2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby dipak » 03 May 2019 12:15

sanjaykumar wrote:Is luche related to the French word louche?

'Luchche' is derived from the Sanskrit word 'Lochan', which means, 'to watch'.
'Luchcha' is the one who keeps on looking or watching at someone, more often than not obscenely. (jo ghoorta hi chala jaye)

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 03 May 2019 12:16

true pic that. his statements reek of the joker.

he has some deep mental issues for sure.

his plan for development seems like silence and shred anyone who talks of development or anything inconvenient.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 03 May 2019 12:46

Singha wrote:true pic that. his statements reek of the joker.

he has some deep mental issues for sure.

his plan for development seems like silence and shred anyone who talks of development or anything inconvenient.


comes across as entitled, bipolar and PTSD afflicted after the last five years of Modi govt when the family got in back right in their dynastic faces. The first time such a thing has ever happened in India since the days of independence.

they seem to have very conveniently forgotten the brazen lies, libelous attacks, and cruel harassment of modi for over a decade and that infamous "maut ka saudagar" remark by one who is not even an Indian which reeked of imperialism and an imagined royal status.

this comes from a lifetime of being told every day by sycophants and family retainers that being PM is your birthright.

the sister is actually even more vicious if such a thing is at all possible.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby abhijitm » 03 May 2019 12:47

He has mental problem, plus he is brought up as entitled child. Must have been told repeatedly from childhood (mufasa to simba style) 'this kingdom will one day belong to you'.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby abhijitm » 03 May 2019 12:48

^^^ chetak posted the same :D

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 03 May 2019 12:48

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... TOIDesktop

Tehseen Poonawalla, Vishal Dadlani fined 20L for tweets against jain monk


^^^ two of the leading uruk hai gathered around the tower of barad dur. these two are the kind who will destroy and burn even if there is nothing to plunder...just anarchists.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Narad » 03 May 2019 13:36

vijayk wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/squintneon/status/1124021015619809280
This is generally the sentiment of common masses

Daddu seems well informed about current affairs. 8)

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby mmasand » 03 May 2019 14:34

Singha wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/tehseen-poonawalla-vishal-dadlani-fined-20l-for-tweets-against-monk/articleshow/69122337.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIDesktop

Tehseen Poonawalla, Vishal Dadlani fined 20L for tweets against jain monk


^^^ two of the leading uruk hai gathered around the tower of barad dur. these two are the kind who will destroy and burn even if there is nothing to plunder...just anarchists.


No wonder I haven't seen him at my corner chaiwalla (literally) for the last week or so.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vikas » 03 May 2019 15:09

Why were you expecting anything else from RG. For him the Shit just got real. They all thought that NM is one time phenomenon and the crown will come back to Congress after one bout of Modi rule. That's why Congress was happy and enjoying for last 3 years before it hit them that Modi Ji has occupied the mind share and space. They thought this would be redux of 'India Shining' or best Janta experiment. It was the same thought that local Islamic rulers had when they invited Babar as one time loot (Sorry for the wrong analogy). Modi Ji came with lock, stock and barrel and this time he was accompanied by people like Amit Shah instead of Kulkarni and Advani.
Now Rich kid is throwing tantrums and not knowing how to get his fav toy back. Everyday power slips away with no clue on how to crawl back into the game. It has now given rise to anger and resentment which is causing this viciousness. Unfortunately for him, The last white hope a.k.a Bottle Didi turned out to be a whimper instead of big bang and chickened out in Varanasi. They thought they could fight with back against the wall but turned out there is no wall but a cess pool behind them.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 03 May 2019 15:30

Plus next term could see all legal cases mature and end the USP of the family for ever.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby anishns » 03 May 2019 15:58

I think Dilbu has been kidnapped by the Congressis!

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Postby Vikas » 03 May 2019 16:06

Supratik wrote:Plus next term could see all legal cases mature and end the USP of the family for ever.


On top in this age of limited attention span, young restive voters, lack of loyalty mindset, no power and dwindling money chest, It would be hard to make a comeback after 10 years. Like Tech space, There might be some other disruptive electoral force like AAP occupying the space once occupied by Congress by the time 2024 arrives.
Congress may still win a state election here or there but at national level it will be almost moribund by 2024.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vinu » 03 May 2019 16:24

Mort Walker wrote:Where the hell is Dilbu? It's going to his fault entirely if this doesn't work out.


