Terroristan - April 24, 2018

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Vips » 24 May 2018 03:58

Falijee wrote:Maya Mirchandani
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Packed house at release of ‘Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace’ by AS Dulat & Asad Durrani, written by @autumnshade. Manmohan Singh, Farooq Abdullah, @YashwantSinha all on stage with @BDUTT moderating. Pity Mr Durrani didn’t get visa to be at his own book launch :roll:

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Indian Luminaries In Attendance For The Book Launch !
PS: Looks like Ansari is in the pic too !


Looks like all Anti-Modi leaders had a great meet.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Amber G. » 24 May 2018 04:19

sanjaykumar wrote:I’ve been itching to ask. What are stereotypical Pakistani looks? Is it the body habitus, facial hair or the actual physiognomy?


Some say it’s actual ‘cruelty’ writ in the expression.

FWIW I asked google AI - the top choices were:
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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 06:28

Paki ( Sexually Hungry :twisted: ) Male Caught Masturbating ( On Camera !) In Front Of Girls In The "Holy" Month Of Ramazan :shock:

Man allegedly ‘masturbates’ in front of girls in Karachi Defense area

KARACHI – A girl shared her ordeal on social media that has made him disgusting along with her sister. According to the details, a man allegedly masturbated in front of two girls on main Shujaat phase 8 Defense (posh !) area of Karachi. Do away with the "alleged" BS . He is caught on camera ! At that too, in the "Holy" Month of Ramazan . He should be handed out ten times the official punishment for violating the sanctity of the "Holy" Month :twisted:

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Another "Offending" Abdul . This time, dreaming his "fantasies" :mrgreen:
The man came out of his car (BAL-943) and started masturbating in front of us that made us disgusting, said the girl in her Twitter post. Social media has its pluses and minusus as well ! Ammaji and Abbaji "comfortable" with this "exposure" ?. Is this , in any way going to spoil her "marriage prospects" . Just wondering loud :mrgreen:

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IMO, it would have better for the Paki Ayesha to let this disgusting matter ( specially in the "Holy" month ) die a natural death ( no Twitter, No photu ) unless she herself is seeking her 15 minutes of fame as per the famous saying of Andy Warhol !
The girl explained that it was around 3 pm in a busy market of the metropolis, adding that she and her sister were completely puzzled and did not know what to do after this shameful act of man.But, the girls decided to teach him a lesson and followed the man who was heading towards the sea.“We just wanted to get the information of man but he started masturbating again in front of us” stated the twitter post.In a state of utter confusion we just took photos of guy along with his car so that everyone could see his disgusting act.

Again , IMO there was no need to do all this , unless you are seeking publicity yourself for whatever reason ! Have the girls filed an FIR yet ? Have their parents consented to filing the police complaint? What if the "offending Abdul" turns out to be a son, brother, brother -in-law, cousin, cousin in law uncle, uncle in law , etc etc of a top general or a well known politico or someone high in the Paki Civil Service . Will Justice be blind in this case :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

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Postby sanjaykumar » 24 May 2018 06:36

^^Too bad they didn't take a selfie.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 06:46

This Is Asad Durrani's Take On The Indian Visa That Was Refused To Him :roll:

India denies visa to former ISI Chief, Top Spy hits back in a video message

*NEW DELHI. *Former chief of Pakistani intelligence agency ISI Asad Durrani today missed an event in New Delhi, where a book he co-authored with a former RAW chief was released, as he did not get an Indian visa. The book 'The Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace', which Durrani co-authored with former RAW chief A S Dulat and journalist Aditya Sinha, was released jointly by former prime minister Manmohan Singh, former vice president Hamid Ansari, former Union minister Yashwant Sinha and a few others in the event organised in Delhi.
"At the end, a very special thank to the Indian deep state. By denying me the visa, they have saved me from the wrath of our hawks. They will be happy to know that I have not yet been cleared by the South Block (which houses India's PMO and Ministries of Defence and External Affairs)," he said in a pre-recorded video message played in the event. :roll:
: He should be thankful that at least , due to India's democratic traditions, his propaganda video message was not suppressed . If the tables were turned and the venue was Isloo, no such video from the Indian chap would have seen the light of day :twisted:
The book has been styled as a conversation between two spymasters covers a wide range of subjects including NSA Ajit Doval's way of functioning, the Kashmir issue and several thorny issues between India and Pakistan including Kulbhushan Jadhav, Balochistan. :((

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 08:14

Paki Uber Patriot And Deep State Apologist :twisted: Jahil Ham-Eid Outed By This Ex Pat Paki

The regime of disinformation
May 23, 2018
Jaffer Abbas Mirza

On May 9, students from various communities, including Pakistanis, Kashmiris and Palestinians organised a teach-in at the School of Oriental and African Studies (popularly known as SOAS) in London, on the Pashtun Tahaffuz Movement (PTM). Teach-ins are mostly informal, quasi-academic and open to contribution from participants.
Though the Pakistani media was invited, only a few people from the industry made it to the event and, expectedly, did not cover the discussion due to the media blackout on PTM activities. Some of the organisers posted photos and live streamed the event to reach those people who were unable to attend but still wanted to listen to the discussion.
This kind of teach-in or discussion is part of routine activism around the word. But in Pakistan’s context, nothing is normal. Everything is a part of some conspiracy or evil war being waged against this remarkable nation.
On May 12, a self-proclaimed defence analyst — who also acts as a defender and expansionist for the armed forces — Zaid Hamid, Tweeted photos of our event (which, by the way, was stolen from one of organiser’s Facebook page) and captioned them as:“These are exclusive secret pictures of CIAs information warfare and psy-ops teams creating an insurgency in Pakistan through social media and NGOs. This is the reason for serious friction between ISI and CIA these days. Like Syria, 5GW [fifth-Generation Warfare] is being pushed against Pak.”
:lol: (a) IMO, this joker is a One Man Think Tank .(b) IMO, his "Think Tank" has only one customer ( Deep State !) (c) He has a irritating habit of using the Royal "We" when making reference to his "business" - probably operating out of his Isloo residence !
Viewing society from the security lens alone is a part of Pakistan’s colonial legacy. The British considered any upheaval a threat to the monarchy
This statement received hundreds of retweets and subsequent abuses and conspiracies. Another post Facebook and Twitter captioned same pictures as ‘Hidden Cam Pictures taken during a meeting being held by CIA operatives and NGOs planning information warfare, creating insurgency in Pakistan by supporting so called PTM.’
Sir Jahil has a fertile imagination and a gift of the gab along with a gift of the pen for maximum effect . And of course, he has an "inside track" at the GHQ and the ISI :twisted:
One Facebook post even termed this venue as the CIA headquarters negating all geographical and spatial factual realities. :lol:
But discussion on disinformation and propaganda is incomplete without mentioning some semi-fauji media anchors who pretend to be journalists but work as self-appointed military spokespersons. One is Aamir Liaquat Hussain, who made the allegation that the event was a conspiracy against Pakistan on the May 14 episode of his TV show. According to him, the event was jointly organised by RAW, NDS, CIA, NGOs and other foreigners.
Another Paki joker who probably "belongs" to the lunatic asylum and definitely not in Immy's PTI Party :twisted:
These accusations were made despite the fact that the event was adequately publicised, posted on social media, sent people personal invites and published on the SOAS Student Union website. The media and populace in general seem to be in a rush to buy and promote any conspiracy theory they can.
There is a "big market" in Pakistan for conspiracy theories !!!
There are various reason for this, and it is also true that culture of conspiracy is present in almost every society but in the context of Pakistan, especially in political settings, there are two interlinked explanations.
The first is fairly simple, insecurity. Viewing society from the security lens alone is a part of Pakistan’s colonial legacy. The British considered any upheaval a threat to the monarchy. Although insecurity could be found in different empires, the institutionalisation of insecurity — in modern bureaucracy and army — was arguably the gift of the British Empire which was later advanced by the Pakistani state, particularly under dictatorial regimes. Since Pakistan was born with an ‘enemy’ (India), this fear of India had given moral and political legitimacy to the securitisation of state apparatus.Therefore, the idea of building a healthy society was replaced with the notion of protecting society from an ‘enemy’. That was one of the reasons for the state crackdown on progressives and democrats from the 50s to 80s. It was for the same reason that blood-thirsty Jihadis were presented as an antithesis of progressives, who could not only thwart inclusive and progressive politics but fight alongside the Pakistani state.
The second explanation is the control over the national narrative exercised by the establishment. The strongest narrative it has constructed is that anyone who is critical of the military and opposes its political role is an enemy, and is conspiring against the whole institution. From the time of Fatima Ali Jinnah to date, no civilian has been spared from this accusation.
Now Manzoor Pashteen and the PTM are being viewed from the same old security obsessed point of view. Numerous sedition cases have been made against PTM leadership, social media has become an inane conspiracy factory and journalists are didactically explaining that there are good and bad Pashtuns; of course the latter are those who are critical of the military.Those who think that they could stymie PTM’s popularity by using these conspiracies need to understand that their approach will not work. It’s not the PTM that needs to revisit its position; it’s the state that has to change. A rational analysis makes it clear that it is democracy, the federation and society which will benefit from PTM’s demands most.We need a strong, democratic, inclusive, and progressive society and whoever demands this can only be an agent of peace.
Mujibur Rahman of Awami League was demonized and painted as an Indian Agent. Result : Bangladesh was created . Manzoor Pashteen is depicted as an Afghan and CIA Agent . Result " Pashtunistan ( in the making :twisted: )

