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chetak wrote:the crackpots have surfaced again
CPI(M) manifesto: Jisko jitna chahiye, kaat-kaat le jayiye!
Source: With apologies to "Kabir ke dohe" Please use freely on Social Media as per the above.
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Six degrees of separation. Everyone should be sending out alerts on getting out, voting, and ignoring any attempts to not go and vote. BJP cells are grounded and not believing in the win but attempts are out there to make it look other way. They haven't forgotten 2004. They are looking for clear mandate to prevent any post election tactics through supreme court.

India has definitely been paying price by not having any meaningful local presence in the social media platform world. All these social media giants are bending over backwards to chinese demands but complain when asked to do same in India. YouTube interferes constantly. For example, I had to resubscribe multiple times to many indic channels in past few months. Similar about pressing the thumbs up button for video and not registering till multiple clicks. Constantly suggesting content from channels that I have indicated not interested too. Somehow I always have to type in exact details to find pro Hindu videos. Their suggestions would show everything anti of what I'm searching for till I type exactly. For example, during baba rahim episode, the whole YouTube for months got flooded with anti Hindu themed content and YouTube algorithms did zilch to moderate the obvious flooding from hundreds of new handles. YouTube also does nothing to prevent monetizing through uploading of Indian movies and shows by what looks like jihadi outfits collecting funds. And not to forget making us use youtube tv keyboard that functions right to left which after many comments YouTube still hasn't clarified why. Google news up ranks and keeps anti India articles up in your face using dubious algorithms. Recently we noticed how Google news handled Lions air crash with anti Indonesian headlines doing rounds in Google news page for sometime and then after an hour or so everything was down ranked when questions started coming towards Boeing. Twitter has rate limit screen that operates with dubious algorithm. And not to forget random Twitter blocking. Companies like Facebook that can monitor metadata and content in realtime. There were multiple concerns registered lately about how Facebook is integrating WhatsApp and utilizing same architecture as messenger. There should be study done on how many of past few terrorists' social media presence was moderated compared to indic people's.
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imo these SM giants should be asked to submit their algorithms on a continuous basis to govt, localize all subscriber data, or be asked to get out.
something else will always emerge in the vacuum.
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on the subject of Raul vinci as director of Backops ( is it something that Rahul baba was allowed on account of his being under SPG protection?). this was the theory floated to justify his cambridge certificate.
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Especially VDPA,
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manjgu wrote:on the subject of Raul vinci as director of Backops ( is it something that Rahul baba was allowed on account of his being under SPG protection?). this was the theory floated to justify his cambridge certificate.
He often leaves the country without SPG knowledge, now nobody just leaves without arrangements being made, surely there are people in the Home Ministry well aware of his whereabouts when abroad. The letter from Cambridge doesn't look legit to me at all, it doesn't fit into the prescribed format as per OfSted requirements, that too without the student number.
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darshan wrote:Six degrees of separation. Everyone should be sending out alerts on getting out, voting, and ignoring any attempts to not go and vote. BJP cells are grounded and not believing in the win but attempts are out there to make it look other way. They haven't forgotten 2004. They are looking for clear mandate to prevent any post election tactics through supreme court.

India has definitely been paying price by not having any meaningful local presence in the social media platform world. All these social media giants are bending over backwards to chinese demands but complain when asked to do same in India. YouTube interferes constantly. For example, I had to resubscribe multiple times to many indic channels in past few months. Similar about pressing the thumbs up button for video and not registering till multiple clicks. Constantly suggesting content from channels that I have indicated not interested too. Somehow I always have to type in exact details to find pro Hindu videos. Their suggestions would show everything anti of what I'm searching for till I type exactly. For example, during baba rahim episode, the whole YouTube for months got flooded with anti Hindu themed content and YouTube algorithms did zilch to moderate the obvious flooding from hundreds of new handles. YouTube also does nothing to prevent monetizing through uploading of Indian movies and shows by what looks like jihadi outfits collecting funds. And not to forget making us use youtube tv keyboard that functions right to left which after many comments YouTube still hasn't clarified why. Google news up ranks and keeps anti India articles up in your face using dubious algorithms. Recently we noticed how Google news handled Lions air crash with anti Indonesian headlines doing rounds in Google news page for sometime and then after an hour or so everything was down ranked when questions started coming towards Boeing. Twitter has rate limit screen that operates with dubious algorithm. And not to forget random Twitter blocking. Companies like Facebook that can monitor metadata and content in realtime. There were multiple concerns registered lately about how Facebook is integrating WhatsApp and utilizing same architecture as messenger. There should be study done on how many of past few terrorists' social media presence was moderated compared to indic people's.
google, twitter and FB are profit making companies.

someone is paying some kind of a retainer/fees to put a negative spin on matters Hindu nationalist.
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manjgu wrote:on the subject of Raul vinci as director of Backops ( is it something that Rahul baba was allowed on account of his being under SPG protection?). this was the theory floated to justify his cambridge certificate.

