2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 07 May 2019 16:13

Prasad wrote:MISEREOR is the German Catholic Bishops' Organisation for Development Cooperation.


Isn't it in Germany 5% of your salary goes to church unless specifically opt-out?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 07 May 2019 16:16



No hope for Congress in UP, WB
upto 14 for BJP in WB
PAPPU gaya
MP,RJ few seats for CON party but not that many.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby mmasand » 07 May 2019 16:21

abhijitm wrote:I am not sure but it seems this CJI thing is about 23 May. If NDA gets majority then expect frivolous lawsuits and petitions. These elements are preparing for the war. I hope Modi is closely watching and preparing his moves.


Makes for good entertainment value like the verdict on VVPAT's today. I'd rather see these people in courts than screaming from a rooftop :democracy is being subverted!

It doesn't matter what they say, eventually the Lutyens eco-system will lose steam and fizzle out.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby M_Joshi » 07 May 2019 16:30

a_bharat wrote: Now, the main reason for me to support him/BJP at the national level is that the alternative is scary.


That is why ..

a_bharat wrote:.. it has become "Modi is India" on this forum.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 07 May 2019 16:30

https://twitter.com/akhileshsharma1/sta ... 3905234944

Read this whole thread ...

They see it but can't accept it ... Trying to poke holes ... groups are saying Modi but individuals are saying MGB or CON. So there is a organized effort and silent voters.

AskileshSharma predicted huge CG victory in assembly as soon as polls overr
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 07 May 2019 16:46

ArjunPandit wrote:Did you guys see the Pranoy Roy carrying mic to a village and interviewing a girl? The girl was speaking from a mugged script.


Didnt see that but what surprised me is Pranoy Roy appeared to be struggling to speak in basic Hindi with the Yadavs at their residence and quickly shifted to English. Wow. Pretty surprising.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 07 May 2019 16:49

BJP Satta Bazar
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 07 May 2019 16:51

abhijitm wrote:I am not sure but it seems this CJI thing is about 23 May. If NDA gets majority then expect frivolous lawsuits and petitions. These elements are preparing for the war. I hope Modi is closely watching and preparing his moves.



look at the range of dramatis personae and some eminence grises who for years have been operating in the shadows of govt policy making and constitutional amendments now arrayed against the CJI.

Naxal sympathisers, ultra-left wing activists and Congress beneficiaries among ’eminent’ people seeking inquiry against CJI


A group of ’eminent’ activists and writers has issued a joint statement on Monday seeking an “an independent and credible inquiry” to look into allegations of sexual harassment against Chief Justice of India (CJI) Ranjan Gogoi.

According leftist propaganda portal, the group of 33 ’eminent’ activists has issued a statement calling upon all the judges of the Supreme Court to set up an “independent and credible inquiry committee” comprising of senior retired judges and eminent members of civil society, headed by a woman, to inquire the complaint made by a former employee of the Supreme Court.

“This is a moment of grave crisis for the judiciary. If the court is unable to credibly deal with this challenge, public confidence in the judiciary will be severely eroded,” the statement reads.

The group has also asked Chief Justice Gogoi to refrain from exercising any administrative powers during the course of the inquiry since many of the witnesses named by the woman are officials of the court registry.

In a shocking development, a female former staffer of the Supreme Court of India had levelled serious allegations against CJI Ranjan Gogoi. The alleged victim has written to 22 judges of the SC, alleging that CJI Gogoi had made sexual advances on her at his residential office on October 10 and 11.

The woman has mentioned that after she had refused to be part of CJI’s sexual advancements, she was moved out of his residential office and then after two months, was dismissed from her job. The woman had further alleged that the harassment did not stop even after her dismissal on December 21, 2018.

The CJI had responded with a startling revelation that this sexual harassment allegation was part of a larger plot and that it was a pressure tactic to ensure he doesn’t hear important cases that were coming up. One of those cases was the contempt hearing against Rahul Gandhi.

