Kerala Floods - Aftermath and Save Sabarimala

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Prasad » 31 Aug 2018 11:40

Sachin wrote:News round up..
  • CMDRF crosses Rs 1000 crore. And this also makes the "UAE offer" gimmick now totally useless. Indians themselves have contributed much more.
  • Ministers to visit foreign countries to raise fund to rebuild Kerala. Yes, this is a golden opportunity to go on world tours (even though some critics may call it - "going with a begging bowl"). Expert advice on foreign countries can be given by Herr Raju (minister from CPI) who had escaped to Germany, when flood had hit Kottayam Dt, South Kerala.
  • Reliance Foundation hands over Rs 21 cr for Kerala relief. With this the communists have decided to take back the certificate of "bourgeois capitalist" to Reliance. They are now part of the proletriate. Only Adani still retains the title of "bourgeois capitalist". Hope he pays up soon.

With the threat of floods and land slides now non-existent, the true colours of the various key players in Kerala would now be revealed.

Adani donated 50crores saar :)

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Sachin » 31 Aug 2018 11:59

Prasad wrote:Adani donated 50crores saar :)

Okay, so he too should be surrender his "bourgeois capitalist" certificate to AKG Centre, Thiruvananthapuram :).

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby ramana » 01 Sep 2018 13:08

Need some volunteers to create a website showing relief work during Kerala floods.
Just simple pictures and a caption.
Will need to scour the web and collect the pictures.
High integrity. No errors.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby ramana » 02 Sep 2018 06:59

Thanks, UB!
Can others add please?

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby UlanBatori » 02 Sep 2018 07:42

The link you sent was classic. Is the name jaynewine?

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

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Postby Sachin » 04 Sep 2018 12:04

More on the floods in Kerala
14.2 pc area of Kerala prone to flood: 2009 Study.

And more on the politics after the floods
Congress urges govt to drop plan to seek aid abroad. INC in opposition does NOT want the CPI(M) ministers to go around the world with a begging bowl :lol:. Perhaps going with a begging bowl to UAE is the only acceptable "secular" move. INC now says the H&D of Kerala would go for a six if the ministers visit foreign countries. H&D of India, does not matter much.

Congress opposes KPMG's free service.
KPMG offers to be the free consultant partner for "rebuilding Kerala" after the floods :evil:. Looks like a major scam is on its way, and even CPI(M) is now a fan of foreign corporates and consultancies.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby chetak » 04 Sep 2018 12:23

Sachin wrote:More on the floods in Kerala
14.2 pc area of Kerala prone to flood: 2009 Study.

And more on the politics after the floods
Congress urges govt to drop plan to seek aid abroad. INC in opposition does NOT want the CPI(M) ministers to go around the world with a begging bowl :lol:. Perhaps going with a begging bowl to UAE is the only acceptable "secular" move. INC now says the H&D of Kerala would go for a six if the ministers visit foreign countries. H&D of India, does not matter much.

Congress opposes KPMG's free service.
KPMG offers to be the free consultant partner for "rebuilding Kerala" after the floods :evil:. Looks like a major scam is on its way, and even CPI(M) is now a fan of foreign corporates and consultancies.


These are funds for 2019.

That's why so many political parties are objecting.

Money laundering is the name of the game.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby chetak » 04 Sep 2018 12:53

Intellectually Bankrupt Left Ecosystem exposed in Kerala Floods.

Sep 03, 2018

Anjali George

A wise man said once; "Crisis exposes a person". Rightly so, the Kerala Floods exposed many.

One of the striking pictures of the devastating floods which killed over 400 people and displaced thousands was the condition of a bridge which connects Malayattur to Kodanad across the Periyar river in Ernakulam district. As the flood waters receded, what was left on the bridge was a part of all the filth that humans had thrown into the river water over the years. It was a testimony to all that’s wrong with us as a society. But this was not the only filth that the receding waters brought to the surface. It also exposed the intellectually bankrupt Leftist ecosystem that resorts to online "mob lynchings" and fake news to set their narrative. But this time, their agenda setting did not work as expected. On the contrary it brought out the chinks in its armor and proved once again that the intellectual cover that its cadre try to give their flawed political and social constructs is nothing but a sham.

Attempts to set the narrative picked up pace soon after the flood waters started receding.

Hundreds of brave personnel of the NDRF, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, state police, fire force and many more had participated in the rescue efforts. An affidavit filed by the state government in the Supreme Court reveals the extent of deployment.

