madhu wrote:Some times I feel Congress has done more good to Hindus than BJP.
fanne wrote:If Manu SANGHVI is able to move the Judges in favor of Sabarimala and cong plays that out, mind my words, that maybe the start of BJP loosing 2019.
hnair wrote:But BJP national leadership comes across as a cynical, vote-counting bunch with no idea about tailoring messages. Good luck to them - they are not going to get a better opening than this and if they squander it like they way they did over last few weeks, one has to agree that the party has zero interest in studying the South-specific Hindu problems
In Sabari Mala case it is Congress-10 v/s BJP- (a big) 0. The Congress in Kerala really knows that this is a god send opportunity for them to interfere. Now if Congress gets folks like AM Singhvi and Kapil Sibal etc involved, BJP would have to literally sit and whine. As it is we all know that folks like Singhvi, Sibal etc. are folks who can even get bail pleas heard on phone. Their clout in Supreme Court is widely known. And if Singhvi & Co also some how gets this issue sorted out (in favour of the devotees), then it is going to be a grand "vote pulling"
move from them. It may even make Ra.Ga's claim of Janyudhari Brahman
look more credible. Congress would be clearly seen as a party which defended the faith of Kerala Hindus. And in a state where governments are generally formed either by the commies, or the Congress; the next election results are pretty obvious.
BJP in Kerala is actually digging its own grave. One they did not have the "local intelligence" to know the sense of the people. Secondly, they were hesitant to take a different stance from that of their Nagpur HQ. By the time they did their U turn, Congress had already made their U turn was running far ahead. Now we hear about Congress getting folks like A.M Singhvi involved. BJP in Kerala still don't have any concrete action plan. They still not have told what they plan to do with the court verdict. They have not made any attempts to approach the judiciary. The Prime Minister has been absolutely silent on the issue, and so is A.Shah. The state level BJP is still trying to use this as a political weapon to target the commies.
Now BJP would use its cadre to come up with some of their "cheap tricks"
. That is to make some derogatory remarks against the "Activists", threaten them and make life miserable for them etc. Their leadership would do the usual "dharna/piqueting"
stuff, which the police would take it as an amusement for some time and then arrest them. BJP would try to show case this as their attempt to "save the Hindu faith"
fanne wrote:But BJP in general has hurt itself out of Kerela. A non publicized involvement has not gone down well (I believe they were fully involved in saving the tradition, in spite of some glansot infected bjp/rss members). They must reach out and assure, that they were not fiddling while Sabarimala sentiments burned.
arshyam wrote:RSS helping the movement? Sounds like a hijacking from within to me. Didn't the RSS act all liberal and welcome the verdict?
sivab wrote:Some KL BJP/RSS leaders did course correction. K Surendran above is KL BJP Gen Sec.
As I said in the above comment Kerala BJP has missed the issue by miles. The BJP cannot even claim a "non publicized movement". Yes there may have been BJP cadre who protested at the temple, but they went there because they were Ayyappa devotees. Not based on directives from Nagpur HQ. It was only very late that RSS and Subramaniam Swamy etc. made their U turns. By then the Ayyappa devotees had come up with their own plan of protests (a peaceful one). What BJP would try (or already trying) would be to some how "inject" themselves in this protest. I did see some social media posts in which BJP leaders were seen "welcoming" protestors from their locality who had gone to Sabari Mala.
K. Surendran etc. are just playing political games, hoping that they would get more votes. What is Kerala BJP's next plan? How can Kerala BJP influence the central government (BJP led)? These folks are unable to clearly articulate that. The BJP is clearly proving to be a North Indian Hindu party
; who is least bit bothered about Hindu cause in areas which its presence is not all that great.
hnair wrote:The current state govt has been hijacked completely by a cohort of Malabar thugs, whose only game is brutality. The CPI-M's southern faction (centered around Alapuzha) is more educated
As I have been saying the CPI(M) is now like the Italian Mafia
, masquerading as a political party. Their top leadership is from North Kerala, where a kind of Mafia
culture actually exists. Killing people over trivial issues, vendetta spanning across generations are all still there. And this Mafia
also has its own business fronts and also have their influence on main stream media, and law enforcement machinery in Kerala. But being like a Mafia
; the leadership also lacks any vision and at times their inherent "poverty in the mind"
comes out. Take for example the grand plan to send 15+ ministers on a begging spree across the world. For these "leaders" foreign capitalistic countries are like Utopia. They jolly well know that this would be the only time they can visit these countries (especially without paying any money from their pockets).
Javee wrote:Saar, I don't know if there will be enough devotees to police the temple after the peak season.
The temple would open for a day in November (November 5th to 6th). My only hope is on social media and the Ayyappa devotees effectively using it. After that the peak season (Mandala Kaalam
) starts from Nov 16th. The court is supposed to hear all the review petitions before that. In the peak season I don't think any sensible woman activist would make an attempt to make the visit. The police have clearly thrown up their hands and said that they cannot do this "escort" business during the peak season.
vijayk wrote:AP and TS people are great devotees of Ayyappa swamy. Even my sisters Hyderabad heard about that Rehman lady via whatsapp. They all know what's going on. But unfortunately they can't connect all the dots (judiciary/Evangelicals NGOs-CON party/COMMIE nexus).
My sincere request would be to have more awareness introduced. Among the women who tried to seek entry majority of them from AP/TS. And they did not even have the mandatory items required for the pilgrimage - the Irumudi kettu
& the black dress etc. Some of them have also said that they were unaware of the traditions at Sabari Mala, and I would like to believe them. Off course AP/TS is also a fertile ground of the Naxals, so don't know if they too tried to push in their activists. May be AP/TS police should make a check on the background of the women (just in case).
chetak wrote:Bindu Zachariah, who was being brought to #Sabarimala today, with group holding placards taunting Hindus. One placard reads " Why should God look at what is between my legs."
Kerala has a very bad "moral policing" culture and Bindu is now learning it the hard way. Not that I support such activities, but we cannot expect many people to be pacifists. There is already a video of how Bindu was taken out from the police station. If she had ran at the same speed, she for sure may even beat P.T Usha one day. Today her land lord has asked her to vacate the home. She was then moved under police escort to her friend's apartment. Other apartment owners did not want her there and she is now moved to an "undisclosed location". She works as a teacher and the school authorities have asked her not to come to the school some time. Sadly, her children have also been identified and now they too may face social ostracism.