2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby arshyam » 25 Apr 2019 10:01

KL Dubey wrote:
arshyam wrote:While I am no supporter of either, it does not do any good to this forum to use such words when talking about an elected representative, who is also the chief minister of a state in the Indian Union to boot.


He should have thought about the responsibilities and dignities expected of him by the same Indian Union...and pulled himself together to behave like a man rather than a bawling bovine. Seriously....!!!

Same with the father...dozing and snoring everyday in cabinet meetings and parliament...

Why defend the indefensible.

Have it your way saar. I have said what I had to.

Btw, have you seen a bawling bovine? I haven't, hence curious :mrgreen:

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Dumal » 25 Apr 2019 10:13

On the topic of name-calling, while it pains to hear a PM being called chor, etc totally underservedly, many of these elected leaders have well-deserved records and characters that earn them these names... even the great Orange-gutan is not spared. How can it be unjust to call out Fakeriwal, jihadidi, Maunmohan Singh et al.

That reminds me... some of whom we have not heard much about or from this election season: MMS, who even months back chimed in about the economy or RBI or something, RSS and it’s top leaders, LKA and cohorts, Lalu (maybe too old/ailing), anyone else?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KL Dubey » 25 Apr 2019 10:15

Today is NaMo's 7 km roadshow in Kashi....i feel jittery about his personal security in these type of situations. I hope all is under control.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vikas » 25 Apr 2019 11:02

KL Dubey wrote:Today is NaMo's 7 km roadshow in Kashi....i feel jittery about his personal security in these type of situations. I hope all is under control.


+100
He should be extra careful during these roadshows. There are many enemies lurking the corner.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Ardeshir » 25 Apr 2019 11:14

+108
I think those of us old enough to remember the news about RaGa Senior will always be a little jittery.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Mort Walker » 25 Apr 2019 11:17

KL Dubey wrote:Today is NaMo's 7 km roadshow in Kashi....i feel jittery about his personal security in these type of situations. I hope all is under control.


I hope they have a complete arrangement. Watching the interview of Namo with Akshay Kumar, one gets the impression that he fears little. This is both good and bad.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 12:17

ramana wrote:Primus put it on Facebook and put a link.
Its great.


also please tweet it, saars.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 14:04

An acrid and a very bitter burnol moment for the presstitutes when all that the "press(titutes)" really wanted was a kodak moment with Modi in which the presstitutes were the stars and were seen as bravely and courageously "speaking truth to power".

Modi remains a master puppeteer running rings around the presstitutes and paid media and this was undoubtedly a major snub




Narendra Modi's interview to Akshay Kumar is as much smart strategy as a snub to the media




Narendra Modi's interview to Akshay Kumar is as much smart strategy as a snub to the media

Bikram Vohra, Apr 25, 2019

On Wednesday, I watched Prime Minister Narendra Modi being interviewed by actor Akshay Kumar in largely bucolic surroundings. My first reaction was one of surprise that an actor was ploughing the fourth estate. That too mid election.

Of the thousands of Indian journalists, wasn't there one of stature and standing to interview the prime minister at this juncture that he would choose to talk to an actor instead?

Have we so lost our way that Modi can choose a celebrity to do our work? No one from the ranks of the media even thinks it is worth commenting upon or find annoying.

Narendra Modis interview to Akshay Kumar is as much smart strategy as a snub to the media

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Narendra Modi's interview to Akshay Kumar.

The more I thought about the flaccid response and the obvious lack of frames in the hall of fame of the news world, as well as the fact that for so long, we have been preoccupied in letting each other down, I realised we had destroyed the general respect and admiration our profession enjoyed not so long ago.

We no longer care about each other as a fraternity, why would anyone care about us?

Was Modi employing a strategic move, or was the snub deliberate and a way to show genial contempt for the media and the manner in which it covers the news, the element of fake news having eroded not just the credibility of content but also the individual peddling it.

If President of the United States Donald Trump has an inimical relationship with the media and the hostility is unremitting, perhaps the Prime Minister of India has also begun to feel that every time he gives a one-on-one interview, the questioner becomes aggressive and shifts the focus onto shame and scandal rather than achievement. By the same token, the other side become docile and meek, overawed in his presence. As a result, the message he wishes to send out, be it right or wrong, does not find traction.

So Modi does not go for glamour. Instead, he chose an actor who is closely associated with initiatives that are dear to the government's agenda. Between toilets and sanitary napkins and the promotion of rural hygiene and sanitation, Akshay Kumar has become the squeaky clean face of that revolution.