“59 rescue teams of NDRF with 207 boats, 23 columns of ARMY units with 104 boats, 94 rescue teams of NAVY with1 medical team, 9 helicopters, 2 fixed wing aircrafts and 94 boats and 36 teams of COAST GUARD with 49 boats, 2 helicopters, 23 fixed wing helicopters, 2 fixed wing and 27 hired boats, were deployed. AIR FORCE provided 22 helicopters and 23 fixed wing aircrafts, BSF provided 2 companies with one water vehicle team and10 teams of CRPF were deployed. 4100 Fire and Rescue Services personnel were engaged, and they operated 69 Rubber Boats. Odisha fire services provided 244 Firemen and 63 Rubber Boats”.

Another group that played an equally stellar role in the rescue efforts was the fishermen. Expecting nothing in return, they rushed to the flooded areas with their canoes to save the stranded people.

But then the party cadre, many of whom masquerade as independent journalists, could not digest the thought of any credit going to the uniformed personnel, because these soldiers are committed to the unity and integrity of India, something that their ideological brethren – the urban naxals – fight day in and day out.

What if praising these men and women in uniform or the likes of Kanhaiya Kumar from Bihar who ran across the bridge in Cheruthoni in Idukki district with a baby held tightly to his chest evokes sympathy for other Indians in the minds of Keralaites? Any such feeling of empathy would hurt the politics of hatred and regionalism which they have carefully tried to cultivate in the minds of Keralites in the last few years to checkmate Hindutva gaining traction in the state.

Apparatchiks found a way out to prevent this - praise the fishermen as the real rescuers and downplay the work done by the forces They thought that this romanticism of fisherfolk saving lives in a flood would help divert the attention away from others. But they grossly underestimated the people of Kerala, who cutting across politics and religion showered praise on all those who helped.

The attempt to polarize was evident even in newsrooms. A journalist was heard asserting in his TV channel, that the national media had blacked out Kerala floods. He attributes it to the ‘tyranny of distance’. So, called intellectuals followed up such half-baked claims with tweets about "United states of South India", a pipe-dream for a separate nation for the south Indian states.

Tweets and comments by some random crazy people and a dubious saffron-clad man linking the floods to food habits of Malayalees was paraded as some general authoritative statement to push the narrative that the Hindutva supporters had only disdain for Kerala. But once again, their sinister plot drowned in the outpour of love for Kerala from all across the country.

When all their machinations flopped, they latched on to the Rs 700 crore UAE aid story. As the real facts emerged, Arnab Goswami did a report calling out those who floated the theory as a bunch of shameless Indians. The brain dead in the Left saw in it another opportunity to polarize and tried to give it a different spin. They went to town claiming that Arnab had insulted all Malayalees, but this flopped too. Even I have reasons to disagree with Arnab’s journalism, but lying to feed poisonous agendas is horrendous to say the least.

The noise was also to divert people’s attention from their own government’s failure to deal with the crisis.

But how pea-brained should they be to not realize that when they give all the credit to fishermen, it also throws up the question –what exactly was the CPM-led state government and its machinery doing during the flood?

Sections of the intellectually bankrupt Leftist media struggled hard and is still trying its best to prevent a backlash against its favorite government for alleged mismanagement of the calamity. From the local committee dolts to the Lutyens 'liberal', they are desperate. Note the complete absence of reports in the national media, especially English, questioning the state government’s role. Over 400 people died, but the so-called investigative journalists aren’t even bothered about finding if the government messed up while opening the dams. Those who turned the world upside down over Gorakhpur hospital deaths are now shamelessly silent.

When the floods started, we saw a `leading journalist’ questioning the genuineness of some photos of RSS workers helping flood affected. His news portal did a report that the pictures were from Gujarat.

Maybe he was right about the photos in question, but the social media was literally bursting with reports and real photos of volunteers of Seva bharati, the service wing of the RSS, pro-actively helping in the rescue operations and relief work in Kerala. How many of these photos did this journalist or any liberal tweet to appreciate the good work?

With their willingness to work in any adverse conditions, these selfless volunteers were indeed a tremendous source of help in many remote regions that got cut off as waters rose.

When the comrades were allegedly threatening businessmen to pay up and trying to appropriate relief materials, thousands of Seva bharati workers went about silently doing their work - setting up relief camps, collecting and distributing food and other essential items and providing medical help. After the waters receded, thousands of them once again went around cleaning the dirt-filled houses, irrespective of the political affinity or religion of its owners.

Naturally, the comrades are worried that the goodwill earned by their work will help saffron politics in the state.