How does this compute?
What has company directorship got to do with Cambridge certificate in a different name?

Who got the MPhil? Rahul Gandhi or Raul Vinci?
If Rahul Gandhi got it, where is the certificate?
If Rahul Vinci got it then Rahul.Gandhi has lied in his MP filing.
If Rahul Gandhi and Raul Vinci are same person then it's a fraud for not declaring it all these years.


All show he is ineligible to be an MP.

Then there is the citizenship issue.
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mmasand wrote:
manjgu wrote:on the subject of Raul vinci as director of Backops ( is it something that Rahul baba was allowed on account of his being under SPG protection?). this was the theory floated to justify his cambridge certificate.
He often leaves the country without SPG knowledge, now nobody just leaves without arrangements being made, surely there are people in the Home Ministry well aware of his whereabouts when abroad. The letter from Cambridge doesn't look legit to me at all, it doesn't fit into the prescribed format as per OfSted requirements, that too without the student number.
Any guy plugged into the airline business has a good idea where he travels, if one is so inclined to find out.

passenger manifestos are sent to destination airports well ahead of an airliner's arrival unless one is travelling using a personally hired/borrowed business jet, then it becomes slightly more difficult to track but not impossible.

That's exactly what intelligence agencies are meant to do, no

The GoI knows fully well where and why he goes out of India. After all, aren't passports scanned and read at every port of entry and exit.
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Dr. Praveen Patil:
Lutyens media & historians will soon peddle the theory that "Modi won 2019 only because of Balakot airstrikes", don't fall for it
Having travelled everywhere in India, can vouch that it is purely his governance that is giving him this massive mandate! https://t.co/C2RQKDyYgb

2019 will probably be defined by an India of 99% homes with bijlee + 90% with toilets + 87% with cooking gas + near 100% bank accounts

Sadly, this is where the left-liberals win. Even if Modi gets a huge mandate in 2019, the narrative builders will write their own version of history and get away with it. Future generations will scarcely know what was India like before 2014 and what was Modi disruption all about

A simple example from the past: there are a million research papers & thesis on how NREGA or RTI (by Sonia Gandhi) have changed India, but you will find near to nothing about NTP of Vajpayee that is the foundation of telecom revolution in India (bet even most RW folks don't know)
https://twitter.com/5Forty3/status/8905 ... 91269?s=19
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ramana wrote:
manjgu wrote:on the subject of Raul vinci as director of Backops ( is it something that Rahul baba was allowed on account of his being under SPG protection?). this was the theory floated to justify his cambridge certificate.

How does this compute?
What has company directorship got to do with Cambridge certificate in a different name?

Who got the MPhil? Rahul Gandhi or Raul Vinci?
If Rahul Gandhi got it, where is the certificate?
If Rahul Vinci got it then Rahul.Gandhi has lied in his MP filing.
If Rahul Gandhi and Raul Vinci are same person then it's a fraud for not declaring it all these years.


All show he is ineligible to be an MP.

Then there is the citizenship issue.
Ramana Saar, this is all background noise. I'm convinced Composite Resin and FlashForge are used to pocket legit govt funds which are then peddled in Europe towards companies like Analytica.
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https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/1 ... 2768649216

why do all um worshippers in such gatherings seem to sport the dazed kind of look. aimlessly jumping up and down in the throes of their ecstasy...

they look fairly ok economically and educated.
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chetak wrote:
darshan wrote:There should be study done on how many of past few terrorists' social media presence was moderated compared to indic people's.
google, twitter and FB are profit making companies.

