2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Picklu » 30 Apr 2019 23:51

They sent legal notice to Atheist_Krishna and Skin doctor. Doxxed squint neon.

RishiBagree and Bagga got suspended multiple times.

Swati GS and Nupur J Sharma gets hounded on daily basis.

The bot army based adverse reporting at the full swing.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 30 Apr 2019 23:52

nachiket wrote:There is a war on RW Twitter accounts as well with several getting suspended for frivolous reasons. TrueIndology is the latest victim (again).

Rishi Bagree before that. That is the price of using platforms like Twitter controlled by the other side.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 30 Apr 2019 23:53

INC IT Cell is spending like crazy on english SM. BJP response is mostly by enthusiastic but unpaid guys with some firms involved in spreading news/content via automated means. Perhaps the real battle is in vernacular media.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 30 Apr 2019 23:56

Left wing minds work in using laws/rules to achieve their goals of suppressing RW voice.

The RW on the other hand are ignorant of the laws and rules and repeatedly think its brave to speak out and thus leave themselves open to such suppression tactics.
Even here we had folks who used to use Forum rules selectively and force suppression.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby banrjeer » 30 Apr 2019 23:56

baba banarasi seems to be gone too. tweeting in hindi could make you less susceptible to censorship.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Picklu » 30 Apr 2019 23:56

That turd Hamid Ansari rapidly expanded RSTV with ndtv trainees. DogVijay's current wife is one of them.

Later the BiF forces set up multiple digital shops to employ them once Hamid Ansari was out.

That's how all these scroll, wire, quint, altnews, factcheck and other such Social media ampliers were born. They are just like the digital version of green police and civic police from Jihadidi's WB.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby banrjeer » 30 Apr 2019 23:59

tarek fatah is a survivor

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 01 May 2019 00:01

Karan M wrote:INC IT Cell is spending like crazy on english SM. BJP response is mostly by enthusiastic but unpaid guys with some firms involved in spreading news/content via automated means. Perhaps the real battle is in vernacular media.

Very perceptive.
Congress thinks the Twitteratti will influence the voters.
However that is the urban voters in teh big metros.
And even here its only in Delhi and that too Lootyens.

Chennai, Hyderabad, and Kolkata have their own dynamics.

And Bengluru was turned with the South seat nomination of Tejasvi Surya as that took away the NOTA vote.

And its the rural that vote and they all are voting for NaMo.

E.g.
Rita Bahuguna was chosen as the BJP candidate in UP.
There was no time for posters showing her face.
She said just put posters with NaMo the election is about him only!!!!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Picklu » 01 May 2019 00:01

banrjeer wrote:tarek fatah is a survivor


He is a Canadian Pakistani. Hence outside con party radar.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby IndraD » 01 May 2019 00:02

cos tarek fatah is a muslim
any Hindu/Xtian writing that content wld be branded Islamophobic and KIA
Yes one solution is to let muslim SM unleash havoc for you

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sanjaykumar » 01 May 2019 00:03

Singha wrote:https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/1122896292768649216

why do all um worshippers in such gatherings seem to sport the dazed kind of look. aimlessly jumping up and down in the throes of their ecstasy...

they look fairly ok economically and educated.



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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 01 May 2019 00:04

nachiket wrote:There is a war on RW Twitter accounts as well with several getting suspended for frivolous reasons. TrueIndology is the latest victim (again).

the solution is not complaining to twitter (who are under no compunction, legally speaking, to be fair to Indians) but to move away from twitter to platforms like https://gutrgoo.com/

PIF need to vote with their feet and make these irrelevant.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KL Dubey » 01 May 2019 00:04

Suraj wrote:Swarajyamag has been reporting articles covering various LS constituencies they do a deep dive into. This one is about Tender Singh Yadav's birthplace and former BSP supremo Kanshi Ram's home constituency Etawah:


Reading the whole article, it seems it is quite consistent with what BB claims his data is showing. Basically, there is a lot of counter-polarization in favor of BJP, plus the MGB vote-banks are not at all "leak-proof"...considerable numbers voting for Modi.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby mmasand » 01 May 2019 00:06

Karan M wrote:INC IT Cell is spending like crazy on english SM. BJP response is mostly by enthusiastic but unpaid guys with some firms involved in spreading news/content via automated means. Perhaps the real battle is in vernacular media.


I have seen the BJP digital war-room. It is nothing how you describe it. :D
The BB Prof is producing perhaps 1% of what is happening at BJP HQ.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Picklu » 01 May 2019 00:06

Picklu wrote:
banrjeer wrote:tarek fatah is a survivor


He is a Canadian Pakistani. Hence outside con party radar.


