2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Sanju · Post by **Sanju** » 19 May 2019 09:50

The coming attack from BIF forces is on expected lines. Knowing the Trio of MAD, such things would have been taken into account. NM-I was to get a proper hold on the environment, stabilise the country after the wanton "scorched-earth" policy of UPA-II and provide basic needs platform. One on which NM & Team could stand and ask for an additional 5 years of NM-II.

I beleive that the coming 5 years will have more of the same in terms of Vikas, but will include additional decisions that will have a major impact on our enemies...armed with the Sword and/or the pen.

As the NM Team knocks back one important task after another, the tasks lower on the list will become visible and be tackled. By then RW, as an ecosystem, supportive of the Country and with the ability to take on Shadow Warriors should have matured to a level of skill and more importantly, power and reach, expected of a population our size and ability. It is already showing these signs.

The RW ecosystem that we see in SocMed is a "Swayambhu" kind of movement an awakening of the people who earlier wanted "others", viz., the Government or the Armed/Police Forces to "stand-up" for them and their rights. We (the Nationalists) had forgotten to take the Cudgels on our behalf. We sometimes still want the PM to do this and that, as we don't realise our true power. We have had 5+ years to fight this asymmetric media & judicial war.

In hindsight, Modiji letting the RWE to take the fight to the MSM inimical to the Nationalists, was a blessing in disguise. IMHO et al...

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 19 May 2019 09:51

I want 15 yrs of NM-1, then another 15 of Yogi provided he turns around UP, and earns his admin spurs, backed up by RW Youngistan and then another ten of the next guy. Claw this country back from the sh!ts who are willing to sell it down the river for power, just look at the loathsome imprecations hurled at India by these jerks in all foreign rags.

kit · Post by **kit** » 19 May 2019 09:52

Mandatory viewing for everyone interested in how elections are manipulated ..

Our Brand Is Crisis

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1018765/

williams · Post by **williams** » 19 May 2019 09:52

Karan M wrote:So when do exit polls start?

Anytime after May 19, 18:30 hrs

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 19 May 2019 09:56

Apart from everything else in 2nd term, I hope for better vetting before appointment to sensitive posts. Avoid internal dissensions and present a united front. No hint of weakness or lack of control on state apparatus.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 May 2019 10:04

1. No amount of vetting can weed out all cases of malcontents or agenda lovers.
2. The pool at the top is inherited. It is highly skewed towards sickularitis and will remain so for the next 10 years at least. Expect intermittent cases of insider fire from time to time.
3. Even now there is no change at the intake level.

The only difference is that the yinduvadis who got into the system on their own merit have started to be more open and vocal.

a. Hopefully more of them get promoted to the top so as to expand the pool form where such constitutional posts are filled.
b. The Intake procedures are corrected to allow for a higher percentage of desh-premis instead of agenda-premis.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 19 May 2019 10:10

Well said Pankajs. The amount of cognitive dissonance in social media from some members of establishment on merely seeing the color saffron in any form or any strong expression of nationalism, culturally, administratively, or vocal is eye-opening and simultaneously dismaying.

So many of our so called best and brightest have been brainwashed literally beyond redemption. Brown sahibs in all but name and they are abusive towards their own peers and colleagues who see through the kool-aid. Worst is reserved for those of minority dispensation who are strong nationalists.

What's equally heart warming is despite all the pressure, coercion, shaming etc, the majority of our people are somehow still connected to our roots in one way or the other. Its not an easy fight for BIF by any means.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 19 May 2019 10:15

Well, as far as reforming the entrance procedure is concerned, the most obvious would be the paper checkers - the academicians, many of which certainly have an agenda. Another battle for another day.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 19 May 2019 10:15

Google News search results are actively being gamed to shape opinions about India during election time. They are actively promoting articles written by Indian house negroes in Western rags. Out of the top 20 search results in Google News regarding "India" today, 16 are from New York Times, WaPo, BBC, CNN, The Guardian and AlJazeera. Even news from Times of India doesn't make it to page 1. This is becoming a serious problem and Anglo Saxons won't stop their mischief as long as we remain consumers of their digital ecosystem. We need to learn from China on how to set them right.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 19 May 2019 10:22

Karan M wrote:
Vayutuvan wrote:
Mr. Dhume and the late Ms. Gauri Lankesh were dating at one time, IIRC. The former wrote an eulogy for the latter a day after she was murdered.
mixing up chidanand rajghatta with dhume

hmm. they, those MSM, all look the same. sorry wonlee.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 May 2019 10:26

they were not dating but married and divorced I think.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 19 May 2019 10:28