We may need to create a worldwide trend to get Dilbu's attention.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 03 May 2019 16:26

Looks like the interview of PAPPU was a disaster video. So NDTV was asked to suppress it. Only transcript not video.



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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby mmasand » 03 May 2019 16:32

Ditto with India Today, they 'rehashed' his video interview into a written one after lots of chest thumping of having an exclusive piece. Mama bear and snake tickler sis must have made frantic calls to stop it ever hitting a screen.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 03 May 2019 17:06

AAP like parties are urban Naxal delight. Even more dangerous than Congress. Before Madam, Congress had a modicum of nationalism. I am sure urban naxals are vigorously working on a plan to take up the space. What we need is a national opposition party that is not anti-national or anti-hindu.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 03 May 2019 18:08

India Today
@IndiaToday
Replying to
@amitmalviya
The
@RahulGandhi
exclusive to India Today magazine was a print interview. The India Today Group has no video recording of the same. However, the interaction was recorded by
@INCIndia
. We do not have access to it.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sajo21 » 03 May 2019 18:16

Till a few months back, my feed on SM was full of RW narrative, from people I know and interact with on a daily basis, on SM and off it. However, for the last couple of months, I am getting bombarded by left leaning AAPtists posts from people who are mere acquaintances, or with whom I have not been in touch with since many years. I have not liked their posts, not even lingered on them, yet the Facebook algorithms somehow determine that I suddenly should be seeing a lot of their (political) updates. They are far outnumbered too, yet makes no difference to SM algorithms. Either RWingers are becoming complacent or wary or simply have given up on sharing and hence spreading the right wing narrative, or some big money has changed hands to plant the seeds of doubt in the heads of the fence sitters.

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Postby abhijitm » 03 May 2019 18:35

sajo21 wrote:Till a few months back, my feed on SM was full of RW narrative, from people I know and interact with on a daily basis, on SM and off it. However, for the last couple of months, I am getting bombarded by left leaning AAPtists posts from people who are mere acquaintances, or with whom I have not been in touch with since many years. I have not liked their posts, not even lingered on them, yet the Facebook algorithms somehow determine that I suddenly should be seeing a lot of their (political) updates. They are far outnumbered too, yet makes no difference to SM algorithms. Either RWingers are becoming complacent or wary or simply have given up on sharing and hence spreading the right wing narrative, or some big money has changed hands to plant the seeds of doubt in the heads of the fence sitters.

Same on twitter got me surprised. Something sinister is going on. Need to warn them to be neutral or leave. Cannot mix their business with their political view.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 03 May 2019 18:37

Start a Petition with the facts?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby kit » 03 May 2019 18:45

UlanBatori wrote:Start a Petition with the facts?



+101

https://www.change.org/

post with reference to Facebook/twitter and forward, let the world know

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Manish_Sharma » 03 May 2019 18:55

Some may remember that defence ministry under a.k. antony had requested Eurofighter fighter consortium that they wa6to deal with british instead of Germans in mmrca

https://www.opindia.com/2019/03/christi ... r-gandhis/



Christian Michel documents: Rafale delayed because of Eurofighter lobbying and Sweden’s Bofors ‘leverage’ over Gandhis?
While Rahul Gandhi has gone hammer and tongs against the Rafale deal, his own association and the association of the Congress government with dubious arms dealers, middlemen and lobbyists have come to the fore.


NUPUR J SHARMA
MARCH 16, 2019

With the 2019 Lok Sabha elections less than a month away, political parties are now trying to chart out the issues that they think would garner them votes. Congress seems to have decided that the same trope of the Rafale dealwould magically pull them from the political abyss where they got 44 seats in 2014, to a position of political victory.

The Rafale issue has been simmering for months. While the Supreme Court has given a clean chit to the deal and several experts have explained the nuances of the inter-governmental defence deal signed by the Modi government, Rahul Gandhi has consistently raked the issue up in most of his speeches. He has muddled numbers, misrepresented facts and screamed ‘Chowkidaar chor hai’ from the rooftops, without so much as an iota of proof. This unhealthy obsession with a dead issue begs a larger question – what is the real motive behind raking this issue up over and over again? Is it just a misplaced sense of confidence that the issue, if kept alive will pay electoral dividends? Or is there something more than meets the eye?