Similar to Tarek Fatah, Imam Touhidi is Australian. Hence these guys are not targeted by Indian LW in the same fashion.

However, both have accounts suspended multiple times from their own corners (Muslim).

White skins gets a bit leeway, David Fawley etc are again not trolled and banned in the same fashion.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 01 May 2019 00:07

Rahul M wrote:
nachiket wrote:There is a war on RW Twitter accounts as well with several getting suspended for frivolous reasons. TrueIndology is the latest victim (again).

the solution is not complaining to twitter (who are under no compunction, legally speaking, to be fair to Indians) but to move away from twitter to platforms like https://gutrgoo.com/

PIF need to vote with their feet and make these irrelevant.


We'll be in an echo chamber. The vast majority of undecided voters/folks will be left for the BIF jokers to target.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 01 May 2019 00:09

mmasand wrote:
Karan M wrote:INC IT Cell is spending like crazy on english SM. BJP response is mostly by enthusiastic but unpaid guys with some firms involved in spreading news/content via automated means. Perhaps the real battle is in vernacular media.


I have seen the BJP digital war-room. It is nothing how you describe it. :D
The BB Prof is producing perhaps 1% of what is happening at BJP HQ.


I am saying the BJP Digital War room etc are (perhaps) focusing mostly on vernacular media. The english SM effort is being led by individuals with (often) individual efforts. I have been tracking the English SM effort from both sides for >6 years now and frankly, the INC effort is more pervasive and well funded.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Picklu » 01 May 2019 00:11

Rahul M wrote:
nachiket wrote:There is a war on RW Twitter accounts as well with several getting suspended for frivolous reasons. TrueIndology is the latest victim (again).

the solution is not complaining to twitter (who are under no compunction, legally speaking, to be fair to Indians) but to move away from twitter to platforms like https://gutrgoo.com/

PIF need to vote with their feet and make these irrelevant.


The advantage of twitter is the widespread acceptance. Until and unless some big shots/influencers move out or create parallel account in gutrgoo, nothing will happen.

I don't know why NaMo and rest of BJP big shots create parallel accounts in gutrgoo with fan fare and start posting in both mediums in parallel.

If RW big shots don't support RW platforms, who will?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 01 May 2019 00:12

Thanks R sir.

I think folks like me (english speaking metro dudes) are merely a drop in the vast sea that is the Indian polity. Sometimes, the reality is brought forward by the shock surprise of the MP, CG, Raj upsets. Now, I hope the same surprise will be sprung on all the elite BIF who are caught up in their respective SM echo chambers forwarding hate messages against Modi, duly paid for by their party's IT cells.

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Karan M wrote:INC IT Cell is spending like crazy on english SM. BJP response is mostly by enthusiastic but unpaid guys with some firms involved in spreading news/content via automated means. Perhaps the real battle is in vernacular media.

Very perceptive.
Congress thinks the Twitteratti will influence the voters.
However that is the urban voters in teh big metros.
And even here its only in Delhi and that too Lootyens.

Chennai, Hyderabad, and Kolkata have their own dynamics.

And Bengluru was turned with the South seat nomination of Tejasvi Surya as that took away the NOTA vote.

And its the rural that vote and they all are voting for NaMo.

E.g.
Rita Bahuguna was chosen as the BJP candidate in UP.
There was no time for posters showing her face.
She said just put posters with NaMo the election is about him only!!!!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 01 May 2019 00:15

ramana wrote:Left wing minds work in using laws/rules to achieve their goals of suppressing RW voice.

The RW on the other hand are ignorant of the laws and rules and repeatedly think its brave to speak out and thus leave themselves open to such suppression tactics.
Even here we had folks who used to use Forum rules selectively and force suppression.


The lack of legal support from RW sources is a big dampener. This is where BJP/RW/RSS have completely let go of the ball. Our guys routinely get targeted and no clear action is taken. That "killer instinct" to protect their own is lacking on the RW party's side.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Picklu » 01 May 2019 00:17

Picklu wrote:
Rahul M wrote:the solution is not complaining to twitter (who are under no compunction, legally speaking, to be fair to Indians) but to move away from twitter to platforms like https://gutrgoo.com/

PIF need to vote with their feet and make these irrelevant.


The advantage of twitter is the widespread acceptance. Until and unless some big shots/influencers move out or create parallel account in gutrgoo, nothing will happen.

I don't know why NaMo and rest of BJP big shots create parallel accounts in gutrgoo with fan fare and start posting in both mediums in parallel.

