Terroristan - July 27, 2018

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It Is Confirmed That The Unsuspecting Pakis Were Taken For A "Ride" On The LaWhore Orange Line Metro Project :twisted:

Here’s Why Orange Line May Be The Most Expensive Project of its Kind Worldwide
Pro Pakistani
Aug 29, 2018
With no date in sight in the near future :D for the completion of mass-transit project Orange Line Metro Train (OLMT), concerned officials have revealed that the OLMT’s cost of civil infrastructure is far less than its associated costs of rolling stock and related infrastructure. In short, the Orange Line Metro Train Project may just be one of the most expensive projects of its kind not just in Pakistan, but worldwide.
The country’s first mass-transit train project will connect different parts of Lahore once completed. It is being developed for $1.65 billion, the total cost of the project, that have been given under a loan by China’s Exim Bank. ( under "gamechanger" CPEC :roll: ) . According to experts, the OLMT is considered as one of the most expensive projects of its kind worldwide due to the following observations.
For the OLMT, costs associated with its rolling stock, mechanical and electrical infrastructure, tracks etc. have doubled when compared to the money used for the civil infrastructure component of the project. This is an alarming revelation for such a huge mega project, as its civil cost covers 2/3rd of the entire project cost.
plus Chini second hand maal "dressed up" as brand new :roll:
Two European companies Alstom and Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles have signed a deal with Barcelona Metropolitan Transport for two 12-car trains for $107 million.
The official also pointed out that the government has spent $1 billion for electrical and mechanical works, tracks and 135 coaches (27 5-car trains) from China, which accounts for over 60% of the total project cost. He believes that a similar train coach costs $1.6-1.7 million each. If we take this figure into account, the 135 coaches should amount to no more than $220-230 million cumulatively.
Do the unwashed Abduls of La-Whore really need a brand new spanking transportation system . What is wrong with the "tonga system" which has served them well for hundreds and hundreds of years very efficiently and reliably :mrgreen:
If the government is paying remaining $700 million for only laying tracks, as well as the electrical, mechanical and signalling works, then questions abound. The project is being constructed through a loan that will be ultimately paid through the taxpayers’ money.
If this White Elephant Project is any indicator , no wonder that Pakiland is almost bankrupt and has no option but to approach the IMF to pay off these huge Chini loans . Just imagine a few projects like this under CPEC and one can imagine the empty Treasury !

PS: Not sure if "commissions" are included or excluded from these cost over runs :mrgreen:
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Pakis Are Becoming Part And Parcel Of The Chini- Internet System . Agreement Signed For A Paki- Djibouti Underground Cable With A Chinese Company With An Orwellian Name Of PEACE :mrgreen:

PEACE Cable System Initiates Landing Cooperation with Pakistan and Djibouti
Aug 29, 2018

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(left to right) Mr. Frederick Chui, SVP Global Data at PCCW, Sun Xiaohua, COO of PEACE and Mr. Danish Lakhani, CEO of Cybernet at the signing ceremony

PS: In a couple of years the Pakis will be "introduced" to the dreaded Chini Internet And Censorship System !
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‘Railways no one’s father’s property’: opposition walks out over Rashid’s coment

Leaders of opposition bench protested the use of such phrase by the minister and walked out of the session

ISLAMABAD: The opposition walked out of the Senate session on Wednesday following the Minister for Railways Sheikh Rashid remarks that the land belonging to the railway ministry was not anybody’s “father’s property.”

Leaders of opposition bench protested the use of such phrase by the minister and walked out of the session.

During the session, the newly appointed railways’ minister stated that the ministry had a land of 20,000 acres that was not in use, however, he said that we would leave it on the Cabinet to decide whether the land should be sold or leased out.

Also read Sheikh Rashid’s publicity stunt backfires after users commend Saad Rafique over train video

“Land belonging to the railway ministry is not anybody’s father’s property, it belonged to the government, which should make decisions regarding the property,” however, Rashid added, “land mafia considers railway land as their father’s property.”

Speaking of the losses faced by the ministry, Rashid said railways stood at a loss of Rs30 billion in 2013, which now has increased up to Rs41 billion, in 2018.

Also read Sheikh Rashid vows to slash Railways deficit

Earlier at a news conference, Rashid said they would work on bringing down the expenses of the railway ministry. Speaking about his plans, the minister said they would curtail the expenses by 15%.

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Falijee wrote:It Is Confirmed That The Unsuspecting Pakis Were Taken For A "Ride" On The LaWhore Orange Line Metro Project :twisted:

Here’s Why Orange Line May Be The Most Expensive Project of its Kind Worldwide
Pro Pakistani - Aug 29, 2018
With no date in sight in the near future :D for the completion of mass-transit project Orange Line Metro Train (OLMT), concerned officials have revealed that the OLMT’s cost of civil infrastructure is far less than its associated costs of rolling stock and related infrastructure. In short, the Orange Line Metro Train Project may just be one of the most expensive projects of its kind not just in Pakistan, but worldwide.
The country’s first mass-transit train project will connect different parts of Lahore once completed. It is being developed for $1.65 billion, the total cost of the project, that have been given under a loan by China’s Exim Bank. ( under "gamechanger" CPEC :roll: ) . According to experts, the OLMT is considered as one of the most expensive projects of its kind worldwide due to the following observations. For the OLMT, costs associated with its rolling stock, mechanical and electrical infrastructure, tracks etc. have doubled when compared to the money used for the civil infrastructure component of the project. This is an alarming revelation for such a huge mega project, as its civil cost covers 2/3rd of the entire project cost.
Falijee Ji :
The Orange Line is 27.1 Kilo Metres - about 25.4 KM is "Elevated" - and with the Total Costs at US$ 1.6 Billion which works out to US$ 59 Million per KM.

It is no wonder that the Sharrif Family's Total worth is In Billions of US Dollars.

