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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby rhytha » 17 Apr 2019 00:20

Lilo wrote:Image
After reviewing with VHS the TN situation I feel nationalists in TN should vote for Amma Party of Dinakaran. As for corruption all TN parties same . But Dinakaranis good for national unity 6:18 AM - 15 Apr 2019

https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1117779300969615360


SuSu's prepoll instruction to Swamytards aiming to defeat the NDA alliance of AIADMK & BJP in TN.
Never seen a snake like SuSu in our Politics.Na Bhuto Na Bhavishyati.

What is good for SuSu's pockets is good for "national unity" it seems ( SuSu has a deep nexus with mannargudi mafia's (Sasikala / TTV Dinakaran) loot gathered during Jayalalitha times ).
And now Viraat Swamytards are instructed by their SuSu to vote for TTV who allied his party with muslim communal organisation/s SDPI (& PFI) in TN supposedly for the sake of "national unity" :rotfl:



SS is not a pragmatic politician. He can never become a popular politician who can garner votes by spreading his appeal.

Most of the time you don’t have to speak the naked truth, in fact you should not speak the naked truth especially in politics and management, it serves no purpose to the speaker and to the listener.

The constant messaging of aspirations by the speaker to the listeners is more important than actual truth. Like religion is the opium if the masses, truth is also the anti-opium of the masses.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Lilo » 17 Apr 2019 00:26

chetak wrote:Before you go off the deep end, my limited point was not about triple talaq by the husbands....

Below is what you started out by typing...
Chetak wrote:...The women are lying too but they will vote modi except in places where there is a VVPAT record.

My reply to you was calling you out for this claim that muslim women should somehow be scared of "VVPAT". The first para of my post was specifically addressing this.Bottom line VVPAT doesnt effect ballot secrecy in anyway .

Rest of my post was to highlight what ordinance banning triple talaq achieved for Muslim women's safety to those who may be browsing this open forum using the context of "targeted harassment" in your replies.
One can easily see who is "going off the deep end" - when you cant decipher what was typed concerning your post & what was typed generally.
Lilo wrote:
chetak wrote:....

VVPAT will show how many voted for Modi. The rest is the deduction of a paranoid bunch and it may not go too well for the muslim ladies.

Anyone can make worthless deductions with even ordinary evm's(without VVPAT) when they are booth level tallied - but no one can identify who specifically voted for whom.
There is one muslim woman voter in India one for each muslim man voter and there are 70 million muslim women voters in India. There is no specific relevance for VVPATs here and their reference while hinting at lack of ballot secrecy supposedly because of VVPAT is totally unnecessary.


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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 17 Apr 2019 00:39

Chintamani forecast for upcoming Phase O.O.
He also estimates Phase I based on Exit polls.

https://twitter.com/IamIconoclast/statu ... 24416?s=19

#ChintamaniSpeaks #Elections2019 @Election_in With BJP poised to take 8/14 in the 1st phase of Karnataka LS polls, and another to independent, has the Cong-JDS alliance actually helped BJP establish itself in the Old Mysore area? Check the details on
https://t.co/JNH4eV3DHL

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 17 Apr 2019 00:41

Lilo, No getting combative about trivia.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 17 Apr 2019 00:44

chetak wrote:
Supratik wrote:Bdeshi actor Ferdous' visa has been cancelled. He was campaigning for the TMC after having entered India on a business visa.


he has also been blacklisted.


How about Mahesh Bhatt wife and daughter with UK citizenship giving gnan ?

Why don't they get EC censure?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby nachiket » 17 Apr 2019 01:03

ramana wrote:
chetak wrote:
he has also been blacklisted.


How about Mahesh Bhatt wife and daughter with UK citizenship giving gnan ?

Why don't they get EC censure?

They must have a PIO card. It'll give them more rights than Ferdous Khan on a visa.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 17 Apr 2019 01:06

I asked on Twitter an lets get real answer.
I think tyranny of distance is working here!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 17 Apr 2019 01:35

There are news reports of NYAY ads being played at the start of movies in cinemas. Anyone ask ECI if they'd please confirm that this is properly accounted for in campaign spending data ?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby khatvaanga » 17 Apr 2019 03:55

You have been saying this for a long time now. I am getting the feeling that this is one thing that will turn true. Except WB that is.