someone is paying some kind of a retainer/fees to put a negative spin on matters Hindu nationalist.
Profit making and their algorithms taking external inputs like in case of Boeing are given. Imo there are many other aspects to it. For example, in China these companies have short term profits while in India they have short to long term profits but these companies have no issues bending over backwards. I'm surprised that with so many Indians working for these companies we don't have any leaks on how these companies do business when it comes to anti Hindu to anti India activities especially if it's all nothing but for profits.
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Singha wrote:https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/1 ... 2768649216

why do all um worshippers in such gatherings seem to sport the dazed kind of look. aimlessly jumping up and down in the throes of their ecstasy...

they look fairly ok economically and educated.
Singha ji, here's the video proving SCIENTIFICALLY- BIOLOGICALLY what actually happens:
Priest says God has entered his body .... watch God leaving the body too https://t.co/YHIRfH5gLc
Priest says God has entered his body .... watch God leaving the body too
https://t.co/YHIRfH5gLc
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this should be the take away on the counting day, May 23 2019.

everyone eligible to vote must go out and do so when their turn comes.



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Karthik S wrote:My point is that mango kafirs in towns and villages across various states won't be seeing PP or Cvoter etc to stay back at home, the turnout so far fairly supports that hypothesis. So let's not dhoti shiver. BJP is worker based party, and other than few places, we haven't seen any reports that karyakartas are sitting at home they way they did during 2009.
More importantly, Modi mentioned this also in his (Aaj Tak, iirc) interview. So clearly the leadership is aware and will ensure their cadres are on their toes to turn out the vote.
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I hope these idiots peddle all the wrong theories if Modi wins, because then they will lose because they fell for their own propaganda.
Manish_Sharma wrote:
Dr. Praveen Patil:
Lutyens media & historians will soon peddle the theory that "Modi won 2019 only because of Balakot airstrikes", don't fall for it
Having travelled everywhere in India, can vouch that it is purely his governance that is giving him this massive mandate! https://t.co/C2RQKDyYgb

2019 will probably be defined by an India of 99% homes with bijlee + 90% with toilets + 87% with cooking gas + near 100% bank accounts

Sadly, this is where the left-liberals win. Even if Modi gets a huge mandate in 2019, the narrative builders will write their own version of history and get away with it. Future generations will scarcely know what was India like before 2014 and what was Modi disruption all about

A simple example from the past: there are a million research papers & thesis on how NREGA or RTI (by Sonia Gandhi) have changed India, but you will find near to nothing about NTP of Vajpayee that is the foundation of telecom revolution in India (bet even most RW folks don't know)
https://twitter.com/5Forty3/status/8905 ... 91269?s=19
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Arihant


@haryannvi

Just came to hotel a while back. Was in Salon constituency of Amethi LS since morning. This is 7th seat I am covering.

Have been critical of Modi on some issues. But past 1 month has humbled me. U have to see it to believe it. What craze for him especially among poorest of poor.
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ANI

Verified account

@ANI

PM Modi in Sreerampur: Didi said she wants to give me rasgulla made of soil & pebbles.Soil of Bengal has essence of greats like Ramakrishna Paramhansa,Swami Vivekananda,JC Bose,Netaji,SP Mukherjee & if Modi gets rasgulla made of this holy soil then it will be a 'prasad' for Modi
:rotfl:
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Rahul Kanwal

Verified account

@rahulkanwal

Went to see progress of Kashi Vishwanath Heritage corridor. @narendramodi pet Varanasi project. Once Vishwanath Dham is ready by 2022 it will be a world attraction. Attempt to evict encroachers from historical sites. Stunning temples being found from underneath illegal structures
I am convinced one more term ... things are going to change significantly.
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vijayk wrote:
The idiots in Wire are spreading their propaganda by pushing lies as prediction during election phases.

The fact that pollster calls out as sham is rather telling.
At this point, it is better to say it is tough for BJP/NDA to win. That will wake up people to go vote. Besides predictions are all based on a model. If you take the 2014 raw vote count project that with a current population then this prediction will work. That is really a dumb model but that is how the opposition parties will have to motivate their cadres. :wink:
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We can only hope Modi comes back. I have very little hope from many sections of the Indian populace which have complete clowns, full of either leftist propaganda or their own arrogance, or tendency to use Modi/BJP as a foil for their personal frustrations.
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Well nature takes no hostages, similarly any civilization too dumb and ignorant is marked for extinction. If people are still clowns after all these years then won't be surprised by demise of our faith and civilization.
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vijayk wrote:
Rahul Kanwal

Verified account

@rahulkanwal

Went to see progress of Kashi Vishwanath Heritage corridor. @narendramodi pet Varanasi project. Once Vishwanath Dham is ready by 2022 it will be a world attraction. Attempt to evict encroachers from historical sites. Stunning temples being found from underneath illegal structures
I am convinced one more term ... things are going to change significantly.
Yes, but only if house cleaning is started right from day one itself without wasting any time.