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 24 May 2018 09:05

China wants Pakistan to relocate Hafiz Saeed to a West Asian country - Mubashir Zaidi, The Hindu
China has asked Pakistan to explore ways of relocating Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed to a West Asian country in response to mounting international pressure to act against him for his links with terror groups.

Chinese President Xi Jinping suggested this course of action — allowing Saeed to live a quiet life in a West Asian country — to Pakistan Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi on the sidelines of the Boao Forum in China last month.

“At a 35-minute meeting, at least 10 minutes of the discussion dealt with Hafiz Saeed. The Chinese President was keen on pressing the Prime Minister to find an early solution to keep Hafiz Saeed away from the limelight,” a close aide of Mr. Abbasi told The Hindu, requesting anonymity.

Mr. Abbasi has consulted the government’s legal team, which is yet to come up with a solution.

The issue is expected to be referred to the next government as the Prime Minister will leave office on May 31 after completion of the tenure.

The general election will be held at July-end.

The JuD has been accusing the government of taking action against Saeed at the instance of the U.S. and India.

Saeed, who met some journalists over Iftar on Tuesday in Karachi, refused to believe that China would want a ban on him or to see him out of the country. However, he admitted that China would act as a super power and dictate to Pakistan.

Saeed had denied that any government functionary had met him in recent weeks to discuss the future of the JuD.

Saeed, who has been declared a global terrorist by the United Nations, the U.S. and India, carries a reward of $5 million on his head for his alleged involvement in the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Pakistani authorities last year put him under house arrest for almost nine months but were forced to release him on the orders of the Lahore High Court.

The government also scuttled attempts by the JuD to enter the political arena by forming a political party, Milli Muslim League (MML).

The Interior Ministry refused to give clearance to the MML and the Election Commission did not register it as a party.

Reported by Indonesia

Earlier this year, the JuD was put on the list of banned organisations just before the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) meeting in Paris. Following the meeting, it was decided to put Pakistan on the grey list for its failure to prevent terror financing.

The JuD was reported by Indonesia after the authorities detected some money channelled through the country by the outfit. Indonesia notified the FATF.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

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Falijee wrote:This Is Asad Durrani's Take On The Indian Visa That Was Refused To Him :roll:

India denies visa to former ISI Chief, Top Spy hits back in a video message

*NEW DELHI. *Former chief of Pakistani intelligence agency ISI Asad Durrani today missed an event in New Delhi, where a book he co-authored with a former RAW chief was released, as he did not get an Indian visa. The book 'The Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace', which Durrani co-authored with former RAW chief A S Dulat and journalist Aditya Sinha, was released jointly by former prime minister Manmohan Singh, former vice president Hamid Ansari, former Union minister Yashwant Sinha and a few others in the event organised in Delhi.
"At the end, a very special thank to the Indian deep state. By denying me the visa, they have saved me from the wrath of our hawks. They will be happy to know that I have not yet been cleared by the South Block (which houses India's PMO and Ministries of Defence and External Affairs)," he said in a pre-recorded video message played in the event. :roll:
: He should be thankful that at least , due to India's democratic traditions, his propaganda video message was not suppressed . If the tables were turned and the venue was Isloo, no such video from the Indian chap would have seen the light of day :twisted:
The book has been styled as a conversation between two spymasters covers a wide range of subjects including NSA Ajit Doval's way of functioning, the Kashmir issue and several thorny issues between India and Pakistan including Kulbhushan Jadhav, Balochistan. :((


Visa denial to retired Uniformed Jihadi head of the notorious ISI aka ISID, Lt. Gen. Mohammad Asad Durrani, for the book launch in New Delhi allows the BJP led NDA Government of our Prime Minister Narendra Modi to make very small amends for issuing a visa for the son of an elite retired member of the Punjabi Uniformed Jihadi dominated Deep State of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan and then allowing said son to get away scot free for breaking our immigration laws by visiting Mumbai, a city ravaged by Pakistani Ununiformed Jihadi’s controlled by Pakistani Uniformed Jihadi’s, in violation of visa regulations .

:oops: When all it takes for a retired Uniformed Jihadi head of the notorious Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Inter Services Intelligence Directorate aka ISID aka ISI to subvert the course of Indian law is a phone call to an Indian counterpart formerly tasked with the job of preventing the Mohammadden Terrorism fomented by the ISI (A.S.Dulat) who then in turn gets in touch with the incumbent tasked with that job (Rajinder Khanna), is the sense of entitlement of citizens of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan any wonder :?:

Times Of India:

When Indian spook came to rescue of ex-ISI chief son

In May 2015, former director general of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) General Asad Durrani's son Osman came to Kochi for work on behalf of a German company. Osman should have exited the country from the city that he entered from. But his office booked him from a flight back via Mumbai.

He was stopped by authorities in Mumbai and what followed were 24 hours of backchannel networking to get him out of India despite the visa violation. ………………………….

When Durrani heard that Osman had been detained, he called Dulat for help. Dulat called several people including then RAW chief Rajinder Khanna. The wheels of the Indian intelligence establishment began to turn even as Osman was stonewalled.
Things however worked out, and Osman was able to fly back to Germany after a day from Mumbai. Dulat recalls the most touching part of the incident was that when he called Khanna to thank him for his help, the RAW chief said in reference to Durrani,''It's our duty,' he said, 'after all, he's a colleague.''


Would have been a great opportunity for the Nehru-Gandhi family dynasty led Congress Party to haul up the BJP led Government of our Prime Minister Narendra Modi for these disgraceful incidents. Unfortunately attendance of prominent Congress Party members like our former PM Manmohan Singh and former VP Hamid Ansari for the Dulat-Durrani duo’s book launch soiree at New Delhi has watered the Congress Party’s powder :x .

