Terroristan - October 8, 2018

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby suryag » 06 Nov 2018 20:20

Sir - his ban will be lifted in a month and we have created a separate TSP news article where he can post whatever news item he wants and leave this thread for more serious disucssions

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Postby Peregrine » 06 Nov 2018 20:27

Was Imran’s visit to China a failure? Yes. Here’s why - Adnan Rasool

As Prime Minister Imran Khan returns from his trip to China, one thing is becoming glaringly clear; the Pakistani state is completely clueless regarding the larger objectives of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).
To say that the prime minister’s trip was successful would be a flat out lie at this stage. What happened on this trip is a learning moment for the government of Pakistan that I fear will be forgotten.
The purpose of this article is not to simply point out the ineptness of our government but to analyse exactly what happened, what the problems are, the harsh realities and then detailing what needs to be done to address them.
In that spirit, we need to understand exactly happened in China on this visit vis-à-vis what the prime minister had claimed before leaving.
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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby salaam » 06 Nov 2018 20:46

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suryag wrote:Hello Falijee - despite repeated requests by various mods you keep posting random news articles, since you dont seem to listen to warning, please accept a 1 month ban from us


Sir! I plead to please lift ban on Falijee. We do read his news posts.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby rhytha » 06 Nov 2018 21:01

SBajwa wrote:
suryag wrote:Hello Falijee - despite repeated requests by various mods you keep posting random news articles, since you dont seem to listen to warning, please accept a 1 month ban from us


Sir! I plead to please lift ban on Falijee. We do read his news posts.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Gagan » 06 Nov 2018 21:41


This Adnan is a Phool
From the experts, the visit was 400% suck-cess-fool.
Just this image did phull paisa vasool : Dimran is even pointing to highlighted word on the screen
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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 06 Nov 2018 22:06

There was "Live" shown as "evil" too. All in all for 20sec. But good enough to share the truth

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 06 Nov 2018 22:10

Adnan rasool should quickly visit pinki/chitti peerni to see his future. Given the movie DimRan* was shown in China. Such journalists will be paid a visit by ISI. Who knows where he might end up. No embassy fistfights in Land of Pure (no money for paint/bonesaw).

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 06 Nov 2018 22:55

VICTORY!!

'Pakistan's immediate balance of payment crisis is over': finance minister
Foreign minister says Pakistan 'out of the woods' after China trip

Finance Minister Asad Umar on Tuesday claimed that Pakistan's "balance of payment crisis is over" and assured that China is committed to providing short-term relief to Pakistan as well — the modalities of which, he said, will be discussed in a new round of discussions in Beijing on Friday.
In this regard, we have received a commitment from the highest level.
"So this curiosity that the people have will also be resolved soon. We had told you about the $12bn financing gap, of which $6bn have come from Saudi Arabia, and the rest has come from China so the immediate balance of payment crisis of Pakistan has ended. I want to make that clear in unequivocal terms. We do not have any balance of payment crisis now. "
A decision in principle has been taken, but to discuss its modalities our contingent is going to Beijing on the 9th.
Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, meanwhile, claimed that the trip to China was "productive to the extent that we are out of the woods".


So, shouldn't this have been done before dimmy showed up in Begging to shake Eleven Gin Pegs' hand? Anyway, lets do a premature victory lap. Drum rolls, please.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1443976/pakis ... e-minister

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Peregrine » 06 Nov 2018 22:57

ArjunPandit wrote:Adnan rasool should quickly visit pinki/chitti peerni to see his future. Given the movie DimRan* was shown in China. Such journalists will be paid a visit by ISI. Who knows where he might end up. No embassy fistfights in Land of Pure (no money for paint/bonesaw).
Arjun Pundit Ji:
Adnan Rasool is currently doing his PhD in Political Science at Georgia State University and, I presume, is safe.

I am sure that the Dawn Group must have had this Article "Approved" by the Miltestablishment before putting it to the press.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 06 Nov 2018 23:12

Peregrine wrote:
ArjunPandit wrote:Adnan rasool should quickly visit pinki/chitti peerni to see his future. Given the movie DimRan* was shown in China. Such journalists will be paid a visit by ISI. Who knows where he might end up. No embassy fistfights in Land of Pure (no money for paint/bonesaw).
Arjun Pundit Ji:
Adnan Rasool is currently doing his PhD in Political Science at Georgia State University and, I presume, is safe.