Their time-tested strategy to stop any saffron surge in Kerala has been to create a barrier between the people and the Hindutva outfits by demonizing the RSS. But thanks to the selfless efforts of the Seva bharati volunteers, their machinations have been punctured.

And It is only a matter of time before their conspiracies fizzle out completely.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby UlanBatori » 04 Sep 2018 21:11

Came in soshyal meediyah

Welcome to Mo-Hun Bhagwat :eek:

Relevant to flood relief. Several pics and videos of Malloostan Phlood.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Sachin » 05 Sep 2018 11:33

On the rehabilitation process in KL
  • Three ex-Ministers demand judicial probe into Kerala floods. The ex-ministers from INC background, but their demand is most genuine. A calamity of this importance cannot be ignored without doing any root cause analysis.
  • Dispute over flood review; Revenue dept wants nodal agencies to conduct study. This also seems to be a good move considering that all Central Govt. aid etc. would be depending on the reports of the nodal agencies.
  • Flood relief: We will give salary but don’t compel. Kerala govt. has mandated all government employees to donate one month salary (at one shot or as easy installments ;)). Any body who does NOT want to do that, should give that in instruction in writing. This is really absurd that in any other case such contributions are voluntary, and it is the acceptance to make such donations which is given out in writing. GoKL seems to be making this flood a money making excercise. Government officials will not make any statement in writing, which they know would cause them harm; which includes arbitrary transfers or some communist style instant justice. Nobody wants to get a black mark unneccessarily. And off course, such moves are not considered "fascist" or draconoian by the local intellectuals, and the award wapsi gang :roll: :evil:.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby chetak » 05 Sep 2018 13:32

Big fraud by Marxist govt in Kerala in the pretext of flood relief and reconstruction drive


Big fraud by Marxist govt in Kerala in the pretext of flood relief and reconstruction drive

The first life-saving material to land in Kerala was the Bible!

By Team PGurus - September 4, 2018

People in the field who closely monitored the water level were posting messages in the microblogging sites about the ulterior motives of the CPI-M leaders and the Kerala ministers.

The CPI-M led Kerala government was caught with its trousers down as the demand for funds for flood relief and rehabilitation raised by Chief Minister (CM) Pinarayi Vijayan has been found to be a big hoax.

What is causing concern is the delay by the Kerala Government in submitting to the Centre the official data about the extent of damages caused in the man-made floods.


The Chief Minister who has been complaining from day one that the Narendra Modi-led federal government was victimising it because of the former’s secular, liberal, democratic and human rights policies was also campaigning through the mass media that the State needs more than Rs.40,000 crores ($6 billion) for the reconstruction of roads and other infrastructure facilities.

Vijayan had told Prime Minister Modi who visited the State on August 18 that the recent man-made floods had caused a loss of Rs.20,000 crores ($3 billion). The Chief Minister’s claim was that 98,000 km road had been destroyed because of the floods and the State required Rs.13,800 crores ($2 billion) for re-laying the same. But senior officials of the Public Works Department in their stock-taking after the receding of the flood waters found that only 34,372 km of roads have been damaged and this could be reconstructed with just Rs.5800 crores. (The 98,000 km road includes 16,000 km long road built by the PWD, 82,000 km long village roads and 134 small bridges).

The Prime Minister had issued a directive to the National Highway Authority of India to relay the damaged/ destroyed highways and the National Thermal Power Corporation and the Power Grid Corporation of India Ltd to repair/ rectify/ replace the power system and transmission lines which were damaged in the man-made floods.

What is causing concern is the delay by the Kerala Government in submitting to the Centre the official data about the extent of damages caused in the man-made floods. Interestingly, the Kerala Chief Minister in his daily interactions with the media had stated that the damages may cross even Rs.40,000 crores.


The State is yet to respond to the queries made by the NHAI, NTPC and the PGCIL about the details of the damaged caused by the highways and power sector in the disaster. Pinarayi Vijayan did not expect the Prime Minister to make a declaration that the Centre would take over the reconstruction works caused by the man-made floods. Did the CPI-M led Kerala government want to make a big fortune out of the floods by claiming that the State had suffered massive destruction? The Prime Minister also went to the extent of declaring that the houses destroyed/ damaged in the floods would be rebuilt/ repaired under the Prime Minister’s Awas Yojana, a scheme initiated by the Centre for making houses available to all those without a roof over their heads.

What caught the attention in the recent floods was the stance of the Kerala Government and the CPI-M in publicising the “damages” and “destructions” caused by the man-made floods. The Lok Sabha election is around the corner and the CPI-M, past masters in the game of election fund collection saw the heavy rains as an opportunity to collect as much cash under the garb of flood relief.

