Sorry to do this.
Glimpses of Duratma Gandhi in operation as quoted in Freedom at Midnight by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre amongst others.
‘Tell us, O apostle of non-violence, screamed the inhabitants of one, ‘how are we to exist? You
tell us to give up our arms, but in the Punjab the Moslems kill Hindus at sight. Do you want us to be butchered like sheep?’ ‘If all the Punjabis were to die to the last man without killing,’ Gandhi replied, ‘the Punjab would become immortal.’
As he had counselled the Ethiopians, the Jews, the Czechs and the British, so he now counselled his enraged Hindu
countrymen: ‘Offer yourselves as non-violent, willing sacrifices.’ https://archive.org/stream/FreedomAtMid ... t_djvu.txt
This is a made-up dialog.
In a subsequent letter to Sumangal Prakash, he favoured suicide for raped women: Personally I believe that if a woman has courage, [she] would be ready to die to save her honour. In discussing this with women, I would, therefore, certainly advise them to kill themselves in such circumstances and explain to them that it was easy to take one's life if one wished to do so. (CWMG vol. 56 : 67)
CWMG amounts to around 100 volumes. Volume 56 contains only material from 1932; this is not from the time of Partition.
Here is the letter:
June 29, 1932
Your letter to hand. Your argument with regard to rape seems convincing. In circumstances similar to those in which you believe it right for a woman to take her life, it may be right for a trustee to take his life when somebody tries to rob the property under his care. But the woman and the trustee themselves should think that it is their dharma to do so. You or I have no right to accuse a woman of failing in her dharma if she does not kill herself to prevent herself from being raped. If, unlike her, the trustee dies while defending the property under his care, we cannot assume, either, that he has done the right thing. We can judge in either case only if we know the mental condition of the person concerned at the time. Though I say this from the point of view of justice, personally I believe that a woman, if she has courage, would be ready to die to save her honour. In discussing this matter with women, I would, therefore, certainly advise them to kill themselves in such circumstances and explain to them that it was easy to take one’s life if one wished to do so. I would do this because many women believe that, if there is no man present to protect them or if they have not learnt to use a dagger or a gun, they have no choice but to submit to the evil-doer. I would certainly tell a woman who believes so, that she need not depend upon anybody’s weapons to protect her and that her own virtue will protect her. Even if that does not happen, instead of using a dagger or any other weapon she can kill herself. She need not consider herself weak or helpless.
And now concerning hypothetical questions. I had understood your purpose in asking the questions to be exactly what you explain it to be, but I would describe such questions as hypothetical. In some cases questions of this nature may be asked, but it would be better not to ask any. In any case, you should not make it a habit of asking such questions. Anybody who does that commits the same error which a student of geometry who asks his professor to solve riders does. Such a student will never learn geometry well. That will also be the fate of a person who seeks the solutions of problems arising out of a principle from other people. Apart from this, however, there is a great flaw in the very nature of questions raised on the basis of ethical principles, namely, we never come across in life an instance exactly similar to the one we had imagined. If there is ever so slight a difference between the hypothetical case and the actual one, the answers in the two cases are likely to be entirely different. That is why I have cautioned you that, if you are not confronted with a problem relating to an actual instance which you have come across, you should not make it a habit to seek from me solutions of hypothetical problems in order to be prepared for such eventualities. If you do that, my answers to hypothetical questions will, instead of helping you in an emergency, prevent you from finding the right solution. The mind of such a person becomes incapable of original thinking. The better thing would be to grasp the basic principle thoroughly and to assimilate it, and not to mind if, in applying it in solving your problems or those of other members in your family, you make mistakes. You will learn from such mistakes, But you should not approach others, even those who understand the principle better than you do, to seek solutions of hypothetical problems in order to prepare yourself to meet them when they arise. Such a procedure destroys one’s self-confidence. The author of the Gita seems to have written verse 10 of Chapter X because he knew this from experience. Doesn’t the Lord tell us in that verse that “to these, ever in tune with Me, worshipping Me with affectionate devotion. I give the power of selfless action, whereby they come to Me.” If you substitute “Truth” for “God” in this sentence, the meaning will be perfectly clear. I hope you now understand what I meant to say. I do not mind your hypothetical questions, but I fear that I may do you harm by encouraging you to put such questions. I am sure at any rate that I would not be helping you. Take, for instance, your question regarding rape. Though I may give a definite reply now to your question regarding a hypothetical instance, I would give quite a different reply if an instance like that actually occurred, and support it with convincing reasons. It is also very possible that I would be able to point out a difference between the hypothetical case and the actual incident . I write all this from experience about coworkers. I will stop here now.
I am glad to learn that your health has improved.
In general, what Gandhi said about non-violence is greatly misquoted. Some of it is British propaganda, e.g., Gandhi on Hitler:http://thepartitionofindia.blogspot.com ... itler.html
On the use of armed force in J&K:http://thepartitionofindia.blogspot.com ... armed.html
As a soldier and one about to be engaged in battle in a matter of hours, I was at a loss to know what to say, and eventually asked him: "What do I do in Kashmir?"
Mahatma Gandhi smiled and said: "You're going in to protect innocent people, and to save them from suffering and their property from destruction. To achieve that you must naturally make full use of every means at your disposal."