I am sure that the Dawn Group must have had this Article "Approved" by the Miltestablishment before putting it to the press.

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Ok so it is the same old game only.
1. Lure the gulli bully with "attractive assets"
2. Open the doors of heaven and get money from him
3. Once in-vest-ed () scare the tenant about problems from aboriginals or original owners. Ask for protection and more money.
4. Find a new tenant

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby nithish » 06 Nov 2018 23:52

Data from 'almost all' Pakistani banks stolen, says FIA cyber-crime chief

ISLAMABAD: The Federal Investigation Agency’s (FIA) cyber-crime chief set off alarm bells on Tuesday when he revealed that customers’ data from "almost all major Pakistani banks" was stolen in a recent security breach.

"Almost all [Pakistani] banks' data has been breached. According to the reports that we have, most of the banks have been affected," Director of FIA Cyber-Crimes wing Captain (retd) Mohammad Shoaib told Geo News.

The FIA official's comments follow a recent report from Group-IB, a global cyber security firm, that hackers had released a new dump of Pakistani credit and debit cards on dark web forums.

By the end of last week, at least six Pakistani banks had suspended usage of their debit cards outside the country and blocked all international transactions on their cards.

Concerns about a breach of credit and debit card data spread in the banking circles, after a cyber attack on Bank Islami last week that siphoned off at least Rs2.6 million from its accounts.

The cyber-crime chief did not reveal exactly when the security breach took place that had affected most Pakistani banks.

“More than 100 cases [of cyber-attack] have been registered with the FIA and are under investigation. We have made several arrests in the case, including that of an international gang [last month],” Capt (retd) Shoaib said.

He said the FIA has written to the banks in question and is summoning the banks’ representatives to discuss the situation.

The official pointed out that banks are responsible for ensuring security of their clients’ data. If a bank’s security infrastructure is weak then the bank is to be held responsible for any breach, he added.

The cyber-crime chief further informed that a group of hackers was recently arrested which used to disguise themselves to con people.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Bart S » 07 Nov 2018 01:19

China and Saudi 'bailing out' Pakistan instead of the IMF is great news for anybody who wants to see Pakistan go further down the drain. The IMF and their conditions mandating genuine reform may have resulted in a genuine improvement in the structural elements of their economy. With the Saudi and Chini largesse it will be more of the same behaviour that resulted in them being in the current mess.

Pakistan is like a drug-addicted crackwh0re that just turned down a charitable hospital/rehab (IMF) in favour of their pimp cum drug dealer (China).

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Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Peregrine » 07 Nov 2018 01:41

Pakistan to begin talks with IMF over yet another bailout

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is set to begin nearly two weeks of talks with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) on Wednesday over what would be the country’s 13th IMF bailout since the 1980s to help it end a spiralling current account crisis.

Finance Minister Asad Umar says $12 billion is required immediately, a large chunk of which is expected to be drawn from the IMF.

“The initial three to four days (of the talks) are for technical discussions,” finance ministry spokesman Noor Ahmed told Reuters. “Thereafter, there will be policy dialogue on the specific contents of the programme.”

Pakistan announced last month a $6 billion assistance package from Saudi Arabia, split into $3 billion in foreign currency support and a further loan worth $3 billion in deferred payments for oil.

Govt hints at resorting to IMF bailout deal

The announcement followed Prime Minister Imran Khan’s visit to Riyadh last month for an investment conference that was boycotted by several other leaders following the killing of a Saudi journalist at the country’s consulate in Istanbul.

Khan had said before the visit that his country was “desperate” to shore up its foreign currency reserves, which are at a four-year low, equivalent to less than two months of imports and barely enough to make its debt repayments through the rest of the year.

“The support we received left and right will have an overall impact on our microeconomic numbers,” Ahmed said. “The programme that will be designed (with the IMF) will be stability focused … They will look at the numbers and take their decision.”