That question can be answered when we look into the history of the MMRCA deal under the Congress government and the several strings that lead to it.

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The UPA government floated a tender for the acquisition of Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) in August 2007. After the bidding, Eurofighter and Rafale were selected by the UPA government in the final round. Finally, Dassault Rafale was chosen and even after 7 years of negotiations, the deal was never finalised. Finance Minister Arun Jaitley stirred a hornet’s nest by hinting that the MMRCA deal was delayed because there was backroom lobbying going on for the Eurofighter at the time.

It was hinted in the parliament that the MMRCA deal then was delayed because of the lobbying for Eurofighter and also, that Rahul Gandhi and the Congress is today opposing the Rafale deal because they have their hands in the proverbial Eurofighter cookie jar.

One wonders then- were these mere allegations mere political rhetoric, or is there some truth to the allegation that lobbying for the Eurofighter resulted in the delay of Rafale deal during the Congress regime and it is that lobbying because of which Rahul Gandhi is attacking the Rafale deal today?

Rumours had gained strength after an ABP journalist revealed that Rahul Gandhi had met Eurofighters representatives while he was in Germany. However, these were merely in the realm of speculation as no solid evidence had emerged to link Rahul Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi and the lobbying for Eurofighter.

But now, documents accessed by OpIndia establish a direct link between lobbying for Eurofighter and Rahul Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi. The documents also establish that the Congress government may have delayed the Rafale deal because of Sweden’s ‘leverage’ over the Gandhis. These documents are secret notes faxed by Christian Michel to Guido Haschke.

Who is Christian Michel?
Christian Michel is a middleman in the VVIP chopper deal between AgustaWestland and the Indian Air Force (IAF). The wanted fugitive and middleman in the Rs 3,600-crore AgustaWestland chopper deal was brought to India earlier this month following his extradition by the UAE.

Christian Michel is accused of money laundering, bribery, and fraud in connection with the AgustaWestland scam. It is believed that he paid kickbacks to numerous ’eminent personalities’ including celebrity journalists to swing the deal. During his interrogation and court hearings, Michel has reportedly confirmed that the ‘AP’ in his communications refers to Congress’ Ahmed Patel and ‘fam’ means the family. It was revealed that he had mentioned a certain ‘Mrs. Gandhi’ during interrogation and that Michel had spoken about the ‘son of the Italian lady’ who could be the ‘next PM of the country’.

Christian Michel had also revealed that he had access to sensitive documents and the Prime Minister’s Office during the Congress era. While several journalists have tried their best to spin these startling revelations in the AgustaWestland case, it is evident that Christian Michel is inextricably linked to the Gandhi family in this case.

While it has already been revealed that Christian Michel was lobbying for Eurofighter in India, the lobbying’s direct link with the Gandhis is established by this correspondence.

In the fax sent by Christian Michel to Guido Haschke, Michel names ‘The Leading Family’ explicitly while talking about the strategy to lobby for Eurofighter in India

This ‘strategy paper’ was faxed by Michel to Hashcke on 12th August 2010. As seen in the screenshot of the fax, Michel writes to Haschke:

“An in-country bureaucratical and political navigator should be found at once. This man should have worked in the MOD and know well on first name basis and not just the MOD, key bureaucrats and the minister, but also the PM, Finance Minister and Leading Family. There are only 3 candidates for such a job and only one of the 3 is available”.

In this excerpt, it is evident that Michel was suggesting to Hashcke that for Eurofighter to be selected from among the 6 bids, it is imperative that they find an Indian middle man who would be “on a first name basis” with not only people within the Ministry of Defence but also the Prime Minister (PM Manmohan Singh), Finance Minister (P Chidambaram) and ‘the Leading Family’ (Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi).

Michel goes on to say that in India, there are only 3 people for such a job and “only one of the 3 is available”. Presently, one doesn’t know who is the 1 person Michel is referring to in his fax to Haschke, however, it can safely be assumed that this person, who Michel had identified, was “available” to lobby for the Eurofighter with not only the PM, FM and MOD, but also the Gandhis.