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VikramA wrote:going by the tone of articles appearing since yesterday the left liberals are getting nervous. therefore plan B has been activated which is to keep rafale in news and start the whining about EVM. naidu has already started it



the opposition will partially wind up its campaign after 2nd phase. complete windup after third phase.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 17 Apr 2019 05:15

Looks like Kerala is changing.

#KERALA

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM-PATHANAMTHITTA-THRISSUR

3 seats where BJP+RSS is fighting like never before

Then comes the next better triangular seats like PALAKKAD-ATTINGAL-KOTTAYAM-CHALAKKUDY- ERNAKULAM-KASARAGODE-ALAPUZHA-KOZHIKKODE- WAYANAD where BJP is giving tough fight


Dileep et al What's your take?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 17 Apr 2019 05:16

WB also will be part of national trend.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 17 Apr 2019 05:39

ramana wrote:Looks like Kerala is changing.
#KERALA
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM-PATHANAMTHITTA-THRISSUR
3 seats where BJP+RSS is fighting like never before
Then comes the next better triangular seats like PALAKKAD-ATTINGAL-KOTTAYAM-CHALAKKUDY- ERNAKULAM-KASARAGODE-ALAPUZHA-KOZHIKKODE- WAYANAD where BJP is giving tough fight
Dileep et al What's your take?

Not very clued in unlike hnair, Dileep or Sachin, but TVM and Pathanamthitta (due to Surendran) are seen as stronger BJP bets . Thrissur is possible - Suresh Gopi is popular but it has assembly constituency areas where BJP is weak. Perhaps Palakkad and Kasargod too. The rest, I think are analogous to WB - even if BJP has no winning chance, build voteshare out of the LDP votebase, targeting future gains.

Others are a question of how much LDP vote transfers to BJP. The Sabarimala issue has resulted in a significant change in the political calculus, but whether or not it can be harnessed remains to be seen. BJP, SNDP and NSS together might be a swing factor.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby jpremnath » 17 Apr 2019 07:02

ramana wrote:Looks like Kerala is changing.

#KERALA

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM-PATHANAMTHITTA-THRISSUR

3 seats where BJP+RSS is fighting like never before

Then comes the next better triangular seats like PALAKKAD-ATTINGAL-KOTTAYAM-CHALAKKUDY- ERNAKULAM-KASARAGODE-ALAPUZHA-KOZHIKKODE- WAYANAD where BJP is giving tough fight


Dileep et al What's your take?


Triandrum remains BJP's solid bet..

Pathanamthitta has only 56% Hindu voters with remaining almost all Christian and the LDF candidate is someone with good connections to the Church.So it would be close to impossible. The only chance is if almost all of the Christian votes which used to stay with UDF going to LDF. This would open up the whole situation. But again, CPM has strong network everywhere and has to see how much of those 56% Hindus would end up voting for BJP.

Thrissur will be tough. BJP's last election count was only 1,02,681 votes while the other 2 polled above 3,50,000 each. BJP candidate is a celebrity, but not charismatic enough to hold a mass sway. LDF candidate is weak here this time and T N Prathapan from UDF is a former MLA and well known face. My calculation is that he will end up being the winner...

In the rest of the seats, BJP doesnt have strong candidates to pull off any surprises.

UDF used to dominate loksabha polls even when they had tough time in their assembly elections. But this election the surprise will be that congress will lose their sure shot seats. Their assured seats like Alappuzha, Kannur and Ernakulam is going to the commies.

My prediction on the 20 seats (previous wins): Commies 12 (8), UDF 7 (12), BJP 1 (0)

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Sanju » 17 Apr 2019 07:11

There are rumours about Gadkari trying to create alliances without the Modi-Shah duo and in turn being fixed in the Nagpur seat. Has anyone heard this or is this a ploy to divide the house?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 17 Apr 2019 07:24

Sanju wrote:There are rumours about Gadkari trying to create alliances without the Modi-Shah duo and in turn being fixed in the Nagpur seat. Has anyone heard this or is this a ploy to divide the house?


