A couple of students with heena dyed beards are required at Bani Gala in Charsi's Naya Pakistan. Bushra Bibi removes her burqa only in a pious way....sudhan wrote:Dimran wants to provide Jobs for Madrassa students
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I wonder what jobs they are trained for..
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Pakis will always show their pakistaniyat.
Pakistan have alleged that the International Hockey Federation's (FIH) decision to hand a one-match suspension to defender Ammad Butt reeks of a conspiracy to weaken the team ahead of its crucial third and final Pool D match of the World Cup against the Netherlands. ( Paki Logic -We are the best if we loose it is not because we are below average but because of a conspiracy).
On Thursday, Butt was charged with "breach of code of conduct (deliberate, reckless or careless physical contact between players in the course of play)" during the team's 1-1 draw with Malaysia the previous day.
Pakistan's team manager and legendary World Cup winner Hassan Sardar decided to appeal the decision announced by Christian Deckenbrock, the Technical Delegate for the tournament.
This decision is taken by the Dutch Technical Delegate. It's a do-or-die match for them (against us), so that is why this harsh decision was taken," Sardar said. But there seems to be a problem with that accusation. Deckenbrock is not Dutch, he is German. The FIH website confirms that. And so have other sources.
Pakistan have alleged that the International Hockey Federation's (FIH) decision to hand a one-match suspension to defender Ammad Butt reeks of a conspiracy to weaken the team ahead of its crucial third and final Pool D match of the World Cup against the Netherlands. ( Paki Logic -We are the best if we loose it is not because we are below average but because of a conspiracy).
On Thursday, Butt was charged with "breach of code of conduct (deliberate, reckless or careless physical contact between players in the course of play)" during the team's 1-1 draw with Malaysia the previous day.
Pakistan's team manager and legendary World Cup winner Hassan Sardar decided to appeal the decision announced by Christian Deckenbrock, the Technical Delegate for the tournament.
This decision is taken by the Dutch Technical Delegate. It's a do-or-die match for them (against us), so that is why this harsh decision was taken," Sardar said. But there seems to be a problem with that accusation. Deckenbrock is not Dutch, he is German. The FIH website confirms that. And so have other sources.
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More Pakistaniyat on display during Hockey world cup.
[quote] Talking to the media after his team's practice session at the Kalinga Stadium on Friday, Tauqeer Dar, who is part of the Pakistan coaching staff confirmed the new controversy involving the assistant coach.
"One more inquiry about our (assistant) coach has been lodged by Hockey India. A new inquiry every day," Dar said sarcastically (But of course we are pakis - we cannot be wrong). "The last few days have been very hard. Most of our energy is being wasted on things other than sports."
"Danish and I sit up on the terrace and watch the match. We communicate via walkie-talkie with Hassan Sardar (manager) and Rehan Butt (coach). At half-time, I sent him with some notes to Hassan bhai. When he was coming back, he was stopped by the security and was asked to show his accreditation card. But the security people misbehaved with him." (So you break rules and then allege that the other party is at fault)
"He (Danish) asked for their names so that we could lodge a protest. After the game, I told them (security) that they should not have let us go into the stand before the match began in the first place. It is foolish that you are stopping us later, after half-time," Dar said. (Lahori Logic- If you commit mistake the second time it is not a mistake since it was not caught the first time) [/qiote]
All this is is deliberate behaviour form Pakis who know they are going to be whipped in all their matches and hence they are creating excuses and conspiracies to justify their lack of performance once they get back home.
[quote] Talking to the media after his team's practice session at the Kalinga Stadium on Friday, Tauqeer Dar, who is part of the Pakistan coaching staff confirmed the new controversy involving the assistant coach.
"One more inquiry about our (assistant) coach has been lodged by Hockey India. A new inquiry every day," Dar said sarcastically (But of course we are pakis - we cannot be wrong). "The last few days have been very hard. Most of our energy is being wasted on things other than sports."
"Danish and I sit up on the terrace and watch the match. We communicate via walkie-talkie with Hassan Sardar (manager) and Rehan Butt (coach). At half-time, I sent him with some notes to Hassan bhai. When he was coming back, he was stopped by the security and was asked to show his accreditation card. But the security people misbehaved with him." (So you break rules and then allege that the other party is at fault)
"He (Danish) asked for their names so that we could lodge a protest. After the game, I told them (security) that they should not have let us go into the stand before the match began in the first place. It is foolish that you are stopping us later, after half-time," Dar said. (Lahori Logic- If you commit mistake the second time it is not a mistake since it was not caught the first time) [/qiote]
All this is is deliberate behaviour form Pakis who know they are going to be whipped in all their matches and hence they are creating excuses and conspiracies to justify their lack of performance once they get back home.
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They sure love American catch phrase words don't they.
Their Federation chief had commented before the tournament that if the team managed to win even one single game then they would consider it the equivalent of winning the cup
Ex-Olympians want regime change at PHF after World Cup disaster
Their Federation chief had commented before the tournament that if the team managed to win even one single game then they would consider it the equivalent of winning the cup
Ex-Olympians want regime change at PHF after World Cup disaster
Holding the present Pakistan Hockey Federation officials responsible for national team’s miserable performance in the ongoing World Cup where the green-shirts were ruthlessly knocked out by Belgium, former Olympians Manzoor-ul-Hasan Senior and Samiullah Khan on Wednesday said regime change is mandatory for the revival of Pakistan hockey
and then this comment.. kind of explains how things have been brought to this stage by these delusional peoplePlaced in pool ‘D’, Mohammad Rizwan Senior-led Pakistan failed to record even a single win in the preliminary round. They lost the opener to Germany 1-0, barely drew with Malaysia 1-1 and were thrashed 5-1 by the Netherlands. And it was all over for Pakistan in the cross-over knockout match against Belgium who just toyed with the former four-time world champions to breeze into the quarter-finals with a facile 5-0 victory.
