Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Yagnasri » 06 Feb 2019 17:46

From the reports on the oral observations/questions, we do not have much hope. I hope I am wrong.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Arima » 06 Feb 2019 19:47

Prasad wrote:Sabarimalai gets the eyeballs. But there is another case going on right now - Thiruvananthapuram Padmanabhaswamy kovil case

https://twitter.com/People4Dharma/statu ... 9706089474


not able to open twitter in office. what exactly is case with Padmanabhaswamy temple?

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Sachin » 07 Feb 2019 09:54

Yagnasri wrote:From the reports on the oral observations/questions, we do not have much hope. I hope I am wrong.

As per what I saw on social media, the Advocate for Travancore Devaswom Board (custodian of Sabari Mala temple) had even stated that Hinduism is a archiaic/outdated (പ്രാകൃതമായ ) religion which is retaining many bad practises of abrahamic religion :roll:. Again me too do not have much hopes on a verdict favourable to the temple, as to me look the bench has already made up its mind.

Arima wrote:not able to open twitter in office. what exactly is case with Padmanabhaswamy temple?

The gist of the case is that Kerala Govt. is trying to take over the management of the Padmanabha Swamy temple at Thiruvananthapuram Kerala. A few years back it was stated that the temple has around three vaults of which one (the B Vault) is never opened for it contained treasures of unaccounted (as of yet) value. Now GoKL's intention is not to help the God or the temple, but to get this vault opened and loot the treasures. Lord Padmanabha (an avatar of Vishnu) was the patron God of the Travancore Royal Family who ruled the Travancore Kingdom (today's South Kerala). One of the kings actually made a decree that it was Lord Padmanabha who was the ruler of the kingdom, but he would take the title of Padmanabha Dasa and officiate in the ruling of the kingdom on behalf of the God.

So what is happening is that Communists who now are GoKL are trying to usurp any big Hindu temple in Kerala, destroy the religious identity but also retain the temples to have the money associated with it.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Dileep » 07 Feb 2019 11:53

It is time we correct the injustice done by John Munro in 1812 by taking over the Temples on behalf of the Travancore kingdom.

This 'taken over' administration rights were vested with the DBs when the kingdom acceded with Indian Union, with the condition that the DB will protect the customs and rituals. This covenant now stands broken by the DB. A new system where the devotees decide matters must be put in place.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Yagnasri » 07 Feb 2019 13:05

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/b ... y-12-96321

One more attempt. I never heard devotees visiting temple twice in the same year. Opps. Sorry. These are not devotees.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Arima » 07 Feb 2019 20:27

Sachin wrote:
Yagnasri wrote:From the reports on the oral observations/questions, we do not have much hope. I hope I am wrong.

As per what I saw on social media, the Advocate for Travancore Devaswom Board (custodian of Sabari Mala temple) had even stated that Hinduism is a archiaic/outdated (പ്രാകൃതമായ ) religion which is retaining many bad practises of abrahamic religion :roll:. Again me too do not have much hopes on a verdict favourable to the temple, as to me look the bench has already made up its mind.

Arima wrote:not able to open twitter in office. what exactly is case with Padmanabhaswamy temple?

The gist of the case is that Kerala Govt. is trying to take over the management of the Padmanabha Swamy temple at Thiruvananthapuram Kerala. A few years back it was stated that the temple has around three vaults of which one (the B Vault) is never opened for it contained treasures of unaccounted (as of yet) value. Now GoKL's intention is not to help the God or the temple, but to get this vault opened and loot the treasures. Lord Padmanabha (an avatar of Vishnu) was the patron God of the Travancore Royal Family who ruled the Travancore Kingdom (today's South Kerala). One of the kings actually made a decree that it was Lord Padmanabha who was the ruler of the kingdom, but he would take the title of Padmanabha Dasa and officiate in the ruling of the kingdom on behalf of the God.

So what is happening is that Communists who now are GoKL are trying to usurp any big Hindu temple in Kerala, destroy the religious identity but also retain the temples to have the money associated with it.


Thanks for clarifying. people have belief that opening vault will bring destruction, even during Tsunami when Kanyakumari and Kollam was ravaged, Trivandrum was untouched and people attributed this to Padmanabha swamy.

on the other side, the vaults which was opened, does ASI or renowned historian have access to it? the old coins if any might bring new outlook to history.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby chetak » 08 Feb 2019 00:33

she is paying the price for her "devotion"


Activist Rehana Fathima Who Attempted To Enter Sabarimala, Jailed In Cheque Fraud Case


Activist Rehana Fathima Who Attempted To Enter Sabarimala, Jailed In Cheque Fraud Case

by Swarajya Staff - Feb 07 2019, 2:45 pm,



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Rehana Fathima (pic via Facebook)

Rehana Fathima, the ‘activist’ known for being a vocal proponent of implementing the Supreme Court’s judgment on allowing women’s entry into the Sabarimala Temple was jailed and had to pay a fine of Rs 2.1 lakh in a cheque fraud case, reports The Week.

The activist, reportedly appeared before the Alappuzha CJM court on 4 February to serve a sentence and pay the fine. A financier had filed a case against her relating to a loan she availed.

The complainant Anil Kumar had loaned Rs 2 lakh to Fathima in 2014. The cheque produced by Fathima towards the repayment of the loan reportedly bounced, prompting Kumar to complain against her.

Previously, she was arrested on 27 November by the Pathanamthitta police, under the Indian penal code (IPC) section 295(a) which pertains to deliberate and malicious acts, intended to outrage religious feelings for trying to enter Sabarimala.

The controversial activist also faced expulsion from the Muslim community at the hands of the Kerala Muslim Jama'ath Council for "hurting sentiments of lakhs of Hindu devotees" by attempting to enter the shrine.