Interestingly, the group of 33 eminent writers and activists, includes a large number of controversial ultra left-wing activists, Naxal sympathisers, UPA era beneficiaries and members of Congress ecosystem. The list includes Arundhati Roy, Aruna Roy, Yogendra Yadav, Harsh Mander, Amnesty India Executive Director Aakar Patel and other controversial activists.

Here, we shall look into the background of some of these people part of the ’eminent’ group which has now asked for a probe against the sitting Chief Justice of the country.

Arundhati Roy
Ultra-left activist and controversial ‘fiction’ writer Arundhati Roy, who believes that Rafale is an aircraft carrier, is a known rabble-rouser who often openly instigates anti-India propaganda through her separatist tendencies.

Arundhati Roy had once opined that Maoists who are responsible for the deaths of so many civilians and soldiers are ‘Gandhians with Guns’.

Arundhati Roy had shockingly said that Kashmir was never an integral part of India and claimed that India had become a colonizing power as soon as it won its independence from the British. “Kashmir has never been an integral part of India. It is a historical fact. Even the Indian government has accepted this.”

While speaking at an event at Northwestern Law School in Chicago in 2013, Roy, who often spews venom with her Hinduphobic comments had described the event of Godhra train burning case as, “A train full of pilgrims coming back from the destruction of this Ayodhya mosque which was disputed. The train caught fire; nobody knows who set fire to the train and 57 pilgrims were burnt…”. The demolition of the Babri Masjid and the Godhra massacre happened 10 years apart.

Arundhati Roy, who regularly lies profusely, funds a self-proclaimed ‘fact checking’ website that also lies profusely.

Harsh Mander
Harsh Mander is another UPA era beneficiary, who was the director of the Center for Equity Studies. Mander was earlier appointed a member of Sonia Gandhi’s National Advisory Committee. He has advocated for evangelical conversion in the past and ridiculed laws that prevent conversion. Mander is also a known Ishrat apologist, the female LeT operative who was killed in an encounter along with three others by Crime Branch Officials in Gujarat.

In his article on the political marginalization of Muslims which was shared by current Prime Minister of Pakistan, Imran Khan, Mander had written, “Muslims are today’s castaways, political orphans with no home, for virtually every political party. This despite India being home to a tenth of the world’s Muslims, around 180 million people, making it the largest Muslim country after Indonesia and Pakistan. There has never been a harder time to be a Muslim in India, not since the stormy months that followed India’s Partition.”

Harsh Mander was also part of the team which was hell-bent on implementing the Communal Violence Bill, officially referred to as the Prevention of Communal and Targeted Violence (Access to Justice and Reparations) Bill, 2011. The contentious bill would have proved to be one of the most disastrous laws if it were to be passed to be an act as it was anti-majority and presumed that the majority community is always to blame for the communal violence.

Yogendra Yadav
An intellectual, psephologist, politician, activist and what not. These are the ‘characters’ that Yogendra Yadav usually portrays in his public life. However, Yadav is a known left-wing ideologue who is known for opposing and discrediting against the BJP, particularly Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Yogendra Yadav was once part of the troika with Prashant Bhushan and Arvind Kejriwal before Arvind Kejriwal kicked him out of the Aam Aadmi Party. Yogendra Yadav is also known for propagating lies about RSS and distorting history pertaining to India’s freedom movement of India.

Aakar Patel
Aakar Patel, an alleged ‘Human rights activist’ associated with Amnesty International India, is known for making bigoted casteist remarks. Aakar Patel, a writer who is famous for making casteist comments and stereotyping people based on their ethnic backgrounds had written an article linking one of the comments of Giriraj Singh to extremism and terrorism by Hindus.

Interestingly, Aakar Patel is also allegedly close to fugitive criminal Vijay Mallya. Aakar Patel’s wife Tushita Aakar Patel supposedly used to work as Mallya’s political secretary. Amnesty International India under Aakar Patel was also raided by Enforcement Directorate for violation of FDI guidelines under the Foreign Exchange Management Act (FEMA) and FCRA rules.