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Unmanageable Circular Debt , Nose Diving Paki Rupee, Foreign Debts Coming Due, So -Called Stolen Money Not Coming Back . Asad Umer Financial Minister Has His Work Cut Out For Him Already :twisted:

Circular debt stands at Rs 596 billion, ECC informed
Aug 29, 2018
ISLAMABAD – The Economic Coordination Committee (ECC) of the cabinet was informed on Wednesday that the amount of circular debt is standing at Rs 596 billion with an increase of Rs 30 billion in the last month. The meeting of the ECC was held under the chairmanship of Finance Minister Asad Umar Federal at the Prime Minister’s Secretariat.
The last thing The Kaptaan needs is an application for "stress leave" from his Finance Minister :mrgreen:
Chairman ECC stated that all facts will be shared with the public to make decision making a transparent and inclusive exercise.
Buzz words ! Pakis are stuck between a rock and a hard place !
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It Now Appears That The Kaptaan ( Imran Khan) Was At The Receiving End Of Some "Straight Talk" From Pompeo And He Did Not Have The Guts To Challenge The Secretary :twisted:

US releases transcript of PM Imran Khan and Mike Pompeo telephone call, it's embarrassing
Aug 29, 2018
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan faces the diplomatic embarrassment as the United States has sent the transcript of the telephonic conversation between Prime Minister Imran Khan and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Pakistan. :D
The transcript clearly shows what was discussed during the talks, diplomatic sources said on Tuesday.The sources told The Nation that the transcript had ‘embarrassed’ the government who had challenged the contents released by the US State Department.
So, all this "huff and puff" by the "Esteemed Doctor" of the Paki F.O. was for nothing . And the Kaptaan, ( because of his Echendee !) did not challenge the pompous Faisal and remained silent on the contents of the phone talk . Shocking IMO !
The statement issued by the State Department had said: “Secretary Pompeo raised the importance of Pakistan taking decisive action against all terrorists operating in Pakistan and its vital role in promoting the Afghan peace process.”Pakistan rejected the statement as ‘factually incorrect’ and urged the US not to twist the facts. The US is yet to issue an official clarification and Washington also did not change or withdraw the State Department release.
The incompetent personnel of the Paki FO stand exposed once more ! Remember the time that (loud mouth) Asif jumped the gun and announced "prematurely and confidently" that Pakistan has escaped the FATF Greylist :twisted:
The US, however, sent the transcript to Pakistan to ‘satisfy’ Islamabad that the State department’s release was not ‘incorrect’, the sources said. The US has not sent any comment with the transcript, the sources added.
The US knows when to NOT rub salt in the wounds :mrgreen:
One official said: “Now, we don’t want to create more misunderstandings as we already have trust issues with the US. Raising this issue further could mean more misunderstandings.”
Right now, the Pakis need US Moolahs big time and ASAP . Therefore further "misunderstanding" is not desirable !
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How many HIV/AIDS patients are living in Pakistan?
Aug 29, 2018

Pakistan , an Islamic Republic has HIV / AIDS . :shock: I was always under the impression that HIV/ AIDS is a "western disease" which strikes "only" Non- Islamic Nations because of the "wrath of God" and also promiscuous lifestyle and drug culture ( needle sharing !) of their citizens . To the best of my knowledge , have not heard of this disease striking nations like Saudi Arabia and Iran , Malaysia and Indonesia, Sudan and Somalia ! Maybe, Pakistan is an exception :twisted:
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Cracks Already Appearing In The Kaptaan's Facade Of Austerity :D

Federal cabinet expansion, 10 new ministers to be inducted: Sources
Aug 29, 2018
ISLAMABAD - Prime Minister Imran Khan has decided to extend the federal cabinet in order to fill the vacant ministries slots, media has reported.
The federal cabinet is likely to be expanded as eight to 10 new members are expected to be inducted next month.
IMO, it is "payback" time . For the promises made to the "electables" who brought Immy to power . Old style politics in NAYA PAKISTAN :mrgreen:
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Is Madame Jalebi Aware That The Human Rights Of Paki Ayeshas Are Being Violated In La-Whore :twisted:

Man arrested for allegedly blackmailing girls
Pakistan Today
Aug 29, 2018
LAHORE: The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) detained a Ferozwala resident for allegedly blackmailing girls while using their videos and pictures, according to police.During a raid, the Cybercrime Wing of the investigation agency arrested the blackmailer and confiscated indecent videos and photos of different girls from his mobile phone and personal computer.In the name of job offers, the accused person tried to receive huge money from the victim girls while blackmailing to exposing them through social media. The agency registered a case against the man under the cyber act.
Has the report of this crime been forwarded to Minister Of Human Rights Shireen Mazari for her perusal :roll:
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After 71 Years Of Existence, Pakis Still Depend On( Massaland) USAID To Help Them In Vocational Training And Reporting On Labour Market Trends In Southern Pakjab :mrgreen:

USAID publishes skills gap analysis report
APP
Aug 29, 2018

Shocking that they do not have the skills or the wherewithal to produce such a report , even after 71 years . And have effectively "outsourced" such social sector functions to either foreign governments or foreign NGOs mainly for lack of funds and lack of technical expertise . But would it not be better if they stop demonizing those who are trying to help them !
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Treason case: Interpol declines Pak request for arresting Musharraf
The Ministry of Interior on Wednesday informed the Special Court hearing the high treason case against former military ruler Pervez Musharraf that Interpol has declined Pakistan’s request for the arrest of Musharraf.
“Interpol officials had said that the high treason case doesn’t fall under their legal ambit
the court ordered that during the next hearing arguments be given over whether Musharraf’s statement can be recorded via Skype
Musharraf had expressed his willingness to face the trial under the army’s protection and on a surety from the court that he would be given a safe passage to return to Dubai.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/361317 ... -musharraf
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Bharat Karnad outs himself with this extremely vile and pukeworthy farticle:
https://www.bloombergquint.com/opinion/ ... n-to-china
Why Not Show Pakistan The Same Consideration Shown To China?
It is a promising opening that the Bharatiya Janata Party government, if it has any strategic sense, should jump at widening by:

adopting a facilitative mindset,
initiating enabling measures,
clearing lines of credit and approving banking channels, and
preemptively easing the processes of encouraging commerce.
That said, it is also clear that General Headquarters in Rawalpindi is no more likely to terminate its terrorism leverage it can utilise to keep the Indian armed forces and government distracted, than India giving up on supporting Baluch freedom fighters to keep the Pakistan army committed and unsettled – as revealed by Prime Minister Modi in his 2016 Independence Day address from the Red Fort.