Mort Walker wrote:
KKji,

Glad to see you back after such a long time.

moi also glad. but who is this KKji? there are several who fit that acronym. I am miffed though that moi is getting mixed up with those handles. in anycase, let us revive very fine time measurements in physics dhaga.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 May 2019 10:34

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Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 19 May 2019 10:36

The veritable Anti-Modi scumbag and AAPtard, and alleged molester of women Mahesh Murthy while mocking Indian startups accidentally said something insightful. Comparing Chinese and Indian startups, he said something to the effect of "China's Twitter is Weibo. their Google is Baidu, and their Amazon is Alibaba. India's Facebook is Facebook, India's Twitter is Twitter."

We don't have an ecosystem. Volunteers have built something of a resistance, but they can be switched off by the platform owners at will. TrueIndology for example. People talk about Gab.ai being the solution, but even that is owned by conservatives in the Khanate.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 19 May 2019 10:36

Because govt gave this a top priority, posting here:

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Over the last 200 years, the use of toilets and improved sanitation have added twenty years to the human lifespan.

There will be a considerable increase in India's life expectancy going forward.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 May 2019 10:38

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Health warning for consumers of Indian exit polls coming tomorrow: Australian voters defy predictions of *56* pre-election polls and subsequent exit polls to elect a Conservative government.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 19 May 2019 10:40

NJAC needs to be pushed through. Judicial and police reform should be highest priority in this term. Need to move society to one that beleives in it's police and gets timely justice at courts.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 19 May 2019 10:41

When will there be RS majority for NDA?

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 19 May 2019 11:05

Gus wrote:When will there be RS majority for NDA?

Not any time soon. The article ignores practicalities, but will be far from a 2/3rds majority. They can take the help of aiadmk, trs, ysr, ... to get laws changed, but not the constitution.

https://chunauti.org/2018/06/17/bjp-won ... east-2024/

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 May 2019 11:12

uAP, MP, Raj, Chattisgarh, Kerala, TN , Punjab, KA , Odisha being in congi or congi ecosystem hands rules out RS

the whole system is rigged to let the state govts put their leg in what should be a lok sabha matter. MPs are also elected into lok sabha from the same states.

its a system designed to induce no change at all just keep everyone fighting

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 May 2019 11:21

evil will always return to india unless their core foreign hives and shaman mothers are destroyed

remember Bulwyf leading the 13 warriors?

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 19 May 2019 11:34

Singha wrote:uAP, MP, Raj, Chattisgarh, Kerala, TN , Punjab, KA , Odisha being in congi or congi ecosystem hands rules out RS

the whole system is rigged to let the state govts put their leg in what should be a lok sabha matter. MPs are also elected into lok sabha from the same states.

its a system designed to induce no change at all just keep everyone fighting

Isn't this essentially the system derived erstwhile colonial masters?
We might criticize this system but it was this system that kept congis and left from changing constitution and doing more damage than they could.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 19 May 2019 11:38

Ardeshir wrote:The veritable Anti-Modi scumbag and AAPtard, and alleged molester of women Mahesh Murthy while mocking Indian startups accidentally said something insightful. Comparing Chinese and Indian startups, he said something to the effect of "China's Twitter is Weibo. their Google is Baidu, and their Amazon is Alibaba. India's Facebook is Facebook, India's Twitter is Twitter."

We don't have an ecosystem. Volunteers have built something of a resistance, but they can be switched off by the platform owners at will. TrueIndology for example. People talk about Gab.ai being the solution, but even that is owned by conservatives in the Khanate.

thats why we need to support https://gutrgoo.com/ etc

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 May 2019 11:54

https://twitter.com/Ash_Rokzz23/status/ ... 5581587457

Ash Rockzz @Ash_Rokzz23

Yesterday @AmitShah ji made very important point, he said BJP has been working on 120 seats on which BJP lost with a small margin in 2014 and it expects to win 80 seats out of this - something most experts & pollsters have clearly missed to point out.

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 19 May 2019 11:57

NDA did pass the judicial appointments (and rolled over without a fight once it was struck down by hisonners) and reservation for economically backward classes. There is no action on Art 370, because they don't want to remove it, RS majority is just an excuse (honestly I don't think I have heard any BJP politico say this is the reason).

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 May 2019 12:00

If memory serves me right ... AFTER the hisszoners struck NJAC down, the opposition went full throttle AGAINST the NDA.

1. With that being the final position how was NDA going to get NJAC back on track?/
2. IF the opposition went back on NJAC, which at least initially was non-partisan, how was the NDA going to get consent on the others contentious bills?

