Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Sachin » 26 Nov 2018 16:18

Multiple news media outlets have reported that GoKL itself now plans to file a "statement" to Supreme Court highlighting the difficulties faced when trying to implement the verdict. This is said to be a "review petition" in another name. Sensible people now compare this as a case of "a problem which can be fixed by a needle, is now made big enough for a shovel to make the fix".

All links are now in Malayalam; would put up a link in English as soon as I find it.
Sabarimala women entry: State govt to move SC.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Dileep » 26 Nov 2018 17:30

Karthik S wrote:If that's so, why is he keeping quiet at all the people (from PV to feminists) trying to desecrate his abode and harass and humiliate his worshipers ?


He is driving his people. That is why you saw lakhs of people on the street, and hundreds guarding the place day and night. PV is being given a long rope to hang himself.

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Postby SaiK » 26 Nov 2018 21:11

The Legal Cell of @BJP4Keralam has constituted Legal teams to assist the Ayyappa Devotees harassed by Kerala Police with fake cases or for doing Namajapa.

@vijayanpinarayi is abusing the law to hurt us and we will now use the same law to fightback.

Let Justice be done. https://t.co/f9nvGR81Ea

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Sachin » 26 Nov 2018 21:42

Karthik S wrote:If that's so, why is he keeping quiet at all the people (from PV to feminists) trying to desecrate his abode and harass and humiliate his worshipers ?

I am sorry, I did not get you. So what was your expectations on Lord Ayyappa? I mean did you expect him to arrive at the scene, riding on tigers and finish of all the commies? Every Ayyappa devotee is Lord Ayyappa himself, and that is all what Thatwam asi ("Thou art that" - or you are the God, who you are seeking for) etc. is about. Every pilgrim protesting today, is protesting for himself in a way.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby UlanBatori » 26 Nov 2018 22:37

The police are a really frusturated lot; no sympathy from public (and at times from their own families), stressed out due to the actions at Sabari Mala, and very adverse remarks coming against superior officers as well. The communist politicians (and GoKL) have now clearly dumped the problem onto the collective heads of Travancore Devaswom Board and Kerala Police.

This is where some Enlightened Forward Thinking is required. Start a campaign
Arrest Lavalin Criminals

U may be surprised at witnesses and evidence surfacing...

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/s ... spar-85627
SNC Lavalin case: Kerala CM should face trial, CBI tells SC, Cong and CPI(M) spar
The case will now come up for hearing on August 17.
IANS Monday, July 30, 2018 - 07:27

What's the hangup? Why haven't they been hanged yet?
A day after the CBI stand in the Supreme Court that Kerala Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan should face trial in the SNC Lavlin case, his party (CPI-M) on Sunday maintained he was innocent while he himself remained tightlipped.
An agreement was inked with Canadian firm SNC Lavalin in 1997, when Vijayan was the Kerala Power Minister, for the renovation and modernisation of Pallivasai, Sengulam and Panniar hydroelectric projects in Idukki district, which allegedly caused a loss of Rs 266 crore to the exchequer.
The CBI on Saturday filed an affidavit and questioned the discharge of Vijayan and two others, saying the High Court orders in this regard was "not correct". The CBI had moved the apex court to challenge the High Court's August 23, 2017, order discharging Vijayan, K. Mohanachandran, former Principal Secretary in Department of Power, and A. Francis, then department Joint Secretary. The High Court had given the go-ahead for the trial of the remaining three accused, who are Kerala State Electricity Board officials. State Congress President MM Hassan told the media on Sunday that in 2006, the then Chief Minister Oommen Chandy had referred the case to the CBI, describing it as "one of the biggest corruption scams." "With Saturday's development, it has now turned true what the Congress and the United Democratic Front leaders had always said -- it is a corrupt deal and is one of the biggest setbacks for Vijayan. When Vijayan was discharged by the High Court, there was a huge celebration. But now, things will change for him," said Hassan.
Leader of Opposition in the Kerala Assembly and Congress leader Ramesh Chennithala said that what happened in the Supreme Court is a legal matter and it's amusing to say that the Congress has any role in the development.
The case will now come up for hearing on August 17.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby ramana » 27 Nov 2018 01:25

Karthik S, If you believe there is God in even stone pillars.
That is the essence of Narasimha avatar.
If you don't then its Hiranakashyapa mind.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby UlanBatori » 27 Nov 2018 02:58

^
Beat me 2 it. Of course I am too nice to suggest that.