Shabnam Hashmi:
Shabnam Hashmi is one of the founders of the NGO ANHAD whose FCRA registration was cancelled in 2016 by the NDA government due to “undesirable” activities against the public interest. As per DeshGujarat, ANHAD was majorly a Church funded organization.

Shabnam Hashmi was also part of the group entrusted by Sonia Gandhi’s NAC to draft the contentious Communal Violence Bill. It was alleged that Shabnam Hashmi belonged to an NGO that received foreign funding from abroad, which was also charged with the responsibility of drafting the extremely controversial Communal Violence Bill.

The group is not just limited to these ’eminent’ activists. The groups also involve other left-wing ‘obstructionist’ activists like Medha Patkar, Aruna Roy who have been part of legal activism throughout and acted as a stumbling block to the development initiatives of the country. Aruna Roy, who is also known to be a vocal supporter of ‘Urban Naxals’ was also part of the Sonia Gandhi’s unconstitutional National Advisory Committee.

The other members of the ’eminent’ group are unsurprisingly left leaning and some of them had even supported the accused in the Bhima Koregaon violence. The other members are – Kamla Bhasin, Bezwada Wilson, Kalpana Kannabiran, Syeda Hameed, P Sainath, Kavita Kuruganti, Dipa Sinha, Annie Raja, Anjali Bhardwaj, Nikhil Dey, Prabhat Patnaik, Kamal Jaswal, Amitabh Behar, Paul Divakar, Maj Gen SG Vombatkere, Kavita Srivastava, Arundhati Dhuru, Vipul Mudgal, Amrita Johri, Meera Sanghamitra, Abha Bhaiya, Himshi Singh, Basant Hetamsaria, Suhas Kolhekar, Annie Namala, Uma.

The above group of ’eminent’ people actually mirror the same set of people who often take sides to bully and intimidate individuals who are not ideologically inclined to their views. Recently, similar propaganda was hatched with several actors, writers with questionable integrity came together to urge voters to oust Narendra Modi from power.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 07 May 2019 16:57

VijayK, what do the numbers represent? Return on 1Rs? Or probabilities?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 07 May 2019 17:01

this is maybe what you get for needlessly poking the bear


SC shatters 21 opposition parties’ EVM fear mongering in less than a minute, dismisses petition for 50% VVPAT verification


The proceedings lasted for less than a minute, according to reports


The opposition parties and the Rahul Gandhi led Congress, in particular, have been fear-mongering regarding Electronic Voting Machines (EVM) regularly. Interestingly, the Congress believes that wherever they lose the EVMs have been tampered with and when they win, like Chhattisgarh, Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh, the EVMs worked perfectly. The fear-mongering suffered a huge blow today when the Supreme Court (SC) refused the opposition party’s plea to order 50% VVPAT verification of voting.

The Supreme Court headed by Chief Justice of India (CJI) Ranjan Gogoi dismissed the review petition filed by 21 opposition parties combined for the review of its decision in case of verification of voting by VVPAT. The opposition parties wanted 50% VVPAT verification in these Lok Sabha Elections.

CJI Gogoi said they were not inclined to review their decision while dismissing the plea by opposition parties.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 07 May 2019 17:08

Supreme Court ‘perplexed’ after Rahul Gandhi’s contempt case hearing gets mysteriously delayed


Supreme Court ‘perplexed’ after Rahul Gandhi’s contempt case hearing gets mysteriously delayed


On April 30, a Bench led by the CJI himself had dictated in open court that the Rafale review and the criminal contempt case against the Congress President would come up for hearing together on Monday, the 6th of May.

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The Supreme Court, on Monday, was perplexed that a contempt plea against Rahul Gandhi was separated from a bunch of review petitions when the Court had earlier decreed that both should be heard together, on May 6. Bewilderingly, the contempt plea against the Congress President was not listed and it will be now heard on the 10th of May.

“We are little perplexed that the two cases are listed on two different dates when the order was that these matters will be heard together,” the bench, headed by CJI Gogoi and comprising of Justice S.K. Kaul and K.M. Joseph, reportedly said.