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 15:46

US Sec Of State Pompeo "Bad Mouths" Pakistan In Front Of US Foreign Relations Committee :mrgreen:

US envoys being ‘treated badly’ in Pakistan, claims Pompeo

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Wednesday that the US officials in Pakistan are “not being treated well by the Pakistani government”.While presenting his testimony before the US House Foreign Affairs Committee, Pompeo said: “My officers, our state department officers are being treated badly as well, folks working in the embassies and councils [and] in other places are not being treated well by the Pakistani government either.”
And he is not talking about an "enemy state" either. This is Massa's Major Non Nato Ally ! Diplomatic etiquette thrown out of the window !
He remarked that this “real problem” that needs to be taken measure of.
With regards to the new South Asia strategy of the US, he said “we have been clear with Pakistan that ensuring reconciliation, peace, and security in Afghanistan in large part depends on Pakistan's willingness to crack down on terrorist safe havens and instigators of terrorist activity in its own country.”
Pakistan cannot openly defy US. It however does "mischief" in Afghanistan through its various proxies and uses that as a bargaining lever to coax Massa into releasing some much needed funds to tide over the financial mess it has gotten into :mrgreen:
Pompeo also shared that the US has released “far less funds in 2018” as compared to the previous year to Pakistan. :D
Speaking on the issue of Pakistani doctor Shakil Afridi, who had helped US authorities track down al-Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden, Pompeo remarked: “I worked diligently on the issue of Dr Afridi in my previous role…unsuccessfully, please know that it is in my heart and it is important and we can do that.”
If Paki reports are to be believed, they have moved him to Adiala . Maybe, Nawaz will join him there !

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 16:02

Paki Diplomutts To The Rescue Of The Al- Qaeda "Doctor" Held In US Jail :roll:

Pakistani diplomat meets Dr Aafia Siddiqui in US prison, quashes online rumours of her death

WASHINGTON – A Pakistani diplomat to the US has rejected all rumours emerging on social media about the death of Dr. Aafia Siddiqui in a Texas prison.
Pakistani consul general in Houston Aisha Farooqui met the Pakistani scientist at Carswell detention facility in Fort Worth, Texas. It was the fourth meeting in 14 months and lasted about two hours.
Not sure if Fort Worth Texas is within the 25-50 mile radius of Houston :roll: ( that Paki Diplomutts are allowed to travel without getting special permission )
Earlier, online reports claimed that Siddiqui, who is serving her 86-year sentence at the US jail, had passed away in the detention. The consul general, however, termed all such reports baseless.
Did he also ensure that this "religious Doctor" was given all Islamic facilities to facilitate her to urge for fasting in Ramadhan ! or did the Al-Qaeda people responsible for this dept :mrgreen:
The Pakistani neuroscientist was indicted by a New York federal district court in September 2008 on charges of attempted murder and assault stemming from an incident in an interview with US authorities in Ghazni. Siddiqui had rejected all the allegations. In 2010, she was tried and awarded a sentence of 86 years in jail.
Nothing about Mush's ISI people kidnapping her in Karachi and then "selling" her to the Americans for Bounty Money and splitting the proceeds among themselves ! At least, this was one of the possible scenario offered by the Paki Press to explain her landing in in Afghanistan Bagram Air Base And a CIA Prison !
There is no contact with Aafia for the last two years despite making several efforts, Fauzia said. There is another press report which says that US Diplomats are treated shabbily in Pakistan !!!. Ms Fauzia should connect the dots :mrgreen:


PS: Pakistan treating US envoys badly, alleges Secretary of State Mike Pompeo :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 16:06

Pakistan's Narrative On Kashmir Rejected By New York Times :twisted:

Why "New York Times" is wrong over occupied Kashmir? :roll:
May 23, 2018

ISLAMABAD - On May 18, the New York Times published an editorial entitled "A long shot in Kashmir <link>". The editorial completely misrepresents the nature of the Kashmir issue and reinforces the false notion of it being a "territorial dispute" between India and Pakistan.
New York is the HQ of the UN. Foreign Reps read the US Top Daily for their daily feed of US and International News! . Pakis have a major problem on their hands now ! :mrgreen:
In addition, it raises the bogey of "Islamism" to further undermine genuine mass aspirations for self-determination and freedom from India among Kashmiris. As scholars of Kashmir , we believe it is important to provide correctives to these misconceptions. Who are the so-called scholars of Kashmir. Hafiz Suar and Masood Azhar :roll:
For the issue to be resolved, the international community, and the media, need to move beyond these statist perspectives and foreground Kashmiri perspectives and agency. Kashmiris are not only the main victims of the conflict in the region but remain the key drivers of the long-standing self-determination movement.
So, the US paper does not "buy" the Paki claim on Kashmir !
It is in this larger context that the editorial extolling India's ostensible "ceasefire" comes as a shock. The ceasefire simply is supposed to put a temporary halt to military operations against armed rebels, but it does nothing to ease the extraordinary burden of the occupation on the daily lives of Kashmiris.
The repression against political dissent, and everyday threats to the safety and security of Kashmiri lives, continues. The Indian government has refused to acknowledge the basic demands of Kashmiris, including demilitarisation of public spaces, the release of political prisoners, or bringing violators of human rights <link> to justice. :((
Most fundamentally, Indian leaders refuse to recognise the right to self-determination of Kashmiris. Instead, Indian nationalist parties use the Kashmiri issue to rouse nationalist sentiment in India and to gain electoral advantage.
The overwhelming sentiment in Kashmir has been that there should be peace between India and Pakistan. Any effort on the two sides towards dialogue is welcomed.
Paki desperation at the pitai at the LOC shows up here !
But despite the long history of interstate and Track II dialogues, Kashmiris are painfully aware that often such efforts yield little relief from the military occupation in Kashmir . It is time to move beyond seeing the solution to the Kashmiri question as a factor of India-Pakistan dialogue and instead recognise the primacy of Kashmiris in solving it. - Al Jazeera
Paki narrative in Al Jazeera endorsed by a Paki no doubt :mrgreen:
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Postby SSridhar » 24 May 2018 16:20

China says report on President Xi asking Pak to relocate Hafiz Saeed shocking, baseless - PTI
BEIJING: China on Thursday dismissed a media report that President Xi Jinping has asked Pakistan to explore ways to relocate Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed to a West Asian country amid mounting international pressure to act against him for his links with terror groups.

According to the report, a close aide of Pakistan Prime Minister said that Xi made the suggestion to Shahid Khaqan Abbasi during their meeting on the sidelines of the Boao Forum in China last month.

Reacting to it, Chinese Foriegn Ministry spokesperson's office has said the report that Xi has asked Abbasi to relocate the Pakistan-based JuD chief to a West Asian country was "shocking and baseless".

"It is shocking and baseless that's all we can say," the official told PTI here [Beijing].

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby rsingh » 24 May 2018 16:56

Vips wrote:
Falijee wrote:Maya Mirchandani
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Packed house at release of ‘Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace’ by AS Dulat & Asad Durrani, written by @autumnshade. Manmohan Singh, Farooq Abdullah, @YashwantSinha all on stage with @BDUTT moderating. Pity Mr Durrani didn’t get visa to be at his own book launch :roll:

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Indian Luminaries In Attendance For The Book Launch !
PS: Looks like Ansari is in the pic too !


Looks like all Anti-Modi leaders had a great meet.


WTF ? EX PM attending meeting where ISI is praised . EX PM has lost all respect from me at least. I used to think he was right man in wrong party.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Vips » 24 May 2018 17:30

This when the ISI nut job openly boasted in an interview in US of how ISI expertly played a double game and promoted terror as a policy. The leaders who attended this function should be shamed of how they are supporting a terrorist by showing this interview.