As he sits with the prime minister in front of an orchestrated, gently-panned camera, creating the ambience of tranquility, laughter of the happy kind, with tea for two in an idyllic lawn, the eyeballs he attracts are far more than of some shrill pundits of the press who would have been more intent on marketing themselves than conducting a meaningful interview.

We must ask ourselves: have we become redundant? Trump is still loud and vitriolic and bad mouths the media at every opportunity. Modi, on the other hand, has been smart enough to do none of that, using his weapon of silence to simply sidestep the media and find other options to package himself.


There is no doubt that the placid Akshay interview was a hit and completely sidesteps the media's sworn duty to question, question and question those in power. Somewhere, those questions were hijacked. Leaders in the industry must realise that until this lost credibility is redeemed by good, strong journalism, surrogates will be easily found, and we will tamely report it.

The saddest part is that as we hurtle down the path of self-destruction, no one cares enough to say, "Hey, wait a minute. Why is this film star doing our job?"

As a journalist for 50 years I would go to any lengths to get a one-on-one with a prime minister like Akshay Kumar did.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby syam » 25 Apr 2019 14:53

What a shameless tribe our media is!!!

They never asked a single hard hitting question to previous leaders. Now they want to do brave journalism. Modiji already gave interviews to eminent journalists like arnub and navika. What more should he do? He is not sidestepping any of the congress chamcha journos. They just became unpopular. If they lost the credibility, it's not PM's fault. I would suggest them to do introspection. But then meh. Not worth it. You dig your own grave by selling yourself. Not our duty to redeem any of you.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ani_sharma » 25 Apr 2019 15:04

Tweet by praveen patil (543)

Massive meltdown for the opposition has begun everywhere. Karyakartas are abandoning posts, booth level infrastructure is vanishing, opposition leaders have stopped spending money. Sympathietic (to opposition) local reporters have gone into slumber!

Just entering wave territory

Our reading suggests that most of the opposition is stunned because they expected MGB in UP, TMC in Bengal and INC-JDS in Karnataka to perform well in first 3 phases.
Nobody (including us) expected BJP to crush the entire opposition so strongly in these 3 states

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 15:12

ani_sharma wrote:Tweet by praveen patil (543)

Massive meltdown for the opposition has begun everywhere. Karyakartas are abandoning posts, booth level infrastructure is vanishing, opposition leaders have stopped spending money. Sympathietic (to opposition) local reporters have gone into slumber!

Just entering wave territory

Our reading suggests that most of the opposition is stunned because they expected MGB in UP, TMC in Bengal and INC-JDS in Karnataka to perform well in first 3 phases.
Nobody (including us) expected BJP to crush the entire opposition so strongly in these 3 states


ghee shakar.

I just hope that 543 is right this time.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Shaktimaan » 25 Apr 2019 15:43

The Congress got Modiji's biopic blocked.

So what did Modiji do? He gave his own independent, biographical interview to Akshay Kumar. As a result, all channels are covering it. A true masterstroke by the legend.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 15:52

Shaktimaan wrote:The Congress got Modiji's biopic blocked.

So what did Modiji do? He gave his own independent, biographical interview to Akshay Kumar. As a result, all channels are covering it. A true masterstroke by the legend.


and the presstitutes simply can not buy enough burnol quickly enough to assuage their burning nether regions

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby nandakumar » 25 Apr 2019 16:03

Priyanka Gandhi is not being fielded from Varanasi. Very mystifying after all that hype. Is it a case of sibling power rivalry in which Rahul prevailed in the end? Because nothing else makes sense.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby dipak » 25 Apr 2019 16:13

nandakumar wrote:Priyanka Gandhi is not being fielded from Varanasi. Very mystifying after all that hype. Is it a case of sibling power rivalry in which Rahul prevailed in the end? Because nothing else makes sense.

Or, they have realized that Priyanka would lose her deposit along with face, if she is fielded against Modi ji from Varanasi.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby dipak » 25 Apr 2019 16:16

disha wrote:
Suraj wrote:What does prarambhik ahsaas mean ? Early feeling ? Sanskritized Hindi education doesn't really cover words like ahsaas.

The states being implied are probably ones Cong most depends on for $$.


Ahsaas* means Feeling in Urdu. I think it is a Urdu word. Hindi one will be Abhaas (and Kakkaji also pointed it out). Of course, Prarambhik Ahsaas means "Initial Feeling".

*Could Abhaas transformed into Ahsaas?