The supreme tragedy is that the strategically handicapped and permanently shortsighted Indian governments, particularly in the new century, have sacrificed the greater strategic good for the trivial satisfaction of discomfiting Pakistan and in the process pushing the latter more seriously into the China orbit.

Why not restart a dialogue on an open-ended basis with Islamabad to:

resolve the Kashmir issue,
open the Indian markets to Pakistani trade, and
have high-level military exchanges and joint war games with the Pakistan military.
Meanwhile, Indian and Pakistani troops on the LoC can continue gunning it out if they must, and ISI and RAW can keep at their covert operations.
I don't disagree with what he says about the China threat, but he is using that as a strawman argument to argue for giving a free run to the Pakis, something that has been done time and again with disastrous results for India. He also does an equal-equal (when none exists) between Paki terrorism and our security actions and is dismissive and derogatory about the immense sacrifices of our armed forces. Nobody with half brain can be this delusional, so he is clearly up to no good.
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Nominal PM Of Pakiland ( Imran Khan) Calls On The Real PM Of Pakiland ( Gen Pajwa ) :mrgreen:

PM Imran visits GHQ, gets briefed on defence, security: DG ISPR
COAS General Qamar Bajwa called on Prime Minister Imran Khan at the PM House on Monday, August 27. The two dignitaries expressed resolve to continue efforts for enduring peace and stability in the country. :D
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Is Pakistan Tilting Towards Iran Under Imran's NAYA PAKISTAN :roll:

Iran’s Foreign Minister Zarif arrives Islamabad today
ARY News
Aug 30, 2018
ISLAMABAD: Iran’s Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif will arrive on a two-day visit of Pakistan on Thursday (today).The visiting foreign minister will hold talks with Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi in a one-on-one meeting to discuss bilateral relations and expansion of cooperation in various fields.Zarif will also meet Prime Minister Imran Khan. PM Khan has expressed intention to improve and strengthen Pakistan’s ties with neighboring country Iran.Zarif is also expected to hold meetings with political and military leaders during his visit of Pakistan.It is first visit of Pakistan by a foreign minister after installation of the new government in Islamabad.Announcing the visit earlier in August, Foreign Minister Qureshi said that the Iran and Pakistan maintain brotherly ties and the two countries are interested in keeping security along the common borders.
A key barometer of the improving ties for Iran is whether Pakistan step up for the long-stalled Iran-Pakistan natural gas pipeline—a project first initiated in 1995. The $7.5 billion project, touted as delivering 21.5 million cubic metres of gas to energy-starved Pakistan, has been opposed by the US for years as part of Washington’s opposition to Iran’s nuclear programme.
The on-off , on-off project appears to be on again ! And what about Saudia ? The dushman of Iran . Imran should ensure that he does not rock any ties with the main mae baap of Pakiland . Otherwise, it will be neither there or neither here for him and his Finance Minister :mrgreen:
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In Anticipation Of The Annual UN General Assembly Meet, Pakistan Tries To "Warm Up" The Core Issue Once Again :mrgreen:

Pakistan pushes for implementation of Security Council resolutions on Kashmir
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Empty Rhetoric Is Not Going To Solve Paki Financial Problems !

Between hope and hype
Dawn- Khuram Husain
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THE only question now is this: when does the work begin? At some point, the optics must end and the policy must begin. One is waiting for that moment when one sees key members of the cabinet beginning to gel together as a team, when the language of the prime minister and his spokesman moves away from today’s little stunt to tomorrow’s big vision. The address to the nation may have been a starting point (at best), but by now we need to know the path forward. Thus far, there is nothing on that front.
Consider as an example the prime minister’s address to the Senate, his first. He repeated his concern about children’s health and stunting due to malnutrition, an admirable goal for a prime minister to pick, but there is no indication that he has been briefed on the work that is already under way in this area for at least two years now (the government of Sindh launched a programme in 2017 to reduce stunting in collaboration with the World Bank). If this is such an important priority (as it deserves to be), the least that Khan could do was find out how much there is to build on in this area, who are the right people to talk to and how to get a briefing from them.
IMO, Imran has always been a "hands off" person, ( eg. His attendance record in NA ) and it is unlikely that he is going to get his "hands dirty " in the nitty gritty of day to day government !
We are being reassured by the finance minister that work is currently under way to develop a broad plan to tackle the country’s growing deficits on the fiscal and external side. But from the prime minister, we hear repeatedly of a plan to ‘bring back looted money’ and hints of launching a donation drive among overseas Pakistanis. So which is it? Are we seriously going to try and plug a $2.2 billion monthly current account deficit by launching charity appeals to overseas Pakistanis and trying to ‘bring back looted wealth’? That sort of thing makes for excellent campaign rhetoric but lousy policy.
Too much is riding on this fantasy plan of bringing ( the unverified amount !) $ 200 Billion to solve all Paki problems !
Is this talk of appealing to overseas Pakistanis and pursuing looted funds abroad going to be the plan? Or is there more to come on that front? Will we ask for a bailout, when, and from whom? :D
Finance Minister Asad Umar wants to convince us that detailed work is being done on a plan for macroeconomic stabilisation.
He’s a busy man with a lot riding on his shoulders. One question for him: at what point will we begin to hear words being uttered by him coming out of Imran Khan’s mouth? How far will Umar be able to command the attention of the prime minister? Imran Khan would do himself a favour to listen more carefully to his finance minister, but will he? We’re waiting to see, because thus far there is no indication that he is doing so.
Imran will not get his hands dirty with the details . He is more in the mould of a Angrez Sahib :mrgreen:
There are some rules of politics in Pakistan. First rule: those in power get skewered, whether they like it or not. Second rule: those in power own the failures and deficits of the state.
When his plans crumble, he will blame Ganja Sharif for all this . That is the way things in Pakiland go !
So it’s a good idea to be prepared now to swallow a few basic realities. Donations, charities and appeals to people’s better nature are not going to cause revenues and foreign exchange inflows to materialise. Searching for, locating, seizing and repatriating ‘looted wealth stashed abroad’ is not going to be done so easily or so fast that it can help plug the deficits. We need a policy direction and we need it fast, and the only way that happens is if the party leadership stops fighting with everyone, pulls out of the business of optical stunts, and comes together as a team to put together a credible plan.
Let’s hope at the end of the day we will have more than totem poles, wild goose chases, madcap donation schemes and charismatic stunts to show for all the sound and fury. I, for one, am waiting for a team and a direction to emerge from this chaotic flux. The sooner the better, because those deficits aren’t going to plug themselves.
Mark my words . Imran is not going to be involved in the "details" of everything . With his so-called "Oxford education" he likes to think himself as a "big picture person", setting a few "austerity examples" ,to inspires the masses . Not taking any responsibility for the Pompeo phone call fiasco ! Let us see what happens in the future !
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India nabs Hizbul Mujahideen chief Syed Salahuddin's son - News Desk