Her employer, BSNL had also transferred her and initiated an enquiry against her.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby chetak » 08 Feb 2019 13:03

Sachin wrote:
Dileep wrote:The bunch of cases connected to the review petition will come at the constitution bench tomorrow 1030 Hrs.

As I said never trust a communist. The communist GoKL has again said that this is about gender equality and the review petitions should be dismissed. This is when they say "they are with the devotees". The hearing of all the lawyers have been completed, and the court is to reconvene in the afternoon.
Came back to say: The custodians of Hindu temples in Kerala, the Devaswom Board also agrees with GoKL. So best of luck to Hindus who trust the custodians.


The devasom board is just another state organ of the commie GoKL.

This is the reiteration of the commie govt's view with no change in the govt's stand.

Only now, the GoKL is deflecting because of the massive blowback and also slyly firing the gun from the devasom board's shoulder.

By doing this, they think that they are insulating themselves for the forthcoming elections.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby UlanBatori » 09 Feb 2019 06:58

Floods in NE Australia sort-of partially validate the GOK whine that it is all Forces of Nature onlee. They also had a worst-in-over-a-century rain. Old ppl flooded out of their homes, rescued through waist-deep mud-water etc etc.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby UlanBatori » 11 Feb 2019 21:29

And E. Sridharan (METRO man?) files suit demanding probe on floods/response/non-response.

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Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Peregrine » 12 Feb 2019 01:08

Anxiety looms as Sabarimala temple reopens on Tuesday – PTI

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: There is a sense of anxiety in and around Sabarimala as the Lord Ayyappa shrine[/b][/url] is all set to reopen on Tuesday for monthly worship, after witnessing frenzied protests during the recently concluded annual pilgrim season over the entry of young women.

The hilltop temple would be opened for five days till February 17 for the monthly pujas during the Malayalam month of Kumbam, temple authorities said Monday.

Several special rituals including 'kalabhabhishekam', 'sahasrakalasam' and 'laksharchana' would be performed during the five days at the shrine, the 'sanctum sanctorum' of which would be thrown open by chief priest Nampoothiri Tuesday evening.

Tantri (head priest) Kandararu Rajeevaru would also be present during the time of pujas, they said.

As the shrine is set to open, state police has stepped up vigil in and around Sabarimala in view of possible protests by Sangh outfits against the entry of women, belonging to the traditionally barred age group.

The police said certain restrictions had already been imposed in areas from Nalackal, the base camp to Sannidhanam (temple complex) to ensure smooth darshan for devotees.

Considering the untoward incidents caused by various organisations in areas around Sabarimala when the shrine was opened for the Thulamasa puja and the protests over the Supreme Court order allowing entry of women of all ages into the shrine, certain restrictions have been imposed in areas to ensure smooth darshan for devotees," an official release said.

Devotees and reporters would be allowed to travel from Nilackal to Pamba and Sannidhanam only after 10 am on February 12, it said.

The BJP and Sangh Parivar outfits, which had spearheaded the agitations against implementation of the September 28 Supreme Court verdict permitting women of all age groups into the shrine, are yet to reveal whether they would try to block young women.

The areas in and around the hilltop shrine had witnessed widespread violence after the CPI(M)-led LDF government decided to implement the apex court order allowing women of menstrual age into the temple.

Marking the culmination of the over two-month long stormy annual pilgrimage season, the Lord Ayyappa temple was closed on January 20.

Traditionally, women of menstruating age or in the age group of 10 to 50 years were not allowed to enter the temple as the deity, Lord Ayyappa, is believed to be in the form of "Naishtika brahmachari" (perennial celibate).

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Dileep » 12 Feb 2019 07:21

Peregrine, what exactly do you mean by the last "Cheers"?

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Rupesh » 12 Feb 2019 07:26

Dileep wrote:Peregrine, what exactly do you mean by the last "Cheers"?


That's his signature.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Sachin » 12 Feb 2019 16:31

Peregrine wrote:Anxiety looms as Sabarimala temple reopens on Tuesday – PTI

Most likely today (i.e till temple closing time on 12th Feb) may go on smoothly. One, the Devaswom Board (Muzrai Dept.) Minister had said in the legislative assembly that Supreme Court has not given any directions to state government to take up women in the other wise banned age to the temple. Secondly, the commies also did a U turn when they said only two women tried to make an entry when they had given an incorrect list of 51 people to Hon.SC.

The women activists also may cool their heels for today, because the Supreme Court is to take a call on the review petitions tomorrow. They may not want to create a ruckus today and mess up their chances tomorrow.

From Bar & Bench.
2018 landmark year for Supreme Court of India but judgments alone cannot change social attitude, DY Chandrachud J.
This statement of Mr. Justice DY Chandrachud is when a bench including him is to decide on the review petitions on the Sabari Mala temple case. This statement of his has now spreading far & wide in social media. Many advocates point out the "inherent bias" and requests Justice Chandrachud to step down from the bench (as his opinion is now pretty much decided). If the judiciary is playing to a (foreign??) gallery, then it is slowly losing its relevance.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby Yagnasri » 12 Feb 2019 18:17

I am very much surprised by this statement. I am not sure why he made it outside the court when he is already hearing the matter. He is not going to step down. That will amount making mistake and I do not see him admitting that he did something wrong. If he steps down it will be better for Indics.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

Postby chetak » 17 Feb 2019 15:38

KVS HARIDAS @keveeyes
Feb 15

Financial crunch: Kochi Devaswom Board is planning to sell the gold in its possession. It include the ornaments of idols. Since #Sabarimala the income of govt owned temples have gone down considerably & finding difficult to pay salaries. They may sell idols too, if necessary.


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