Pakistan’s current account deficit widened 43% to $18 billion in the fiscal year that ended in June, while the fiscal deficit has ballooned to 6.6% of gross domestic product.

IMF only viable option, PM Imran Khan told

Khan was in China last week where he held talks on economic help, but Beijing said additional talks were required.

China is Pakistan’s closest ally, but Khan’s newly-elected government has sought to re-think the two countries’ signature project, the $60 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which Beijing touts as the flagship infrastructure programme in its vast Belt and Road Initiative.

Khan appealed to “friendly countries” for assistance in an effort to avoid going to the IMF, or at least reduce the size of any bailout package.

Pakistani officials have been wary of the IMF imposing harsh conditions compared to the last bailout in 2013 when Islamabad was given repeated waivers and avoided serious reforms after receiving $6.7 billion. I. O. W. Terroristan made a Monkey of the I M F!

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Dumal » 07 Nov 2018 09:54

Peregrine wrote:
ArjunPandit wrote:Adnan rasool should quickly visit pinki/chitti peerni to see his future. Given the movie DimRan* was shown in China. Such journalists will be paid a visit by ISI. Who knows where he might end up. No embassy fistfights in Land of Pure (no money for paint/bonesaw).
Arjun Pundit Ji:
Adnan Rasool is currently doing his PhD in Political Science at Georgia State University and, I presume, is safe.

I am sure that the Dawn Group must have had this Article "Approved" by the Miltestablishment before putting it to the press.


I would go one step further and guess that he is a Chinese lifafa. The arguments he makes so forcefully are exactly what the Chinese would advise the higher-ups in Pakistan - know your place... work hard in obeisance to China as big bro... drink off the big fountain etc... no paki media or the military can get in the way of Chinese messaging especially after last week’s dressing down of Immy. Getting a paki to write it just makes it more palatable for the audience!

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Rahul M » 07 Nov 2018 14:02

Sbajwa ji and others who wanted the 1 month ban lifted on falijee(which isn't going to happen), please read this viewtopic.php?p=2302953#p2302953

any comments should go to the feedback thread.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby sudhan » 07 Nov 2018 19:23

So whats up with the Pakis on the monies?
I hear their FinMin say the BoP payment crisis is no more because they successfully begged 12 billion from Saudis and Cheenis, on the other hand there are reports stating the meetings with IMF for the bailouts start today..

Conphused

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby chetak » 07 Nov 2018 19:38

X posted from the neutering china thread

Meanwhile, back at the motheaten ranch, imran khan niazi slinks back home with his tail between his legs, conspicuously empty handed and in dire need of plenty of burnol application in well known and much favored paki places.

The prospect of confronting trump for the "facilitation" of a new IMF loan can only be so much more daunting than xi's fairly gentle rap on the knuckles.

Wonder what the bajwa doctrine has to say about such situations.

The baloon has well and truly been punctured so they will simply ratchet up their "diplomatic" support to the savages in cashmere to salvage their wounded pride


imran khan returns empty-handed from China: Xi Jinping forced to extend minimal aid to ally amid US trade war


imran khan returns empty-handed from China: Xi Jinping forced to extend minimal aid to ally amid US trade war


Nov 05, 2018

Imran Khan is back from his first official visit to China. Imran's nervousness was apparent in his first interview to the Chinese media in which he repeated himself several times over, and he certainly did not come across as the head of a sovereign state. For a person of Imran Khan’s temperament, a visit primarily structured around a begging bowl couldn't have been all that pleasant. For that is what it was in reality. Worse still, it was something which could hardly be hidden from the public gaze.

First, in the matter of the urgent need to get financial assistance, his meeting with Premier Li Keqiang was not propitious. Xinhua quoted him at a press conference as saying that China was willing to provide assistance to Pakistan “within our capability”, a statement unlikely to provide any relief to his guest. The same tone echoed in the following meeting with vice-foreign minister Kong Xuanyou where it was said that China had “made it clear in principle that (it) will provide necessary support and assistance to Pakistan in tiding over the current economic difficulties".


It was also made clear that the actual amount of "assistance" will be discussed in subsequent meetings. Not a word about the rumoured $6 billion package, which was doing the rounds in the Pakistan media.