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Feeling sad about the plight of hockey in our republic... Even a very poor country like India made it to QF...
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And, now this.
Here's why Sunny Leone became one of 2018's most googled personalities in Pakistan
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/40539 ... n-pakistan
Here's why Sunny Leone became one of 2018's most googled personalities in Pakistan
Indian actor Sunny Leone scored herself the tenth spot on the most Googled personalities in Pakistan after her association with events which led to her making headlines a number of times throughout the year.
Why June? Summer bakation?The 37-year-old model’s searches were shown to be hitting a peak point during June...
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/40539 ... n-pakistan
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Check the gems of knowledge :
Firstly the guest invited to comment on the IT sector is himself not an IT guy but just a fellow TV anchor.
4:20 to 5:00 - Hum ne IT mein Tarakki kyun nahi ki - Hamare bare mein toh yeh kaha jaata hai ki hum sub se zyaada internet ka istemaal karne wale log hai. Pakistan is one of the top 10 countries where IT and smartphone is used.
5:15 to 7:30 : Ek Canadian pakistani IT expert ne mujhe kaha ki pakistan ke jitne youth hai aur hamari joh IT se familiarity hai (i kid you not) usse hum 50 Billion $ ki export kar sakte hain. Yahoo, Google, Youtube, Silicon Valley ki firms se meri baat hui hain. Ye company Pakistan ko support karne ko tayar hai
14:15 onwards : IT Policy banaye, IT park banaye, IT Export Board appoint karne se agle ek saal mein Paksitan ka IT exports $50 Billion ho sakta hain.
Certified C H U T I Y A S think that just by copying India's IT sector template they will also earn billions.They forget what is required is expertise, credibility and work ethic.
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Interestingly, Sunny Leone's search hits peak every year at around June - July in Pakistan. What's special about June-July? Ramzaan! If you check Ramzaan date each year and co-relate with Sunny's search trends, you will see Sunny's searches hit peak immediately after Ramzaan fasting month ends!anupmisra wrote:And, now this.
Here's why Sunny Leone became one of 2018's most googled personalities in Pakistan
Indian actor Sunny Leone scored herself the tenth spot on the most Googled personalities in Pakistan after her association with events which led to her making headlines a number of times throughout the year.Why June? Summer bakation?The 37-year-old model’s searches were shown to be hitting a peak point during June...
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Bingo! Makes sense. All that starvation and hunger during daytime combined with inherent paki IT skills (holding an ipad or phone with one hand ( ))....perfect storm.partha wrote:What's special about June-July? Ramzaan!anupmisra wrote:Here's why Sunny Leone became one of 2018's most googled personalities in Pakistan
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Oh ok. My guess was that goats weren't as cooperative in the summer... but hey what do I know?anupmisra wrote:Bingo! Makes sense. All that starvation and hunger during daytime combined with inherent paki IT skills (holding an ipad or phone with one hand ( ))....perfect storm.partha wrote:
What's special about June-July? Ramzaan!
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^^@vips,
Wonder what will they do if their US pm says, have a blast guys?
Wonder what will they do if their US pm says, have a blast guys?
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Wallah!anupmisra wrote:Bingo! Makes sense. All that starvation and hunger during daytime combined with inherent paki IT skills (holding an ipad or phone with one hand ( ))....perfect storm.
What wond-e-r-fool IT skills
Wond-e-r what they do with the other hand hain ji?
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Sidhu in trouble, again.
Navjot Singh Sidhu in trouble over black partridge 'gift' from Pakistan
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/40585 ... m-pakistan
Navjot Singh Sidhu in trouble over black partridge 'gift' from Pakistan
Will there now be a prisoner exchange? Sidhu for Kulbhushan? Hain?MUMBAI: Cricketer-turned-politician and Indian Punjab Minister Navjot Singh Sidhu has been named in a police complaint for keeping stuffed bird, a black partridge, gifted to him by a Pakistani journalist.
According to NDTV, Sandeep Jain, an animal activist in India, has filed a complaint demanding a probe into how the black partridge was brought from Pakistan and kept in India by Navjot Singh Sidhu for so long.
Sidhu was gifted the bird by Pakistani journalist during his visit to Pakistan to attend the launch of Kartarpur corridor.
The minister handed over the gifted bird to Punjab Chief Minister Amarinder Singh after his return from Pakistan.
"Under the 1972 Wildlife Protection Act's Schedule 4, it's illegal to keep an animal or a bird or their body parts without any permission. The punishment could be a jail term up to three years or Rs. 25,000 fine or both," Sandeep Jain claims, Indian media reported.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/40585 ... m-pakistan
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23 Indian passports go missing from Pakistan high commission, spark alarm - Sachin Parashar | TNN
NEW DELHI: Twenty three Indian passports have been reported missing allegedly from the Pakistan high commission, leading to a security scare here. The passports belonged to Sikh pilgrims who wanted to visit gurudwaras in Pakistan, including Kartarpur Sahib, where the ceremony for a religious corridor was held by the Pakistan government last month.
Several of these passport holders have filed an FIR with the police after which the matter was brought to the notice of the ministry of external affairs. The ministry has now moved to revoke all missing passports and has also taken up the issue with the Pakistan mission. Pakistan had issued visas to over 3,800 Indian Sikh pilgrims to participate in the 549th birth anniversary celebrations of Guru Nanak from November 21 to 30.
These 23 Sikhs who have lost their passports had sought visas and were supposed to travel with that group. Pakistan has denied that any of its officials was responsible for the missing passports.