The National Investigation Agency of India on Thursday claimed to have arrested Hizb-ul-Mujahideen chief Syed Salahuddin’s son Shakeel Yousaf in connection with a 2011 terror funding case, The Hindu reported.

The arrest was made at Srinagar’s Rambagh area in a joint operation conducted by Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and local police personnel, an NIA spokesperson said. Yousuf, a medical assistant at Srinagar’s Sher-i-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences, had been questioned several times earlier. He stopped appearing before the NIA after June 30 despite being summoned.

He is allegedly involved in transferring funds using hawala channels from Pakistan to Indian-occupied Kashmir. The agency claimed the funds were being used to finance ‘terrorism and secessionist activities.’

The NIA alleged that Shahid used to receive money through a US- based international wire transfer company from co-accused Aijaz Ahmed Bhatt. Saudi Arabia-based Bhatt is absconding.

The agency has filed three charge sheets against seven people till date. A close aide of pro-Pakistan separatist Syed Ali Geelani is among them.

Salahuddin’s other son Syed Shahid Yousaf was arrested in November, 2017. He remains incarcerated in Delhi’s Tihar Jail.

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The question is why were these 2 free for so long.
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Paki Army Now Takes Cricket Under Its Wings ( Imran orders :roll: )

Pakistan cricket team physical training camp starts under supervision of Pak Army
Aug 30, 2018
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Falijee wrote:In Anticipation Of The Annual UN General Assembly Meet, Pakistan Tries To "Warm Up" The Core Issue Once Again :mrgreen:

Pakistan pushes for implementation of Security Council resolutions on Kashmir
Any chance of Madame moving earth (human rite in kaashmir) at UN GA ?
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Bart S wrote:Bharat Karnad outs himself with this extremely vile and pukeworthy farticle:
https://www.bloombergquint.com/opinion/ ... n-to-china
Why Not Show Pakistan The Same Consideration Shown To China?
It is a promising opening that the Bharatiya Janata Party government, if it has any strategic sense, should jump at widening by:

adopting a facilitative mindset,
initiating enabling measures,
clearing lines of credit and approving banking channels, and
preemptively easing the processes of encouraging commerce.
That said, it is also clear that General Headquarters in Rawalpindi is no more likely to terminate its terrorism leverage it can utilise to keep the Indian armed forces and government distracted, than India giving up on supporting Baluch freedom fighters to keep the Pakistan army committed and unsettled – as revealed by Prime Minister Modi in his 2016 Independence Day address from the Red Fort.


The supreme tragedy is that the strategically handicapped and permanently shortsighted Indian governments, particularly in the new century, have sacrificed the greater strategic good for the trivial satisfaction of discomfiting Pakistan and in the process pushing the latter more seriously into the China orbit.

Why not restart a dialogue on an open-ended basis with Islamabad to:

resolve the Kashmir issue,
open the Indian markets to Pakistani trade, and
have high-level military exchanges and joint war games with the Pakistan military.
Meanwhile, Indian and Pakistani troops on the LoC can continue gunning it out if they must, and ISI and RAW can keep at their covert operations.
I don't disagree with what he says about the China threat, but he is using that as a strawman argument to argue for giving a free run to the Pakis, something that has been done time and again with disastrous results for India. He also does an equal-equal (when none exists) between Paki terrorism and our security actions and is dismissive and derogatory about the immense sacrifices of our armed forces. Nobody with half brain can be this delusional, so he is clearly up to no good.
looks like his source of free single malt has dried out.

he is simply priming the pump.

Such creatures are strategic and defence analysts??

MMS did the most deliberate damage at sharm el sheik. He was an inexperienced and largely unschooled ex babu, with no clue of foreign policy or the cunning pakis.

like arjun, his eyes were "nobly" fixed on the target.

The pakis have nothing less than dismemberment of India in mind, what with junagadh and hyderabad on the top of their list. they are not going to be satisfied with mere tidbits like cashmere any longer. The urge for the caliphate has grown strong.
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Modern Punjabi terroristan,
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-visit-to ... cJZ-sTIXOw

A Visit to Islamic England - WSJ
Wall Street Journal › articles ›
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Haridas wrote:Modern Punjabi terroristan,
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-visit-to ... cJZ-sTIXOw

A Visit to Islamic England - WSJ
Wall Street Journal › articles ›
This link to the article is password protected. Here's the full article:
London

Other tourists may remember London for its spectacular sights and history, but I remember it for Islam. When I was visiting the U.K. as a teenager in 2006, I got lost in an East London market. There I saw a group of women wearing head-to-toe black cloaks. I froze, confused and intimidated by the faceless figures. It was my first encounter with the niqab, which covers everything but a woman’s eyes.

This summer, I found myself heading back to the U.K. as it was plunging into a debate over Islamic dress. Boris Johnson, the country’s former foreign secretary and London’s ex-mayor, wrote a column opposing attempts to ban face-covering veils. Nonetheless, he added, “it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes.” The responses could hardly have been more heated.