The mood in Beijing was well encapsulated by Cheng Xiaohe, deputy director of the Centre for International Strategic Studies at Renmin University in the South China Morning Post. He rather tartly noted while China was willing to assist Pakistan, it was finally Islamabad’s responsibility to take care of its own people. Coming to the crux of the matter, he observed that China had a liquidity problem due to its trade war with the US. Therefore Pakistan “must seek all kinds of assistance”. That’s as crisp as it gets.


Second is the issue of the nature and goals of Chinese loans and project assistance. Imran is no fool, and even before his election to the top post, the newly-elected prime minister had been stressing that Chinese assistance must also address the basic concerns of the people in terms of cheap housing, basic utilities and other aspects. In this he may get some reprieve.

The joint statement stated "Chinese assistance will also be directed towards agriculture, education, health, poverty alleviation, safe drinking water, and vocational training". Even that quote has unwieldy strings attached. The "agriculture" aspect is entirely aimed at achieving Chinese goals. Remember the "CPEC Master Plan" leaked mid last year, which indicated that Chinese enterprises would operate their own farms across thousands of acres in Pakistan, with an end to end plan ranging from seeds, logistics and market. That's not assistance. That's a take over.

Third, is the most ticklish aspect of a "re-negotiation" of Chinese loans that Imran and his team have been batting for. Nothing at all emerged on that front, and presumably, is going to be part of future discussions. The boiler plate joint statement did have some effusive language on Pakistan’s search for peace, and appreciated Pakistan’s “engagement” and “adherence” to the guidelines of the Nuclear Suppliers Group. No promise of membership as claimed by Indian media. Worse, the rest of the statement essentially commits Pakistan to the Chinese view on the Iran-US nuclear deal, and demanded ( as before ) a greater Chinese role in SAARC. None of this addresses Pakistan’s immediate concerns.

In conclusion therefore, Imran returned home empty handed. As the The Dawn observed, it is surprising that a prime minister should visit an important ally with expectations that were clearly belied by reality. Normally, a dozen preparatory meetings should have laid the ground for such a visit and its expected outcomes. Instead, it appeared that the prime minister was negotiating his own way out of debt, that too at a time when his country was virtually on fire due to the antics of an extreme right wing group bent on violence. Somewhere, somebody blundered.

For India or for anyone with an interest in South Asian stability, there are some aspects of interest. One aspect is that US-China trade confrontation has led to a state where China is reluctant to extend even minimal aid ( not assistance, which has conditions) to a valuable ally. Trade sanctions are therefore clearly biting. That’s interesting to say the least.

A second aspect is that Pakistan will have now have to rely on the IMF for its largest ever loan package. While this is certain to bite, it is less dangerous than a Pakistan virtually bought up by China. That’s not in anyone’s best interests, least of all Islamabad itself. A third aspect is that the “higher than a mountain, and deeper than the seas” friendship between the two countries seems to have come up against the earthy taste of reality.

Beijing is clearly not falling over itself to oblige Pakistan in terms of generous aid or social projects to any great degree. That last aspect will play itself out to the full only in the coming months. Wait and watch. This is only likely to get more interesting.


Updated Date: Nov 05, 2018 15:34 PM

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby chetak » 07 Nov 2018 20:45

Well, at least PTV seems to be truthful and is putting out the unbiased news.

It looks like they may have fired the PTV head honcho.




Pakistan's state-run TV apologises for writing 'Begging' instead of 'Beijing' during telecast of Imran Khan's speech in China



Pakistan's state-run TV apologises for writing 'Begging' instead of 'Beijing' during telecast of Imran Khan's speech in China

Nov 05, 2018

Islamabad: Pakistan's state-run news channel has apologised after it ran "Begging" dateline instead of "Beijing" on screen during the live broadcast of Prime Minister Imran Khan's speech at the Central Party School of the ruling Communist Party of China.

Khan, who is on an official trip to China to secure an economic package for his cash-strapped country, was addressing a ceremony on Sunday at the Central Party School in Beijing which was shown live by the Pakistan Television Corporation (PTV).