Check the link below from 19:30 onwards when he defended Hafeez Saeed and equated him with the PM of India when he was specifically reminded of him and his organization Let being anti-india.

https://vimeo.com/119469963

Fact is Congress is full of Paki lovers. Remember many leaders including MMS were all present marking their attendance when Kasuri was hosted by Mullah Iyer.

As far as Mickey Mouse Singh is concerned, that guy has expertly used his clean image to enjoy the perks of power and has never ever any shown moral responsibility or remorse for all the scams that took place - Neither the Harshad Mehta /Stock scams when he was Finance Minister or the other mega scams (Telecom/Coal/Mines) when he was PM. He has no self respect and was willing to be a remote control. Can teach a thing or two to other thick skinned shameless politicians.
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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 24 May 2018 17:49

More expose from Door-Ki-Rani (Ghar ka Bhedi). First one implicates mushy (in the Kargil fiasco) and skewers ganja sharief (for approving it). Other exposes as well.

Posting in full.

Nawaz knew little about ‘foolish’ Kargil op: ex-ISI chief

ISLAMABAD: Former Director General (DG) Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt Gen (retd) Asad Durrani claims former military dictator Pervez Musharraf was obsessed with Kargil and it was a foolish operation. He claims Nawaz Sharif knew a very little about it and not the whole thing, but he had given the go-ahead, so he had to take political responsibility.

The former DG ISI made startling revelations in his new book co-authored by former RAW chief A S Dulat. The former spymaster has talked on almost every important issue related to India and Pakistan. General (retd) Durrani claims that after the Kargil operation, Musharraf was under pressure and knew that he would be sacked by Nawaz Sharif, so he developed a contingency plan in advance.

According to General (retd) Durrani, the Kargil operation was carried out after Indian Prime Minister Vajpayee’s visit to Lahore. Vajpayee’s initiative benefited India because everyone blamed Pakistan for Kargil, which was anyway a foolish operation, says Gen (retd) Durrani.

“As a two-star DGMO, he suggested doing so during Benazir Bhutto's second tenure. 'Prime Minister, we can do that,' so he said. She replied, 'Maybe you can, but politically it won't be sustainable.' When he became the army chief, he said that after carrying out nuclear tests Pakistan was in a better position for the operation," says Gen (retd) Durrani.

According to former spymaster, Nawaz Sharif, the then Prime Minister of Pakistan knew a very little about this operation, however, he gave go-ahead to Musharraf. Therefore, he says he would give him the benefit of doubt.

“How the rest of the world reacted to his irresponsibility. He probably misjudged India’s strong reaction too. Vajpayee was going for early elections, so leaving it at that would have cost him dearly. It misfired and the heights had to be vacated. Only a few people were privy to the plan. Nawaz Sharif knew a bit, not the whole thing, but he had given the go-ahead, so he had to take political responsibility. I give him the benefit of doubt, that he did not know the plan’s extent; he may have thought that just a small area would be taken”, says the former spymaster.

General (retd) Asad believes that Musharraf made a flawed assessment of nuclearization theory that the hostilities would not escalate in the post-nuclearization era. “His premise on ‘nuclear immunity’: that after going nuclear, we could get away with plenty of things. The part he got wrong, of course, was that if you do these things it may not escalate to nuclear war but you would be accused of being reckless, unwise. That you are risking a nuclear confrontation in the belief that 95 per cent of the time it will not happen. But what about the other 5 per cent?” says Gen (retd) Durrani.

General (retd) Durrani claims that Musharraf was under immense pressure after the failed operation and one day he invited him to his office for advice. “In August, Musharraf and I had a one-on-one. Musharraf invited me to his office and said the government was bent upon publicly blaming the army for the Kargil fiasco. Fine, I said, so what? He said he just wanted my opinion on what would happen. I said, if I know Nawaz Sharif, he would continue to be uncomfortable with you, as he was with Baig, with Asif Nawaz, and even with Jehangir Karamat, who was a laid-back army chief, professionally sound and who did not throw his weight around. Even after the 1998 Indian nuclear tests, Karamat said merely, prime minister, this is the army’s view, you have to consider the political and economic fallout. But with him also it did not work out; three months before he was to retire, he resigned rather than take a second more of the acrimony. So I told Musharraf it won’t work out with you. He’ll look for an opportunity to get rid of you. But this is not the right environment for a political coup; 'even banana republics nowadays have a façade of democracy,' I remember saying. So go ahead and think of the next step. That's where I left. It was clear that Musharraf could not launch a coup”.

According to the former spymaster, after the Kargil operation Musharraf knew that he would be sacked so he developed a contingency plan in advance. "In September Nawaz Sharif concluded that he would be uncomfortable with Musharraf continuing in the powerful post. One way of making Musharraf irrelevant without sacking him was to promote him to be the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This is a post that commands one PA and one orderly. :rotfl: An emissary was sent with the offer but Musharraf turned it down. Nawaz Sharif then offered to keep him as the army chief and also promote him as chairman. Musharraf says, that I can do. It became clear to Musharraf that he would be sacked at the first opportunity, so he developed a contingency plan”.

Talking about the Abbottabad operation by American Navy Seals killing Osama Bin Laden, the former spy chief urged General (retd) Ashfaq Pervez Kayani and General (retd) Ahmed Shuja Pasha to make public if there was any deal about the OBL operation. “I don’t think there is any reason for him, or for Pasha who was heading the ISI at that time, for keeping quiet. Get the secret out because we've been getting the worst of both worlds. We are blamed for incompetence, for playing a double game; and what did we get in return? That is what I want to know”.

He believed there was a retired Pakistani officer who told the Americans about the whereabouts of OBL. "There was a retired Pakistani officer in intelligence walked in and told the Americans. I won’t take his name because I can’t prove it and also I don’t want to give him any publicity. How much of the 50 million dollars he got, who knows. But he is missing from Pakistan”.

To a question about Indian consulates in Afghanistan, General (retd) Durrani says, “If Indian consulates are used, we’ll be happy. There are four consulates and an embassy but we need not inflate their number. In Pakistan some people, who are ill-informed and sometimes silly, will talk of nine consulates, 18; the maximum number I’ve heard is 23. If the Indians were to conduct espionage from four consulates, then we should be happy because then we can keep track. Anyway, espionage is usually not done from there. A couple of Indian construction companies could employ a couple of Jadhavs. That is difficult to track. Essentially, we exaggerate Indian influence like we exaggerated the number of consulates. What worried me most about the Jadhav case was the Iranian factor. It has led to speculation in Pakistan, that when Mullah Akhtar Mansoor was returning from some meetings in Iran, Iranian intelligence put a chip in his vehicle that helped the Americans to track him down. Even if this was true I would not talk about it. It’s creating problems between Iran and Pakistan. But regarding Balochistan: espionage happens, people are involved. Second, I’ve always felt we are overplaying India’s involvement. The Americans are more involved. There are others who have more reason to get involved”.

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Postby Peregrine » 24 May 2018 17:54

Mob demolishes mosque belonging to minority sect in Pakistan

ISLAMABAD: Sunni extremists in Pakistan have demolished a historical mosque belonging to the Ahmadiyya community in Punjab province, the latest attack on the minority group in the Muslim-majority country.

A persecuted minority sect, the Ahmadiyya community was declared non-Muslims in Pakistan through a constitutional amendment in 1974 during the tenure of former prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.

The latest mob attack took place in Sialkot last night.

As the local municipal administration started demolishing a private property of an Ahmadiyya follower, about 600 miscreants demolished the nearby mosque later.

Ahmadiyya spokesman Saleemuddin said in a statement that the mob launched the attack at about 11PM and it continued till 3AM (local time)
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"The place of worship and the house that has been demolished by the mob in Sialkot have great historical significance for members of the Ahmadiyya community all over the world," he said.