All the 23 passports had been collected by a Delhi-based agent who claimed to have submitted the documents to the Pakistan high commission. He is later reported to have told Indian authorities that when he returned to the high commission to collect the passports, he was told by Pakistan officials that they didn’t have the documents. Surely the the Delhi-based agent has a Receipt from the Terroristani High Commission having received the 23 Pasports.
“This is a serious issue and we have taken all necessary action to prevent any misuse of these passports," said an official source.
While the Indian government has sought 24/7 access to Kartarpur Sahib for unrestricted number of pilgrims keeping in mind Sikh sentiments, its officials have privately spoken about the need to guard against possible efforts by Pakistan-based forces to use the corridor to further perpetuate terrorism. India has been particularly concerned about the display of Khalistan posters at Sikh shrines in Pakistan.
Whatever the outcome of this latest spat over the mystery of the missing passports, it is certain to add another layer to the already complex Kartarpur story.
Rejecting what it has described as 'negative propaganda' in India, Islamabad has said that its decision to open the Kartarpur corridor was solely in deference to the Sikh sentiments and keeping in mind the forthcoming 550th birth anniversary of Guru Nanak. Islamabad has described the opening of the corridor as a moment of hope in Indo-Pak relations and expressed hope that the Kartarpur spirit would be carried forward. Chance would be a fine thing!
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23 Indian passports go missing from Pakistan high commission, spark alarm - Sachin Parashar | TNN
NEW DELHI: Twenty three Indian passports have been reported missing allegedly from the Pakistan high commission, leading to a security scare here. The passports belonged to Sikh pilgrims who wanted to visit gurudwaras in Pakistan, including Kartarpur Sahib, where the ceremony for a religious corridor was held by the Pakistan government last month.
Several of these passport holders have filed an FIR with the police after which the matter was brought to the notice of the ministry of external affairs. The ministry has now moved to revoke all missing passports and has also taken up the issue with the Pakistan mission. Pakistan had issued visas to over 3,800 Indian Sikh pilgrims to participate in the 549th birth anniversary celebrations of Guru Nanak from November 21 to 30.
These 23 Sikhs who have lost their passports had sought visas and were supposed to travel with that group. Pakistan has denied that any of its officials was responsible for the missing passports.
All the 23 passports had been collected by a Delhi-based agent who claimed to have submitted the documents to the Pakistan high commission. He is later reported to have told Indian authorities that when he returned to the high commission to collect the passports, he was told by Pakistan officials that they didn’t have the documents. Surely the the Delhi-based agent has a Receipt from the Terroristani High Commission having received the 23 Pasports.
“This is a serious issue and we have taken all necessary action to prevent any misuse of these passports," said an official source.
While the Indian government has sought 24/7 access to Kartarpur Sahib for unrestricted number of pilgrims keeping in mind Sikh sentiments, its officials have privately spoken about the need to guard against possible efforts by Pakistan-based forces to use the corridor to further perpetuate terrorism. India has been particularly concerned about the display of Khalistan posters at Sikh shrines in Pakistan.
Whatever the outcome of this latest spat over the mystery of the missing passports, it is certain to add another layer to the already complex Kartarpur story.
Rejecting what it has described as 'negative propaganda' in India, Islamabad has said that its decision to open the Kartarpur corridor was solely in deference to the Sikh sentiments and keeping in mind the forthcoming 550th birth anniversary of Guru Nanak. Islamabad has described the opening of the corridor as a moment of hope in Indo-Pak relations and expressed hope that the Kartarpur spirit would be carried forward. Chance would be a fine thing!
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Newly constructed building at Islamabad International Airport starts caving in
AoA!
https://www.dawn.com/news/1451490/newly ... -caving-in
AoA!
After the customs cargo (airfreight unit) building at the Islamabad International Airport (IIA) started caving in, the authorities have decided to shift all staff and workers to an alternative place.
Initially, small cracks appeared on the walls along with a leakage from the drain in the office of a senior officer and other rooms but the cracks started increasing day by day. A portion of the building is now caving in.
So, first there was leaking water, then wild dogs, snakes, quarreling politicians who burnt their luggage, garbage strewn all over, djinns and now this. What else is left? Fire?Additional Collector Customs Nisar Ahmed ...confirmed that cracks in the building had widened and the building was caving in from one side making it no longer safe to work in.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1451490/newly ... -caving-in
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Resolution submitted in Punjab assembly to summon Google CEO and ask him to explain why search for 'bhikari' shows PM Imran Khan's photo. -Naila Inayat
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I recently met a Pakistani who was calling Niazi a bhikari
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The myths of December - Dr Murad Ali
The month of December has always been a time to reflect upon our past, or to be precise, on the collective magnificent follies that we have so eagerly been part of.
While it used to be only December 16 that was the day of sombre thinking, now the list goes on to include the tragic assassination of Benazir Bhutto, Bashir Bilour and of course the great tragedy of the APS attack where over 140 school-going children and their teachers were mercilessly massacred. Of the latter three incidents, we do not know more than the fact that some unnamed terrorists carried out these heinous acts of terrorism.
However, a lot has been written on the nature and role of national and international actors in the debacle of Dhaka. Also, like several national and international villains, the US is also considered to have not played its due role as expected by Pakistan. It is a dominant perception in Pakistan that the US ditched its close ally and could not come to its rescue when the country needed it most. As in the aftermath of the 1965 Indo-Pak war, the US enforced sanctions on both India and Pakistan during the 1971 war.
It was in this context that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto wrote that ‘the United States imposed an embargo on the delivery of military equipment to Pakistan when the country was struggling for its survival against an aggressor five times its size. For three years, a complete ban was placed on the sale of weapons and spare parts to Pakistan. The government of a country in three military alliances had to run from pillar to post in search of armaments and spare parts, from black market centres and notorious arms peddlers’.