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Postby UlanBatori » 27 Nov 2018 03:01

I still think it is a wonderful idea to stand in front of YC & his merry cohort with a large banner saying

Swami Saranam
Do Your Dharmam: Arrest Lavalin Crooks!!


Are they going to arrest for that? Which part of the message? How r they going to keep from :mrgreen: ?

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Postby UlanBatori » 27 Nov 2018 09:28

Maybe to give him an arrest warrant for his PIN**** boss? :mrgreen:

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Sachin » 27 Nov 2018 12:30

Sabari Mala updates 27/11/2018 1230Hrs

This may be the first time in the history of Kerala Police that an officer has to openly declare his faith in a Hindu God. This shows the very sad state of affairs in K.P and the situation created by GoKL. I'm a devotee of Ayyappa: Yathish Chandra.

Sabarimala witnesses heavy rush on Monday. I can already see GoKL and the Travancore Devaswom Board drooling over their mouths, because they expect an increase in the revenue :evil:. Hope the increased foot fall do not make a major rise in the revenue.

Sabarimala: Prohibitory orders extended till Nov 30.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Karthik S » 27 Nov 2018 12:38

Sachin wrote:
Karthik S wrote:If that's so, why is he keeping quiet at all the people (from PV to feminists) trying to desecrate his abode and harass and humiliate his worshipers ?

I am sorry, I did not get you. So what was your expectations on Lord Ayyappa? I mean did you expect him to arrive at the scene, riding on tigers and finish of all the commies? Every Ayyappa devotee is Lord Ayyappa himself, and that is all what Thatwam asi ("Thou art that" - or you are the God, who you are seeking for) etc. is about. Every pilgrim protesting today, is protesting for himself in a way.


ramana wrote:Karthik S, If you believe there is God in even stone pillars.
That is the essence of Narasimha avatar.
If you don't then its Hiranakashyapa mind.


Sir, my view is that, in that case the same Narasimha avatar saw 8 crore hindus slaughters in the past 1000 years, there would have been so many prahladas in those 8 crores. My point is, I see people even in twitter saying Sastha will teach them lesson etc. I don't expect any divine intervention like Dileep sir mentioned in his experiences. No god will down and there won't be any divine punishments as Sachin sir mentioned. It's all on us and our ability and willingness to fight.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Sachin » 27 Nov 2018 20:51

Sabari Mala updates 27/11/2018 at 2030Hrs
Prohibitory order to continue at Sabarimala: HC. The most crucial part in this report is "AG also submitted a plan on arranging security for secure darshan if at all any young woman arrives at the temple. Court accepted the documents in cover stating that it trusts police to handle the situations appropriately". Which means that the police and GoKL may be keen on getting some young woman up the hill. The court had also come down heavily on GoKL and K.P for taking a stance that chanting Ayyappa mantras were considered as sloganeering.

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Postby Dileep » 27 Nov 2018 22:45

The "Nude model CUM Activitist" who was 'escorted' by the police to sannidhanam is arrested on the 'hurt religious sentiment' case. The same police who dump imaginary charges on the BJP leaders were trying to save her very valuable posterior, but a writ was filed against the unexplainable delay. So, the police had to get off their not so valuable posterior and get hers to police custody.


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Postby ramana » 27 Nov 2018 23:05

Dileep, So the very courts are being used to turn the tide.
Also note who filed the petition that led to the High Court decision.

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Postby Prem » 28 Nov 2018 01:30

https://twitter.com/nandaji1958/status/ ... 6091590656
SP Yathish Chandra, shunted out from #Sabarimala duty. Last week he chased, beat, blows and terrorised Lord Ayyappa devotees. He altercation with Union minister Shri Pon Radhakrishnan.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Javee » 28 Nov 2018 08:38

^^Look at the news article posted by Sachin, he was not shunted out, he has completed his rotation period. Not sure how people will respond to him when he goes back to his post as Ernakulam CoP. He made un necessary remarks and hogged the limelight.

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Postby Sachin » 28 Nov 2018 11:21

Sabari Mala news round up 28/11/2018 1115Hrs.
Low turnout in Sabarimala: TDB mulls other actions to attract more devotees. Greedy GoKL and Travancore Devaswom Board now even planning to canvass for pilgrims to come to Sabari Mala. This shows the total dependency of GoKL in this pilgrimage, because of financial reasons. The TDB accepted that even though there was an increase in pilgrim foot fall, it is not yeilding revenue :evil:. And they also whine that there is a campaign in southern states against donating money to the temple :evil: :lol:. So Ayyappa Seva Sanghams across India, seems to have done a good job, but looks like the work must go on.