Before this strategy paper was faxed, On 20th May 2010, Christian Michel had sent a dispatch from India to Guido R. Haschke, the other middleman in the AgustaWestland deal

Fax sent by Christian Michel to Guido R. Haschke
Christian Michel mentioned a ‘note on MMRCA’ and the contents of that ‘note’ make it amply clear that Michel was lobbying for Eurofighter and against the Rafale deal. In fact, the fax also mentioned one ” Mr P”. The fax read:

“I have sent you an article on Mr P. I think you will understand”.

Michel’s fax
Michel in this email says “Eurofighter is doing no work with the user at the moment to address the issue the IAF feel relevant. Eurofighter do not know what are the key components of the IAF’s thinking, Eurofighter are going through the motions of a sale without the strategic work”.

In another part of the dispatch, Michel writes, “The 3 bosses of maintenance must be lobbied i.e. Chief of Maintainance Command, Air Officer Maintainance and Chief of Engineering”.

In another portion of the dispatch, Christian Michel tells Guido Haschke that UK and Italy are not ‘utilising’ their relations with India and that ‘GIO and IAF’ are confused by the decision of Eurofighter to get the most “inexperienced” member of the consortium in India to sell the jet to India

The reference to Congress and Bofors scandal
The ‘strategy paper’ that was faxed by Christian Michel to Guido Haschke also revealed that Sweden was back in the race because of the leverage it had over the Congress party.



It must be remembered that 6 bids were received by India when the Congress government had floated the MMRCA tender. The bids were by:

1. American F/A-18 ‘Super Hornet’ (Boeing)

2. F-16 ‘Falcon’ (Lockheed Martin)

3. French Rafale (Dassault)

4. Russian MiG-35 (United Aircraft Corporation)

5. Swedish Gripen (SAAB)

6. Eurofighter Typhoon (Airbus consortium)

Christian Michel’s secret note says:

“Even Sweden has leverage over GOI. They were let back in the race in return for Sweden not becoming aggressive over the continuously retrieving of their Bofors gun, which is a Congress scandal in its own right”.

The Rs 1,437 crore deal between India and Swedish arms manufacturer AB Bofors for the supply of 400 155 mm howitzer guns for the Indian Army was entered into on March 24, 1986, when Rajiv Gandhi was the Prime Minister.

Swedish Radio on April 16, 1987, had claimed that the company had paid bribes to top Indian politicians and defence personnel. The scandal was then doggedly pursued by journalist Chitra Subramanian.

While it has already been established that Michel was directly lobbying in India to ensure that Eurofighter wins the bid, it is now interesting to note that Michel had mentioned that Sweden had also been “let back in the race” by the Congress government because of the “leverage” Sweden held against Congress owing to the Bofors scam.

The MMRCA tender was floated by the Congress government in 2007. In 2011, it was the Indian Airforce that had selected Eurofighter and Rafale as the top two contenders. We also know that Michel was lobbying with officers of the IAF to ensure that Eurofighter was selected. But, in 2012, IAF selected the Rafale. However, even after 2012, the MMRCA deal could not go through as there were inordinate delays in the Congress government.

The secret note by Michel was written in 2010, when he says that Sweden was pulled back into the race by the Congress government because of the ‘leverage’ it held against Congress (and presumably, the Gandhi family).

It thus becomes imperative to ask if the Rafale deal was delayed and never finalised by the Congress government not only because Eurofighter was lobbying with the Manmohan Singh, P Chidambaram and the Gandhi family (according to the Michel note) but also because Sweden had “leverage” on the Gandhi family.

‘How can GOI agree to buy the most expensive?’
Christian Michel in his notes had said that the problem with the Eurofighter was Price, Life cycle costs and political support.

We have already dealt with the “political” support aspects as Michel had spoken about Sweden’s sway over Congress due to the Bofors scandal and that Eurofighter would need to find someone who is on a first name basis with the Gandhi, PM Manmohan Singh and P Chidambaram. In fact, in his notes, as we saw, he had said that one such person was ‘available’.

In this section, Michel says that Eurofighter is ‘the most expensive’ and hence, GOI would not agree to buy the jets. The solution he proposes to this end is not to make the pricing cheaper, but to tweak the proposal in such a way that the pricing structure is a complex and composite cost not easily verifiable.