Well, this was and it is still an overriding perception among laypersons and the educated class, including academia and researchers. Pakistan was in three military alliances with the US, including the Mutual Defence Assistance Agreement (MDA, signed in May 1954), the Southeast Asia Treaty Organisation (Seato, 1954) and the US-sponsored Baghdad Pact (signed in 1955). In 1958, its name was changed to Cento and it comprised Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan and Great Britain. To be honest, the main impetus behind these treaties was to contain rising Soviet influence in the adjoining regions and beyond and not to bolster Pakistan’s military prowess vis-à-vis India.
Article I of the MDA very explicitly states what the US expected of Pakistan and what the latter was not supposed to do. The agreement asserts: “The government of the United States will make available to the government of Pakistan such equipment, materials, services or other assistance as the government of the United States may authorize in accordance with such terms and conditions as may be agreed”. Para 2 of Article I clarifies that “The government of Pakistan will use this assistance exclusively to maintain its internal security, its legitimate self-defense, or to permit it to participate in the defense of the area, or in UN collective security arrangements and measures, and Pakistan will not undertake any act of aggression against any other nation. The government of Pakistan will not, without the prior agreement of the government of the United States, devote such assistance to purposes other than those for which it was furnished” (italicized for emphasis).
So, Pakistan’s leadership was either not good at English language or simply ignored this in the hope that the US would oblige it irrespective of Pakistan’s follies. Although the US neither helped India nor Pakistan in these testing times, the latter felt that – being a close ally – the US should not have let them down. Although the US imposed sanctions on both Pakistan and India, Pakistan suffered more because it was relying on weapons imported from the US, unlike India which was importing huge arms from the USSR. As a result of the US arms embargo, Pakistan also responded by closing military bases on its soil used by the US for the surveillance of the USSR in the region.
Pakistan felt betrayed when the US avoided to directly involving in the India-Pakistan controversy. However, to assume that Pakistan was let down by the US is perhaps showing one side of the picture. The reality is that while directing Task Force 74 with the USS Enterprise into the Bay of Bengal during the 1971 crisis, US President Nixon sent a loud message to India not to stretch the war to Pakistan’s western borders and attack the mainland West Pakistan. In Pakistan, though, a common perception is that the US did not overtly oppose or stop India from dismembering Pakistan as the USS Enterprise did not arrive in time to stop Indian aggression.
The kind of cordial relationship Islamabad had with Washington during those years, it is argued that the US could not offer enough help to Pakistan to save it from defeat at the hands of India. Although the US could not prevent India from splitting the eastern wing of Pakistan; by sending a US naval ship the US administration also deterred India from carrying out a full-fledged attack on Pakistan’s eastern borders. If that had happened, Pakistan could have faced a complete defeat on its eastern frontiers. Therefore, although the US did not play a more vital role which Pakistan might have expected, to some extent the gestures given to India in the form of sending the naval fleet to the Bay of Bengal at least saved Pakistan from complete defeat at the hands of its arch rival.
Have we learnt anything from such episodes? Does the country’s leadership make a thorough cost-benefit analysis before joining alliances with external powers? Whether it was during the cold-war period or in the so-called ‘war on terror’, Pakistan has paid and continues to pay a heavy price for involving itself in others’ wars. And if the country is eager to do so again and again if it is offered a better price tag, then it is not right to scapegoat other countries for its own failures. There is always a unique sense of satisfaction when one absolves oneself of all the wrongs and puts the whole responsibility of failures on others.
The US has been doing this too as it wrongly blames Pakistan for the Afghan quagmire. In the same way, Pakistan itself was largely responsible for the Dhaka disaster. The US could not help Pakistan as it should have, but under the treaties signed, the US had not committed either. Under US-carved alliances involving Pakistan, American aid to Pakistan was premised on the ground of protecting US as well as those of Pakistan’s interests pertaining to the expansion of communism and the rising influence of the Soviets. US economic and military assistance was not aimed at making Pakistan a military power to challenge India’s security superiority. Pakistan wrongly thought otherwise and paid a huge price for that by losing half of the country in the process.
The writer holds a PhD from Massey University, New Zealand. He teaches at the University of Malakand. - Email: muradali.uom@gmail.com
Cheers
The myths of December - Dr Murad Ali
The month of December has always been a time to reflect upon our past, or to be precise, on the collective magnificent follies that we have so eagerly been part of.
While it used to be only December 16 that was the day of sombre thinking, now the list goes on to include the tragic assassination of Benazir Bhutto, Bashir Bilour and of course the great tragedy of the APS attack where over 140 school-going children and their teachers were mercilessly massacred. Of the latter three incidents, we do not know more than the fact that some unnamed terrorists carried out these heinous acts of terrorism.
However, a lot has been written on the nature and role of national and international actors in the debacle of Dhaka. Also, like several national and international villains, the US is also considered to have not played its due role as expected by Pakistan. It is a dominant perception in Pakistan that the US ditched its close ally and could not come to its rescue when the country needed it most. As in the aftermath of the 1965 Indo-Pak war, the US enforced sanctions on both India and Pakistan during the 1971 war.
It was in this context that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto wrote that ‘the United States imposed an embargo on the delivery of military equipment to Pakistan when the country was struggling for its survival against an aggressor five times its size. For three years, a complete ban was placed on the sale of weapons and spare parts to Pakistan. The government of a country in three military alliances had to run from pillar to post in search of armaments and spare parts, from black market centres and notorious arms peddlers’.