I wanted to cut past the polemics and experience London’s Muslim communities for myself. My first visit was to Tower Hamlets, an East London borough that is about 38% Muslim, among the highest in the U.K. As I walked down Whitechapel Road, the adhan, or call to prayer, echoed through the neighborhood. Muslims walked in one direction for jumu’ah, Friday prayer, while non-Muslims went the opposite way. Each group kept its distance and avoided eye contact with the other. A sign was posted on a pole: “Alcohol restricted zone.”

Women and girls were dressed in hijabs, niqabs and abayas (robes). Some of the males wore skullcaps and thawbs, Arabic tunics, with their trousers tailored just above the ankles as per Muhammad’s example. The scene could have been lifted out of Riyadh, a testament to the Arabization of Britain’s South Asian Muslims. At the barbershop, women waited outside under the hot sun while their sons and husbands were groomed.

Inside the East London Mosque, visitors were expected to dress “modestly.” Headscarves were provided at reception for any woman who showed up without one. A kind man on staff showed me around the men’s quarters. He gave me a bag filled with booklets about Islam. In one, Muslims are encouraged to “re-establish the Shari’ah,” or Islamic law. Those who ignore this mandate are “of little worth to any society.”

That night, I visited the Houses of Parliament. Rifle-carrying police officers greeted me when I stepped out of the Tube. The extra security was mobilized in response to last year’s car and stabbing attack in Westminster by Khalid Masood, who killed five people. Outside the station, there are roadblocks along Westminster Bridge and a new security fence in front of the palace yard. I asked an officer about Masood’s attack. “I’d rather not talk about it,” he replied. “I was there that day.”

Forty-eight hours later, I woke up to the news that a car had rammed a Westminster security barrier. Police arrested Salih Khater, a 29-year-old Sudanese refugee who had been given asylum and British citizenship. Three people were injured in the attack. London’s mayor, Sadiq Khan, expressed support for banning vehicles from parts of Parliament Square.

Next I visited Leyton, another district in East London where some Muslim social norms prevail. An Arab cafe near the Tube station was filled with men; no women were inside. An Islamic bookstore sold hijab-wearing dolls for children. The dolls had blank, featureless faces, since human depictions are prohibited in conservative Islam.

I stopped outside the Masjid al-Tawhid, a South Asian Salafi mosque and madrassa (school), just before afternoon prayer time. A group of girls in robes and veils walked around back, toward the dumpsters, where the women’s entrance is located. I later saw the Islamic Shari’a Council of Leyton. This community has religious, educational, business and legal institutions to maintain a separate identity.

All this gave me pause. But I was unprepared for what I would see next in Luton, a small town 30 miles north of London and the birthplace of the English Defense League, which has held unruly anti-Muslim demonstrations. At the Central Mosque, I met a friendly group of Punjabi-speaking young men. “You’ve come to see Luton?” one struggled to ask me in English. The young men asked me to follow them through the town center.

Within minutes, we walked by three other mosques, which were vibrant and filled with young men coming and going. We passed a church, which was closed and decrepit, with a window that had been vandalized with eggs. We squeezed by hundreds of residents busy preparing for the Eid al-Adha holiday. Girls in hijabs gathered around tables to paint henna designs on their hands. All the businesses had a religious flair: The eateries were halal, the fitness center was sex-segregated, and the boutiques displayed “modest” outfits on mannequins. Pakistani flags flew high and proud. I never saw a Union Jack.

The men finally led me to a discreet building that housed a small Islamic center. They spoke privately to its imam. I was led upstairs to see him. The imam asked me if I was prepared to convert. Apparently there had been some miscommunication with the young men. I told the imam I wasn’t ready for that, but I would appreciate any literature I could take home. He led me to a bookshelf and said I could have whatever I wanted. I grabbed the first booklet that was in English. It was by Zakir Naik, a fundamentalist preacher from India. “The Qur’an says that Hijab has been prescribed for the women,” the booklet explained in one section, “so that they are recognised as modest women and this will also prevent them from being molested.”

Other tourists might remember London for Buckingham Palace, Piccadilly Circus and Big Ben. I’ll remember it for its failed multiculturalism. Or perhaps this is what successful multiculturalism looks like.
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I'm the Dimmy's party and the fanatical Tehrik e Nalaayak party - their history of collusion. These chickens sure are coming home to roost fast.

PTI seeks TLP support for President’s election
https://nation.com.pk/25-Aug-2018/pti-s ... s-election

Barelvis may tip the scale in favour of PTI in Murree
https://www.dawn.com/news/1420003

TLP inflicts loss to PML-N in 13 constituencies
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/348044 ... tituencies

Pakistan Elections 2018: Hardline Islamist views on rise; Imran Khan supports blasphemy
https://www.timesnownews.com/internatio ... emy/259059
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How many bailouts do we need? - Dr Noor Fatima

The new government has to decide whether or not it wants to go to the IMF for another bailout package. The finance minister has already indicated that opting for a bailout package isn’t out of the question in view the financial emergency that the country finds itself in.

We must understand what the IMF is meant for. It isn’t merely an institution of last resort to administer short-term loans and bailout packages. It has a far greater role to play in helping open up the economy for world trade. This runs the risk of fluctuations as it leads to the absence of a local model of development, fewer chances for the local industry to grow to reduce imports, the sale of state-owned entities to the private sector, and the growing focus on attracting foreign investment.

The purpose of the IMF is to deal with the deficits in the balance of payments by offering financial support. Of course, it doesn’t do this without securing guarantees from borrowing governments. In return, these governments have to stabilise macroeconomic indicators, particularly with regard to narrowing down the trade and current account deficits, and ensuring exchange rate stability. However, a detailed account of the assistance provided by the IMF across the world during over the last two decades suggests that financial crises have increased in various countries, whether they are in Latin America, South Asia, Africa or Europe

Though we cannot say that the IMF has entirely failed to benefit the borrowing countries, the benefits are short-lived and cannot sustain the pressures of pulling the economy out of a crisis through macroeconomic stabilisation efforts.

What we often forget when we approach the IMF is that the institution doesn’t build long-term growth through infrastructure and the distribution of means of production resources. It simply provides oxygen to a dying economy. In theory, the IMF makes short-term loans in exchange for policy reforms in recipient countries to move their economies towards the free market. This hasn’t helped us and Pakistan has instead become more addicted to loans.