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PTV's live feed had 'Begging' written on it. Twitter/ @omar_quraishi
PTV's live feed had 'Begging' written on it. Twitter/
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During Khan's speech, PTV had written "Begging" instead of "Beijing" in the top left corner of the screen. The word remained on screen for 20 seconds and was then changed.

"Today, during a live address of the Prime Minister during his ongoing visit to China, a typographical error took place, which remained on screen for 20 seconds & later removed. This incident is regrettable. Strict action has been initiated under rules against concerned officials," the official twitter handle of PTV News tweeted.

According to the local media, the gaffe has become particularly ironic since Khan is in China to secure a package from Beijing to try and stall the impending economic crisis Pakistan is facing.

Information and Broadcasting Minister Fawad Chaudhry has ordered an inquiry into the widely criticised dateline slug displayed by the PTV, The News reported.

The PTV's gaffe came under criticism on social media with screenshots shared with #begging becoming a top trend on Twitter in Pakistan.

During his visit, Prime Minister Khan held talks with President Xi Jinping and Premier Li Keqiang mainly focussing on seeking China's loans to tide over serious financial crisis faced by Pakistan.

China while stating that it would extend necessary support to Pakistan reportedly committed $6 billion funding but did not so far officially confirmed it.


Date: Nov 05, 2018

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby abhijitm » 07 Nov 2018 21:01

Notice how maulana sandwich murder news disappeared in pak media. Had it been afghan job pakis would be whining everyday. I am almost certain ISI dispatched him.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby ArjunPandit » 07 Nov 2018 23:15

abhijitm wrote:Notice how maulana sandwich murder news disappeared in pak media. Had it been afghan job pakis would be whining everyday. I am almost certain ISI dispatched him.

what could be the motive? Some twitter handles obliquely hinting role of an uncooked agency

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Vips » 08 Nov 2018 01:31

sudhan wrote:So whats up with the Pakis on the monies?
I hear their FinMin say the BoP payment crisis is no more because they successfully begged 12 billion from Saudis and Cheenis, on the other hand there are reports stating the meetings with IMF for the bailouts start today..

Conphused


Porkis need $26 Billion in the next 12 months to make payments for past bailouts and also to build up their reserves. Either that or else the Porki money will be reduced to clearing the brown shalwar's.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby SBajwa » 08 Nov 2018 02:20

https://www.dawn.com/news/1444009/playe ... cup-tauqir

Bakistani hockey team has not paid their players and they are begging for their daily wages. They might withdraw from world cup (scheduled to start in 2 weeks in Odisha)

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 08 Nov 2018 03:44

Govt will never agree to IMF terms in contradiction with Pakistan's well-being: Asad Umar

Finance Minister Asad Umar said on Wednesday that the government will be "requesting monetary assistance" from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to the tune of "at least $5 to $6 billion" while also stressing that the government will never agree to terms that are in contradiction with the country's well-being.
...the finance minister said that this will be the 19th time the fund will be approached for a financial bailout and vowed that the government sincerely aims for it to be the last.
"In securing assistance from friendly countries, we have reduced the burden an IMF programme would place on us", he said.


So, Assad mian, which one of your "benefactors" has backed out? Chinisthan or Saudis? If the "monetary assistance" from the IMF is $6Bn, then either the sauds or the chinis have backed out. Also, Assad mian, IMF loans are made in the country's well being, if you adhere to the program. You don't really want to take a loan from the chinis. Ask you lankan buddies.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1444191/govt- ... -asad-umar

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 08 Nov 2018 03:46

Asia Bibi freed from Jail week after acquittal in blasphemy case

Asia Bibi, a Christian woman who was acquitted last week by Supreme Court in blasphemy case, has been freed from a women's prison in Multan.
Asia's husband Ashiq Masih has already appealed to Britain and the United States to grant the family asylum, while her lawyer has fled to the Netherlands.


https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/39093 ... rom-multan

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby kancha » 08 Nov 2018 07:06

Tarek Fatah on Twitter (Link)

BBC Urdu reports that Pakistani Christian woman #AsiaBibi who spent 10 years on Death Row, has left jail and has been flown out of the country to a European country.