The Marxists stand with egg on their face following the disclosures made by the UAE Government that there never was an offer of $100 million from them.

If there was a main architect of the man-made floods in Kerala it would be the Marxist minister for power M M Mony. It was Mony, who vehemently opposed the opening of the shutters of the dams in Kerala, especially the Idukki and Edamalayar hydro electric projects in spite of advance warnings issued by the Indian Meteorological Department (IMD) and the Ministry of Earth Sciences (MOES)[1] about the impending heavy rains which were to ravage the State[2].

Why was Mony near the Idukki Dam, when the water levels were rising? Was it to ensure that the engineers did not open the shutters of the dam? “Had the dams been opened as per the data given by the IMD and the ministry of earth sciences, this flood would not have occurred,” said a senior power systems engineer[3].


The chief minister claimed that the IMD or MOES did not give an advance warning about the rainfall. When confronted with the press notes issued by these bodies, Vijayan was forced to retract from his allegations. Interestingly, the Kerala Government has filed an affidavit before the Supreme Court in response to a PIL by an Idukki resident stating that the unprecedented high level of water in the Mullaperiyar Dam, owned by Tamil Nadu should be brought down[4].

Tamil Nadu government filed a counter to this statement but not before Chief Minister Edappadi Palaniswamy giving a mouthful to his Kerala counterpart for spreading all kinds of canards about the floods. It was to divert the attention of the public from these two setbacks that the Marxist dominated media in Kerala came out with allegations that Prime Minister Modi had refused the $100 million offered to Kerala by the UAE Government.

The Marxists stand with egg on their face following the disclosures made by the UAE Government that there never was an offer of $100 million from them. If a thorough probe is ordered into the factors that led to the delay in the opening of the shutters of more than 40 dams in the State, the CPI-M would be in for major trouble.

The volunteers of World Vision, one of the first evangelical teams to reach the flood affected Kerala came with tonnes and tonnes of Bibles and registration forms for religious conversion

Though there were heavy rains in the second fortnight of the month of July, it had not caused any major floods barring landslides at some high range locations. But the Marxist media aired close up shots of water gushing down the rivers to create an impression that Kerala has fallen prey to a major natural disaster.

What is of concern is that the flood had literally damaged certain areas in the districts of Pathanamthitta, Ernakulam, Alappuzha, regions close to Periyar River. The floods inflicted maximum damage to places like Chengannur, Thiruvalla, and Aranmula where there is considerable Hindu population. Hundreds of people were caught up in the Aranmula Temple for days because the flood waters had swallowed the roads leading to the temple. But the Kerala Government refused to hand over the rescue and relief operations to the central forces and paid scant regard to the victims who got stranded in the temple as well as in other regions in these places.

The local Marxist leaders, in fact, drove away the volunteers of Seva Bharati (a voluntary rescue team under the RSS who are always the first activists who reach any places coming under natural disasters) and seized all the relief materials brought by the Seva Bharati for the flood victims. This was done allegedly under the instructions of Kodiyeri Balakrishnan, the secretary of the CPI-M, infamous as a black magician as well as a sorcerer. More details about the rescue and relief drama staged by the Marxist volunteers will soon figure in the PGurus.

The volunteers of World Vision, one of the first evangelical teams to reach the flood affected Kerala came with tonnes and tonnes of Bibles and registration forms for religious conversion[5]. The first life-saving material to land in Kerala was the Bibles! Evangelists came under the garb of disaster relief operators!

People in the field who closely monitored the water level were posting messages in the microblogging sites about the ulterior motives of the CPI-M leaders and the Kerala ministers.


On Sunday early morning (September 1, 2018) Pinarayi Vijayan left for the USA for a medical check-up. One wonders what is in store for Kerala and the CM!

All members of the Kerala cabinet are flying abroad on fund collection drives. Please wait for the detailed report from the countries they are visiting.

[1] Reservoirs not managed using a scientific, decision-support system: M. Rajeevan – Aug 27, 2018, The Hindu

[2] Kerala lacks a flood warning system: Ministry of Earth Sciences – Aug 26, 2018, The Hindu

[3] Dams were 80% full in July – Sep 1, 2018, Indian Express

[4] Kerala blames Tamil Nadu for floods – Aug 24, 2018, The Hindu

[5] Deep State in India? Discussion with Madhu Kishwar – Sep 2, 2018, Facebook page of Rajiv Malhotra

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby ramana » 06 Sep 2018 03:15

So lots of corruption by Kerala Govt?