On April 30, a Bench led by the CJI himself had dictated in open court that the Rafale review and the criminal contempt case against the Congress President would come up for hearing together on Monday, the 6th of May.

The mysterious change of dates is sure to raise some suspicions as both matters have major political implications for the Congress party.

CJI Gogoi also expressed his surprise at the mysterious change of date. “I remember clearly dictating in court that the Rahul Gandhi contempt case would come up for analogous hearing on May 6 along with the Rafale case. How did this happen? How has it happened that the order copy says May 10”, the CJI reportedly asked.

The court, however, shifted the hearing of the Rafale review petitions to May 10. The three-judge bench of Justices SK Kaul, KM Joseph and the CJI, stated that the Rafale reviews petitions too will be heard along with the contempt case against Rahul Gandhi on May 10.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 07 May 2019 17:17

Karan M wrote:VijayK, what do the numbers represent? Return on 1Rs? Or probabilities?


Return on 1 rupee

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 07 May 2019 17:24

Guys, any ideas on how satta bazar guys get their info? Is it based on any ground research or just speculation. That will determine if the returns make sense.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 07 May 2019 17:26

vijayk wrote:
Karan M wrote:VijayK, what do the numbers represent? Return on 1Rs? Or probabilities?


Return on 1 rupee


Those are fairly large returns..16% on 1 Rs for BJP getting 240 seats? So basically, they expect BJP seat tally < 240 seats for zero returns.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby abhijitm » 07 May 2019 17:30

Suraj wrote:
a_bharat wrote:This forum is becoming increasingly intolerant to views other than Modi/BJP bhajan. There used to be a time when people used to say "Indira is India". Now it has become "Modi is India" on this forum. For me no individual or party is above criticism. All have their warts. In 2014, I was also taken in by the Modi hype. Now, the main reason for me to support him/BJP at the national level is that the alternative is scary.

You're clearly not a forum regular considering that you are somehow of the view that Modi gets unreserved praise here. You have 620 odd posts in a decade, so that's to be expected.

This is a rare politics thread. You might be unaware, but politics discussions were banned for ~2 years until this thread. It's right in the middle of elections. It's clear who most posters here support in the elections. Don't confuse that with what you claim. You're conflating two entirely different things - one of which is sentiment during an election, and the other is your collection of strawmen.

These guys were definitely not around when mahabharat on EPF happened on this very forum. Many of us revolted against that BJP decision. I lost cool and got a ban. Speaking of echo chamber...

Then there was demo thread....

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 07 May 2019 17:31

Karthik S wrote:Guys, any ideas on how satta bazar guys get their info? Is it based on any ground research or just speculation. That will determine if the returns make sense.


in 2014, they understated the win.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 07 May 2019 17:34

I am confused. Aren't those prices of tickets, with Re.1 being the nominal (get 1 Re back)? So high number is better?

Look at this one dated May 2:

It is reported that lates tally being bet for BJP is 246-249 seats, as per 'Punjab Syndicate', whereas in Chandani Chowk, it is 247-249. In Bombay, bets are for NDA getting 300+ seats. Bets on AAP are for 6-10 seats. IN UP, BJP is likely to get 51-53 ...seats, BSP 12-13, SP 9-10 & Congress 5-6 seats. In Delhi, bets are for BJP getting 5-7 seats, mostly bets are for 6 seats. AAP &/or Congress may get 1 seat. In Amritsar Jaitely is trailing, as per bets, while Pawan Bansal is at no.3 as per bets, Kiran Kher being the favorite winner.
I may add that the punters make careful calculations & get reports on each seat, before the rate is opened. Many consider Satta Bazar bets as fairly accurate in predicting the outcome.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 07 May 2019 17:48