The police kept on watching the vandalism and did nothing to prevent the attackers, Saleemuddin alleged, adding that it shows the state institutions have surrendered before the elements that are exploiting in the name of religion in order to fulfil their vested interests.

"Ahmadiyya places of worship have been under attack in the past as well, and so far not even a single culprit has been brought to justice," Saleemuddin alleged.

Ahmadiyya people are not allowed to call their place of worship as mosques.

Former president General Ziaul Haq had made it a punishable offence for Ahmadiyyas to call themselves Muslims or to refer to their faith as Islam.

The community is also banned from preaching as well as from travelling to Saudi Arabia for pilgrimage. They are also not allowed to publish any material propagating their faith.

Members of the community in Pakistan have often been targeted, including in terror attacks.

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Postby anupmisra » 24 May 2018 17:55

Ouch! My sore and aching HS&D.

Payment to IPPs: London court restrains Pakistan to challenge its ruling

The London Court of International Arbitration (LCIA) has permanently restrained Pakistan from challenging its rulings regarding payment of Rs14 billion plus interest (Kibor+4.5%) to nine independent power producers (IPPs) in local courts of Pakistan.
The LCIA has also maintained its earlier partial award in favour of nine independent power producers under which the Government of Pakistan was to pay Rs14 billion to IPPs. This means government of Pakistan is left with no option but to pay Rs14 billion with interest of Kibor-4.5 percent.
Under the latest scenario, the Government of Pakistan needs to pay Rs235 billion to IPPs.
The bone of contention between the parties was if the courts of Pakistan have supervisory jurisdiction over the arbitration.
The IPPs argued that the seat of the arbitration is London and therefore the courts of England and Wales have exclusive supervisory jurisdiction.


Why do pakis think that they can saunter into any international court, make wild claims and win every argument? The chutzpah!

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Postby Vips » 24 May 2018 18:13

Ha Ha they think they can stop the arbitration ruling of a superior court by taking the matter to a lower court which itself is a kangaroo court :rotfl:

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Postby chetak » 24 May 2018 18:38

Vips wrote:Ha Ha they think they can stop the arbitration ruling of a superior court by taking the matter to a lower court which itself is a kangaroo court :rotfl:


I think the pakis just realized that the days of britshit colonialism are not over yet.

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Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Peregrine » 24 May 2018 18:43

LIQUID FOREIGN EXCHANGE RESERVES (BILLION US$) - 18-05-2018

FUDGED RESERVES WITH SBP : 10.3202 - NET RESERVES WITH BANKS : 6.3320 - TOTAL RESERVES : 16.6522

ACTUAL RESERVES WITH SBP : 04.5202 - NET RESERVES WITH BANKS : 6.3320 - TOTAL RESERVES : 10.8522


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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby chetak » 24 May 2018 19:12

sanjaykumar wrote:^^Too bad they didn't take a selfie.


How did these pious, presumably well brought up, sheltered, cultured and sharia compliant, islamic young women know about masturbation??

just curious onlee.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 24 May 2018 19:31

China extends currency swap deal with Pakistan - PTI
BEIJING: China today extended currency swap agreement with Pakistan amid reports that Beijing has given a USD one billion loan to Islamabad to avert a foreign currency crisis.

The People's Bank of China, the country's central bank, said today it had extended a currency swap agreement with the State Bank of Pakistan.

The swap is sized at 20 billion yuan (USD 3.1 billion) or 351 billion Pakistani rupees, according to a statement from the bank.

The two parties believe the extension will facilitate bilateral trade and investment to help economic development in the two countries.

Valid for three years, the agreement can be extended upon mutual consent.

A currency swap deal allows two institutions to exchange payments in one currency for equivalent amounts in the other to facilitate bilateral trade settlements and provide liquidity support to financial markets, state-run Xinhua news agency reported today.

In an interview with The Financial Times, the State Bank of Pakistan Governor Tariq Bajwa confirmed the loans were made by Beijing-backed banks in April on good rates.

"The money strengthens the financial, political and military ties between the two countries," the top Pakistani banker was quoted as saying by the paper.

"Chinese commercial banks are awash with liquidity {and so, we are entitled to that}," Bajwa said.


Pakistan's foreign exchange reserves have dropped from USD 18.1 billion in April last year to USD 10.8 billion in May this year.

According to the report, Pakistani officials also hope that borrowing from Chinese banks will save the nation from seeking help from the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Lending money to Pakistan also favours China, said FT quoting Pakistani officials, as it does not wish to disclose details of the loans that are part of the China-Pakistan Economic Cooperation (CPEC) project.

China is investing almost USD 60 billion on building infrastructure in Pakistan. However, Beijing is reluctant to reveal the sum it is lending to Islamabad as part of the CPEC project.

According to the FT report, prior to last month's loan of USD one billion, Pakistan had borrowed almost USD 1.2 billion from Chinese banks since April, 2017 and more loans might follow. {Terroristan is rapidly joining the clubs of Sri Lanka, Maldives, Vanuatu, Djibouti et al, if not already there}

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Postby Peregrine » 24 May 2018 19:34

SBP governor confirms Chinese loans amid currency crunch

KARACHI: Pakistan's central bank chief confirmed on Wednesday receiving Chinese loans to stave off a foreign currency crisis as Islamabad finds itself caught in growing global pressure on emerging markets.

Talking to the Financial Times, State Bank Governor Tariq Bajwa said that Pakistan received one billion US dollars’ worth of loans at “good, competitive rates” from Chinese banks last month after official data showed the country’s foreign currency reserves almost halved in the past two years.

Pakistan previously secured Chinese loans worth 1.2 billion US dollars in the 12 months prior to April 2017, with authorities in Islamabad keen to avoid seeking financial aid at the International Monetary Fund, a route the country has been forced to take 12 times in the past 30 years.

Pakistan’sforeign currency reserves have dropped from over 18 billion US dollars to 10.8 billion, with the country struggling with low exports and increasing imports.

While Bajwa told the Financial Times that “Chinese commercial banks are awash with liquidity,” critics have said authorities are not doing enough to handle structural problems within the economy.

A lack of fiscal discipline has seen Pakistan’s budget deficit reach a record 1.48 trillion rupees (12.8 billion US dollars) in the first nine months of the fiscal year, equal to 4.3 percent of the country’s GDP, according to Finance Ministry data released on Tuesday.

The rupee hit a record low in December 2017, but the country's exports still remain low.

In the face of an increasingly strong US dollar, that currency slide could get even worse, with Pakistan suffering from many of the same issues seen in other emerging markets in recent weeks.

A recent tendency for short-term foreign currency loans has seen Pakistan spend 1.172 trillion rupees (10.1 billion US dollars) on servicing debt in the last nine months, equal to 86 percent of the annual budget estimate. The strong dollar and a weak rupee will only make that debt more expensive.

However, the 54 billion US dollar investment from China via the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) is expected to solve significant infrastructure problems across the country.

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Postby SBajwa » 24 May 2018 19:41

krishna_krishna wrote:
sum wrote:^^ People like Dulat and MS Aiyar were at helm of MEA/IB/RAW all the years of the 90s.

Cant even imagine how we held as a country through the 90s with such rot within


+100 Dulat is a third grad sold out, see online interviews to thapar where he narrates how he got the prisoners from JK jail to Kandahar. His tenure was the darkest in the history of independent India , from kargil to Kandahar he wrecks of sold inaptitude. His IB upbringing corrupted RAW and bought its edge too levels unseen. Turd proudly confessed to giving HM leaders son medical seat admission in Srinagar and saving mush's life.