If RW big shots don't support RW platforms, who will?


Having a parallel RW platform is absolute must as a sanctuary. All RW journalists would have been chased out by now without swarajyamag. BRF provides the same functionalities for Indian military enthusiasts.

gutrgoo is the need of the hour to counter twitter (face book is mostly dying anyway and whatsapp is not moderated anyway). Need a high publicity mass movement of right wing influencers to create parallel accounts in gutrgoo.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby mmasand » 01 May 2019 00:18

Karan M wrote:
mmasand wrote:
I have seen the BJP digital war-room. It is nothing how you describe it. :D
The BB Prof is producing perhaps 1% of what is happening at BJP HQ.


I am saying the BJP Digital War room etc are (perhaps) focusing mostly on vernacular media. The english SM effort is being led by individuals with (often) individual efforts. I have been tracking the English SM effort from both sides for >6 years now and frankly, the INC effort is more pervasive and well funded.


Unfortunately boss, what we see on our screen is very different from the reality. They even have a mesh to separate the bots from the chaff to pinning where the data point of resent is coming from against sentiment in that geographical area. INC are heavily reliant on contractors whilst BJP has bought the GIS package from ESRI to do their work. Needless to say, twitter doesn't even represent a handful of voters in the larger scheme. As you said vernacular media is on the forefront, and there is sufficient information to know who is reading the digital editions and how to reinforce the message. All credit to Arvind Gupta though.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Picklu » 01 May 2019 00:20

Karan M wrote:
ramana wrote:Left wing minds work in using laws/rules to achieve their goals of suppressing RW voice.

The RW on the other hand are ignorant of the laws and rules and repeatedly think its brave to speak out and thus leave themselves open to such suppression tactics.
Even here we had folks who used to use Forum rules selectively and force suppression.


The lack of legal support from RW sources is a big dampener. This is where BJP/RW/RSS have completely let go of the ball. Our guys routinely get targeted and no clear action is taken. That "killer instinct" to protect their own is lacking on the RW party's side.


With 70 years experience, Con party has mastered these 2 things:

1. How to create a patronage network (They built the facebook/twitter army in 3 years from a far lagging position) using their intellectual folks and x-ndtv glorified online trolls
2. How to ruthlessly cut down the opponents using ANY means

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby nachiket » 01 May 2019 00:23

Karan M wrote:The lack of legal support from RW sources is a big dampener. This is where BJP/RW/RSS have completely let go of the ball. Our guys routinely get targeted and no clear action is taken. That "killer instinct" to protect their own is lacking on the RW party's side.

Legal notices are one part of the problem. But these notices are usually devoid of any substance and don't go very far. Their intent is to muzzle the voices of course, which they do achieve. RW voices have been muzzled in msm all along by the commie owners. They finally found a voice in SM but even that is under threat now. On the other hand the rise of Republic, Swarajya and Opindia to take on the msm in their own sphere is encouraging.

The switch to desi platforms like gutrgoo has to be led by RW accounts with a large number of followers. People like us who usually just like and retweet the popular folk can do little by moving ourselves.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sudeepj » 01 May 2019 00:24

A separate new platform is a non-starter. We need a local legal framework, a charter of rights for Indians on social media to make these platforms hew to our requirements. This was happening by @ianuragthakur, but sadly, elections came in and the whole thing slowed down. But I think it will happen.. There is sufficient mass, emotion on our side.. and hopefully, also the numbers after the election results.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby nachiket » 01 May 2019 00:26

Moving to other platforms also means you are conceding real estate permanently. If they can push us off Twitter there is no reason why they can't do it later on Gutrgoo as well. These people are basically like pakis in this.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 01 May 2019 00:31

Kanson wrote:People here started with numbers like 220- for bjp. After 3rd phase , there are reports that bjp can reach majority on its own. What kind of analysis is this to say 220/240 then? Just that they are giving beautiful terms like 'Optimism' for their own dilemma. They are hiding behind such fanciful terms. Thats all.



For BJP 220 was the baseline before the start of the polls. But the first phase had spectacular battles which we don't understand except in hind sight.
The two Telugu states on same day basically confined them to their own areas without spillover effect. The results of that day made CBN non-viable. Another hidden factor was Chattisgarh on that day confined the Naxals and EJs there as it was more important to them than neighboring TG and AP.

Maharashtra showed DF as a masterful politician. By allying with UT he ensured NDA will sweep. Jihadidi having elections in all phases ensured she is confined to WB and not move out. The BSP and SP are fighting each other and Minorities are not supporting them. Those who voted are supporting Congress and others don't want to be part of losing group and stayed home. So much so that BJP held their won in these 3 phases.
From now on we will see a hockey stick pattern as the battles move into BJP friendly areas.