Four-member BJP delegation to visit Sabarimala. BJP general secretary Saroj Pandey, national president of the party's SC morcha Vinod Sonkar, MPs Pralhad Joshi and Nalin Kumar Kateel are the members.

Assembly session adjourned after protest. And not to be outwitted by the BJP, the Congress MLAs at the state assembly also raise concerns on the way GoKL is handling Sabari Mala pilgrimage.

And while it is all politics above; two individuals have been having some unpleasent experiences ;).
Rehana Fathima finds herself in prison*. The police also plans to get her in custody to know more about her associates and organisations which gave her the idea of making a trip to the hill temple.

Yathish Chandra IPS once again visits the hill temple, before stepping down*. The incident of him asking a judge to get down from his vehicle and also getting the vehicle checked is true. And he had to apologize to the judge later in the evening. This incident was mentioned by the Kerala High Court during yesterday's hearing*. The judge and HC did not proceed further as they did not wish to see the career of a young IPS officer destroyed. Now what minister Pon Radhakrishnan plans to do is unclear. Yathish Chandra would now go back as Com.Pol Thrissur city.

* All links lead to Malayalam news portals.

Dileep wrote:The same police who dump imaginary charges on the BJP leaders were trying to save her very valuable posterior, but a writ was filed against the unexplainable delay. So, the police had to get off their not so valuable posterior and get hers to police custody.

The number of petitions & writs coming before Kerala HC has really increased. I think main stream media is deliberately hiding information of such petitions & writs. There was even a petition filed by some one from Tamil Nadu which was heard yesterday. The BJP's legal cell also seems to be becoming active. Rehana Fatima was arrested mainly because of a police complaint made by a local BJP leader.

Javee wrote:Not sure how people will respond to him when he goes back to his post as Ernakulam CoP. He made un necessary remarks and hogged the limelight.

He would not be going as a very happy man, for sure. The fact that he nearly lost his job (or at least a few increments) is now pretty much out in the open. But don't know if Pon Radhakrishnan plans to use his priveleges as a minister and Lok Sabha MP.

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Postby Javee » 28 Nov 2018 12:40

I dont think Pon.Radha has that much pull with in the govt or party. If it was some one else, they wouldve made sure Yathish will be serving in some CRPF battalion near Dantewada.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Sachin » 28 Nov 2018 22:13

Piravam church case: HC rebukes government. The case here is that a famous church (along with many others) having history of centuries have to be handed over to Orthodox sect of X'ians by its current custodians- the Jacobites. This is based on a Supreme court verdict. When asked about this case GoKL weasled out by saying that this was a civil dispute for which GoKL or K.P were not even respondents. But that has now changed as the Orthodox priests have approached the police with a formal request to help them get the court verdict "executed" on the ground. The police is bound to provide all help. The Orthodox group made another attempt to enter the church last week, and the K.P Dy.SP clearly telling the Bishop that "there are lots of devotees in the church now, and that we need to respect their belief & faith" is now doing its rounds on social media. The logical question then is; is that not applicable for a Hindu temple as well?

Sabarimala: CPI state council slams CM. Now Daniel Raja's national party is a "cadreless wonder" in rest of India, but in Kerala there is a minor fan following. And now they too have said that the big brother CPI(M) and the Chief Minister did not handle the Sabari Mala issue with due care.

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Postby UlanBatori » 29 Nov 2018 08:15

So much for Hyoomaneaterian Rites Panel

The State Human Rights Commission (SHRC) has maintained that all people were bound to comply with the verdict of the Supreme Court of India and that no one was above the law of the land.
SHRC member P. Mohandas was talking to reporters at Sabarimala on Tuesday evening.
He said the commission could not find any serious rights violation at Sabarimala.
SHRC chairman Antony Dominic and members, K. Mohankumar and P. Mohandas, visited Sabarimala, Pampa and Nilackal on Tuesday to take stock of the situation there. Mr. Mohandas said the commission had received 12 petitions relating to Sabarimala and would seriously inquire into each of them.
The commission has collected statements from pilgrims, the police officials and other staff on duty at Sabarimala, Pampa and Nilackal, the KSRTC officials at Nilackal and at Pampa on the basis of the petitions received from different quarters.
Mr. Dominic said the commission had sought reports from the KSRTC managing director, Commissioner of the Travancore Devaswom Board, and the Sabarimala Executive Officer on the basis of the petitions.
The commission also found that the KSRTC was yet to provide canteen facility and a dress changing room for its employees at Nilackal.
Mr. Mohankumar said the authorities should take immediate steps to address the unhygienic condition in the areas around the Maramath Complex at Pampa. He further sought a report on the same from the District Medical Officer and the Devaswom secretary.
In its interim report, the SHRC stated that the foothills of Pampa lacked basic facilities.