'Anubhuti' for 'Ahsaas'

Sorry for the OT.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sanjayc » 25 Apr 2019 16:32

Dumal wrote:On the topic of name-calling, while it pains to hear a PM being called chor, etc totally underservedly, many of these elected leaders have well-deserved records and characters that earn them these names... even the great Orange-gutan is not spared. How can it be unjust to call out Fakeriwal, jihadidi, Maunmohan Singh et al.

That reminds me... some of whom we have not heard much about or from this election season: MMS, who even months back chimed in about the economy or RBI or something, RSS and it’s top leaders, LKA and cohorts, Lalu (maybe too old/ailing), anyone else?


Mani Shankar Aiyar has been told to shut up this election season, it seems. His Chaiwala jibe gave Modi a big boost last time

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sarathy » 25 Apr 2019 16:48

dipak wrote:
nandakumar wrote:Priyanka Gandhi is not being fielded from Varanasi. Very mystifying after all that hype. Is it a case of sibling power rivalry in which Rahul prevailed in the end? Because nothing else makes sense.

Or, they have realized that Priyanka would lose her deposit along with face, if she is fielded against Modi ji from Varanasi.


Exactly, my thoughts. They don't want their prized "weapon" to face utter defeat - which will a permanent mark. No point fielding her with near certain possibility of loss.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 16:52

dipak wrote:
nandakumar wrote:Priyanka Gandhi is not being fielded from Varanasi. Very mystifying after all that hype. Is it a case of sibling power rivalry in which Rahul prevailed in the end? Because nothing else makes sense.

Or, they have realized that Priyanka would lose her deposit along with face, if she is fielded against Modi ji from Varanasi.


she would poll a considerable number of votes but never enough to win or to even trouble Modi in the slightest.

They would have to immediately pull out resources from 4-5 other states to, at the very best, make a rather poor point. The congis simply do not have the bandwidth to pit her against an opponent like Modi and neither is she of the caliber to take on Modi ever. Even the mafia queen cannot take on Modi and win.

PGV would be typecast and identified with a loss in varanasi and would forever carry that indelible mark like the mark of satan.

Modi's handling of any crowd is highly professional, he knows their pulse and what moves them and how to phrase himself and bend them to his will. Compared to Modi, PGN is a mere rabble rouser with a rather limited repertoire of smart alecky comments. All sizzle and no steak. or to my more traditional Hidutwa brethren, all hat and no cowboy.

Her future effectiveness for the congis would be vastly reduced as she campaigned for pappu in amethi, a seat from where he will lose to smriti irani, for sure. It will prove to everyone that pappu actually got scared and away from amethi because of smriti irani.

It makes all the sense in the world to the congis for PGV to continue to maintain her media created hype of being a miracle worker and a mythically invincible one at that.

If PGV loses to Modi, the fascination of the masses for her will be much reduced, gora chamda, notwithstanding.

and finally, the eternal Indian question:

Rajiv Gandhi koi Nigerian lady se vivaah kiye hotey, gora chamda na hota, toh Congress party uski netritva sweekarti kya?

Keeping well out of the way of the onrushing Modi juggernaut is the best and safest bet for PGV now. So the congis have ensured that she lives to fight another day, dented halo and fading aura ostensibly intact or to put it in crudely political terms, virgo intacta.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 25 Apr 2019 16:57

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vikas » 25 Apr 2019 17:12

I think lot of people would have applauded PGV in case she had decided to fight from Varanasi including myself.
She could have shown herself to be a fearless woman ready to take on the greatest nemesis of Congress party despite knowing that She would lose the election. Atleast U-turn Kejru last time around went to Varanasi despite Modi wave. This is bad optics and akin to Rahul running away and fighting from KL.
Like Rahul in 2009, She had her chance and she blew it.
Come 2024 and she would have revealed herself to be another clueless Gandhi who knows zilch about Bharat.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 25 Apr 2019 17:17

She teased several times and backed off. She lost credibility whatever she has

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Yagnasri » 25 Apr 2019 17:24

The aim of bringing in the bottle is to stop further erosion of the base, boost confidence and if possible bring few more votes. I am not sure they have achieved anyone those three.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Sachin » 25 Apr 2019 17:26

vijayk wrote:She teased several times and backed off. She lost credibility whatever she has

Vikas wrote:I think lot of people would have applauded PGV in case she had decided to fight from Varanasi including myself.

nandakumar wrote:Priyanka Gandhi is not being fielded from Varanasi. Very mystifying after all that hype. Is it a case of sibling power rivalry in which Rahul prevailed in the end? Because nothing else makes sense.

