27 Jul 2018 03:44

SBajwa wrote:and if Imran does not behave (due to hung parliament) Army has an option to create another government!
It is one way win and win for the armed forces.



Not without new elections or breaking his party.
Look at the numbers.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby sanjaykumar » 27 Jul 2018 03:44

Does the Pakistan Army also run this Egyptian zoo?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-44968509

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Postby Peregrine » 27 Jul 2018 04:15

Rishirishi wrote:For those of you whom are thinking Imran Khan is a secular moderate person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Tehreek-e-Insaf
Ideology
Pakistan Tahreek e Insaf's agenda envisions a modern Islamic republic that advocates individuals' welfare through community co-operation. PTI wants to set Pakistan on a course to political stability, social harmony, and economic prosperity for all religious, ethnic and racial communities.

PTI has an agenda to blend traditional social and religious values and cultural and ethnic diversity of Pakistan into common goals and aspirations for a just society based on Mohammad Iqbal's and Mohammad Ali Jinnah's vision of Islamic democratic culture providing social security, welfare and the rule of law.

Mohammad Iqbal's work has influenced Imran Khan in his deliberations on an "Islamic social state".[2]

The party manifesto includes a desire to provide credible leadership, to restore Pakistan's political and economic sovereignty, to establish a strong system of accountability and to combat corruption.[2]
Mohammad Iqbal was the main ideolog behind the creation of pakistan, as an islamic state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imran_Khan
Rishirishi wrote:Ideology
Basing his wider paradigm on the poet-philosopher Muhammad Iqbal and the Iranian writer-sociologist Ali Shariati he came across in his youth,[147] Khan is generally described as a populist.[148] Khan's proclaimed political platform and declarations include: Islamic values, to which he rededicated himself in the 1990s; liberal economics, with the promise of deregulating the economy and creating a welfare state; decreased bureaucracy and the implementation of anti-corruption laws, to create and ensure a clean government; the establishment of an independent judiciary; overhaul of the country's police system; and an anti-militant vision for a democratic Pakistan.[149][43][150][151][152] David Rose described Khan as a threat to the Americans and the feudal lords who have ruled Pakistan for decades.[153]
Ali Shariati was the main ideologue behind the iranian revolution and islamic nationalism.

Imran Khan is an Oxford graduate in Economics, politics and Philisophy. The same as Muhammad Iqbal.

IK is more then a cricketer, he also seems to be an Islamic Mulla in modern packing.
Where did he get the manpower and resources to win the election?
Rishirishi Ji :

As Sherlock Holmes said "Elementary my Dear Watson From the ĀtankavadīsthanI Sena!"

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 27 Jul 2018 04:49

If Jemima and Immy's two sons come for his inauguration , will the Kaptaan introduce them to each other - sans burkha :twisted:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 27 Jul 2018 06:49

sanjaykumar wrote:Does the Pakistan Army also run this Egyptian zoo?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-44968509


Somewhere a paki is taking notes.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 27 Jul 2018 06:56

And, now, the DuH! statement:

China willing to work with new Pakistan government :roll:

The question was asked that according to unofficial result Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is dominating in general election, but the result was rejected by PML-N What is China's comment? “We sincerely hope that Pakistan will maintain political and social stability and concentrate on nation building” Geng added.
No matter the outcome of the election, it will not affect the development of China-Pakistan relations.
China is willing to work with the new Pakistani government to promote greater development of the all-weather strategic partnership between the two countries”.


Like the chinis have a choice! Suckers.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/34654 ... government

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 27 Jul 2018 07:42

ramana wrote:SS, Maybe Rahul Gandhi might invite himself as potential PM and give a hug to Immy.
And he might keep him.

ramana, that will solve everyone's problem.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby chetak » 27 Jul 2018 08:54

SBajwa wrote:
rsingh wrote:
Allah (PBUH) be praised how is that? So he is Khan or Niazi? What kind of strange mix is it?


His real name is Imran Khan Niazi and is part of the famous Niazi clan. Even though he calls himself a Pathan but has lived in Lahore all his life. Only now he moved on outskirts of Islamabad in a place called Banigala.

Niazi as a general created Bangladesh and Niazi as a PM will create 4 nations.


SBajwa ji,

This is not widely known.

Why not put it out on twitter, it will surely go viral.

the niazi connection needs to be played up. Even many pakis may not be aware of it as the bugger(pun intended) has deliberately kept it hidden.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby arun » 27 Jul 2018 09:09

Bruce Riedel in Daily Beast:

THE WRATH OF KHAN

The Next Prime Minister of Nuclear-Armed Pakistan Really Hates the U.S.

There is compelling evidence that the Pakistani army is supporting Imran Khan, intimidating his opponents and suppressing the press to get him into power.