RAW chiefs fight India's enemies (including ISI), sends messages, discuss as well however no chief worth its salt will appease to porkis or make peace, or write a book with them. This Kashmiri sees only his personal profit do hell with country. Traitor belongs to club of MKN, MSA and SSM all third grade rats.

Not at all surprised at the timings, with things not going to pleasantly for porkis at border or elsewhere they are desperate to have some sort of dialogue. With Indian strategy of hard response has shocked them to the core, with army chief conveying their willingness through ISPR, afghan president etc one can imagine. This is just opening of all the Dallas they hold their on their pay roll.

On a side note saw on twitter first time since 2002 a heavy caliber weapon was captured by the army from BAT team, an isobaric weapon. This shows their utter desperation.


They even coined "Saffron Terror" and it will not surprise me that some of the terrorist attacks were both ISI+RAW operation to blame it on majority to keep BJP away. M S Aiyar is definitely Baki and is behind these.

Now again retired heads of ISI+RAW are coming out and discussing things like "United Federation of India" by nullifying Bakistan.

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SBajwa wrote:
krishna_krishna wrote:
+100 Dulat is a third grad sold out, see online interviews to thapar where he narrates how he got the prisoners from JK jail to Kandahar. His tenure was the darkest in the history of independent India , from kargil to Kandahar he wrecks of sold inaptitude. His IB upbringing corrupted RAW and bought its edge too levels unseen. Turd proudly confessed to giving HM leaders son medical seat admission in Srinagar and saving mush's life.

RAW chiefs fight India's enemies (including ISI), sends messages, discuss as well however no chief worth its salt will appease to porkis or make peace, or write a book with them. This Kashmiri sees only his personal profit do hell with country. Traitor belongs to club of MKN, MSA and SSM all third grade rats.

Not at all surprised at the timings, with things not going to pleasantly for porkis at border or elsewhere they are desperate to have some sort of dialogue. With Indian strategy of hard response has shocked them to the core, with army chief conveying their willingness through ISPR, afghan president etc one can imagine. This is just opening of all the Dallas they hold their on their pay roll.

On a side note saw on twitter first time since 2002 a heavy caliber weapon was captured by the army from BAT team, an isobaric weapon. This shows their utter desperation.


They even coined "Saffron Terror" and it will not surprise me that some of the terrorist attacks were both ISI+RAW operation to blame it on majority to keep BJP away. M S Aiyar is definitely Baki and is behind these.

Now again retired heads of ISI+RAW are coming out and discussing things like "United Federation of India" by nullifying Bakistan.


Dulat is a oily, slippery smooth and a very slick operator, all hat and no cattle, like tharoor once said in some other context.

Looks and talks like a hungry used car salesman whose business has dried up and there are no takers for the lemons that he seeks to peddle as good bargains.

How did RAW end up with people like him?? and this guy was trusted with national security matters?? wow.

He was a relative unknown, until like the snake oil salesman that he is, he suddenly popped up on the lootyens canvas, endorsed by the hoi polloi paki pasand designer kurta wearing track thoo lot.

It is not a mere coincidence or some happenstance that he surfaced when he did.

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Postby Bart S » 24 May 2018 20:24

SSridhar wrote:China extends currency swap deal with Pakistan - PTI
BEIJING: China today extended currency swap agreement with Pakistan amid reports that Beijing has given a USD one billion loan to Islamabad to avert a foreign currency crisis.

"Chinese commercial banks are awash with liquidity {and so, we are entitled to that}," Bajwa said.


:rotfl:

Reminds me of a Paki talk show where they interviewed Hussain Haqqani and among the ISPR-supplied talking points was a threat that if America didn't give them baksheesh and take their side, they would choose China. He replied, without batting an eyelid, that he has a feel for what people in Washington think and they would be quite happy for China to take Pakistan off their hands and for Pakistan to become China's problem instead of theirs. Looks like that is finally happening.

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Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 20:42

ISI "Saazish" Against Ganja Sharif :roll:

Snake found from Islamabad’s court as Nawaz Sharif appears for corruption hearing :D

ISLAMABAD – People at an accountability court in Pakistan’s federal capital got extremely uncomfortable when they spotted a 5-foot snake on Wednesday. Former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, who is facing multiple corruption cases in the wake of Panama Papers scandal, had just left the courtroom in Islamabad when the reptile was found from the court premises. Someone from the ISI fouled up on the timing of the release of the snake :mrgreen:
People were frightened after seeing the snake while security personnel were called in who killed the reptile (most likely a Russell’s Viper).
Are vipers native to Pakiland, or were they imported to do this dirty job for ISI :mrgreen:
Russell’s viper, also known as the “chain viper” from the genus Daboia, is the most common viper in Pakistan. Although it’s primarily nocturnal, during the day the Russell’s viper may be found basking under shrubs, which accounts for most reported cases of bites on humans when they mistakenly step on the snake in its natural habitat. The bite causes pain, swelling and bleeding, leading to decreased blood pressure and reduced heart rate. The mortality rate of victims is 40 to 92 percent.
So, the viper is quite comfortable in Pakiland . Probably has lots of "good company" at the ISI Headquarters in Abpara neighborhood of Isloo :mrgreen:
Talking to media persons outside Accountability Court, the former prime minister blamed former president Pervez Musharraf for his troubles.
The embattled former premier Nawaz Sharif told the media outside that the three corruption cases filed against him were a result of the high treason case he instituted against former military ruler Pervez Musharraf.
Ganja blissfully unaware of this "plot" to poison him :roll:
“After the elections, my government reached out to lawyers to start formulating a treason case against Musharraf as per law. I was warned in advance that if I proceed with this, the former president will emerge scratch-less but I will be the one facing hurdles,” Sharif told reporters after appearing before the accountability court where he completed recording of his statement in response to 128 questions asked by the court.
Ganja is bent on washing Pakistan's dirty linen in public :mrgreen:

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The non-human snake !

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Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 20:48

Three Of The Thirteen Hijra ( Politely Named As Transgenders :mrgreen: ) Candidates Who Will Be Making "Election History" In Pakiland !

For the first time in history, 13 transgenders to contest General Elections
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Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 20:56

Pakistan Foreign Exchange Reserves register sudden decline of Rs 50 billion
May 24, 2018

KARACHI – Pakistan’s foreign exchange reserves registered decrease of 415 million dollars.As per details, the country’s foreign exchange reserves stood around $16.652 billion, whereas, the central bank’s reserves declined $479 million to $10.329 billion
Foreign exchange reserves held by other banks have increased $64 million to $6.332 billion.
Message unclear. Does not say that this "disappearing act " is before or after the "injection of Chini money" :mrgreen:

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Postby chetak » 24 May 2018 20:57

anupmisra wrote:More expose from Door-Ki-Rani (Ghar ka Bhedi). First one implicates mushy (in the Kargil fiasco) and skewers ganja sharief (for approving it). Other exposes as well.

Posting in full.

Nawaz knew little about ‘foolish’ Kargil op: ex-ISI chief

ISLAMABAD: Former Director General (DG) Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt Gen (retd) Asad Durrani claims former military dictator Pervez Musharraf was obsessed with Kargil and it was a foolish operation. He claims Nawaz Sharif knew a very little about it and not the whole thing, but he had given the go-ahead, so he had to take political responsibility.

The former DG ISI made startling revelations in his new book co-authored by former RAW chief A S Dulat. The former spymaster has talked on almost every important issue related to India and Pakistan. General (retd) Durrani claims that after the Kargil operation, Musharraf was under pressure and knew that he would be sacked by Nawaz Sharif, so he developed a contingency plan in advance.