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Postby UlanBatori » 29 Nov 2018 18:11

Kerala Sarkar threatens Hindu Pensioners.

IANS
Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 17:12

"There is some game plan to finish Sabarimala as there are around 13,000 Hindus who are employees and pensioners of the TDB and there are 1,248 temples of the TDB.
"Those who are against us think that they can finish us off by asking pilgrims not to contribute, but this is not going to happen," added Padmakumar.
The TDB is already feeling the heat as there has been a drop of Rs 25 crore in offerings collected during the 11-day period starting November 16, when it opened for the present two month long festival season, as compared to the last season.


Padmakumar, who is also a former CPI-M legislator, {Q.E.D}

According to the official TDB figures, in the first 11 days there has been a total collection of Rs 16.23 crore compared to the same time period in 2017 when it was Rs 41.70 crore.
The drop includes Rs 11 crore in the sales of ravana (made from jaggery) Rs 6.85 crore in offerings and Rs 2.45 crore in sales of appom (a variety of cake). :roll:
However, state BJP president P.Sreedharan Pillai told the media on Thursday that it's the Pinarayi Vijayan government which is out to destroy the Sabarimala temple. "From December 5 to 10, we are going to organise a statewide protest against the way the Left government here has handled the temple issue with absolute callousness," said Pillai.


Blatant threat against pensioners. Should be exposed and the Commie **** of the TDB flushed down into the Pakistan Ocean.

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Postby SaiK » 29 Nov 2018 18:58

Sabarimala row hits temple coffers, may pinch Kerala economy
Sabarimala temple, which sees nearly 5 cr pilgrims during the 41-day season, alone usually garners over Rs 300 cr

https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... 4877/lite/


All these money.. and the commies can't provide advanced facilities for bhaktas. Imagine a CM like YAN would accomplish?

Validate now how these funds were being miused for churches and mosques on the highways over so kany years now. We can always disprove a truth as false. Proving this is a big task.

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Postby SaiK » 29 Nov 2018 19:06

Shocking
6 Employees of the Devaswom Board caught on cam stealing Rs. 16 Lacks worth Cash and Gold donated by devotees at #Sabarimala

Marxist Party controls the Board which administers #SabarimalaTemple and the party has ensured that its cadre occupy almost all positions in it https://t.co/w6SRo2KrrN

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Postby Prasad » 30 Nov 2018 00:59

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: aravana payasam became ravana payasam. Perfect typo.

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Postby ramana » 30 Nov 2018 02:21

Pinnaryi Vijayan was saying he wont let #Sabarimala become like Ayodhya temple.

In return i tweeted he is #KeralaBabur out to desecrate #Sabarimala

So Ram is coming!!!

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Postby Dileep » 30 Nov 2018 06:05

In the flood news, IAF Sent a bill for 25Cr for the rescue operation to KL and everyone complains.

People make bruhaha, not realizing that even govt entities need to keep their books, and money should be accounted from some account. IAF have no provision to pay from their account.
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Postby krisna » 30 Nov 2018 06:08

Interesting about pinarayi kerala commie talking about sabarimala becoming Ayodhya. Likely commies want a showdown. recall Mulayam and laloo shot to stardom with minorities with actions on Ram Sevaks in Ayodhya agitation in 1990s etc. They also ruled for a decade or more.

Commies thought with Sc order and they being in power would be the harbinger of great social reforms amongst Hindus just like "white mans burden", but Hindus did the opposite. :rotfl:
with severe backlash :(( :(( and not much room to wiggle in their DNA, they might be out to cannabalise minorities vote who constitute nearly 45% of votes in kerala from congress strangehold.

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Post Ayodhya agitation congress has not come back to power in Northern India barring Rajasthan/Haryana/Punjab. It is more or less finished .

wonder what is in store for congress and commies when they poach each other minority votes.
of course saving grace is the healthy %of minorities who will anyday favor sickular parties in kerala.