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby sanjaykumar » 06 Sep 2018 05:27

I am positive that reading material will be put to good use.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby habal » 06 Sep 2018 10:14

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news ... I_amp.html

For 8 days IAS officer toiled at Kerala relief camp without revealing who he was

Kannan Gopinathan, a 2012 batch IAS officer serving as district collector in the union territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli, had arrived in Kerala on August 26 as the state battled devastation from deadly floods.
Updated: Sep 05, 2018 18:26:49

For eight days, Kannan Gopinathan worked at relief camps in flood-ravaged Kerala, spending two of those carrying large packages on his head while offloading relief material from trucks in the port city of Kochi. On the ninth day, he was recognised as an IAS officer and he quietly left, as discreetly as he had arrived and helped.

Gopinathan, a 2012 batch IAS officer serving as district collector in the union territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli, had arrived in Kerala on August 26 as the state battled devastation from deadly floods. He was on an official visit to hand over a cheque for Rs one crore from Dadra and Nagar Haveli for the Kerala chief minister’s relief fund.

Once that engagement was over, the 32-year-old took a bus from state capital Thiruvananthapuram. Not to his home town Puthupally, but to one of Kerala’s worst-affected areas, Chengannur, where he went from camp to camp helping distressed people forced to abandon their homes and seek shelter.

He is reluctant to talk about it. “I didn’t do anything great. I was just a visitor. You have to talk to officers who live in the midst of the affected since the flood hit the state. They are real heroes,” Gopinathan said, describing as “embarrassing”, the moment when he was recognised and people clamoured to click selfies with him. He was spotted while volunteering at a relief camp at the Kerala Books and Publications Society office, by a senior currently posted in Kerala.

On his return to Dadra and Nagar Haveli, Gopinathan applied for leave but the administration has marked the time he spent helping at the camps as an official tour.

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Postby Sachin » 06 Sep 2018 12:02

Centre to provide more aid to Kerala as per mechanism: Arun Jaitley.
What is clearly being stated is that Kerala's Finance Minister cannot whine and complain on TV channels, or similar media programs and hope that Govt. of India would provide more funds. Kerala would have to use the "existing mechanism" (i.e proper verifiable reports and justifications) when asking for more money. Communist philosophy of Rob the rich, feed the poor; and we communists are the poor! are not going to work out.

Help Nagaland, they were with us in our difficulty: {Kerala} CM.
The willingness to help Nagaland should be appreciated. But why Nagaland alone? From what I know, even Assam is flooded and UP is also facing a big flood challenge. Why not help those states as well? Assam is also not a very big state. This statement seems to have been coaxed out by the missionaries.

Mean while in UP UP flood death toll hits 325 as rainfall intensifies; major rivers in spate. Did not find much information about the situation in UP. From the lack of negative news about this in main stream media, looks like Yogi & Co are actually doing a good job on the ground.

ramana wrote:So lots of corruption by Kerala Govt?

Kerala is actually a bankrupt state, and the current state government is actually trying to milch the sad situation of the floods to the extreme. The state's finance minister - called an economic scientist - have not really come up with any good scheme to alleviate the situation. All his methods are either taking money by force (from salaried people) or by increasing prices on liquor and selling more lottery tickets. The way things are going, lots of money is going to reach lots of undeserving people. From what I hear even the Rs. 10,000 which was to be given as aid to people who moved out of relief camps are not being given out. Reason, the money would only be given to bank accounts. The Jan Dhan account project which was launched by GoI to provide every one with a bank account, was deliberately scuttled by GoKL.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Sachin » 07 Sep 2018 19:42

Devaswom Board Directs Temples To ‘Donate’ For Kerala Flood Relief, ‘On What Authority’ Asks Kerala High Court
The flood relief was slowly becoming an extortion racket, and it is good that a controversial order has been stayed. Let the state's Devaswom Board (equivalent to Muzrai Dept. in other places) come up with an explanation on how donations can be forcefully taken.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby arvin » 07 Sep 2018 22:05

Heard state govt employees have also been asked to donate one months salary 'voluntarily' . TV Ads for donating to relief fund are still running on prime time. TV Ad also shows armed Bell huey helicopter passing by maybe to depict helicopter rescue by indian navy :|

Attempt seem to be mopping up as much as possible from every possible source without any concrete rebuilding plan.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby chetak » 08 Sep 2018 11:04

Miffed at IMD, Kerala government eyes global agencies for better forecast



Miffed at IMD, Kerala government eyes global agencies for better forecast

Bureaucrats said the state government’s key weather-related decisions including the opening of dam shutters, evacuation of people, etc are guided based on the forecast of IMD among other things

By Rajesh Abraham
06th September 2018

KOCHI: Amid the blame game over the delay in the opening of dam shutters in the state in the aftermath of the floods, a new line of thought is emerging within the Secretariat’s corridors: To use weather prediction inputs provided by international biggies like the IBM Weather Company for a more precise location-based forecast.