Christian Michel links with Enzo Casolini and Casolini’s shocking statement
In this secret correspondence sent by Christian Michel to Guido Haschke in 2010, Michel says that he has “kept a steady but distant relationship with Enzo”. Enzo Casolini was the then CEO of Eurofighter

In 2010 itself, speaking at a media briefing at the ILA Berlin Air Show 2010, Casolini said, ”The situation is very clear. In order to sell fighter aircraft, apart from the capability [of the aircraft], one of the most important things is the political supportand relationship with the [customer] nation…These are strategic issues.”

A report from 2010 says:

Political ties will play a very big role in determining the outcome of the $11 billion Indian Air Force medium range multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) tender, according to Enzo Casolini, chief executive officer of Eurofighter Jagdflugzeug GmbH. The Eurofighter is one of the contestants for the global tender which has five other defence and aerospace companies in the fray.

In this period, Enzo Casolini was not only in touch with Michel but had also asserted that it is political pressure that will play a determining role in the outcome of the MMRCA bid.

Further, in 2013, while IAF has already selected Dassault Rafale and deep into negotiation with Dassault, Enzo had asserted that Eurofighter is still in the race to win the MMRCA bid. He said:

“We are on standby, in case they come back to us.”

The essential question here is how Casolini was confident of being in the race a whole year after the negotiations had started between Dassault Rafale and the Congress government? Also, in 2010 itself, when Casolini spoke about how “political pressure” plays a determining role in such deals, was he referring to the Gandhi family?

Hint that Enzo Casolini had paid heed to Christian Michel’s ‘strategy document’?
In the strategy document that Christian Michel had sent to Haschke, Michel had put special emphasis on the off-set and transfer of technology clause.



Interestingly, Enzo Casolini had made exactly the same point in 2013, while expressing confidence that Eurofighter is still in the race, despite the Congress government was deep into negotiations with Dassault for Rafale.

Casolini, in 2013 had said:

“I think our technology transfer offer to India was fantastic. And India had a very demanding target.”

It thus begs the questions of whether Enzo Casolini did acknowledge and act upon the lobbying strategy presented by Michel.

Questions Rahul Gandhi must answer
1. Christian Michel has categorically mentioned that the middleman must know the ‘First Family’ on a first name basis. He also had one such person who was ‘available’ to lobby for Eurofighter. Who was this person who was close enough to Rahul Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi, Manmohan Singh and P Chidambaram to be on a ‘first name basis’ with them and was lobbying for Eurofighter, against Rafale?

2. Christian Michel has reportedly already identified ‘AP’ in the AgustaWestland scam as Ahmed Patel. In the Eurofighter lobbying case, who is “Mr P” that Christian Michel referred to in his email to Guido Haschke?

3. Michel says ‘GOI and IAF’ are confused by the decision to have an inexperienced member of the consortium lobby for Eurofighter. Who was this inexperienced member and is this proof that lobbying was indeed taking place?

4. Haschke’s fax, in 2010, says that Sweden was pulled back into the race because Sweden held ‘leverage’ over Congress because of the Bofors scam. What was this ‘leverage’? Was Sweden pulled back into the race because of it?

5. Other than the lobbying for Eurofighter, was Sweden’s ‘leverage’ a reason for the delay in negotiations?

6. The Congress government took 7 years to negotiate with Dassault and yet, the deal was never signed. Defence Minister AK Antony recently said that the MMRCA deal was delayed during the Congress regime “due to national security concerns”. Was the “national security concern” the Eurofighter lobbying or Sweden’s “leverage” on the Gandhis?

7. Christian Michel admits that GOI would never go for Eurofighter because ‘it is the most expensive’. The solution he proposes to this end is not to make the pricing cheaper, but to tweak the proposal in such a way that the pricing structure is a complex and composite cost not easily verifiable. if Eurofighter was the most expensive, how was it included in the top 2 choices? If the prices were competitive, did Eurofighter take Michel’s strategy and tweak the pricing structure in a manner that the composite cost was not verifiable?