(All the above will occur if Hindus truly desert commies in healthy numbers)

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Postby Dileep » 30 Nov 2018 07:59

BJP netas are trying very hard to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with all the infighting, moronisms and cluelessness. Unfortunate onlee.

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Postby vinod » 30 Nov 2018 21:18

The current crop of kerala BJP leaders are at best average with frequent shooting in the foot activities!

I'm hoping this sabarimala agitation would throw up new leaders who would rise to prominence in the years to come. Till then, we will have to suffer these incompetents.

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Postby ramana » 01 Dec 2018 01:33

When Softie fired on Karsevaks the govt was Congress.
#KeralaBabur knows what will happen if he does same on #Sabarimala devotees.


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Postby Sachin » 01 Dec 2018 14:57

01/12/2018 1450Hrs IST

A minor skirmish at Sabari Mala. 2 Andhra women trek Sabarimala; Retreat amid protest. K.P is baffled as to how these two women managed to byepass their own security check points at Pampa river point etc. The women had tried to use the "Dolly" (a kind of palanquin) service to go up the hill, covering their faces. The women identified as Kripavathi and Vinodhini thus seems to know the traditions & belief system at the temple; but yet tried to sneak in. The K.P is now arranging the "beating retreat" ceremony for these two women, and they are being brought down. But if I were K.P, I would have contacted my pals in A.P Police to get the history of these two women. Earlier too there were instances of women (mainly from A.P) trying to enter the temple; but they arrived without knowing the unique customs of the temple. When they knew about that, they did not insist on going forward. Yesterday too another woman landed up, her request was only to take her to the flat area below the holy 18 steps. Even then the police advised her not to make an attempt right now.

Dileep wrote:BJP netas are trying very hard to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with all the infighting, moronisms and cluelessness. Unfortunate onlee.

vinod wrote:The current crop of kerala BJP leaders are at best average with frequent shooting in the foot activities!

To be honest, I feel that in Sabari Mala agitation it was the RSS which was actually directing the "war". It was their cadre which was active all around, and only because of them the commies lost the game. The BJP leaders (!?) of Kerala, by their own have no crowd-pulling or commanding power. Surendran (now in prison) seems to be a leader with some potential, and commies seems to have realised that first ;). Thus the high focus on putting him inside. The other leaders are just chatter boxes, and given a free hand they would make many people ignore their "love" for Sabari Mala temple.

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Postby Yagnasri » 01 Dec 2018 15:10

Almost everyone in AP knows the customs of Shabarimali in AP. The earlier women were EJs doing drama. If proper enquirers are made I am almost certain the present set of women will also be found as EJs. There is a massive EJ effort going on in AP.

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Postby SaiK » 02 Dec 2018 07:30

No Sabarimala 'Prasadam' for BJP in Kerala Local Body Polls Despite Frenzied Protests as Left Wins Big

The BJP, which has led frenzied protests over the entry of women of all ages into Sabarimala, failed to make political dividends and got only two seats out of 39.

https://www.news18.com/amp/news/politic ... 56335.html

Thiruvananthapuram: The ruling CPI(M)-led Left Democratic Front (LDF) in Kerala on Friday bagged 21 of the 39 seats in the keenly fought bypolls to the local bodies. The Congress-led United Democratic Front (UDF) came second with 12 seats, the results of which were announced on Friday.



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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby arvin » 02 Dec 2018 20:23

BJP making significant inroads into local or assembly would be rather slow affair. Till such time their role would be confined to organize protests and bandhs when nutcase like PV take liberties on hindu beliefs. Commies are well entrenched as local body leadership is strong. People will turn to commies for solving day to day issues while BJP/RSS will be approached only if major episode like this happens.
PV at 72 would be the fall guy in this episode and it will be business as usual for rest of the party.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby ramana » 03 Dec 2018 04:32

SaiK

Thats incorrect news. The elections were held way before Sabarimala protests.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Dileep » 03 Dec 2018 07:13

Correction Ramana. the election was on 29th November.

Local body elections are strictly on local issues and the personal charm of the person. My 'ward' here at densely populated urban region have just 1100 voters. The issues determining the winner would be drainage, street light etc apart from petty local politics.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby UlanBatori » 03 Dec 2018 07:57

If the commies are such crooks who do local people elect them? Sounds like they field better local candidates?


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