Well, this was and it is still an overriding perception among laypersons and the educated class, including academia and researchers. Pakistan was in three military alliances with the US, including the Mutual Defence Assistance Agreement (MDA, signed in May 1954), the Southeast Asia Treaty Organisation (Seato, 1954) and the US-sponsored Baghdad Pact (signed in 1955). In 1958, its name was changed to Cento and it comprised Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan and Great Britain. To be honest, the main impetus behind these treaties was to contain rising Soviet influence in the adjoining regions and beyond and not to bolster Pakistan’s military prowess vis-à-vis India.
Article I of the MDA very explicitly states what the US expected of Pakistan and what the latter was not supposed to do. The agreement asserts: “The government of the United States will make available to the government of Pakistan such equipment, materials, services or other assistance as the government of the United States may authorize in accordance with such terms and conditions as may be agreed”. Para 2 of Article I clarifies that “The government of Pakistan will use this assistance exclusively to maintain its internal security, its legitimate self-defense, or to permit it to participate in the defense of the area, or in UN collective security arrangements and measures, and Pakistan will not undertake any act of aggression against any other nation. The government of Pakistan will not, without the prior agreement of the government of the United States, devote such assistance to purposes other than those for which it was furnished” (italicized for emphasis).
So, Pakistan’s leadership was either not good at English language or simply ignored this in the hope that the US would oblige it irrespective of Pakistan’s follies. Although the US neither helped India nor Pakistan in these testing times, the latter felt that – being a close ally – the US should not have let them down. Although the US imposed sanctions on both Pakistan and India, Pakistan suffered more because it was relying on weapons imported from the US, unlike India which was importing huge arms from the USSR. As a result of the US arms embargo, Pakistan also responded by closing military bases on its soil used by the US for the surveillance of the USSR in the region.
Pakistan felt betrayed when the US avoided to directly involving in the India-Pakistan controversy. However, to assume that Pakistan was let down by the US is perhaps showing one side of the picture. The reality is that while directing Task Force 74 with the USS Enterprise into the Bay of Bengal during the 1971 crisis, US President Nixon sent a loud message to India not to stretch the war to Pakistan’s western borders and attack the mainland West Pakistan. In Pakistan, though, a common perception is that the US did not overtly oppose or stop India from dismembering Pakistan as the USS Enterprise did not arrive in time to stop Indian aggression.
The kind of cordial relationship Islamabad had with Washington during those years, it is argued that the US could not offer enough help to Pakistan to save it from defeat at the hands of India. Although the US could not prevent India from splitting the eastern wing of Pakistan; by sending a US naval ship the US administration also deterred India from carrying out a full-fledged attack on Pakistan’s eastern borders. If that had happened, Pakistan could have faced a complete defeat on its eastern frontiers. Therefore, although the US did not play a more vital role which Pakistan might have expected, to some extent the gestures given to India in the form of sending the naval fleet to the Bay of Bengal at least saved Pakistan from complete defeat at the hands of its arch rival.
Have we learnt anything from such episodes? Does the country’s leadership make a thorough cost-benefit analysis before joining alliances with external powers? Whether it was during the cold-war period or in the so-called ‘war on terror’, Pakistan has paid and continues to pay a heavy price for involving itself in others’ wars. And if the country is eager to do so again and again if it is offered a better price tag, then it is not right to scapegoat other countries for its own failures. There is always a unique sense of satisfaction when one absolves oneself of all the wrongs and puts the whole responsibility of failures on others.
The US has been doing this too as it wrongly blames Pakistan for the Afghan quagmire. In the same way, Pakistan itself was largely responsible for the Dhaka disaster. The US could not help Pakistan as it should have, but under the treaties signed, the US had not committed either. Under US-carved alliances involving Pakistan, American aid to Pakistan was premised on the ground of protecting US as well as those of Pakistan’s interests pertaining to the expansion of communism and the rising influence of the Soviets. US economic and military assistance was not aimed at making Pakistan a military power to challenge India’s security superiority. Pakistan wrongly thought otherwise and paid a huge price for that by losing half of the country in the process.
The writer holds a PhD from Massey University, New Zealand. He teaches at the University of Malakand. - Email: muradali.uom@gmail.com
Cheers
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25pc increase in refusals recorded during anti-polio drive in Islamabad
After a campaign launched against polio vaccinations on social media, a 25pc increase in refusals was recorded during the recent polio campaign in the federal capital, which started Dec 10.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1451856/25pc- ... -islamabad“Most of the refusals were from educated people who are active on social media. During the last polio campaign, we had 69 refusals from across the city and this time we have just as many in the Defence Housing Authority alone. Parents refused to vaccinate their children and misbehaved with polio teams,” focal person for polio in Islamabad, Dr Asif Rahim told Dawn.
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^^whats against this polio drive? never got the reason behind it....can't be the case of religion as many me countries have eliminated this scourge
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This is one somber, depressing meeting. Who died?
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All is well.
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Bakistaniyat, in full display.
Hotel agents harass tourist couple in Murree, video goes viral
All is well that (supposedly will) ends well.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/40709 ... kes-notice
Hotel agents harass tourist couple in Murree, video goes viral
As informed by the eyewitnesses, the incident emerged when some hotel agents catcalled at a woman tourist near Grand Post Office (GPO) Chowk while she was walking on Murree’s Mall Road around 6.30 pm with her husband.
However, matters went worse when the husband requested the agents to refrain from the inappropriate behaviour, against which the harassers started using force.
even onlookers and the traffic police officers present at the scene, instead of diffusing the situation, played complicit in the brawl
Moreover, according to the Station House Officer (SHO) at the Murree police station, the alleged harassers have been identified and will soon be detained.
All is well that (supposedly will) ends well.