“Allow these big reputed private companies to supply data to the Indian Meteorological Department (IMD) and let them prescribe the standards,” said a senior bureaucrat. “If India can buy defence equipment from private players; if countries such as Japan and European countries can rely on the forecast by companies such as Mitsubishi, Earth Network, Samsung and IBM’s The Weather Company, what stops us from using such superior data?” wondered the officer.

When contacted, IMD director general K J Ramesh said it is providing 3 km x 3 km radius forecast, which gives predictions up to the taluk level.

IMD director general K J Ramesh said, “We’re providing this info on our website. If private players start giving info, then we can’t be held responsible if something goes wrong.” Bureaucrats said the state government’s key weather-related decisions including the opening of dam shutters, evacuation of people, etc are guided based on the forecast of IMD among other things.

Recently, IBM’s The Weather Company dashboard was installed at the CM’s office, which has been giving regular weather update feeds. “We observed the feeds from The Weather Company were even more precise,” said another officer.

Additional Chief Secretary P H Kurian said engaging private firms can bring a new perspective. He, however, refrained from commenting further. The government, right now, cannot act upon the information by private players as the IMD is the sole agency responsible for weather forecasting in India. It also provides meteorological observations and seismology.

Asked about the IMD’s claim of providing weather forecast up to 3 km x 3 km, the officer said its predictions were “erratic” and “not reliable” when compared with the predicted rainfall and the realised rainfall. “When we analysed the IMD data on 9-sq km radius, we found there’s a big gap between the realised rainfall and predicted rainfall,” said the officer.

Further, as per the BIS standards, a state like Kerala should have 258 rain gauges, as compared to the existing 69 stations. “We prefer automated stations, which will give us concurrent data. Right now, only five stations give us that. There’s no point in getting the data the next day,” the officer said.

For planning of emergency evacuation, the government needs three months’ advance forecast on the rainfalls in the catchment areas. “Private players can bring such credible information,” said the officer.
In fact, a Parliamentary Standing Committee that looked into Cyclone Ockhi had also suggested the IMD should collaborate with international firms. In its report tabled on April 4, it said: “The IMD must learn from best practices being followed globally to improve prediction of such a phenomenon. If needed, research should be undertaken to predict cyclones in collaboration with global organisations.”

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby nandakumar » 08 Sep 2018 11:15

India has a private agency for weather forecasting. Nothing prevents the Kerala Government from subscribing to their service out of funds voted by the State legislature. But I doubt if their forecasts are any better than IMD. The truth is that Indian monsoon is such a difficult phenomenon that most models come up short all too frequently.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Sridhar K » 08 Sep 2018 20:35

If I am not wrong, even the private ones uses IMD radar and data. From Pradeep John, it is one of the best available but IMDs inference are too generic

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby chetak » 13 Sep 2018 12:38

Predatory Fish Like Arapaima, Red Belly Piranha And Alligator Gar Spotted After Kerala Floods




Predatory Fish Like Arapaima, Red Belly Piranha And Alligator Gar Spotted After Kerala floods

Raising some serious concerns over the balance of life in the freshwater rivers of Kerala, a number of predatory non-native fish breeds have been spotted in the waters ever since the recent floods.


A couple of photos and videos making rounds on social media for the past few days suggest that an arapaima was caught by some locals from the Chalakudy river in Thrissur District.

A couple of photos and videos making rounds on social media for the past few days suggest that an arapaima was caught by some locals from the Chalakudy river in Thrissur District.

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Recently spotted in Vembanad Lake is Alligator Gar. The Gar which resembles an alligator is among the largest freshwater fishes in North America. It can grow upto 80-100 kgs.

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South America, piranhas

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby chetak » 13 Sep 2018 12:46

After floods, Kerala now faces an invasion from piranha, African catfish and other non-native predatorial fish

After floods, Kerala now faces an invasion from piranha, African catfish and other non-native predatorial fish

After the catastrophic floods in Kerala last month that led to massive loss of lives and property, the state is now probably staring at another crisis that is likely to threaten the ecological balance of its waterbodies. Although it is too early to gauge what the ultimate outcome might be, the sightings of predatory, alien fish species in large numbers that appear to have found their way into the state's waterbodies, are turning out to be a cause of concern for the state.