@rahulkanwal is slyly covering all his bases as well as his sorry paid for butt.
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vijayk wrote:
Rahul Kanwal

Verified account

@rahulkanwal

Went to see progress of Kashi Vishwanath Heritage corridor. @narendramodi pet Varanasi project. Once Vishwanath Dham is ready by 2022 it will be a world attraction. Attempt to evict encroachers from historical sites. Stunning temples being found from underneath illegal structures
I am convinced one more term ... things are going to change significantly.
And Raita Wing (seemingly Hindu but working to cut off the same branch on which they sit) are still so anti-Modi because of some or other pet peeve that is not solved from their perspective and their own way!
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Karthik S wrote:Well nature takes no hostages, similarly any civilization too dumb and ignorant is marked for extinction. If people are still clowns after all these years then won't be surprised by demise of our faith and civilization.
Sadly true. Lets hope for the best though.
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Swarajyamag has been reporting articles covering various LS constituencies they do a deep dive into. This one is about Tender Singh Yadav's birthplace and former BSP supremo Kanshi Ram's home constituency Etawah:
In Etawah, BSP-SP Alliance Hopes To Recreate 1991 Success Story But Several Factors May Work Against It
The artlcle is interesting in how it investigates the Mahathugbandhan dynamics, with the constituency being a microcosm, but with some interesting insights:
At our first stop in Etawah city in Uttar Pradesh, we meet three men, all in their late 50s, at a grocery shop. Ram Prakash Yadav, Rakesh Kumar Goswami (a brahmin) and Kuldip Kumar Nai (a dalit). All three say they want Narendra Modi as the next prime minister.

However, not all will be voting for the Bharatiya Janata Party when the Etawah Lok Sabha constituency goes to polls today.

Yadav gives his reasons why he would vote for the gathbandhan. "We know Kamlesh. He often visits our area and even touches out feet," he says. Kamlesh Katheria, son of former Samajwadi Party MP Prem Shankar Katheria, is the candidate for SP-Bahujan Samaj Party alliance.

Ram Prakash Yadav says he cannot think of any alternative to Modi and that Modi is good for the country. "But we have to stand with our community. Anyway, one vote wouldn't make a difference," he says, and adds, "Ayega to Modi hi (Modi is sure to come)."

Goswami says his family has always voted for the BJP and this time would be no different. Kuldip Nai, an SP voter, says he will vote for the BJP for the first time. "Modi is good. He is good in every way. He is good for the country and good for Indians," he says. He seems thrilled about voting for Modi.

Ram Prakash Yadav cuts in, "Even my son will vote for Modi. Young people do not think like us."

A little away in the same market, Mohammad Irshad, 40, is repairing electrical appliances. He says he will vote for the gathbandhan because all the development we see around in Etawah has been done by Akhilesh Yadav. He, however, adds that he is not against Modi. "I don't say Modi is bad. I wouldn't mind him as the next PM, but Akhilesh deserves to win from here," he says.
Three different opinions:
* Older Yadav voter chooses out of biradari, even though he likes and wants Modi at the helm. A somewhat disingenuous and dangerous voting dynamic because it causes inadvertent split votes by those who think someone else will cast enough votes for Modi. This kind of voting behavior has historically returned fractured verdicts.
* Younger Yadavs have no affinity to SP on caste basis (potentially same for Dalits and BSP), indicating such parties are a generation away from extinction. Also indicates that in future, mandates will be more decisive towards national parties and development focused initiatives.
* The Muslim vote sounds basically confused. Akhilesh is not even the Etawah candidate. Sounds like he's saying what he's been told to do, predictably.
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Wish ppl here wouldn't use illiterate colonial terms such as "Juggernaut" imitating drunken Brishit Ahmy idiots. The correct spelling if u want it is
"Jagan Nath"
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I am looking at the states where NDA is losing and the following come to mind that is 19 out of 29 States. Its quite worrying that inspite of exemplary work Modi has his work cut out for him

UPA will probably win in following states
JK, PJ, HA, UP, RJ, WB, Most of North East, KA, AP, TL, TN, KL, OR
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tandav wrote:I am looking at the states where NDA is losing and the following come to mind that is 19 out of 29 States. Its quite worrying that inspite of exemplary work Modi has his work cut out for him