Moreover public sentiment will be with the winner and it adds its won un-measurable exponential component.

Quite a lot of estimates have been done by our own members and used to track the progress.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 01 May 2019 00:34

KL Dubey wrote:
Suraj wrote:Swarajyamag has been reporting articles covering various LS constituencies they do a deep dive into. This one is about Tender Singh Yadav's birthplace and former BSP supremo Kanshi Ram's home constituency Etawah:


Reading the whole article, it seems it is quite consistent with what BB claims his data is showing. Basically, there is a lot of counter-polarization in favor of BJP, plus the MGB vote-banks are not at all "leak-proof"...considerable numbers voting for Modi.


This was true even in 2014.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 01 May 2019 00:35

Karan M wrote:
ramana wrote:Left wing minds work in using laws/rules to achieve their goals of suppressing RW voice.

The RW on the other hand are ignorant of the laws and rules and repeatedly think its brave to speak out and thus leave themselves open to such suppression tactics.
Even here we had folks who used to use Forum rules selectively and force suppression.


The lack of legal support from RW sources is a big dampener. This is where BJP/RW/RSS have completely let go of the ball. Our guys routinely get targeted and no clear action is taken. That "killer instinct" to protect their own is lacking on the RW party's side.



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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Mort Walker » 01 May 2019 00:46

Singha wrote:imo these SM giants should be asked to submit their algorithms on a continuous basis to govt, localize all subscriber data, or be asked to get out.
something else will always emerge in the vacuum.


+1001

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby VKumar » 01 May 2019 00:58

mmasand wrote:
Karan M wrote:
I am saying the BJP Digital War room etc are (perhaps) focusing mostly on vernacular media. The english SM effort is being led by individuals with (often) individual efforts. I have been tracking the English SM effort from both sides for >6 years now and frankly, the INC effort is more pervasive and well funded.


Unfortunately boss, what we see on our screen is very different from the reality. They even have a mesh to separate the bots from the chaff to pinning where the data point of resent is coming from against sentiment in that geographical area. INC are heavily reliant on contractors whilst BJP has bought the GIS package from ESRI to do their work. Needless to say, twitter doesn't even represent a handful of voters in the larger scheme. As you said vernacular media is on the forefront, and there is sufficient information to know who is reading the digital editions and how to reinforce the message. All credit to Arvind Gupta though.


Congress SM has the top Lutyens prestitutes.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sudeepj » 01 May 2019 00:58

Here is one charter of rights for Indian social media users:

1. Users have free speech and shall not be restricted unless there is a police complaint or a complaint from a legal authority.
2. Users shall not have their 'news feed' changed to show them political news that is biased (or targeted towards confirming the users biases) in a certain direction. Any algorithmic adjustment that results in this effect is prohibited.
3. There is no right to 'anonymous' free speech. If a user has more than 300 followers/subscribers/friends, they will need to authenticate that they are an Indian person by presenting an aadhar card.
4. If a user has been shown a false news originating from a fake news campaign, or a foreign source, they shall be notified within 7 days of such determination that they have been exposed to fake news. The correct news shall also be identified along with this notification.
5. Govt. shall establish a non-partisan, constitutional body to regulate digital media that shall be in charge of regulating all digital media content.
6. Television and print news is an important infrastructure of democracy and its neutrality in political disputes must be protected at all costs. Therefore a new fairness law shall be passed, that requires that opposing view points of main stream political thought in the country is given equal and fair presence in editorial boards.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 01 May 2019 01:02

Posting my comments on Chengappa article from ASAT thread....
Varoon Shekhar wrote:https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/the-big-story/story/20190408-space-shakti-defence-1488347-2019-03-29

This should work- Chengappa article



A section in the article:

While a political storm soon followed over whether Modi should have announced it in the manner he did and also its timing just before the first phase of the election, the prime minister had every right to take credit for going ahead with the decision to develop and test the missile. What was avoidable, though, was BJP spokespersons implying that the UPA governments did not show the vision or the courage to sanction and develop an A-SAT. As a scientist pointed out, the BMD systems the UPA had sanctioned and developed were a forerunner to the A-Sat missile system. Many of the technologies the BMD system had perfected were indispensable for the A-SAT test and the launch could not have taken place so speedily after it was approved without the continuum the BMD project had provided.