A team of researchers from the University of Kerala, the Kerala University of Fisheries and Ocean Studies, and National Institute of Advanced Studies in Bangalore carried out a quick initial assessment of the state's waterbodies to find 11 alien species in all — four of which are invasive, a report in The Hindu says.

“Globally, floodwaters have proved to be a major route for the spread of invasive species," A Biju Kumar, a professor at the Department of Aquatic Biology and Fisheries, University of Kerala told The Hindu. "Therefore, a precautionary approach is warranted while farming potential invasive (fish) along floodplains.”

The school of alien fish appear to have washed into Kerala from ornamental and commercial fish farms in the state, said an India Times report. Farming certain predator fish species like piranhas are banned in the state, however, commercial dealers continue to rear them illegally.

Some photographs of these non-native fish have been circulated on social media over the past few days. One even shows a few men grinning at their luck after having caught a fish the size of a full-grown human.

Another point of concern, the report cited, is the fitness of some of the foreign species, particularly the species known as the African catfish. This particular type of fish can grow over 50kg in size by feasting on other fish and has no known natural predators.

In the weeks since the flood, the red-bellied piranha — one of the deadliest freshwater fish known to man — has also been reported by fishermen. Another new species spotted in Kerala's newly-calm waters is the Arapaima (pictured), a vicious predator of Brazilian origin known to survive out of water for a considerable amount of time.

While the sightings continue to raise concerns among Keralites, the ecological impact of having a sea of non-native, predatorial fish remains an uncertainty for now.


Date: Sep 12, 2018

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby UlanBatori » 13 Sep 2018 21:04

They must be in Malloostan to convert the native fish?

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby chetak » 13 Sep 2018 22:55

UlanBatori wrote:They must be in Malloostan to convert the native fish?


there are always idiot fish contractors and other heroes who will do just about anything to increase fish farming yields and hence their profits.

Some even purposely release predatory young fish in native water bodies because these guys are simply antisocial.

They have been brought into the country/state illegally.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby ramana » 15 Sep 2018 01:45

Chetak, Are the piranha being raised for sinister purpose of disappearing people in fish ponds?

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Rahul M » 15 Sep 2018 01:50

they are mostly a fancy aquarium fish in India.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Dileep » 15 Sep 2018 08:32

ramana wrote:Chetak, Are the piranha being raised for sinister purpose of disappearing people in fish ponds?


Traditionally, it was Crocodiles that were used for this purpose. A lot of "historical documents" available for activities of supervillains like Jose Prakash

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby chetak » 16 Sep 2018 00:40

ramana wrote:Chetak, Are the piranha being raised for sinister purpose of disappearing people in fish ponds?


This originally "ornamental" fish is now being raised mostly for mischief it looks like.

Fish farms and water bodies are being surreptitiously contaminated with these predators.

The recent floods have seen them spread much farther and suddenly everyone is waking up to the dangers of such voracious predators.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Sachin » 18 Sep 2018 19:29

Kerala is now clearly showing a way how NOT to take "donations/contributions" from people when a natural calamity strikes. The classic communist way of "Rob the rich, feed the poor; and we communists are poor" logic is now in full swing. Arbitrary transfers of officials who did not wish to donate, beating up of rival trade union members who refused to contribute money, and setting contribution targets for Hindu temples - these are some of the methods adopted by the communist government. If these are not draconian rules, then don't know what else are. The media in KL is like a compass always looking up to North India, and report even the smallest problem out there.
* HC slams compulsory salary deduction to CMDRF.
* No consent note; 1 month's pay of Govt staff to be cut.

These methods adopted by GoKL clearly is a proof for the strict checks with the central government insisted on before issuing any form of relief to KL. The state is really bankrupt and is now trying to milch the tragedy with stuck her people.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Dileep » 19 Sep 2018 12:43

My mother used to make a 'kunnathunadan' quip, which roughly translates to "people who sell tears of a dead child (which is given to them for burial)". I get reminded of this everyday, seeing how low we people can sink.

I never (while in my rational self) blame the netas/politicos. Hey, they ain't Martians! They ain't even the Brits. They are 'we', the voting, ration buying, movie watching Indian Citizens. Collectively, we are bad onlee!!

I paid money to CMDRF myself (and regret now). I paid into our little fund at work, which we bought stuff and took directly to the relief camps, where our own gals and guys were managing the distribution. I also paid into the fund which we used to help our own colleagues who got affected.