There could be multiple reasons.
1. She is the only unused weapon the Nehru-Ghandi clan and INC have at the moment. If she contests and loses badly the charm of that weapon is lost. Like Pappu of today she would become a Pappini. If that happens there is no one from Nehru-Ghandi clan who can make any mark.
2. If she contests her husband would be the biggest asset which Modi can use. It is quite know that none in Nehru-Ghandi clan have the oratory skills which Na.Mo has. He can make enough and more jibes & accusations against R.Vadra and P.Vadra would be always on the defensive. It is only going to dent INC image further.
3. The affidavit listing assets, cases, educational qualifications all become potential bullets for the BJP to use. May be she is not clean on all these.
4. There could be also an INC plan to test her at the pocket borough of Amethi first. If Rahul wins both Wayanad and Amethi seats he would have to resign from one and there would be a bye election. Priyanka can try her luck then, with both being sure seats of INC.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 17:27

food for thought

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 17:35

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"You want me to believe that a political alliance with MIM of Asaduddin Owaisi and Muslim League is secular, and BJP is communal?" ~ Arif Mohammed Khan on secularism and politics. #LokSabhaElections2019

7:38 PM - 23 Apr 2019

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 18:01

a liberandu burnol fest

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 25 Apr 2019 18:05

chetak wrote:a liberandu burnol fest

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WOW! Look at the PRESSTITUTE agony ...

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sudarshan » 25 Apr 2019 18:17

Interesting that the guy says "Bhasmasuri party." But but but... I thought Bhasmasur was the innocent tragic hero of the piece, who was shamelessly tricked by the scheming Mohini (just like their claims that Durga was a "commercial *** worker who entrapped the innocent Mahishasur." What's up, couldn't find a "non-communal" example?

Kejri used to be tagged as "bhagoda." A similar term could now be affixed (affectionately, of course) to Priyanka. "Bhagodi" maybe? Sorry, not strong in Hindi.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ani_sharma » 25 Apr 2019 18:32

Looking at modi's Road show... Just the thought that a native leader is actually getting more traction in 2019 as compared to 2014..brings tears to my eyes..

Little hard to believe what I see..surely going to add to momentum built up in first three phases.

Jai shree ram!!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sudhan » 25 Apr 2019 18:35

Lots of chatter on twitter that Congoons have pulled a Musharaff and are strapping on the skis..

Chest beating by the media is a sight to behold..

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KL Dubey » 25 Apr 2019 18:37

So INC has fielded (Ganpat) Rai again from Varanasi. I guess they can't find anyone else that can take it like a man.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby anishns » 25 Apr 2019 18:38

chetak wrote:a liberandu burnol fest ...


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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 25 Apr 2019 18:54

KL Dubey wrote:So INC has fielded (Ganpat) Rai again from Varanasi. I guess they can't find anyone else that can take it like a man.



more like gandfatrai.

I had a boss with a similar name, a long time ago and he was universally known as "gandfatrai"

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Primus » 25 Apr 2019 18:57

ramana wrote:
ramana wrote:https://twitter.com/ramana_brf/status/1121220271543701505?s=19

Primusji
We got 651 impressions in one hour. Lots of likes.

You need to get a Twitter account.


OMG Ramana Ji, I am speechless!

I am a bit shy of the public sphere, perhaps if our dreams come true and we truly have the new Azadi :)

But thanks, it does seem to get the message across.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 25 Apr 2019 19:17

This guy claims Praveen Patil is playing with folks emotions.
https://twitter.com/AgentSaffron/status ... 4288694272

True, hoax, pys-ops?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby salaam » 25 Apr 2019 19:20

Karan M wrote:This guy claims Praveen Patil is playing with folks emotions.
https://twitter.com/AgentSaffron/status ... 4288694272

True, hoax, pys-ops?


This was discussed few pages back. Further, RamanaJi asked “no more discussion of PP’s motives here”.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby hanumadu » 25 Apr 2019 19:39

Narendra Modi is conducting a road show on narrow roads with tens of thousands of people every where. And its dark.
What is this madness? He should stop this BS.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 25 Apr 2019 19:44

salaam wrote:
Karan M wrote:This guy claims Praveen Patil is playing with folks emotions.
https://twitter.com/AgentSaffron/status ... 4288694272

True, hoax, pys-ops?


This was discussed few pages back. Further, RamanaJi asked “no more discussion of PP’s motives here”.


Thanks
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Boy, this thread moves fast.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Raveen » 25 Apr 2019 19:45

hanumadu wrote:Narendra Modi is conducting a road show on narrow roads with tens of thousands of people every where. And its dark.
What is this madness? He should stop this BS.



Exactly my thoughts - its scary when I saw it on FB


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