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No Biskoots!!! Or only few and were eaten by select few!anupmisra wrote:This is one somber, depressing meeting. Who died?
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Nawaz Sharif's guards beat cameraman to the ground
A cameraman of a private media outlet was beaten by former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s guards outside Parliament house on Monday.
Identified as Wajid Ali, the cameraman was later seen getting beaten to the ground by the guard who chased him through the crowd while another kicked him in the face.
The video goes on to show the victim lying on the ground unconscious bleeding from the nose and mouth.
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Paki record of declaring victory in defeat is proudly carried on
The certified C H U T I Y A SPCB’s response to ICC verdict on BCCI claims of legal costs stated: "The PCB notes the ICC Dispute Panel’s decision on BCCI’s claims for their legal expense incurred on the PCB-BCCI dispute. The award of significantly lesser costs than claimed by BCCI reflects that PCB's case had merits.
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Faisal Raza abdi research about moon with NASA finds proof of the PBUH splitting the moon. Also Niel Armstrong was a muslim after hearing the adhan, while walking on the Moon
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OMGManish_P wrote:Faisal Raza abdi research about moon with NASA finds proof of the PBUH splitting the moon. Also Niel Armstrong was a muslim after hearing the adhan, while walking on the Moon
But even more hilarious (or troubling) are the sincere comments (including some by IMs) praising him
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Manish_P wrote:Faisal Raza abdi research about moon with NASA finds proof of the PBUH splitting the moon. Also Niel Armstrong was a muslim after hearing the adhan, while walking on the Moon
Neil Armstrong rejected that he heard any sound on moon. Check this letter.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/images/thumb ... rtment.jpg
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^ Kufr, That is due to saazish and YYY conspiracy. After all Oracle Abdi has spoken and researched with NASA
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Just check what this moron had said about Gwadar Oil City. He had said Gwadar will overtake Dubai, Shanghai and Singapore as the premier port in Asia. Business men from all over the world will not be able to afford not to be in Gwadar. He said like GCC countries Pakistan should introduce the concept of Kafala system whereby pakistan citizens should be given the right to sponsor businessmen who will be fighting to get in to Gwadar.
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Vips Ji :Vips wrote:Just check what this moron had said about Gwadar Oil City. He had said Gwadar will overtake Dubai, Shanghai and Singapore as the premier port in Asia. Business men from all over the world will not be able to afford not to be in Gwadar. He said like GCC countries Pakistan should introduce the concept of Kafala system whereby pakistan citizens should be given the right to sponsor businessmen who will be fighting to get in to Gwadar.
The Terroristanis dream of having Gwadar reach the Heights of Continental Ports like Hamburg, Rotterdam and Antwerp.
The importance of Hamburg, Rotterdam and Antwerp lies in the fact that they serve the vast Industrial Hinterland of Europe as far as Hungary, Chech, Slovakia, Hungary, Switzerland etc. by the European Rivers "emptying" into the Coastal States of Western European by way f the North Sea as well as the Baltic Sea.
As you will note that the Hinterland of Terroristan is Afghanistan, Xinjiang and possibly some of the Central Asian Republics.
However the Central Asian Republics are Served - of course through connections - to the Siberian Railway and now the Chinese Railway System.
As such Gwadar is not going to be like any of the European Ports or for that matter the Black Sea Ports which are an outlet for the Central Asian Republics Republics.
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Vips Ji :Vips wrote:Just check what this moron had said about Gwadar Oil City. He had said Gwadar will overtake Dubai, Shanghai and Singapore as the premier port in Asia. Business men from all over the world will not be able to afford not to be in Gwadar. He said like GCC countries Pakistan should introduce the concept of Kafala system whereby pakistan citizens should be given the right to sponsor businessmen who will be fighting to get in to Gwadar.
Please let me have the URL for the above discussion on Gwadar Oil City,
Thanks in Advance.
Cheers
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Peregrine wrote:Vips Ji :Vips wrote:Just check what this moron had said about Gwadar Oil City. He had said Gwadar will overtake Dubai, Shanghai and Singapore as the premier port in Asia. Business men from all over the world will not be able to afford not to be in Gwadar. He said like GCC countries Pakistan should introduce the concept of Kafala system whereby pakistan citizens should be given the right to sponsor businessmen who will be fighting to get in to Gwadar.
Please let me have the URL for the above discussion on Gwadar Oil City,
Thanks in Advance.
Cheers
https://youtu.be/S6tzflQzii8
https://youtu.be/VbZU6OqDZoY
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Isn't he the one who was hyperventilating about dollars overflowing the drains of Pakistan once CPEC was fully realised?Manish_P wrote:Faisal Raza abdi research about moon with NASA finds proof of the PBUH splitting the moon. Also Niel Armstrong was a muslim after hearing the adhan, while walking on the Moon
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Yes, he was.
That was an awesome video. Comedy gold.
That was an awesome video. Comedy gold.
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For the 1st video, I was looking at Rauf Klasra. That poor guy was in a world of pain and probably playing candy crush on his phone.
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souravB wrote:For the 1st video, I was looking at Rauf Klasra. That poor guy was in a world of pain and probably playing candy crush on his phone.
"Pakistaniyon will wipe their noses with Dallars! My grantee. Take it from me in writing"
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Firm owned by PM aide set to win Rs300b Mohmand Dam contract.
Business as usual in Charsi's Naya Pakistan
company owned by an adviser to the prime minister is set to win a Rs300-billion contract for the construction of Mohmand Dam as it is the sole bidder – a scenario which may spark public debate.
The Mohmand Dam project was initiated by the previous Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz government in 2017. The Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) issued tender documents for construction of the main dam in November 2017 and in response two bidders – CGGC-Descon joint venture and FWO-PC joint venture – submitted bids by June 26, 2018 – a day after general elections in the country.