Political economists have long been critical of IMF bailout packages as they don’t appear to help countries in achieving self-sustaining growth through free-market reforms. Economic pundits aren’t the ones who have to suffer because of the loans. The poor, who cannot afford the stringent conditionalities of the IMF’s intervention, often have to bear the brunt of these loans. Paradoxically, rich counties often give funds to the IMF to help poor countries. But this is making developing countries even poorer.

The policies that are included in IMF bailout programmes could have been undertaken without going to the IMF if we truly want to initiate macro-economic reforms. IMF loans have an immediate negative effect in terms of moral hazards. Investors believe that if anything goes wrong, they will be rescued by the IMF. But that is not the case.

Bailouts ultimately become burdens because they aren’t being managed properly by our governments. Money goes to the same institutions that have created these crises. The government becomes reluctant to initiate reforms. This is especially true for the current coalition government, which will pose a challenge to reaching a consensus on these matters.

As a result, the poor will suffer prolonged economic agony due the Fund’s bailouts. It is difficult to accept the justification that these conditionalities will urge us to initiate more reforms. Previous records Pakistan’s dependency of the IMF shows that conditionalities haven’t turned out to be favourable for the country. Instead, Pakistan has lost its credibility in international regimes. So, cutting off loans enables the government to adopt a more serious approach to introducing reforms.

The reform period is also prolonged when we restart process of obtaining financial assistance again from the IMF. We must understand that the Fund will never discourage loans to borrowing country as this gives more leverage to the IMF to impose pressure on borrowers, not only for current loans but also on previous loans. This favours the IMF’s bureaucracy as a large part of the loan goes back to the IMF through technical assistance, experts, and facilitation, which makes the Fund’s conditionality much less credible.

Ironically, whenever policy reforms are forthcoming and high on the political agenda of the government, the Fund resumes its lending. This is beneficial for the IMF.

At this stage, we still need external funds. The finance minister has the choice to either go to the IMF or seek fresh loans from Chi­na.

We need to consider the fact that China, under the One Belt One Road (OBOR) project, has given loans for infrastructural projects, which are ultimately spent on Chinese products. This is a stronger reason for the balance of payment deficit. Moreover, China is lending to Pakistan in US dollars. Since Pakistan is not able to diversify its exports, the exchange reserve of the loans is also not benefiting. Washington is already apprehensive that the rationality OBOR projects are risky due to political rather economic decision-making.

The Chinese option can only work if lending from China is consistent with Pakistan’s economic sustainability in the future. If not, such loans can create the risk of sovereign debt, particularly in terms of borrowed infrastructural projects. The example of Sri Lanka shows that Beijing took control of the Hambantota Port as the Sri Lankan government was unable to pay debt. Interest rates are quite important in this connection.

However, US pressure on the IMF and Pakistan for not negotiating a bailout package doesn’t make any sense; it merely serves America’s interests. The bottom line is that Pakistan has been engaged with the IMF’s loan programmes since the 1980s. There have been 14 IMF financing programmes since then. This time, it would seek more than $12 billion. We can once again opt for a bailout package with the result of more impending crises. Therefore, the inexplicable evil design of a lending agency, be it China or the IMF, aren’t the root of our problems. In fact, it is due to our own government’s failure to learn that we are facing crises involving poor policymaking, and corruption among policymakers and institutions.

If these elements persist in the new government, then any bailout package won’t create any significant change. China has already pumped $1 billion and around $4 billion is expected from Saudi Arabia. In the next three months, the Asian Development Bank will also lend $2 billion on a monthly basis, which will add between $7 billion and $8 billion to our foreign reserves.

PM Khan’s government has to make decisions in light of these issues. The new government has to take immediate steps to deal with the critical issue of an import-led growth strategy for CPEC’s infrastructural projects, which are the main cause of balance of payment crises. It must be established that an export-led growth strategy is different in large countries than it is in smaller countries.

Our 70-year history exhibits that borrowing from abroad, including China and the IMF, has already failed. Another bailout package will lead the Imran Khan-led government to repeat the mistakes made by successive governments. The bailout programme has been an avenue for the IMF to ensure that countries like Pakistan are always riddled with debt.

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Farewell State update: Pious days are here again.

Punjab information minister bans 'vulgar' film posters, derides entertainment industry
Punjab Information Minister Fayyazul Hassan Chohan on Thursday ordered a province-wide ban on "vulgar" and "indecent" film posters displayed inside and outside cinema houses.
"if any vulgar poster goes up in or outside a cinema house in Punjab, there will first be a fine and if they continue the practice, the cinema would be shut down."
"Yani yeh wakhri jawani hai jo cinema houses pay ai hui hai, (this is a strange youthfulness that's taken over cinema houses),"
"Is this civilised? that you print out pictures of half naked women and put up huge posters of them?"
"People watch p0rn for that [kind of entertainment]," he added.
Singling out famous stage actor Nargis to make his point, he said that he would have made her a haji (someone who has completed the religious pilgrimage) if it was in his power. "You would have seen her fast 300 days instead of [the] 30 [days of obligatory Ramazan fasts]," he added.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1429905/punja ... t-industry
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USA Will Help Pakistan Escape The China "Debt Trap" If Asked !