He is acting funny.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 17 Apr 2019 07:24

Sanju wrote:There are rumours about Gadkari trying to create alliances without the Modi-Shah duo and in turn being fixed in the Nagpur seat. Has anyone heard this or is this a ploy to divide the house?

The answer to this question lies in finding out where your rumors are coming from .

Don’t be one to unthinkingly forward rumors . There’s no need to be someone else’s patsy .

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Yagnasri » 17 Apr 2019 07:38

He is from Nagpur. So where does he want to contest now? He will win from there. I am seeing him losing. So what is the real problem?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Sanju » 17 Apr 2019 07:51

Suraj wrote:
Sanju wrote:There are rumours about Gadkari trying to create alliances without the Modi-Shah duo and in turn being fixed in the Nagpur seat. Has anyone heard this or is this a ploy to divide the house?

The answer to this question lies in finding out where your rumors are coming from .

Don’t be one to unthinkingly forward rumors . There’s no need to be someone else’s patsy .


Don't want to speculate on this further and will leave it at that. Wouldn't have posted it if I hadn't heard from more than one source and one of which has been impeccable.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 17 Apr 2019 07:55

It was a left project to project him. Even the Italian queen tried that trick. I cant believe he is ai foolish to fall for such tricks. There are always weak minded people who enemies lure.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby williams » 17 Apr 2019 08:16

vijayk wrote:It was a left project to project him. Even the Italian queen tried that trick. I cant believe he is ai foolish to fall for such tricks. There are always weak minded people who enemies lure.


That is a joke. Gadkari is Modi's close friend right from the RSS days. They won't sell out for some leftist wet dreams.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby disha » 17 Apr 2019 10:25

IT Raid on Kanimozhi today and hence as usual she is doing #Blow2Modi

https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/two-days-before-voting-tamil-nadu-no-longer-seems-a-walkover-for-dmk-congress-5679019/

Why Tamil Nadu no longer seems a walkover for DMK-Congress combine

Tamil Nadu elections have become cash-centric over the years, and whichever party has a well-oiled capability to deliver the resources on the ground, has an edge.

Written by Venkatesh Kannaiah |
Updated: April 17, 2019 7:46:10 am

Kannaiah is indianexpress.com's consulting editor for South India


Elections 2019: DMK to contest 20 seats, gives Congress 9, other allies 10 in Tamil Nadu
Nagercoil: Congress President Rahul Gandhi and Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) President M K Stalin during the formal launch of United Progressive Alliance (UPA), a campaign in Tamil Nadu from the Kanyakumari parliamentary constituency, at Nagercoil, in Kanyakumari district, on Wednesday, March 13, 2019. (PTI Photo)
The Tamil Nadu elections started off as a one-sided affair. The DMK-Congress alliance began as a sure winner, adding the CPI, CPI (M), Viduthalai Siruthai (VCK), Vaiko’s MDMK and others to their rainbow alliance. With the alliance partners given a fair share of seats, the victory should have been easy and certain.

Add to this rainbow alliance, the double anti-incumbency of Modi and Palaniswami, and it should have been a walkover. Moreover, in Tamil Nadu, there has been a sustained anti-Modi campaign in media and in the public sphere, and since the BJP was not able to counter the same, one thought that the die was cast. The ‘Balakot bump’ was too muted to be felt or heard.

Interestingly, the anti-Modi campaign till the time of the elections had been led by DMK, Congress and it included large sections of the AIADMK, the PMK, Vijaykanth’s party (DMDK) and almost all the parties that are now part of the AIADMK-BJP alliance.

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Going to the polls without Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi, both the AIADMK and the DMK are handicapped, but the AIADMK is affected much more as for the party, Jayalalitha was the heart and soul of the campaign. DMK too feels Karunanidhi’s absence, but is strong and organised enough to launch a campaign without its leader. Anyway, Stalin had been a leader-in-waiting for a long period of time and hence the transition was easy and quick. For the AIADMK, Palaniswami and Panneerselvam are now the leaders, and their writ does not go uncontested.

It should all point to a clean sweep. But things have not really been as easy as imagined for the DMK- Congress alliance.