Descon, which is owned by Adviser to Prime Minister on Commerce Abdul Razak Dawood, submitted the bid as a joint-venture partner of China’s CGGC. Wapda rejected the offer of the other bidder during technical evaluation and on Monday it opened financial bid of the Descon joint venture.
When contacted, a Wapda spokesperson said the financial bid had been opened and decision on awarding the contract would be taken after its evaluation in line with prescribed rules and regulations.
When asked whether Public Procurement Regulatory Authority (PPRA) rules allowed the acceptance of the bid of a single bidder, he replied that the decision would be taken in accordance with the rules.
A total of Rs8.9 billion has been collected so far in the Supreme Court of Pakistan and Prime Minister’s Diamer-Bhasha and Mohmand Dam Fund, which indicates the country’s keen interest in building dams to overcome acute water scarcity.
“The contract may be awarded without competition to the sole bidder and it can cause a significant loss to the national exchequer,” commented an official.
Officials point out that for a long time there have been no full-time member water and member power in Wapda – the two key senior positions which need to be filled for making decisions while reviewing all technicalities. These posts have been filled on ad hoc basis.
Apart from these, there had also been no full-time general manager for hydro planning and general manager for the Central Contract Cell till December 28, 2018.
Officials suggest that the government deliberately keeps positions of members vacant and empowers the chairman to give key officials additional charge of these posts. Hence, the evaluation process and decision on the award of contracts are controlled by some desired officials having additional charge, they say.
Business as usual in Charsi's Naya Pakistan
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Surgical strikes decision was a “big risk” but I was more concerned about safety of soldiers
NEW DELHI: "Come back before sunrise, irrespective of the success or failure of the mission".
This was the message of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the Indian Army Special
Forces' commandos who went across the Line of Control on September 28, 2016 to carry out surgical strikes at terrorist campsin Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir.
Modi, while revealing details of the military action for the first time, told ANI in an interview that the date of the attack was changed twice, keeping in mind the safety and security of the troops.
The strikes were carried out days after terrorists attacked an Army camp in Uri in Kashmir, killing 20 soldiers.
The Prime Minister said the surgical strikes were planned as there was a "rage" building up within him as well as the Army after soldiers were burnt alive in the terror attack in Uri.
"I gave clear orders that whether you get success or failure, don't think about that but come back before sunrise. Don't fall for the lure and prolong it (the operation)," he said, turning a bit emotional while discussing that operation.
Emphasising that he was determined to see that none of the soldiers died in the operation, he said he had told them that they must return before sunrise even if they fail.
The Prime Minister revealed that he was keeping tab of the risky operation throughout the night and was getting live information.
"I knew it was a big risk. I never care about any political risk to me. The biggest consideration for me was the safety of our soldiers," he said.
He said he didn't want any harm to come to the commandos who were "willing to sacrifice their lives on our word."
The Prime Minister disclosed that the commandos for the operation were chosen carefully and then imparted special training. Whatever equipment was required, it was arranged for them, he said.
He said he was "anxious" throughout the time the soldiers were on the other side of the LoC and the moments became "extremely difficult" when the information flow stopped for about an hour in the morning.
"In the morning, information flow stopped, for an hour. My anxiety increased. Even one hour after sunrise. That time was extremely difficult for me... Then came the information that they have not reached back yet but two-three units have reached the safe zone, so don't worry. But I said I won't be fine till the last man returns," said.
On politicisation of the surgical strikes, the Prime Minister said it was not done by the government but by opposition parties, which "raised questions" over the military action and cited the Pakistani version to "lend weight to their doubts".
The Prime Minister said that even before the country was informed about the strikes, Pakistan was told about it.
"An Army officer apprised the nation (India) of the operation. That information was given to Pakistan as well... But it is unfortunate for the country that the same day (of the surgical strike), leaders of some parties raised doubts over the surgical strikes," Modi said.
"It was necessary for Pakistan to speak like this (to deny), to keep their morale intact. But what Pakistan was saying, was being said here too. To lend weight to their views, they were citing Pakistani version. Politicisation started from that point," he added.
Delhi CM and AAP supremo Arvind Kejriwal in a series of tweets post surgical strikes raised doubts over the veracity of the government's claims. Kejriwal said Pakistan had invited foreign journaliststo their side of the border to ascertain claims of a surgical strike. "BJP I believe you. But international media publishing Pak propaganda that no strike took place. Lets expose Pak propaganda," tweeted Arvind Kejriwal on October 4th, 2016.
PM Modi added that the opposition leaders were speaking "rubbish" and "those who raised doubts over the Army action, were wrong and such politicisation should not have happened".
Modi said lauding the valour of soldiers from all operations including the 1962 war with China was the duty of the government and citizens.
"If we don't hail the valour of those who stake their lives for the country, then who will? So praising the Army should not be considered as politicisation," he said
The Prime Minister was asked whether the objectives of the surgical strikes were met, considering that cross-LoC attacks still continue in Kashmir.
In response, he said he would not like to discuss the issue in open domain.
But then he went on to add, "Ek ladai se Pakistan sudhar jayega, yeh sochne mein bahut badi galti hogi. Pakistan ko sudarne mein abhi aur samay lagega (It will be a big mistake to think that Pakistan will start behaving after one fight. It will take a long time for Pakistan to start behaving).
Talking about the Uri attack, Modi said, "That incident made me restless and there was rage within me. I had gone to Kerala and made a mention of this. Because I could not stop myself.
Modi said that while talking to the Army, he realised that they wanted justice for their martyred soldiers and the government gave them the "free hand" to plan and execute the surgical strikes.
Special training was imparted to the commandos and secrecy was maintained.