Trump admin wants to give PM Khan space to explore improving ties with India: Pentagon
WASHINGTON – The Trump administration wants to give new Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan space to explore opportunities to improve relations with India, a senior Pentagon official has said
Many new governments come to power in Islamabad and want to improve the relationship with India, but then soon face realities and all the difficulties, Randall G Schriver, US Assistant Secretary of Defence for Asian and Pacific Security Affairs said at an event organised by Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.
, Talking in circles . Is he referring to the perennial Fauji problem :roll:
“We want to give the new prime minister of the new government of Pakistan space to explore where there may be opportunities to improve relations with India,” he said.He was responding to a question from moderator Ashley Tellis from Carnegie on the triangular relationship between India, the US and Pakistan.
Tellis is a jew. Tellis is an Agent of India :mrgreen:
“But in terms of separating what was said during the campaign and what he said since the election, we want to give him space to find the opportunities to improve things with India,” Schriver said.
Responding to a question on giving space to Khan, he explained that this is in the context of India-Pakistan relationship and this does not indicate any change in the policy of the Trump administration with regard to Pakistan. The Pentagon official insisted that this means no change in its policy towards Islamabad and its current approach of cutting financial assistance would continue.
So, it is now up to Imran and Qureshi to convince Pompeo to loosen the dollar strings !
“What I said about giving him space was really in the context of the India-Pakistan relationship. We’d certainly like to give him space to make the right decisions on a variety of things,” he said.
“But our approach of cutting assistance and pressuring Pakistan on their relationship with the Taliban, persuading them to come to the table, dealing with terrorist networks, that’ll be sustained. When I say give space, it’s not changing our approach or our policy. It is the context of developing opportunities between India and Pakistan,” Schriver said. The Pentagon also cautioned Pakistan on seeking massive financial assistance from China, which risks its sovereignty.
“If you look at other examples where countries went all in, or largely in with China, the results have not been particularly good. There has been an erosion of sovereignty and an erosion of control. There are many examples of that,” he said.
“So, if our friends in Pakistan want to talk about a way out of that or want to talk about strengthening their economy and deal with that, I’m sure we’d be open to that and trying to work with Pakistan, work either bilaterally or through international institutions to try to get them on a better path,” Schriver said.
So, in spite of "getting old", Pakistan is still "attractive" to Massa . Must be the "old whore's strategic location" IMO :mrgreen:
The US, he said, is not interested in a failed Pakistan by any stretch of the imagination. “We want them to be successful. We want them to have sovereign control and not cede that to any outside party, including China. And the economic piece is probably going to be key to that,” he said.
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CJP Nisar Butts His Nose Into The Pakpattan Problem :mrgreen:

CJP Nisar takes suo moto notice of DPO Pakpattan transfer issue
Aug 30, 2018
ISLAMABAD – The Chief Justice of Pakistan on Thursday took suo motu notice of the transfer of DPO Pakpattan after reportedly on the orders of the former husband of Prime Minister Imran Khan’s wife, Khawar Maneka. A three-member bench of the apex court headed by CJP Mian Saqib Nisar will hear the case on tomorrow (Friday).
The SC has summoned Pakpattan DPO Rizwan Umar Gondal, Inspector General Punjab Police Kaleem Imam, and the Regional Police Officer in a personal capacity.
Here, he is playing with fire IMHO :mrgreen:
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THREE REPORTS THAT CONFIRM THAT PAKISTAN IS IN INTENSIVE CARE UNIT (ICU) !

Govt Assures The Bhooka Nanga Awaam That It Will NOT Stop Selling Essential Goods To Them At Subsidized Rates :mrgreen:

Is federal government shutting down Utility Stores Corporation?
ISLAMABAD – The Utility Stores Corporation of Pakistan (USC) has rejected the media rumours.
Earlier a news was published in media, which claimed that the government was intending to close down the Utility Stores .
These kinds of operations are unlikely to continue, when the IMF will prescribe the bitter medicine of "no subsidies to state enterprises" !

PIA on the verge of financial collapse: Report
Aug 18, 2018

The disgraced Paki Airline is on govt life support . And the Govt itself is looking for funds to bail itself out. Govt is throwing good money in the bottom less pit . Customer Service has gone to the dogs . And employees are using the airline to smuggle contraband items into the country and make some extra money on the side. This is unlikely to continue long . IMF may demand that the airline be sold to private interest !

Pakistan borrowed $10.7 billion in FY 2017-18, breakdown country wise
Aug 30, 2018
Pakistan is facing a trade gap or deficit of $18 billion a year because its imports are much higher than its exports. This is not sustainable because its current dollar reserves ($10.2 billion) are not enough to pay for essential imports that are necessary to support economic activity.
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US releases transcript of PM Imran Khan and Mike Pompeo telephone call, it's embarrassing
Aug 29, 2018
Is there a way to get this transcript?
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Threat Of Violence Works ! Holland Succumbs To Malsic Pressure ! PBUH Cartoon Contest Cancelled ! Pakis Claim Credit !

Dutch lawmaker cancels sacrilegious caricatures contest after massive protest in Pakistan
Aug 30, 2018
THE HAGUE – Dutch anti-Islam lawmaker Geert Wilders says he has cancelled a planned Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) sacrilegious cartoon contest following death threats and concerns other people could be put at risk.In a written statement issued Thursday night, Wilders said: “to avoid the risk of victims of Islamic violence, I have decided not to let the sacrilegious cartoon contest go ahead.”
The "Religion of Peace" has "won"!
Wilders, who has for years lived under round-the-clock protection because of death threats sparked by his fierce anti-Islam rhetoric, said he does not want others endangered by the contest he planned for November. {Falijee, If there is a line or two of comment, it can be in blue} The contest was to have the at the tightly guarded offices of his Party for Freedom in the Dutch parliament building.A Dutch judge is extending by two weeks the detention of a 26-year-old man who allegedly threatened to attack the organizer of a Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) blasphemous cartoon contest
. No "prizes" for guessing the nationality of the man :mrgreen:
The man, reportedly a Pakistani citizen, was arrested Tuesday in The Hague on suspicion of terror offences after he allegedly posted the threat, in Urdu, on Facebook a day earlier. Prosecutors say he was not armed.
He should not be let off lightly !
The upcoming contest was being organized by anti-Islam lawmaker Geert Wilders. It has sparked protests in Pakistan. Physical depictions of the Prophet (PBUH) are forbidden in Islam and deeply offensive to Muslims.
Pakis proving once again, that they are the Muscle of Malsi. :twisted: ( Never mind that the Arabs still consider them miskeens !)
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USA Refuses To Humiliate Pakistan Any Further With Reference To the Imran- Pompeo Phone Call :mrgreen:

US gives Pakistan Imran-Pompeo phone call recording
The News International
Aug 30, 2018
ISLAMABAD/WASHINGTON: Pakistan on Thursday categorically said it wanted an end to the controversy over a telephone call between Prime Minister Imran Khan and the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. “We would want this episode to end. The foreign minister has already commented in detail. Politically, we need to move on,” Foreign Office Spokesman Dr Muhammad Faisal said in the weekly media briefing.
Imran's damaged Echendee :roll:
Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has told the US that longstanding relations with the US were important to Pakistan and that he looked forward to welcoming Secretary Pompeo in Islamabad.He told Ambassador Hale that his interactions with the US leadership would be based on honesty and sincerity, :roll: ( implying that in the past, this was not so !!) so as to develop a sustained partnership in the interest of both the countries.
Meanwhile, Secretary of Defense James Mattis has confirmed that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Dunford will fly to Islamabad to meet the new government officials.
Explaining the possible talking points of the meeting with Prime Minister Imran Khan, and other officials, the secretary said, "To make it very clear what we have to do, all of our nations, in meeting our common foe, the terrorists, and make that a primary part of the discussions."
Pakistan is the problem, not the solution .
The secretary was joined by Chairman Dunford during the briefing, who said the US was going to maintain a presence to have influence in the region. "We have permanent interests in South Asia, diplomatic interests and security interests," he said, adding that "the diplomatic presence, the security presence, and the form of that presence is going to change over time."
Bending over backwards to appease Pakistan !
Giving out an example, he said a few years ago, "we had over a hundred thousand US forces in Afghanistan and today we have about 14,000. So there will be a permanent diplomatic mission in Afghanistan. There'll be permanent diplomatic presence across South Asia, but I certainly don’t expect that the current forces that we have in Afghanistan represent an enduring large military commitment," Gen Dunford said.
Paki help still needed !
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China To Provide "Diplomatic Solace" To Pakiland In Case Pompeo Goes Ballastic On Sept 5, 2018 :mrgreen:

China Russia come out as a "protective shield" for Pakistan against US diplomatic pressure: Sources
Aug 31, 2018
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s visit in Islamabad on September 5 along with Military Chief over terrorism issue may spark further frictions between the long time allies on war against terror.
However a day after the secretary of state’s visit, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi will visit Islamabad on September 7.
Talking to a private media outlet link, senior officials at the foreign ministry said that China was a ‘great cover’ for Pakistan amid tensions with the US and Islamabad considered Beijing a ‘protective shield.’One official added that China and Pakistan did not have negative baggage and China has helped Pakistan out on different occasions.
Another official said Pakistan was willing to be flexible but will not be ready to compromise on the national interest.
So, Pakistan is still available for "sale" to the highest bidder :mrgreen:
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34 accused include ex-armymen, Senate told
The government on Wednesday informed the Senate that an enquiry of the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) has found over a dozen retired senior military officials among the 34 facing charges of corruption in the project of New Islamabad International Airport.
According to the FIA enquiry, total 13 retired officers of Pakistan Army and Pakistan Air Force (PAF) have been allegedly found involved in the corruption scandal including one each retired lieutenant general and air marshal, two retired major generals, six retired air vice-marshals, two retired brigadiers and one retired air commodore.
Brig (Retd) Iftikhar Ali, Brig (Retd) Bilal Hameed, M Musharraf Khan and Vikram S Sodha; Asif Basheer Ahmad and M Roohullah, ex-director planning and development Civil Aviation Authority (CAA); and Yousaf Kamal, former director works and development CAA.
The 24 secondary accused include retired military officials; ex-chairman Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) Board Lt General (Retd) Tariq Waseem, former members of the CAA Board Major General (Retd) Mir Haider Ali Khan, Major General (Retd) Ashraf Chaudhry, Air Marshal (Retd) Rashid Kaleem and AVM (Retd) Shahid Latif; ex -directors general CAA AVM (retd) Khalid Ch and Air Commodore (Retd) Junaid Ameen; ex-deputy DGs of CAA AVM (retd) Ritz ul Haq, and AVM (Retd) Salid Habib; and ex-Deputy DOs CAA AVM (Retd) Junaid Ahmad Siddiqui and AVM (retd) M Safdar Khan.
The Interior Ministry informed the Senate that these accused were found by the enquiry responsible for the delay in completion and cost overrun of the project.
faulty land procurement, low standard services by consultants and arbitrary increase in capacity of passenger terminal building.
https://nation.com.pk/30-Aug-2018/34-ac ... enate-told
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Madame Jalebi Being Tasked With Resolution Of Core Issue By Imran Khan !

Imran Khan led Pakistan government forming a new conflict resolution model for Kashmir
The Kashmir Press
Aug 27, 2018
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Srinagar: The Imran Khan led government in Pakistan is forming a new conflict resolution model to address the Kashmir dispute.In an interview with Wajahat Khan for his show, “Mahaaz,” in Duniya news, senior Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf leader and Human Rights minister, Shireen Mazari said that the draft of the conflict resolution model was expected to be made public by next week.
“The Conflict resolution model is ready. It is almost done and we are going to present it by next week,” Mazari said when asked how the PTI led government looks forward to resolve Kashmir issue. When told whether this model will involve the back channel negotiations, she categorically replied, “no”.
“It is a concrete step-by-step proposal which will involve involve steps to be taken to resolve the Kashmir dispute,” Mazari said.“It is not a Musharraf plan, but a PTI plan”. Asked if the Pakistan army was also on board to draft this conflict resolution, she laughed and said it will be a “concrete, final proposal”.
Earlier, the Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan has said that his government wants dialogue with India and wants to resolve all issues including Kashmir besides starting trade between two countries so to alleviate poverty in South Asia.
He has also said that if India takes one step towards dialogue, Pakistan will take two.Mazari also said comprehensive dialogue should be renewed for which dialogue mechanism already existed.
So, Jalebi is poking her nose in the Core Issue as well :mrgreen:
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Falijee wrote:USA Refuses To Humiliate Pakistan Any Further With Reference To the Imran- Pompeo Phone Call
Meanwhile, Secretary of Defense James Mattis has confirmed that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joseph Dunford will fly to Islamabad to meet the new government officials.
So, that is the '2 + 2' dialogue there !
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