Palaniswami showed his political finesse by stitching up an alliance with the BJP, PMK, Vijaykant’s party – DMDK, Puthiya Tamilagam, a Dalit party, and supporting some well-heeled independents. This was not expected as PMK was a vocal critic of AIADMK and BJP. Though it looks a terribly disparate alliance on paper, Palaniswami has ironed these differences and made it into a reasonable fighting force.

Why lone rangers Kamal Haasan and Dhinakaran are the side story in Tamil Nadu

Kamal Haasan of Makkal Needhi Maiyam who is a claimant to the ‘third alternative’ votes has been doing a good campaign.

The Amma Makkal Munnetra Kazhagam, (AMMK) of Dinakaran, Sasikala’s nephew, which was supposed to split the AIADMK votes almost to the middle, is not finding substantial traction as expected. Except for a few constituencies, where they are giving a tough fight to both the DMK and AIADMK, it has not put up high profile candidates nor is it doing campaigning in an intense way across the state. It looks to be working on a few select constituencies. The damage to the AIADMK from AMMK might be much lesser than expected.

Both Kamal Haasan of Makkal Needhi Maiyam and Seeman of Naam Tamizhar Katchi (NTK) who are claimants to the ‘third alternative’ votes have been doing a good campaign. Both of them are targeting the young voters and are talking of an alternative kind of politics, and have also focused on environment and ecological issues, which mainstream parties avoid like a plague. Though short on resources and high profile candidates, they are making a small but sure-footed impact. They are expected to take away anti-establishment, pro-DMK votes from the DMK-Cong combine.

While the DMK is the strongest of the alliance partners and Congress is also resourceful and capable, in some cases they are dependent on the DMK for manpower and cadres. While the major parties, the DMK and AIADMK can fight the polls across the state with equal strength, when seats are given to the allies, more factors come into play, and one is not sure if cadres of the respective alliance leaders are working wholeheartedly for the allies. This is an issue which plagues both the DMK and AIADMK fronts, but might give some leeway for the AIADMK front in certain seats.

Tamil Nadu elections have become cash-centric over the years, and whichever party has a well-oiled capability to deliver the resources on the ground, has an edge. Both the leading parties have subject matter expertise on the issue, but ruling parties can work things to their advantage.

The resistance for the DMK-Cong alliance is coming from the northern regions of Tamil Nadu where the PMK has a sure-fire Vanniyar caste base and where some polarisation along anti-Dalit lines can happen. In the western regions, where the AIADMK is traditionally strong, Chief Minister Palaniswami’s Gounder antecedents is of some help to the party.

Finally, the BJP and its allies have been able to inject a whisper campaign on Hindu issues in some constituencies. This is partly made possible by some remarks made by Dravida Kazhagam leader Veeramani (who was campaigning on behalf of the DMK candidates). One is not sure how it is going to turn out, though Tamil Nadu voters are not new to the DMK’s mild atheism in the public sphere, and devotion and temple attendance in the private sphere.

What started off as a sure win for DMK-Congress, is fast becoming a tough fight, in quite a few constituencies. Pollsters who were talking earlier of a clean sweep are now hedging their bets. But it is still an advantage for DMK-Congress.


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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Mukesh.Kumar » 17 Apr 2019 11:56

ramana wrote:WB also will be part of national trend.



Ramanaji not so sure about this. Anecdotal but i am getting mixed signals. There is a sizable section wanting Modi but they are not as vocal. Among immediate family and friends i see quite a bit of apathy. Unlike last time.

And somehow us Bengalis seem to have drunk deeply at the well of Left Liberal Kool Aid. Some of the conspiracy theories would put Mills and Boon to shame.

Feels like 10 though i was hoping for 20.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ani_sharma » 17 Apr 2019 12:39

chetak wrote:
Mukesh.Kumar wrote:
The women are lying too but they will vote modi except in places where there is a VVPAT record.


I have an amateur theory on how to handle this..
I remember the words of Ajit doval - "I look at things the way they are, not the way i want them to be"
These lines of thinking, while may make some pessimistic, it also presents you opportunities.

Now based on this specific video (https://youtu.be/C8_dUk3PNOI) and many other content like this.. i would like to draw two conclusions:

1) They (M) have taken a decision.. they will oppose Modi(BJP). They are not actually voting for INC/MGB/etc.. they are just voting against modi.
2) To convince themselves they will believe any crap peddled against modi as valid rational. They believe because they want to believe.