بریت کے بعد آسیہ بی بی ملتان جیل
سے رہا - BBC News اردو



And then a quick denial

BBC correspondent @adilshahzeb reports the the BBC Urdu news of #AsiaBibi’s release is not true.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 08 Nov 2018 07:17

It is my belief that the Pakis are enacting a big drama claiming that Saudis & Chinis are giving USD 6B each. This is to get less stringent terms from the IMF.

The more it changes, the more it remains the same.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Guddu » 08 Nov 2018 07:24

rhytha wrote:
SBajwa wrote:
Sir! I plead to please lift ban on Falijee. We do read his news posts.

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+4, why friendly fire, sir

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby la.khan » 08 Nov 2018 07:30

Vips wrote:
sudhan wrote:So whats up with the Pakis on the monies?
I hear their FinMin say the BoP payment crisis is no more because they successfully begged 12 billion from Saudis and Cheenis, on the other hand there are reports stating the meetings with IMF for the bailouts start today..

Conphused

Porkis need $26 Billion in the next 12 months to make payments for past bailouts and also to build up their reserves. Either that or else the Porki money will be reduced to clearing the brown shalwar's.

SSridhar wrote:It is my belief that the Pakis are enacting a big drama claiming that Saudis & Chinis are giving USD 6B each. This is to get less stringent terms from the IMF.

I don't think KSA or PRC will hand over USD12B to these Paki pig t*rds :P They may put it in some escrow account just to shore up Paki forex reserves (just for optics/dikhawa). As SSridhar said, this will help the Pakis talk back to the IMF when their loan application comes for processing.

And, do these Paki pig tur*s like to talk back or what, even with a begging bowl in hand!

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 08 Nov 2018 08:36

One indirect way the Chinese might help Pakistan is by postponing payments to them from Pakistan, allowing a grace period. The Chinese never part with cash. Even the Saudi money is spread over several years. These are not going to solve the balance of payments issue for the Pakis. They have to turn to the IMF. Anything else is false bravado. The IMF will see through the Paki game. They have exposed the Paki fraud a few times before.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 08 Nov 2018 08:38

Enemies in our midst. Paki wild imagination-fueled conspiracy theories run amok.

Enemies plan to foment violence in Balochistan, Senate panel told

Inspector General of the Balochistan Frontier Corps Maj Gen Nadeem Anjum informed a Senate panel on Wednesday that enemies of Pakistan planned to raise the level of violence in the province to force the United Nations to intervene and declare it an independent state.
Balochistan had become a battleground for a global game.
Things are being manipulated just like in Libya and Yemen.
However, our success is that the people are rejecting the conspiracy
Quaid-i-Azam spoke about the issues of Balochistan, but Britishers told him that Balochistan was an ordinary tehsil of Uttar Pradesh
People have rejected the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, Baloch Republican Army, Balochistan Liberation Army, Baloch Liberation Front and Lashkar-i-Balochistan.
There are thousands of success stories in Balochistan, but media only shows bomb blasts and terrorism. When people of the province hold rallies in favour of Pakistan, media highlights the stories regarding donkeys.
foreign media use Bollywood and Hollywood movies and claim that it is going on in Balochistan
The Indian intelligence agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), in collaboration with the Afghan intelligence agency was carrying out terrorist activities in Balochistan
He said Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi had himself admitted to his government’s involvement in Balochistan.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1444321/enemi ... panel-told

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 08 Nov 2018 08:40

SSridhar wrote:One indirect way the Chinese might help Pakistan is by postponing payments to them from Pakistan, allowing a grace period. ....The IMF will see through the Paki game. They have exposed the Paki fraud a few times before.


Chinis are afraid that if pakhanistan goes to the IMF for emergency loans, as part of the deal, pakis will have to disclose loan terms between the chinis and the pakis.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 08 Nov 2018 08:52

anupmisra wrote:
SSridhar wrote:One indirect way the Chinese might help Pakistan is by postponing payments to them from Pakistan, allowing a grace period. ....The IMF will see through the Paki game. They have exposed the Paki fraud a few times before.


Chinis are afraid that if pakhanistan goes to the IMF for emergency loans, as part of the deal, pakis will have to disclose loan terms between the chinis and the pakis.