Per VijayK,

The list is paise on top of 1Rs vs seats won. But you may be right. The 1 is marked specifically.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby fanne » 07 May 2019 17:53

the youtube video of Sanjay Kumar from CSDS with ET Now channel is music to my ears at least.
CSDS is one agency that does all polling and perhaps the oldest and the biggest (and most experienced) such agency. They however do this for BIF and there past heads or board members will make kinds of GN Fai look India friendly.
CSDS is doing a comprehensive exit interview (perhaps to help the other guys in the next round), one of its member got detained in Sikkim few weeks ago.
He has the data. Btw all of these guys a BIG spin master/liars (you only have to look at Salim Yadav), keeping that disclaimer aside this is what he is saying (Btw they can lie both sides, in favor of BJP only to make its vote bank complacent)--
RA and MP - BJP is doing good, Congress may win few but not a lot
WB - BJP giving good fight may end up with 15
UP- No data cannot think of any
JH - BJP doing good, not loosing heavily
Amethi - The IQ challenged guy may loose

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Yagnasri » 07 May 2019 18:00

Annie Raja mentioned in the report above is the girl of D Raja of CPI IIRC in case you missed it. Part of JNU tukde tukde gang.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Theeran » 07 May 2019 18:01

UlanBatori wrote:I am confused. Aren't those prices of tickets, with Re.1 being the nominal (get 1 Re back)? So high number is better?


This is how I understand it - the returns change based on how money flows. If the returns decrease for BJP numbers it just means that more people are buying those. Satta guys want equal number of people on both sides so they won't lose money either way.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Patni » 07 May 2019 18:10

Karan M wrote:
vijayk wrote:
Return on 1 rupee


Those are fairly large returns..16% on 1 Rs for BJP getting 240 seats? So basically, they expect BJP seat tally < 240 seats for zero returns.


Hmm thats not how it works! Let me try to explain with an example. Lets take the statistics from our BRF election poll thread, about 95% backing or supporting BJP to win and 5% Congress backers. Now if i want to make money and offer some enticing odds so guys feel its easy money to them and will place bets with me this is what will be setup. An offer for BJP win at 10 paise and congress win at 2 rupees. this is worked out based on (X*0.1 + my cut ) = (Y*2) that is i expect 95 bjp punters to bet at 10 paise as they think its easy money simple bet and 10% return so they all place bet @ 10 paise. now i need to cover for 95*0.1 = 9.5 rupee and i expect to get 5 punters to place a bet on congress at double your money rate of 2. So if BJP wins i pay out 9.5 ruppes and collect 10 and thus have my profit.

Now as election gets closer, i adjust my daily prices based on my exposure that is if today i got 95 more guys came and placed bet on BJP tomorrow i will reduce its price and go to 8 paise and to cover for that i will raise congress rate to 4. so i now need 2 suckers to fall for congress win as they get greedy thinking 400% return for backing congress which they were inclined to favour anyways. So you see the trend of rates offered is based on how market participants really think will happen and willing to bet on it with real money. So if on third day 950 guys place bet @ 8 paise i simple give new rate of 4 paise for BJP and open congress win to 40 rupees as now i need only 1 sucker to fall for 4000% return.
All this breakup of 240 / 260 /280 is just built on using same basic principal. Think why is starting bet is 240 and not at 180? cause its obvious to bookmakers that modi led BJP wont go lower than 220 at all. If tomorrow they feel even 240 is sure shot they will stop offereing rats for 240 and will have 260 as starting bet. Reverse will be true for congress. Now please go read the numbers posted and see what it all means.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ArjunPandit » 07 May 2019 18:18

Karan M wrote:
ArjunPandit wrote:Did you guys see the Pranoy Roy carrying mic to a village and interviewing a girl? The girl was speaking from a mugged script.


Didnt see that but what surprised me is Pranoy Roy appeared to be struggling to speak in basic Hindi with the Yadavs at their residence and quickly shifted to English. Wow. Pretty surprising.

now that should not be surprising as he's been speaking in English, been part of Lutyens scotch ckt for last 30 years. What is surprising is that he's himself going to report. Seems like demo and strikes on shell co.s has hit him hard. I know of someone who had to leave NDTV because of all this and that precipitated a very bad time in his personal life. Giving credit where its due, NDTV took really good care of him during his challenging times.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Manish_P » 07 May 2019 18:18

Karan M wrote:
vijayk wrote:
Return on 1 rupee


Those are fairly large returns..16% on 1 Rs for BJP getting 240 seats? So basically, they expect BJP seat tally < 240 seats for zero returns.