If I am doing anything more, that would be to bona fide verifiable destinations.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Sachin » 19 Sep 2018 15:47

Dileep wrote:I paid money to CMDRF myself (and regret now). I paid into our little fund at work, which we bought stuff and took directly to the relief camps, where our own gals and guys were managing the distribution. I also paid into the fund which we used to help our own colleagues who got affected.

I did not contribute any thing to CMDRF, which looks like one of the best decisions I have made. Contributions were only help or money handed over to people who I trust. The situation in KL from what I hear from my own friends out there is that; many people have not yet received any relief (including the first promised Rs.10,000). They were to submit an application at the Municipal/Village offices with banks details, Aadhaar # etc. Some people have done that multiple times, but nothing has happened. And for many poor people they have lost bank & aadhaar details. Perhaps using the Akshaya kiosks etc., GoKL should have setup facilities to retrieve the Aadhaar # (using finger prints), with which bank details can easily be figured out from the bank's computers. From the state government machinery side, I am not seeing much help being offered to people of the state. And looks like most of the people have some how spent money from their pockets and have started getting their homes back to shape.

Mean while; Salary Challenge: 2 more days left to give `no consent' letter.. So for many GoKL employees part of their salaries goes poof in next two days. Long live the revolution!

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Dileep » 28 Sep 2018 14:12

College Students volunteer to go from house to house to collect damage information and creds like Aadhar and Bank account details. The information is geo-tagged, so the GPS co-ordinate of the actual place where the photos are taken is available. My elder one does this.

10,000 distribution is almost complete. The list of beneficiaries is published, and a number of misuse is caught. They are asked to return the money, or face consequences.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Sachin » 28 Sep 2018 15:13

Dileep wrote:College Students volunteer to go from house to house to collect damage information and creds like Aadhar and Bank account details. The information is geo-tagged, so the GPS co-ordinate of the actual place where the photos are taken is available. My elder one does this.

How are they handling cases where people don't have their passbooks or Aadhaar cards? There were cases where every thing was washed away. Are they using some kind of finger print reader to check with UIDAI and get the Aadhaar number?

10,000 distribution is almost complete. The list of beneficiaries is published, and a number of misuse is caught. They are asked to return the money, or face consequences.

Good to know that. And the Rs 10,000/- goes to a bank account? Some other malpractises where govt. official giving exaggerated claims for property damages etc. A couple of such people were also caught.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Dileep » 29 Sep 2018 09:02

Aadhar exists in the UIDAI server. The "card" is simply a 'certified copy'. All the person need to do is to put the finger on the scanner at the facilitation centre, and the details will pop-up. I did that myself, when I went to register my mobile number.

If you 'register' your mobile number, then you can use that mobile to get your aadhar as well.

Bank account also exists within the core banking server. The passbook is only a certified copy. The bank branch can get your account number and print a duplicate passbook within minutes. If you had linked the account with Aadhar, the account is traceable instantly.

So, this question of "people don't have their passbooks or Aadhaar cards" is moot. If you were a moron (or a privacy nut, or a terrorist) who did not take Aadhar and did not link the bank account... Then DEAL WITH IT!! You don't need govt help anyway!!

Oh.. wait.. You CAN get Aadhar and Bank account in what? Two days!!. BTW, there is no concept of "new Aadhar". It is biometric based, so once you get an Aadhar, that is all there is. You can't get 'another'. The system will tell you that you already got one.

This volunteer survey is to avoid malpractice. But us being us, there will be some embellishment etc.

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Re: Kerala Floods - Aug 2018

Postby Sachin » 03 Oct 2018 16:11

{Kerala} CM, 17 ministers to go on foreign trip from Oct 18 to raise funds for rebuilding Kerala.

As per the CMDRF web site, donations received stands at Rs.1621.26 Cr. Fund distribution to the needy people stands at Rs.422.68 Cr. So there is a balance of Rs. 1198.58 crore. And this talks about public donations. Central Govt. aid etc are not included here. The state govt. has still not given any concrete plan to central government on what they plan to do to bring back the state to its normalcy levels.

And then on top of all this the entire cabinet of communists are now planning for a world tour (with a claim that they are there to collect relief funds). Who ever had wanted to contribute would already have done so by now. And how much of contributions can a minister (and his entourage) personally collect is also a big question mark. The Kerala communists have now made a tragedy into a tragi-comedy :( :evil: . They are just stealing money from the state's own citizens using various means including threats. And they are also now splurging on world tour programs.

PS: Note the countries where the communists are planning to visit. Not even a single communist country out there. No China, no Cuba and not even the erstwhile soviet republics. For money and fun communists want to go to capitalistic places :lol:.


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