According to General (retd) Durrani, the Kargil operation was carried out after Indian Prime Minister Vajpayee’s visit to Lahore. Vajpayee’s initiative benefited India because everyone blamed Pakistan for Kargil, which was anyway a foolish operation, says Gen (retd) Durrani.

“As a two-star DGMO, he suggested doing so during Benazir Bhutto's second tenure. 'Prime Minister, we can do that,' so he said. She replied, 'Maybe you can, but politically it won't be sustainable.' When he became the army chief, he said that after carrying out nuclear tests Pakistan was in a better position for the operation," says Gen (retd) Durrani.

According to former spymaster, Nawaz Sharif, the then Prime Minister of Pakistan knew a very little about this operation, however, he gave go-ahead to Musharraf. Therefore, he says he would give him the benefit of doubt.

“How the rest of the world reacted to his irresponsibility. He probably misjudged India’s strong reaction too. Vajpayee was going for early elections, so leaving it at that would have cost him dearly. It misfired and the heights had to be vacated. Only a few people were privy to the plan. Nawaz Sharif knew a bit, not the whole thing, but he had given the go-ahead, so he had to take political responsibility. I give him the benefit of doubt, that he did not know the plan’s extent; he may have thought that just a small area would be taken”, says the former spymaster.

General (retd) Asad believes that Musharraf made a flawed assessment of nuclearization theory that the hostilities would not escalate in the post-nuclearization era. “His premise on ‘nuclear immunity’: that after going nuclear, we could get away with plenty of things. The part he got wrong, of course, was that if you do these things it may not escalate to nuclear war but you would be accused of being reckless, unwise. That you are risking a nuclear confrontation in the belief that 95 per cent of the time it will not happen. But what about the other 5 per cent?” says Gen (retd) Durrani.

General (retd) Durrani claims that Musharraf was under immense pressure after the failed operation and one day he invited him to his office for advice. “In August, Musharraf and I had a one-on-one. Musharraf invited me to his office and said the government was bent upon publicly blaming the army for the Kargil fiasco. Fine, I said, so what? He said he just wanted my opinion on what would happen. I said, if I know Nawaz Sharif, he would continue to be uncomfortable with you, as he was with Baig, with Asif Nawaz, and even with Jehangir Karamat, who was a laid-back army chief, professionally sound and who did not throw his weight around. Even after the 1998 Indian nuclear tests, Karamat said merely, prime minister, this is the army’s view, you have to consider the political and economic fallout. But with him also it did not work out; three months before he was to retire, he resigned rather than take a second more of the acrimony. So I told Musharraf it won’t work out with you. He’ll look for an opportunity to get rid of you. But this is not the right environment for a political coup; 'even banana republics nowadays have a façade of democracy,' I remember saying. So go ahead and think of the next step. That's where I left. It was clear that Musharraf could not launch a coup”.

According to the former spymaster, after the Kargil operation Musharraf knew that he would be sacked so he developed a contingency plan in advance. "In September Nawaz Sharif concluded that he would be uncomfortable with Musharraf continuing in the powerful post. One way of making Musharraf irrelevant without sacking him was to promote him to be the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This is a post that commands one PA and one orderly. :rotfl: An emissary was sent with the offer but Musharraf turned it down. Nawaz Sharif then offered to keep him as the army chief and also promote him as chairman. Musharraf says, that I can do. It became clear to Musharraf that he would be sacked at the first opportunity, so he developed a contingency plan”.

Talking about the Abbottabad operation by American Navy Seals killing Osama Bin Laden, the former spy chief urged General (retd) Ashfaq Pervez Kayani and General (retd) Ahmed Shuja Pasha to make public if there was any deal about the OBL operation. “I don’t think there is any reason for him, or for Pasha who was heading the ISI at that time, for keeping quiet. Get the secret out because we've been getting the worst of both worlds. We are blamed for incompetence, for playing a double game; and what did we get in return? That is what I want to know”.

He believed there was a retired Pakistani officer who told the Americans about the whereabouts of OBL. "There was a retired Pakistani officer in intelligence walked in and told the Americans. I won’t take his name because I can’t prove it and also I don’t want to give him any publicity. How much of the 50 million dollars he got, who knows. But he is missing from Pakistan”.

To a question about Indian consulates in Afghanistan, General (retd) Durrani says, “If Indian consulates are used, we’ll be happy. There are four consulates and an embassy but we need not inflate their number. In Pakistan some people, who are ill-informed and sometimes silly, will talk of nine consulates, 18; the maximum number I’ve heard is 23. If the Indians were to conduct espionage from four consulates, then we should be happy because then we can keep track. Anyway, espionage is usually not done from there. A couple of Indian construction companies could employ a couple of Jadhavs. That is difficult to track. Essentially, we exaggerate Indian influence like we exaggerated the number of consulates. What worried me most about the Jadhav case was the Iranian factor. It has led to speculation in Pakistan, that when Mullah Akhtar Mansoor was returning from some meetings in Iran, Iranian intelligence put a chip in his vehicle that helped the Americans to track him down. Even if this was true I would not talk about it. It’s creating problems between Iran and Pakistan. But regarding Balochistan: espionage happens, people are involved. Second, I’ve always felt we are overplaying India’s involvement. The Americans are more involved. There are others who have more reason to get involved”.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/320559 ... -isi-chief



Here is durrani


https://youtu.be/Z__lyS-wI7c

Pakistan: Victim or exporter of terrorism? - Head to Head.

General Asad Durrani, the former head of the ISI, Pakistan's notorious spy agency, on its role in the "War on Terror".



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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby mappunni » 24 May 2018 20:58

Falijee wrote:Paki Diplomutts To The Rescue Of The Al- Qaeda "Doctor" Held In US Jail :roll:

Pakistani diplomat meets Dr Aafia Siddiqui in US prison, quashes online rumours of her death

WASHINGTON – A Pakistani diplomat to the US has rejected all rumours emerging on social media about the death of Dr. Aafia Siddiqui in a Texas prison.
Pakistani consul general in Houston Aisha Farooqui met the Pakistani scientist at Carswell detention facility in Fort Worth, Texas. It was the fourth meeting in 14 months and lasted about two hours.
Not sure if Fort Worth Texas is within the 25-50 mile radius of Houston :roll: ( that Paki Diplomutts are allowed to travel without getting special permission )

No Sirjee Its well over 4 to 5 hours depending on the traffic on I-45. Its closer to Dallas than to Houston.

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 21:08

CJP Saquib In China . Spreading His Paki Wings There :mrgreen:

CJP Justice Saqib Nisar takes a bold stance on CPEC in meeting with Chinese counterpart :roll: ( WTF "bold stance" means !)
24 May, 2018

BEIJING - Chief Justice of Pakistan, Mian Saqib Nisar, met with Hon’ble Zhou Qiang, President of the Supreme Peoples Court of China, today in Beijing.
The Honourable Chief Justice is on an official visit to China to attend the thirteenth meeting of the Presidents/ Chief Justices of the Supreme Courts of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) member states. Another "free trip" on taxpayer expense. Are his "lovely daughters" also tagging along !
The CJP apprised Zhou Qiang on the implementation of a MoU signed between the judicial institutions of the two countries last year, during the visit of Hon’ble Chief Justice to China. :((
Saqib Nisar also said that China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) is a flagship project of One Belt One Road Initiative (BRI) and judiciary of Pakistan fully supports CPEC and committed to taking measures to ease out commercial disputes for smooth implementation of CPEC projects. Did he touch upon the need for transparency . Is he, as CJP aware that the detailed ( CPEC ) agreement has not yet been published or made available to members of the Paki National Assembly
The Supreme Court of Pakistan has also issued directions to the lower courts not to issue injunctive orders on CPEC projects unless the other parties have been heard. He also briefed the Hon’ble Zhou Qiang about the recently concluded Islamabad Judicial Conference. :roll: concession to the Chinese? . President Zhou Qiang appreciated the initiatives taken by the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
:(( Chinese - the new sugar daddy of Pakiland :roll:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 21:57