8. Was the Congress government aware of this tweaking, if at all?

9. Casolini in 2010 said that “political pressure” would swing the MMRCA deal. Were the Gandhis involved in this “political pressure” in favour of Eurofighter?

10. Why was Enzo Casolini so confident in 2013, after GOI had selected Rafale as the winner, that Eurofighter was still in the running?

11. Was the Rafale deal delayed deliberately so Eurofighter could sneak in?

12. Was this done also to keep the Swedish “leverage” under wraps?

13. Rahul Gandhi’s links with dubious arms dealer Sanjay Bhandari has already been established. Sanjay Bhandari was also a middleman for Airbus, which is a part of the consortium that manufactures Eurofighter. Were Sanjay Bhandari and Christian Michel in touch?

14. Sanjay Bhandari tried to become the offset partner with Dassault. Dassault rejected the agreement. Did his hand not being in the Dassault cookie jar another reason for the delay?

15. Was the Rafale deal delayed so Sanjay Bhandari, as the Airbus middleman, gets his hands in the cookie jar with Eurofighter?

16. Is Rahul Gandhi attacking the Rafale deal and is making attempts to sabotage the deal today because of Eurofighter lobbying and Sweden’s “Bofors leverage”?

While Rahul Gandhi has gone hammer and tongs against the Rafale deal, his own association and the association of the Congress government with dubious arms dealers, middlemen and lobbyists have come to the fore. With such mounting evidence that the Rafale theatric might not be as simple as it looks, Rahul Gandhi cannot afford to continue to lie without answering for the questions being raised against him. With the Bofors scam coming back in the Rafale conversation, it seems to be the right time for Rahul Gandhi to speak up and answer questions.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Manish_Sharma » 03 May 2019 19:08

abhijitm wrote:He has mental problem, plus he is brought up as entitled child. Must have been told repeatedly from childhood (mufasa to simba style) 'this kingdom will one day belong to you'.


This is worrisome, it's like muhammad ghouri attacking again and again 17 times after every defeat. "Fanatical Belief" has unlimited energy.

And even if raul fails 10 -15 years bianca's children can take over, they will shine more due to contrast on dark-retarded raul-bianca background.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Manish_Sharma » 03 May 2019 19:17

https://www.opindia.com/2019/05/why-did ... -telecast/

Why did India Today drop the video interview of Rahul Gandhi that it was apparently about to telecast?
If the interview was supposed to be published as a text interview from the beginning, why would the word 'Watch' be there in the tweet and why would India Today ask its viewers to watch the interview on India Today TV?

Gandhi gave a comprehensive “tell-all” interview to India Today that was published today. In the interview, Rahul Gandhi admitted that his only aim was to tarnish PM Modi’s ‘incorruptible’ image, and the interviewer sat there, without countering the lies and peddling further lies.

While India Today published the litany of lies by Rahul Gandhi, it was curious that a channel like India Today chose to conduct a text interview with Rahul Gandhi instead of a video interview.

A rumour gained wind on Social Media that India Today had indeed conducted a video interview with Rahul Gandhi, but the interview was so bad (some said worse that the blabbering mess the interview with Arnab Goswami was back in 2014), that India Today chose to scrap the video interview and publish a text interview instead.



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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby sajo21 » 03 May 2019 19:20

abhijitm wrote:Cannot mix their business with their political view.


Thats precisely my worry, this seems to be their business, and large amount monetary or regulatory coercion must have gone into setting up of a narrative which is beneficial for all but the people of India. Next few days, I plan to resume sharing, liking and in general trying to leave a digital footprint of my inclinations to see if it changes.

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Postby jamwal » 03 May 2019 19:34

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State of intellectual bankruptcy in #congress. Politician claims that Congress is losing in UP because it doesn't play caste politics. Boasts of being Brahmin face of party in next line. Another #pappu

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby disha » 03 May 2019 20:18

To support CONgoons itself is criminal. And Anti-National.

#Pappu went around asking why NaMo is not giving interviews and #mediapimps picked it up and air'ed it. And when interview after interview after interview of NaMo came (highlight was the Varanasi 3-on-1 interview) #Pappu's interview is "lost".

And #Pappini goes around utilizing kids for uncultured name calling of PM.