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07.26.18 8:00 PM ET

The most dangerous country in the world just got considerably more dangerous. Pakistan, home to the fastest growing nuclear weapons arsenal on earth, has broken the decades old domination of its electoral politics by two family dynasties. Imran Khan, a world champion cricketer, is poised to be the next prime minister backed by the powerful army. Khan blames Pakistan’s problems on America and is the most anti-American politician in South Asia.

Imran Khan, 66, is charismatic and bold. He has campaigned for decades to break the logjam of Pakistan’s revolving elections in which either Nawaz Sharif or Benazir Bhutto and her heirs dominate the highest office of the country. Sharif, 65 and a three-time prime minister, is now in jail along with his daughter on trumped-up charges of corruption. Benazir’s son Bilawal, 29, ran an impressive campaign on his own for the first time but came in third place. Khan’s Pakistan Justice Movement (PTI) is leading the parliamentary elections with around 110-120 seats out of 272. Sharif’s party is around 60 and Bhutto at 45. These numbers are not final and there are several independents and small local parties.

Khan will need to persuade independents and small parties to join in a coalition government. He has ruled out working with either Sharif or Bhutto. The horse trading may be prolonged before a government is set—and volatile once created. There are widespread charges of fraud and tampering with the vote. Protests and boycotts are likely. A central question is which party will take control of the Punjab, the country’s largest province and the traditional base of the Sharif clan.

The central platform of Imran Khan’s movement has always been to fight corruption. Pakistan’s politics are certainly full of corruption as is the judicial process. But the most corrupt institution in the country is the army. Pakistani analysts like Aeysha Saddiqa have long documented how the army has become a major land owner and business maestro to enrich the pockets of the officer corps. The generals for decades have manipulated the judicial system to punish their enemies.

There is compelling evidence that the army is supporting Khan, intimidating his opponents and suppressing the press to get him to power. The army soured on Nawaz Sharif years ago and was especially alarmed when he blamed the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack on the army intelligence service known as the ISI. The ISI was certainly responsible for the Mumbai operation, but to acknowledge that is verboten in Pakistan.

Khan is an outspoken defender of the army and is closely aligned with the Islamist movements patronized by the ISI. He is a frequent critic of the United States which he says treats Pakistan like a “doormat.” Khan says the American war on terror since 9/11 has cost Pakistan billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives. While domestic violence has gone down in the last couple of years it spiked during the election season.


Pakistan and the United States have had a deeply troubled relationship for decades with great highs and lows. Both sides have used the other and been unreliable partners. Donald Trump’s administration has been outspoken about Pakistan’s connections to terrorism and its support for the Afghan Taliban. Military assistance has been suspended, although the Congress soured on aid for Pakistan in the Obama years.


Imran Khan has said that it would be a “bitter pill” to have to meet with Trump if he Khan is prime minister, but one he would swallow. He probably doesn’t have to worry. South Asia is not a priority for the Trump administration. The president has made clear he wants to bring Americans home from Afghanistan and wash his hands of the war there. His hard line rhetoric on Pakistan is unlikely to persuade Khan and the army to press the Taliban to peace negotiations. So far Trump has been all talk and no action about Pakistan’s ties to terrorism. His generals have persuaded him to stay in Afghanistan, but he is not persuaded they have a viable strategy. He may well be right.

I have been impressed by Khan’s determination when I’ve met him, but also by his proclivity for conspiracy theories no matter how irresponsible. He has a reputation for independence and volatility. His political movement is almost a cult of personality. The generals may find him hard to control.

The election is Pakistan’s second consecutive transfer of power by the ballot box, an important milestone for the country. The democratic process is still weak but it has now produced an outcome not in the old family.

Pakistan desperately needs good governance and a healthy civil-military relationship with the civilians in charge. It needs to abandon terrorism and slow down its nuclear weapons drive to devote attention and resources to development and infrastructure. It is becoming dangerously dependent on China. It has a self interest in warming relations with India. Above all it needs stable and experienced leadership.

None of that seems likely. Get ready for an uncharted future.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby sanjaykumar » 27 Jul 2018 09:25

^^^ i referenced the Egyptian zoo caper as a comment on their great new hope.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby saip » 27 Jul 2018 09:38

Now the Army does not even need a jeep and a truck to pull off a coup. Only in Pakistan.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby abhijitm » 27 Jul 2018 09:40

SSridhar wrote:My two paise.

Thanks SSridhar for your insightful answer!

Intention of my thought was to find any unexplored glue which is holding these yahoos together. They behave like a cartel and hence my hunch whether they have a nucleus, some key handlers who are running this power laundering show with COAS as front. It seems front changes but cartel business is intact. Now the cartel has brought another front through IK.

But if the entire army is an organism then much more complex and difficult to break.


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