I have few thoughts on how to handle this:-
1) Develop nationwide assets to control the anti-BJP narrative.
For example- One may believe on CT theory about pulwama .. but if you present them with 100s of illogical theories.. they will still believe but with reduced conviction.
Similarly- In peace time (Non-election time), through your assets peddle multiple lies which u know u can counter. Let them float around for 4 years only to be countered in a pre-planned manner 6 months before election.

2) design your own opposition:
While there is no simple recipe to create allies, it is pretty simple to create enemies. Create enemies you can control when need be.
The idea is to make anti-BJP club as crowded and as competitive as possible.. so that in a competitive market.. there is no place for big player.. only small players.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 17 Apr 2019 13:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kemXuX52FiE
KK being taken to task by locals of his constituency for his anti-national utterances..

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Postby Supratik » 17 Apr 2019 13:47

Unusual silence among my friends and family in WB about elections. When I meet them personally most are in anti-incumbency zone. Are we going to see a Pokhran? Bringing in Ferdous and other Bdeshi stars for campaigning suggests Mamata is now desperately dependent on the illegal Bdeshi Muslim vote.

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Postby Vikas » 17 Apr 2019 13:54

ramana wrote:
chetak wrote:
he has also been blacklisted.


How about Mahesh Bhatt wife and daughter with UK citizenship giving gnan ?

Why don't they get EC censure?


Who is afraid of Bhaiwood uvach

Ramana Ji, We are becoming too touchy and paranoid. Comparing Soni Razdan and Alia with some Bangladeshi actor is unfair.
Both of them were raised in India, work and pay their taxes in India and have been born to Indian parents (at least one).
When Green Card holders can run RBI and Indian economy, then why blacklist people for adding their 2 cents to the already existing Gyan.

IMO, Short of voting for any candidate, They should have all the rights to participate in Indian democracy. Just the color of Passport should not define someones indirect participation in the electoral process. Moreover is there any law that debars a non-Indian from tweeting or writing blog about Indian elections.
I think it is the sin of Mahesh Bhat that they are carrying.

PS: Poor Alia hasn't even uttered a word anywhere so why drag her.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 17 Apr 2019 13:56

The problem in KL I see is that both the LDF and UDF can transfer their votes to each other to stop the BJP.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vikas » 17 Apr 2019 13:58

Supratik wrote:Unusual silence among my friends and family in WB about elections. When I meet them personally most are in anti-incumbency zone. Are we going to see a Pokhran? Bringing in Ferdous and other Bdeshi stars for campaigning suggests Mamata is now desperately dependent on the illegal Bdeshi Muslim vote.


Based upon my conversation with Bengali friends (mostly Bhadralok kind ), BJP may breach the fort in few places but more or less, It will be TMC which will carry the day in WB. No one expects Mumtaaz begum to lose WB as the things stand today. With about 25% of the peaceful vote bank already in her kitty, It will be an uphill task for BJP to bridge this gap and rout her.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Dileep » 17 Apr 2019 14:07

Report from KL:

Trivandrum is almost sure win for BJP.

Pathanamthitta is highly likely. The question is how much influence P C George have on his Xtian followers.

Thrissur have a reasonable chance, but not enough. Suresh Gopi has made some good traction though.

Ernakulam (my place) will go to P Rajeev. Even I would have voted him if Sabarimala issue had not happened. Squads for LDF and UDF came to my house thrice already, but no one from NDA. There is good activity at some pockets, but not enough. Lucky that Kannanthanam is contesting here. If that boat jumper Vadakkan was given the seat, I would have voted Congress!!

Wayanad is a joke. It is contested by the local party BDJS. It is the political party of SNDP. The leader of SNDP visibly favours the CPIM and state govt. His son is the leader of BDJS, aligned with BJP and contesting at Wayanad. This happens because there is threat to the family from both central and state govts about some financial scams.

NSS, the organization of Nair community is officially apolitical and "equidistant". But they are strongly behind the Sabarimala movement and their current policy is to defeat LDF. In general, the influence of the leadership over the community members is weak, and we nairs are notorious for infighting. It is the Sabarimala issue that somewhat galvanized the community and brought some unity. A number of smaller community organizations are in the same boat.