In betting terms they are low odds. Lower the odds more the likelihood of that happening hence the lower returns you get.

The bookies try to make money by offering higher odds to less likely events, thus tempting speculators/punters to put shouts on the higher odds.

So as per the table the bookies/bazaar seems to think that the BJP will most likely get 240 seats or less

And except in a purple moon, the bookies are the ones who always win.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Manish_P » 07 May 2019 18:21

Patni wrote:
Karan M wrote:
Those are fairly large returns..16% on 1 Rs for BJP getting 240 seats? So basically, they expect BJP seat tally < 240 seats for zero returns.


Hmm thats not how it works! Let me try to explain with an example. Lets take the statistics from our BRF election poll thread, about 95% backing or supporting BJP to win and 5% Congress backers. Now if i want to make money and offer some enticing odds so guys feel its easy money to them and will place bets with me this is what will be setup. An offer for BJP win at 10 paise and congress win at 2 rupees. this is worked out based on (X*0.1 + my cut ) = (Y*2) that is i expect 95 bjp punters to bet at 10 paise as they think its easy money simple bet and 10% return so they all place bet @ 10 paise. now i need to cover for 95*0.1 = 9.5 rupee and i expect to get 5 punters to place a bet on congress at double your money rate of 2. So if BJP wins i pay out 9.5 ruppes and collect 10 and thus have my profit.

Now as election gets closer, i adjust my daily prices based on my exposure that is if today i got 95 more guys came and placed bet on BJP tomorrow i will reduce its price and go to 8 paise and to cover for that i will raise congress rate to 4. so i now need 2 suckers to fall for congress win as they get greedy thinking 400% return for backing congress which they were inclined to favour anyways. So you see the trend of rates offered is based on how market participants really think will happen and willing to bet on it with real money. So if on third day 950 guys place bet @ 8 paise i simple give new rate of 4 paise for BJP and open congress win to 40 rupees as now i need only 1 sucker to fall for 4000% return.
All this breakup of 240 / 260 /280 is just built on using same basic principal. Think why is starting bet is 240 and not at 180? cause its obvious to bookmakers that modi led BJP wont go lower than 220 at all. If tomorrow they feel even 240 is sure shot they will stop offereing rats for 240 and will have 260 as starting bet. Reverse will be true for congress. Now please go read the numbers posted and see what it all means.


Extremely well explained, Sir. I have seen cricket betting really really close and this is pretty much how it works :)

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Patni » 07 May 2019 18:26

Manish_P wrote:
Karan M wrote:
Those are fairly large returns..16% on 1 Rs for BJP getting 240 seats? So basically, they expect BJP seat tally < 240 seats for zero returns.


In betting terms they are low odds. Lower the odds more the likelihood of that happening hence the lower returns you get.

The bookies try to make money by offering higher odds to less likely events, thus tempting speculators/punters to put shouts on the higher odds.

So as per the table the bookies/bazaar seems to think that the BJP will most likely get 240 seats or less

And except in a purple moon, the bookies are the ones who always win.

No the correct reading of table is range of seats that bjp will get is from 240+ till 300+ if they offer only 240+ price they dont have much profit margin cause they need more punters to bet at higher odds where they think is max for bjp alone. Thats why higher return if you bet for 280+ as they think its most likely to get seat in between 240 to 260.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 07 May 2019 18:32

Great answer Patni.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 07 May 2019 18:38

Chintamani Retweeted

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"Labharthi (beneficiaries of Modi schemes) have defeated Laathi+Haathi+Saatsau-Chiassi (786)" is the buzz across Awadh today.
Data suggests BJP may have swept the poll yesterday!