My curiosity is on under 40 age people who still support #Pappu and #Pappini. What mental derangement they have to support CONgoons?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby jamwal » 03 May 2019 20:25

"My mother is my sister. My sister is my mother,"
Words of Wisdom from the Clown Prince. :rotfl: Maa Behen Ek kar dena shaayad ise hi kehte hain.
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https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/magazine/ ... 2019-05-02

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby kit » 03 May 2019 20:28

jamwal wrote:"My mother is my sister. My sister is my mother,"
Words of Wisdom from the Clown Prince. :rotfl: Maa Behen Ek kar dena shaayad ise hi kehte hain.
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https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/magazine/ ... 2019-05-02


as one would ask, dude what are you smoking ?!!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 03 May 2019 20:39

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 03 May 2019 20:40

Hes a grade A BSer full of megalomania, who sadly hasn't yet got his proper comeuppance. This interview is full of dope maar gyan.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 03 May 2019 20:44

Too big images


India Today Ad - Watch Rahul Interview
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5pNOLjXsAAgaNc.jpg


Excuse - Above is just Printed interview. We don't have video
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5pNO_JW0AEoWFm.jpg

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby arshyam » 03 May 2019 20:53

Can Congress be compelled to release the video via RTI? After all, RaGa is seeking to hold the highest executive office of the land, and the people have a right to see him speak. No? :?:

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Lilo » 03 May 2019 20:58

sajo21 wrote: Thats precisely my worry, this seems to be their business, and large amount monetary or regulatory coercion must have gone into setting up of a narrative which is beneficial for all but the people of India. Next few days, I plan to resume sharing, liking and in general trying to leave a digital footprint of my inclinations to see if it changes.


Every one here must get this Ritam app installed in their smartphone for starters - and tweet or share in facebook/whatapp news links from it.
Ritam is an RW news aggregator app & faced with powerful news aggregators like Google news etc pushing BIF propaganda of Wire quint scroll BBC caravan NDTV etc topdown into our smartphones such apps need massive support.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... w&hl=en_IN

Install share & give 6 star review

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Lilo » 03 May 2019 21:01

vijayk wrote:Image


Lol imported Asparagus!
No wonder congie pidis stay drunk on pappu mutra
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 03 May 2019 21:07

jamwal wrote:"My mother is my sister. My sister is my mother,"
Words of Wisdom from the Clown Prince. :rotfl: Maa Behen Ek kar dena shaayad ise hi kehte hain.
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https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/magazine/ ... 2019-05-02



We heard of Oedipus and Electra complex. But this confusing mother and sister is special Mughal complex.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Ardeshir » 03 May 2019 21:19

In more colloquial terms, "maa-behen ek karna".

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Manish_Sharma » 03 May 2019 21:29

Lilo wrote:Install share & give 6 star review


Thanks Lilo ji, done. I went to this apps' feedback part and gave it 5 star, 6 star option isn't there.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 03 May 2019 21:44

Lilo wrote:
sajo21 wrote: Thats precisely my worry, this seems to be their business, and large amount monetary or regulatory coercion must have gone into setting up of a narrative which is beneficial for all but the people of India. Next few days, I plan to resume sharing, liking and in general trying to leave a digital footprint of my inclinations to see if it changes.


Every one here must get this Ritam app installed in their smartphone for starters - and tweet or share in facebook/whatapp news links from it.
Ritam is an RW news aggregator app & faced with powerful news aggregators like Google news etc pushing BIF propaganda of Wire quint scroll BBC caravan NDTV etc topdown into our smartphones such apps need massive support.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... w&hl=en_IN

Install share & give 6 star review


Also we need to get onto Gutrgoo ... Indian Twitter version ...

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby rhytha » 03 May 2019 21:44

Tamilnadu Projections by Spick Media (the one which got the 2016 TN Assembly correct)

Parties Seats Vote Percentage
NDA 13 35.25%
UPA 21 38.26%
AMMK-SDPI 5 20.25%
Makkal Needhi Maiam 00 3.12%
Naam Tamilar 00 2.10%
Others 00 1.02%

By Polls

Parties Seats Vote Share
DMK 08 32.29%
AIADMK 05 28.33%
AMMK 04 28.55%
Others 01 10.83%

https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/83899b ... 4707577719
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