SNDP, the organization of the Ezhava community is interesting. They are the biggest and the most cohesive among the community organizations. The leadership have good grip on the community. They formed the political arm BDJS to tap into the BJP power in the centre. The expectation was that Thushar, the son of the leader, could become a minister at centre, and some lucrative posts will come the way of other leaders. But that did not happen, so they were disappointed. Still, they couldn't go to either LDF/UDF either, at least for some time. So, it became a mess.The leader Natesan stood with CPIM on Sabarimala issue, and created some opposing sound bytes against Thushar contesting the election. But finally,he ended up facing Pappu at Wayanad.

BJP in KL is also a joke. Each leader pulls his own selfish way. The president Sreedharan Pillai was visibly indifferent on Sabarimala issue, and did all he can to downplay K Surendran, who spearheaded the movement (and got into jail for weeks). I seriously doubt if Pillai is in the payroll of LDF/UDF to screw BJP from within. Finally, the parallel intelligence of Amit Shah worked and things came to a reasonable state as far as this election goes.

The anti-modi sentiment is strong among the minorities. The move against black money have seriously dented these people. I think just like the "anything but LDF" feeling among yindoos pro Sabarimala, there is "anyone but Modi" feeling among the minorities.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vikas » 17 Apr 2019 14:08

sudeepj wrote:
Rahul M wrote:OT, but I have seen posters supporting bhindranwale in Delhi as well, as 'remember the martyrs' etc.

this propaganda has to be countered very strongly, especially by sikhs themselves before it poison's another generation. Most sikhs I know are very nationalistic and comfortable with hindus but there is a very strong strain of hubris running in their thought, which is also common to khalistani propaganda. almost as if ground is being prepared for the real poison.


Its easy to develop a superiority complex and to appeal to it.. who does not like feeling superior to the unwashed plebs around all the time.. Who would not like to blame 'the other' for all the ills in ones own society. I would not be unnecessarily alarmed, but a sophisticated communication strategy needs to be put in place to talk about these things. Ultimately, Sikhs are our brothers in dharm and we simply cant turn our back on the future. There are plenty of mistakes on the states side and from among the Hindus society as well, not least the lack of justice for those who suffered in 84.


Sudeep Ji, There is history before '84 happened. As much as '84 was horrible, shameful and a blot on Indic society, we should also take in account the situation and circumstances of the time in account.
Don't know what mistakes are you referring to otherwise.
Sikhs have been put on higher pedestal across North India, How many movies would be allowed to play the religious motif as was played in recent movie 'Kesari' and everyone lapped it up.
This superiority complex is mostly owned by Jaat Sikhs and not by Sikhs who are considered lower.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 17 Apr 2019 14:20

Vikas, WB does not have caste vote banks. If the Hindus decide to vote BJP the secular-socialists and 25% M votes will not be able to stop a sweep. The current slogan is "chup chap kamale chaap" which means stay silent and vote Kamal or lotus i.e. BJP. Everyone is afraid of TMC goonda bahini. Lets see what happens.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Yagnasri » 17 Apr 2019 14:52

Goon power is there but a 7 stage polling and deployment of central forces will help to some extent.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Lilo » 17 Apr 2019 15:22

Bengal will not allow Ram Naam or Hari naam. Allah O A only. Rohingya Muslim infiltrators will be settled here- what will you do? Openly threatens Reporter calling for cancellation of his licence .

Notice the bengal police waala standing next to her & gesticulating his approval.He Can be a better mamluk than any Nubian slave.


https://youtu.be/fm_P64nSDvc

Who is this Trinamool woman leader & who is that police guy with the sun glasses ..?
Video of Trinamool leader opposing NRC legislation of BJP govt at center.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 17 Apr 2019 15:42

Most of the Islamist gangs are with the TMC. Must be one of their chota mota leaders.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 17 Apr 2019 16:30

Vikas wrote:
ramana wrote:
How about Mahesh Bhatt wife and daughter with UK citizenship giving gnan ?

Why don't they get EC censure?