Yes, China is also placed in a tough situation. You seek a friend like Pakistan, then you pay the price. It is time the Chinese start paying that price. They have had a relatively free, unencumbered run since 1963.

But, even then, China wouldn't give hard money, especially when they themselves are facing heavy headwinds. There is a serious erosion to their mountainous reserves and their woes are just about starting.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby SSridhar » 08 Nov 2018 08:57

And, the Chinese are going to extract another arm, a leg and a part of the torso for that. That's why they are saying that, "the actual amount of 'assistance' will be discussed in subsequent meetings". It would be interesting to see what it will be this time because Gwadar is already in the pocket. The coming weeks & months must be closely scrutinized here.

Added later: There is another option for Pakistan. Allah always opens a door when all others are shut. Mian Saqib Nisar can start crowd funding.

One more: The Pakistanis don't realize that they are considered mawali & ajlafi whether it is the deserts in the west or the imperial buildings of the Forbidden City.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby disha » 08 Nov 2018 09:52

^Bakistan can send some mawalis to the forbidden city and some ajlafis to the deserts in the west. A well provisioned container can do the job. And that is the trump card bakistan has. Export restrictions put by Bakistan on such containers containing mawaalis and ajlafis in lieu of payments from the desert sands and the forbidden city will be a win-win situation for the troika.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby Kashi » 08 Nov 2018 10:33

SSridhar wrote:Yes, China is also placed in a tough situation. You seek a friend like Pakistan, then you pay the price. It is time the Chinese start paying that price. They have had a relatively free, unencumbered run since 1963.


That could be because, while Chinese were playing tumble with the Bakis, Unkil (mostly) and KSA were footing the bill. Now suddenly Cheeni woke up and are left with a hefty invoice on the bedside.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby abhijitm » 08 Nov 2018 17:18

ArjunPandit wrote:
abhijitm wrote:Notice how maulana sandwich murder news disappeared in pak media. Had it been afghan job pakis would be whining everyday. I am almost certain ISI dispatched him.

what could be the motive? Some twitter handles obliquely hinting role of an uncooked agency

Americans approached him for mediation between them and Taliban. I am not sure they bypassed ISI, but he appeared amicable to the idea. Given that he still has influence within Taliban ranks ISI would not want to create another channel of negotiation. It is their stand from the beginning that any negotiation happen with Taliban they should be the one facilitating it. I think Americans tried to bypass ISI and maulana paid the price.

It would be interesting to see how Taliban reacts to this murder, afterall he was their founding father. Things would be more clear then.

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby abhijitm » 08 Nov 2018 17:25

Guddu wrote:
rhytha wrote:
+3

+4, why friendly fire, sir

Let this be less of news and more of discussion thread. It became opposite for quite some time. Lets try and see if the mods can bring back that balance. Can there be ban from thread instead of forum?

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby abhijitm » 08 Nov 2018 17:32

anupmisra wrote:Enemies in our midst. Paki wild imagination-fueled conspiracy theories run amok.

Enemies plan to foment violence in Balochistan, Senate panel told

Inspector General of the Balochistan Frontier Corps Maj Gen Nadeem Anjum informed a Senate panel on Wednesday that enemies of Pakistan planned to raise the level of violence in the province to force the United Nations to intervene and declare it an independent state.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1444321/enemi ... panel-told

This actually worries me. Sounds like pak army is planning new genocide of balochs and blame it on RAW!

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Re: Terroristan - October 8, 2018

Postby anupmisra » 08 Nov 2018 17:58

Three types of lies: Lies, damn lies and paki lies.

Govt will make an example of those who challenge the state's writ: minister of state

Minister of State for Interior Shehryar Afridi, while addressing the Senate on Thursday, warned that the government would make an example out of anyone who will try to take the law into their own hands.
Afridi said that the state had only signed the document because 'Naya Pakistan' does not believe in bloodshed.
The TLP had called off the protests after striking a deal with the government.
"In three days [of the protests], not a single drop of blood was spilled"
"The government will not use bullets against its own citizens. We will embrace our citizens and hold dialogues with them."


Sure! :rotfl:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1444361/govt- ... r-of-state


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