More And More Of Second Generation Paki Ayeshas Are Facing Similar Experience. Maybe A "Milder Version" Of Honor Killing" :roll:

Italy student flies home from Pakistan after forced abortion
24 May 2018

A student has returned to Italy after accusing her family in Pakistan of luring her home to terminate her pregnancy.The 19-year-old, named Farah, had been studying in Verona when she became pregnant a few months ago. Interesting to know who is the "responsible dad". A Paki Abdul or an Italian Romeo :mrgreen: Her family took her back to Pakistan in February and later she appealed to friends for help, saying her baby had been aborted against her will.
She was finally rescued by Pakistani police in Islamabad last week.She arrived at Milan's Malpensa airport, having been looked after for several days at the Italian ambassador's residence in the Pakistani capital. She is due to discuss her ordeal with police in Verona.
So, the parents plans to "keep her under purdah" failed miserably !
"They sedated me, tied me to a bed and forced me to have an abortion," said Farah of her family, in one of the messages published by Italian media.Farah's story emerged weeks after the death of an Italian woman in Pakistan amid reports that she may have been murdered by relatives in an honour killing.
Friends in the city of Brescia, to the west of Verona, said Sana Cheema, 26, had wanted to marry a Pakistani-Italian man in Italy despite opposition from her family.
Not sure if the Paki Govt realizes that this, like honour killing , is going to an endemic problem as more and more first generation parents bring their second generation girls (educated in Europe and North America ) "home" to get them hitched with illiterate male cousins, relatives etc etc against their will , so the Paki Abdul has a meal ticket to the west :twisted:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 22:03

Another Example Of "Keep Them Happy And Well Fed ", If You Know What Is Good For You," Syndrome :twisted:

Sikhs host Iftar dinner for Muslims in Sialkot
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The Sikh community hosted an Iftar dinner for Muslims at the historical and ancient Gurudawara Baabey Di Beri in Sialkot. Sardar Jaskaran Singh, the caretaker of Gurudawara said that the aim of hosting an Iftar dinner was to promote inter-faith harmony. He said that minorities in Pakistan were enjoying a complete religious freedom and the government was making sincere efforts to ensure the protection of their basic rights. Chairman Pakistan Council for Social Welfare and Human Rights Muhammad Ejaz Noori stressed the need for promotion of inter-faith harmony among all the communities for the national development and prosperity of Pakistan besides upholding the prestige of Pakistan globally. He said that minorities have played a pivotal role in elimination of terrorism, militancy and extremism from the country. :((

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Vips » 24 May 2018 22:14

Jizya

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 22:30

Immy Scores And The Crowd House Applauds :mrgreen:

FATA’s merger is victory of Pakistan: Imran Khan ( and a "defeat" for Diesel The Maulana :roll: )
May 24, 2018

Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf chairman Imran Khan Thursday hailed the merger of FATA with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, as his party lawmakers voted in favour of the historic legislation. The PTI chief, who generally boycotts National Assembly sessions, attended today’s session to cast his vote on the legislation.
So, he attends the NA session, "once in a blue moon" and still gets to collect his salary as MNA . And this "guy" wants to become Paki PM . There should be some sort of a law on the books "prohibiting" such a behaviour !
The house passed “Constitution (31st Amendment) Bill, 2018” with over two- thirds majority envisaging merger of FATA with KP. Khan addressed the house amid ruckus during his speech in which he criticised the ruling party.
“It was our right to raise voice against public issues and money laundering, but some lawmakers here are bent upon protecting corrupt politicians only for their own interests,” Khan said.“I’m proud of a successful struggle that resulted in conviction of a corrupt prime minister on charges of money laundering.”Khan said the adoption of KP-FATA merger bill is a historic moment in the history of Pakistan. He urged government to constitute a committee to review the implementation.Imran Khan hoped that peace will be restored in the tribal areas after the legislation.
He is speaking like he is a PM already !
In the voting, 229 MNAs from PML-N, PPP, PTI, MQM-P and Jamat-e-Islami voted in favour of the bill while lawmakers of JUI-F and PkMAP opposed it while staging walkout.
Maulana Fazl ( AKA Diesel !) is deadly against the merger. He figures ( correctly ) that this will immensely dilute his power in the Tribal Areas , leave alone the fact that his days of "dipping" into the public treasury to maintain his "comfortable" life style ( free bungalow, free car, free air travel , free hotel stay, free medical ) are going to be shortly over, unless he ingratiates himself to someone in power :mrgreen: :
Elections to these seats shall be held within one year after the general elections 2018.
Of course, all this has happened without any sort of referendum being held in FATA or any sort of input from the residents there . Welcome to Democracy Paki Style :twisted:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 22:48

Is The Saudi Embassy In Isloo Aware Of This New Paki "Umra" Scam Or Are They Sleeping On Their Job- As Usual - In The "Holy" Month Of Ramazan :twisted:

Umrah package scam: FIA recovers 1500 more passports from suspects
May 24, 2018

FIA recovered 1500 more passports from the suspects involved in the fake umrah packages scandal, on Thursday. According to details, the FIA conducted a raid at the suspects’ house and took into custody 1500 more passports that were found. The passports were recovered after the suspects confessed to being involved in the scam. Not sure if someone from the Passport Office provided them blanks or the "1500 more passports" were superbly manufactured in the counterfeit capital of Pakistan, Gujrat City in Pakjab . Most illegal immigrants settled in Italy, Spain and other European cities come from around this area ! :twisted:
Three days ago, the FIA arrested a gang of three suspects who defrauded people by selling them fake umrah packages. This was the biggest scam in the history of Punjab as the total amount received by the gang through the fraud amounts to Rs63 crore. The gang had defrauded 10,000 people from Gujranwala division and pocketed hundreds of thousands of rupees through the scam


PS: Illegal emigration is a big, big, industry in Pakiland . And so is a mini industry created around illegal Paki Immigrants caught and deported back . So much so that "special counters " are set up at Karachi, La-Whore and Isloo Airports to handle "such human traffic" :mrgreen:


PPS: Countries like Kuwait, UAE, Saudia have very very strict rules for issuing visa for Paki Abduls . Getting a visa for Western Europe and North America is virtually impossible unless you belong to RAPE class :twisted:

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Re: Terroristan - April 24, 2018

Postby Falijee » 24 May 2018 23:04

Asad Durrani : India Could Get Back Jadhav For The Right Price :roll:



Analysis: Should state secrets be revealed to sell books?
May 24, 2018
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The book “The Spy Chronicles” is jointly authored by former ISI chief Asad Durrani and former chief of R&AW AS Dulat.Anchor Shahzad Iqbal discusses the book and how the former ISI chief has openly discussed state secrets in it which could prove to be damaging for Pakistan.
This book was launched in India but has so far not been released in Pakistan. Mr. Durrani couldn’t attend its launching ceremony in Delhi due as he was not issued a visa.
In the book, Durrani has talked about the ISI’s role in the formation of the Hurriyat and its support to the early days of Kashmiri separatism.Dulat talked about Kulbhushan Jadhav and said that “It is quite simple and easy for India to get him back to”.
On Dulat’s remark on Kulbhushan’s return, Durrani wrote that “Pakistan should return him (Jadhav) for the right price”.The book sheds light on how Durrani's son was arrested in Mumbai but was then released as a result of backchannel negotiations with R&AW.The book claims that Musharraf was warned about the attempt on his life in 2003 by none other than the R&AW.

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