Base could shift from 60 to 65 soon!!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 07 May 2019 18:38

so its a picture of the crowdsourced pool of punters , their own hopes/info from moles/risk taking appetite over hopefully a large set of punters.
the risk appetite of punters will be across a spectrum and probably form a bell curve in the middle - moderate risk, moderate reward.

so can this be called 'street sentiment'

problem is this satta bazaar is spread not uniformly across the country but in some pockets where people are cash rich and like to make large bets.
but pro is these people with money on the line will be actively tapped into the networks of political workers and getting news from state level how the big bosses feel after collating reports from underlings.

maybe if each state had its own legalized market like UK has , then it would be more reliable.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vips » 07 May 2019 18:49

vijayk wrote:
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#NewsAlert – Massive protest outside the Supreme Court against CJI harassment case. Section 144 imposed around SC. Activists, lawyers protest against CJI outside SC. | @Nitisha_Kashyap with more details


Time to clean up termites in SC (Prashant Bhushan, Indira Jaisingh, Vrinda Grover)


The real reason why the Congi/Communist agents/Lutyens Cabal is protesting against CJI

Matching of VVPAT slips with EVMs: SC dismisses opposition's plea

The Supreme Court on Tuesday dismissed the plea filed by 21 opposition leaders seeking a review of its April 8 order directing the Election Commission to increase random matching of VVPAT slips with EVMs to five polling booths per assembly segment.

"We are not inclined to modify our order," a bench headed by Chief Justice Ranjan Gogoi said.

The plea was filed by opposition leaders led by Andhra Pradesh chief minister Chandrababu Naidu.


Senior advocate A M Singhvi, appearing for petitioners, told the bench that the apex court had increased the random matching of VVPAT slips with EVMs to five polling booths per assembly segment and they are now seeking that it should be increased to 25 per cent at least.

"It will be for the satisfaction of confidence building measures," Singhvi tod the bench also comprising Justices Deepak Gupta and Sanjiv Khanna.

Singhvi said the present increase of random matching of VVPAT slips with EVMs to five polling booths per assembly segment amounted to a meagre two per cent and petitioners are seeking that it be raised to 25 per cent at least. (Rejected by the Supremer Court)

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vips » 07 May 2019 18:50

Another reason why the Lutyens mafia is conspiring against the Cheif Justice of India...

Supreme Court ‘puzzled’ by separate listing of Rafale review, Rahul case.

The Supreme Court was surprised on Monday to find that contrary to its directive, the contempt plea against Congress chief Rahul Gandhi and the petition seeking review of the court's Rafale judgment were not listed together for hearing.

"Where is the contempt petition (filed by BJP MP Meenakshi Lekhi) against Rahul Gandhi? Both matters were to be listed together for hearing," a
bench of CJI Ranjan Gogoi and Justices Sanjay Kishan Kaul and KM Joseph said when advocate Prashant Bhushan got up to argue the plea for review of the SC's December 14 judgment giving the government a clean chit in the Rafale deal.

Appearing for another PIL petitioner, senior advocate Vikas Singh drew the court's attention to the bench's separate orders of April 30 directed listing of Rafale review petitions for hearing on May 6, while slotting hearing of contempt petition for May 10.

"There is an order for listing the contempt petition for hearing on May 10? How can that be? How could the office do it when we had said that both matters were to be heard together?" a surprised CJI asked (The court fixing cabal in Supreme court is very active and is openly defying the SC and is not implementing the order passed by the SC. The Registrar should be broght to task and face contempt of court proceedings). Justice Kaul too recollected that on April 30, the impression with which the hearings were concluded was that both cases would be listed together.

Significantly, the mystery over non-compliance of the SC's order coincides with a probe ordered by the court into alleged manipulation of listing of cases by "fixers and middlemen".

Rahul's counsel AM Singhvi had told the SC on April 30 that the Congress president, who had expressed regret for linking the SC's April 10 order with his "chowkidar chor hai" political jibe against PM Narendra Modi for alleged corruption in the Rafale deal, would file a fresh affidavit apologising for the mistake.