"The topography and obstacles were kept in consideration... It was a learning experience for me as well," Modi said.
In September 2016, terrorists of Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed entered the Army camp in Uri near the Line of Control and killed 20 soldiers in the attack.
In retaliation, the Indian Army troops including the commandos from various units of the Para (Special Forces) units deployed in Jammu and Kashmir carried out raids across the border on multiple targets.
All these targets were launch pads for terrorists for infiltrating into Jammu and Kashmir for carrying out attacks against military and civilian targets.
Though the security forces are not sure about the exact number of casualties on the Pakistan side but based on post-operation intercepts and movements, it is believed that it had suffered around 50 casualties including its regular Army.
From the Indian side, only one soldier had suffered injury due to a personnel mine explosion while returning from the operation.
Cheers
Surgical strikes decision was a “big risk” but I was more concerned about safety of soldiers
NEW DELHI: "Come back before sunrise, irrespective of the success or failure of the mission".
This was the message of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the Indian Army Special
Forces' commandos who went across the Line of Control on September 28, 2016 to carry out surgical strikes at terrorist campsin Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir.
Modi, while revealing details of the military action for the first time, told ANI in an interview that the date of the attack was changed twice, keeping in mind the safety and security of the troops.
The strikes were carried out days after terrorists attacked an Army camp in Uri in Kashmir, killing 20 soldiers.
The Prime Minister said the surgical strikes were planned as there was a "rage" building up within him as well as the Army after soldiers were burnt alive in the terror attack in Uri.
"I gave clear orders that whether you get success or failure, don't think about that but come back before sunrise. Don't fall for the lure and prolong it (the operation)," he said, turning a bit emotional while discussing that operation.
Emphasising that he was determined to see that none of the soldiers died in the operation, he said he had told them that they must return before sunrise even if they fail.
The Prime Minister revealed that he was keeping tab of the risky operation throughout the night and was getting live information.
"I knew it was a big risk. I never care about any political risk to me. The biggest consideration for me was the safety of our soldiers," he said.
He said he didn't want any harm to come to the commandos who were "willing to sacrifice their lives on our word."
The Prime Minister disclosed that the commandos for the operation were chosen carefully and then imparted special training. Whatever equipment was required, it was arranged for them, he said.
He said he was "anxious" throughout the time the soldiers were on the other side of the LoC and the moments became "extremely difficult" when the information flow stopped for about an hour in the morning.
"In the morning, information flow stopped, for an hour. My anxiety increased. Even one hour after sunrise. That time was extremely difficult for me... Then came the information that they have not reached back yet but two-three units have reached the safe zone, so don't worry. But I said I won't be fine till the last man returns," said.
On politicisation of the surgical strikes, the Prime Minister said it was not done by the government but by opposition parties, which "raised questions" over the military action and cited the Pakistani version to "lend weight to their doubts".
The Prime Minister said that even before the country was informed about the strikes, Pakistan was told about it.
"An Army officer apprised the nation (India) of the operation. That information was given to Pakistan as well... But it is unfortunate for the country that the same day (of the surgical strike), leaders of some parties raised doubts over the surgical strikes," Modi said.
"It was necessary for Pakistan to speak like this (to deny), to keep their morale intact. But what Pakistan was saying, was being said here too. To lend weight to their views, they were citing Pakistani version. Politicisation started from that point," he added.
Delhi CM and AAP supremo Arvind Kejriwal in a series of tweets post surgical strikes raised doubts over the veracity of the government's claims. Kejriwal said Pakistan had invited foreign journaliststo their side of the border to ascertain claims of a surgical strike. "BJP I believe you. But international media publishing Pak propaganda that no strike took place. Lets expose Pak propaganda," tweeted Arvind Kejriwal on October 4th, 2016.
PM Modi added that the opposition leaders were speaking "rubbish" and "those who raised doubts over the Army action, were wrong and such politicisation should not have happened".
Modi said lauding the valour of soldiers from all operations including the 1962 war with China was the duty of the government and citizens.
"If we don't hail the valour of those who stake their lives for the country, then who will? So praising the Army should not be considered as politicisation," he said
The Prime Minister was asked whether the objectives of the surgical strikes were met, considering that cross-LoC attacks still continue in Kashmir.
In response, he said he would not like to discuss the issue in open domain.
But then he went on to add, "Ek ladai se Pakistan sudhar jayega, yeh sochne mein bahut badi galti hogi. Pakistan ko sudarne mein abhi aur samay lagega (It will be a big mistake to think that Pakistan will start behaving after one fight. It will take a long time for Pakistan to start behaving).
Talking about the Uri attack, Modi said, "That incident made me restless and there was rage within me. I had gone to Kerala and made a mention of this. Because I could not stop myself.
Modi said that while talking to the Army, he realised that they wanted justice for their martyred soldiers and the government gave them the "free hand" to plan and execute the surgical strikes.
Special training was imparted to the commandos and secrecy was maintained.
"The topography and obstacles were kept in consideration... It was a learning experience for me as well," Modi said.
In September 2016, terrorists of Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed entered the Army camp in Uri near the Line of Control and killed 20 soldiers in the attack.
In retaliation, the Indian Army troops including the commandos from various units of the Para (Special Forces) units deployed in Jammu and Kashmir carried out raids across the border on multiple targets.
All these targets were launch pads for terrorists for infiltrating into Jammu and Kashmir for carrying out attacks against military and civilian targets.
Though the security forces are not sure about the exact number of casualties on the Pakistan side but based on post-operation intercepts and movements, it is believed that it had suffered around 50 casualties including its regular Army.
From the Indian side, only one soldier had suffered injury due to a personnel mine explosion while returning from the operation.
Cheers