UPA will probably win in following states
JK, PJ, HA, UP, RJ, WB, Most of North East, KA, AP, TL, TN, KL, OR

Which pani puri seller told you this now?
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tandav wrote:I am looking at the states where NDA is losing and the following come to mind that is 19 out of 29 States. Its quite worrying that inspite of exemplary work Modi has his work cut out for him

UPA will probably win in following states
JK, PJ, HA, UP, RJ, WB, Most of North East, KA, AP, TL, TN, KL, OR
Awfully kind of you to leave some states for the BJP/NDA. May I ask why you decided to leave 10 states for the BJP/NDA, so that Amit Shah doesn't feel bad? :(( :P
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It's OK. Just a more "sophisticated" version of Dilbu raja. No more actual substance than saying "Modi Will Lose Onlee :(( :(( :(( " But a lot more words to sound as if some serious data-based analysis has been undertaken to reach the conclusion (spoiler alert, it hasn't).
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INC is pursuing a fairly sophisticated IT cell strategy. Top comments on any NDA related development in any FB article/post are invariably negative. With 100+ likes etc. You might be swayed into thinking the ppl are reflexively anti NDA/BJP. But look closer, and as you scroll down, you'll see the other comments etc. They are doing this entirely on "neutral" ground where they feel they can influence ppl i.e. generic India today, newsmedia type articles. And some idiots do get influenced. One of my acquaintances is busy forwarding Raj Thackeray, Dhruv Rathee and other videos 24/7 and also smugly quotes that "if you follow social media, you will see publics mood has changed". Seriously, this is the level of intelligence of ppl & reason for them taking an anti BJP/modi stand. Same guy was busy bemoaning how BJP power centralization would lead to criminalization of politics (huh?) and is a fan of the erudite and civilized Raj Thackeray. Someone remarked that RaGa is still surviving in politics because many with the same IQ/morals reflexively identify with him & INC. I now suspect it is very true.
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Each major WhatsApp group seems to have such negative write up spreaders. Send anything positive with evidence and they would reply back with scripted responses. Many YouTube videos out there with very high view counts. Are they gaming the system? Is system being allowed to be gamed? Are INC haters watching that content to get the kick out of it? How come similar number of view counts not seen on indic videos?
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congi/aaptards r particular ..if they r caught in a whatsapp group dominated by sanghis where they can't peddle lies and influence , they simply get lost to invest same energy some where else, peacefuls follow them in guise of 'mahaul theek nahi' will join after election
this happened on school wapp group
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Karan M wrote:
tandav wrote:I am looking at the states where NDA is losing and the following come to mind that is 19 out of 29 States. ....
Awfully kind of you to leave some states for the BJP/NDA. May I ask why you decided to leave 10 states for the BJP/NDA, so that Amit Shah doesn't feel bad? :(( :P
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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BJP opened fertiliser factory in Begusarai which was closed for decades. Now locals want 75% jobs reserved for locals. They say they will vote for Kanhaiyya Kumar because he will agitate to close the factory if their demands are not met. Wah Hindu voter!
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/kanhai ... -helps-bjp
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darshan wrote:Each major WhatsApp group seems to have such negative write up spreaders. Send anything positive with evidence and they would reply back with scripted responses. Many YouTube videos out there with very high view counts. Are they gaming the system? Is system being allowed to be gamed? Are INC haters watching that content to get the kick out of it? How come similar number of view counts not seen on indic videos?
Bot armies are being used by BIF forces.

Con party maintains its iron grips on MSM, it does not allow any ideological competitor there.

They came up with the Me2 campaign to get M J Akbar, the only old school doyen of MSM in BJP camp. As soon as he resigned, Me2 died down. The other targetted ones - Nana Patekar, Alok Nath etc were all in RW camp. Accused in their own side, Vinod Dua and Tejpal as well as all the new age stand up comedians, all are going strong as if nothing happened.

In 2014 they were lacking the heft in SM space. One of the major reasons for Modi Wave. The foreign handlers of RaGa over the course of 3 years built up the east oiro bot army for BIF forces. Hence anything coming out of that camp in MSM is getting amplified in SM and anything on RW side is facing "astroturfing".
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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There is a war on RW Twitter accounts as well with several getting suspended for frivolous reasons. TrueIndology is the latest victim (again).
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