The CJI said, "In the afternoon, we inquired from the registry whether an affidavit (as promised by Rahul's counsel) has been filed. But the registry said no such affidavit was filed." (CJI is going hammer and tongs against the Dynast mafia and its agents have no escape)

As soon as the lead review petitioner, advocate Prashant Bhushan, said he would take two hours to make his case good for review of the Rafale judgment, the bench ordered listing of the review petitions and the contempt petition together on May 10 and asked the parties to complete their arguments on that day.(These anti national congi agents know their game will be up on May 10th and hence are indulging in desperate "protest" against the CJI.)

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 07 May 2019 18:52

Guys ignore Satta Bazar, its just a den of chronic gamblers who have no clue with reality. Lets wait on 23 May for the real results and let us get as many people to vote in these last 2 phases.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 07 May 2019 18:53

In 5th phase TMC has done well in WB. Neck to neck between BJP and TMC. Last 2 phases will determine who will get larger no of seats but TMC has advantage. Even if BJP gets less seats it will be incredible given that the party had no base even a few years back. Will set up 2021 nicely. The hardest part will be to get a CM candidate.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Muppalla » 07 May 2019 18:54

vijayk wrote:BJP Satta Bazar

Congress Satta Bazar


Can someone explain. If the betting cost is more means probability of happening is less?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Ardeshir » 07 May 2019 18:58

chetak wrote:
The RFC has PUCL, an organization with extensive links to ‘Urban Naxals’, in its steering committee. It also has the Human Rights Law Network (HRLN), a foreign-funded NGO that has been interfering in various matters related to the internal security of the country, in its steering committee. Donors to the HRLN include Misereor which is partners with Sherpa, the same NGO that filed a plea against the Rafale deal in France. Sherpa is also partners with George Soros’ Open Society Institute.

And guess who's working very closely with Open Society in India - https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ ... mini-aiyar

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Manish_Sharma » 07 May 2019 19:25

https://twitter.com/Shehzad_Ind/status/ ... 09344?s=19

Ex PM cannot be called corrupt but sitting PM can be called

Hitler
Neech
Duryodhan
Ravan
Bird dropping
Maut Ka Saudagar
Napunsak
Chor
Snooper

Okay

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby bharotshontan » 07 May 2019 19:33

What will be a good channel to watch on 23rd May? Part of me wants to watch rNDTV just to watch those miserable chaps grovel :mrgreen:

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Manish_Sharma » 07 May 2019 19:43

Karan M wrote:
Didnt see that but what surprised me is Pranoy Roy appeared to be struggling to speak in basic Hindi with the Yadavs at their residence and quickly shifted to English. Wow. Pretty surprising.


https://twitter.com/Ateendriyo/status/8 ... 41921?s=19

Prannoy Roy's paternal grandfather was Paresh Lal Roy, the 'father of Indian Boxing'. Here is PL Roy's grave, in Bhowanipur cemetery https://t.co/siuyHz8Fnj

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 07 May 2019 19:47

fanne wrote:guys, are we in a echo chamber? 543, Chintamani, savyasachi..these guys are doing technical analysis, with some inputs (some in form of limited survey, not a true exit poll) - voting share by segments etc. Today's Chanakya guys input was significant that NDA (not BJP) is some short of 272.
I am more concerned by NAMO attack (is he desperate?). I am not at all talking about morality, just the rhetoric. Is the good side winning? Then why desperation (why I say is, in start of the poll, a group of us had decided that how can we get an exit poll, without getting one by following what leaders say and also what some obvious news anchor who would have access to exit poll - boxer, his voice, Omllate Cuopta etc.
The signal is mixed, it is not one sided as 543 3tc. will like you to believe.


ahem

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No, we have not released any such numbers as mentioned in the article.


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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby abhijitm » 07 May 2019 19:52

bharotshontan wrote:What will be a good channel to watch on 23rd May? Part of me wants to watch rNDTV just to watch those miserable chaps grovel :mrgreen:

hey Ram, dont jinx it.


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