This is nonsense.
ASAT is much more than the BMD is what Chengappa says in the same article. And also says the program pace picked up after Dr. Reddy was appointed in six months before the test.
All this shows its just political claim to say that UPA worked on all the essential tools for the ASAT system but never tested it. Dr Saraswat is on record saying the NSA and his cohort did not give permission to finish the design even.
I submit the NSA Menon knew the space treaty was being negotiated but did not allow development similar to the Hamlet mode in 1968 that hamstrung India under NPT.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 01 May 2019 01:12

Chengappa doesn't understand a basic political truism - the political credit is taken by the entity completing the task. Not the entity who's early actions sowed some of the baseline capabilities. An analogous argument would be "What was avoidable, though, was BJP spokespersons implying that the UPA governments did not show the vision or the courage to build road and toilets. The existing production capacity of steel, cement and asphalt is built upon capacity originally constructed by Banditji in the 1950s."

INC can always make such claims - having ruled for 60 years, pretty much every contemporary effort has something that was done using capability from 'their time'. However, in politics, that does not matter - to the completer goes the spoils. That is why ABV is remembered for Shakti tests and not PVNR, even though the latter was courageous in sanctioning the original effort that the west stymied - he explicitly passed on the task to ABV to get done.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby IndraD » 01 May 2019 01:13

Why Lord Hanuman’s 108-ft grand statue in Delhi’s Karol Bagh area may vanish soon https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... on/941802/

Iconic 108 feet statue based at Karol Bagh Delhi to be removed to improve roads

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 01 May 2019 01:36

One thing I noticed is Modi/Shah are aware of all the things including Twitter. They don't act in haste. They don't comment or try haphazard solutions. They study a lot before acting. Just like NPA issue. They took 3 years to come up with IBC to attack NPA. They setup monitoring infra to monitor exports/imports/DBT/JanDhan. I hope they will address RTE, Education, Police and lack of Indian indigenous solutions for Internet.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby banrjeer » 01 May 2019 01:45

Picklu wrote:
Picklu wrote:
He is a Canadian Pakistani. Hence outside con party radar.


Similar to Tarek Fatah, Imam Touhidi is Australian. Hence these guys are not targeted by Indian LW in the same fashion.

However, both have accounts suspended multiple times from their own corners (Muslim).

White skins gets a bit leeway, David Fawley etc are again not trolled and banned in the same fashion.



We need Mullah & Moolah. Rajiv Malhotra is creating a sober space. Will be looking more to the infinity foundation for some things.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 01 May 2019 02:19

mmasand wrote:
Karan M wrote:
I am saying the BJP Digital War room etc are (perhaps) focusing mostly on vernacular media. The english SM effort is being led by individuals with (often) individual efforts. I have been tracking the English SM effort from both sides for >6 years now and frankly, the INC effort is more pervasive and well funded.


Unfortunately boss, what we see on our screen is very different from the reality. They even have a mesh to separate the bots from the chaff to pinning where the data point of resent is coming from against sentiment in that geographical area. INC are heavily reliant on contractors whilst BJP has bought the GIS package from ESRI to do their work. Needless to say, twitter doesn't even represent a handful of voters in the larger scheme. As you said vernacular media is on the forefront, and there is sufficient information to know who is reading the digital editions and how to reinforce the message. All credit to Arvind Gupta though.


This was my belief as well. The twitter war is a sideshow.
Lets hope so.. even the FB war has become lopsided, but again, how much of it is influencing folks is debatable.

One thing i note is that folks with a more diverse set of friends, receive far fewer likes for anti Modi/BJP posts etc than those in a region where the anti BJP perception is already strong.

Leads me to believe that many remain silent so as to not break ties/friendship, but their personal beliefs remain opposite to that of the anti Modi loudmouths.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Lilo » 01 May 2019 02:51

IndraD wrote:Why Lord Hanuman’s 108-ft grand statue in Delhi’s Karol Bagh area may vanish soon https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... on/941802/

Iconic 108 feet statue based at Karol Bagh Delhi to be removed to improve roads


India's foremost "activist" High court - aka Delhi Highcourt wants to airlift Hanuman ji hain ? :rotfl:

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Lilo » 01 May 2019 03:34


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T5JZ0z6TlU

Priyanka Gandhi & her congress cronies goad minor kids to call the Prime minister of India Modi ji a thief in front of camera.
The kids then raise a disgusting Congress chant that was thought to them that calls the Prime minister Modi a Pimp.
Priyanka Gandhi looks amused at the congie chant calling PM Modi a Pimp but recovers & smilingly says that such a chant is not ok apparently as it is being made in front of the media's running cameras. The kids are then made to chant "Rahul Gandhi Jindabad" !


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