Who is afraid of Bhaiwood uvach

Ramana Ji, We are becoming too touchy and paranoid. Comparing Soni Razdan and Alia with some Bangladeshi actor is unfair.
Both of them were raised in India, work and pay their taxes in India and have been born to Indian parents (at least one).
When Green Card holders can run RBI and Indian economy, then why blacklist people for adding their 2 cents to the already existing Gyan.

IMO, Short of voting for any candidate, They should have all the rights to participate in Indian democracy. Just the color of Passport should not define someones indirect participation in the electoral process. Moreover is there any law that debars a non-Indian from tweeting or writing blog about Indian elections.
I think it is the sin of Mahesh Bhat that they are carrying.

PS: Poor Alia hasn't even uttered a word anywhere so why drag her.


soni razdan was born in the UK to a german mother and a cashmeri pandit father.

both she and her daughter alia are UK citizens.

PIO card apart (??), they are both non Indian passport holders, just like katrina kaif.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 17 Apr 2019 16:59

Will some kind mullah please check out this NYT Article? url don't do no good, it brings up a page demanding payment.

But the lead-off is this:
What It Takes to Pull Off India’s Gargantuan Election
More than 900 million people — over 10 percent of the world’s population — could head to the polls over several weeks. The government is committed to polling every voter, no matter how isolated.


OK, innocuous title, but look at the lead-off picture. What happened to "secret ballot"? The woman shown voting on the machine held by the (poll worker? ISI agint?) has an audience of the whole village. What is the real story behind this?

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Postby Dileep » 17 Apr 2019 17:36

^^The caption of the image :Election officials instructing voters how to use electronic voting machines. The machines are made up of a "balloting unit," at the left of the table, a "control unit," right, and a secure printer, center. CreditAnupam Nath/Associated Press

There is widespread familiarization and training effort for the machines. Especially with introduction of VVPAT, this time a lot of such sessions were conducted. See the VVPAT box that looks like a trash can to the right of the voter.

BTW, I could read the article from the "asia pacific" site. Not sure if it is because my "script blocker".

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/13/world/asia/india-election-results.html

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KL Dubey » 17 Apr 2019 17:50

chetak wrote:
Vikas wrote:

Both of them were raised in India, work and pay their taxes in India and have been born to Indian parents (at least one).
When Green Card holders can run RBI and Indian economy, then why blacklist people for adding their 2 cents to the already existing Gyan.

IMO, Short of voting for any candidate, They should have all the rights to participate in Indian democracy. Just the color of Passport should not define someones indirect participation in the electoral process. Moreover is there any law that debars a non-Indian from tweeting or writing blog about Indian elections.
I think it is the sin of Mahesh Bhat that they are carrying.

PS: Poor Alia hasn't even uttered a word anywhere so why drag her.


soni razdan was born in the UK to a german mother and a cashmeri pandit father.

both she and her daughter alia are UK citizens.

PIO card apart (??), they are both non Indian passport holders, just like katrina kaif.


My Rs 2/ only-

Anybody who is an Indian citizen (whether holding green card or not) is eligible to "run RBI" or anything else in India.

If you are a foreign citizen in India on a business/other temporary visa, you have no right to political activities unless specifically permitted by goremint. Correct action has been taken in the case of the BD actors.

The case of PIO/OCIs is different and a matter of real concern. Right now, once you get a OCI/PIO card, there is no specific prohibition of political activities/campaigning as far as I know (of course, voting is not allowed). There is no specific prohibition on missionary activities either. See items #7 and #10 on this chart:

https://mha.gov.in/PDF_Other/CompNRIPIOOCI_25042017.pdf

There has been a case of an India-born OCI wallah doing missionary activities and the goremint cancelled his OCI. This is being contested in court now:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/oci-card-holders-appear-to-enjoy-freedom-of-speech-equality-like-other-indians-hc/articleshow/65373651.cms

So, the OCI route may be used as a loophole by EJs and other external forces to insert their workers in India. Goremint needs to bring in amendments to the OCI rules that specifically prohibit additional types of activities such as political activism/campaigning and missionary activities.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 17 Apr 2019 18:00

Many CON party candidates in UP are upper caste brahmin and banias in order to cut BJP votes and help MGB. Wonder how much of it is going to work. any ideas?


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