We need to be realistic.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 19 May 2019 12:14

The left are the core footsoldiers and force multipliers of the anti-Hindu, BIF ecosystem. In any 2nd term, it is they who needed to be rooted out, root, branch, twig.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 May 2019 12:14

To refresh memories on this forum

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 774488.ece
Congress to Centre: Won’t support adventurism on NJAC

“We will not support adventurism of the government per se,” he said when asked whether the party would back any government move in the wake of the Constitution Bench verdict scrapping the Act for setting up a National Judicial Appointments Commission to appoint judges to the higher judiciary.

“Please remove clearly perception and understanding of the people from your actions that you are trying to subvert institutions,” Mr. Singhvi said.

Noting that there was much to improve, he said that the Congress would look forward to reform of the Collegium system at the November three hearing by the Supreme Court in the matter.

1. What adventurism, when the act has IIRC, full support of the parliament including the CONgress's?
2. How come AFTER collaborating with the NDA on NJAC, CON started looking "forward to reform of the Collegium system"? In which case, how was the NDA going to get the NJAC, as is or revised, through the parliament?

This was CON systems signal to the Judiciary that it will block NJAC in any form and expects payback in its litigation against the NDA/GOI. Plain and simple.

Cain Marko · Post by **Cain Marko** » 19 May 2019 12:46

Singha wrote:They need RS majority for it else move will fail
Else it will be familiar scene in hostel days - someone does pakistan but then finds no water in the tap

Can't they just call shots defacto via presidents rule?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 May 2019 13:14

read in full

That time in 2007 when BJP nearly got banned

That time in 2007 when BJP nearly got banned

The moral of this story is that with Congress in power, Emergency is never too far away. The Emergency nearly came knocking on our doors just 11 years ago. In 2019, the BJP will face a Congress that is much more angry and vengeful than the Congress of 2004.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 19 May 2019 13:54

^^ See that’s how you wield power. Sabka saath but with a big danda in hath!

One way Congress kept power was by keeping everybody off balance by constant stream of negative media campaign and CBI cases. All this was handled by 2nd & 3rd level operatives. I’ve never understood why BJP does not have this layer of leaders.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 19 May 2019 14:14

chetak wrote:read in full
That time in 2007 when BJP nearly got banned
That time in 2007 when BJP nearly got banned
The moral of this story is that with Congress in power, Emergency is never too far away. The Emergency nearly came knocking on our doors just 11 years ago. In 2019, the BJP will face a Congress that is much more angry and vengeful than the Congress of 2004.

vimal wrote:^^ See that’s how you wield power. Sabka saath but with a big danda in hath!

One way Congress kept power was by keeping everybody off balance by constant stream of negative media campaign and CBI cases. All this was handled by 2nd & 3rd level operatives. I’ve never understood why BJP does not have this layer of leaders.

BJP even after securing majority in loksabha(first party to do after 30 years) could not even appoint a CVC or the CBI director without BIF controlled SC acting via its minions in the PIL circuit petitioning for striking down appointees by "ruling" on their credentials.
Heck even an appointment to a simple post like Army DGMS, the Supreme Court(which is the only Apex Court in the world which appoints its own Judges perverting the country's Constitution) struck down GOI's pick twice and appointed "its" pick.Just like the Court took control of the "lucrative" MCI & BCCI as soon as NaMo took over to keep it within the congie patronage system away from any aggressive anticorruption investigations & reform by the duly elected Govt.

SC shoots down MoD's DGMS pick once again
Dhananjay Mahapatra | TNN | Updated: Oct 31, 2018

NEW DELHI: In a major embarrassment to the defence ministry, the Supreme Court quashed the appointment of the Director General of Medical Services (Army) for the second time in three months but spared minister Nirmala Sitharaman of any wrongdoing .
A bench of Justices A K Sikri and Ashok Bhushan, which on August 1 had quashed MoD's decision to appoint Lt Gen Sanjiv Chopra as DGMS, on Monday set aside appointment of Air Marshal Rajvir Singh to the post and directed the ministry to appoint Lt Gen Manomoy Ganguly as the new DGMS (Army) within a week.
On August 1, while setting aside the appointment of Lt Gen Chopra as DGMS, the bench had perused the files to take a view that there appeared to be an attempt to deny Lt Gen Ganguly's claim to the post. It had sent the case back to the defence minister while reposing "full faith and confidence in the 'raksha mantri' that she would consider the entire matter in a totally dispassionate manner, with utmost objectivity and depicting total fairness".

What we need is continuous 5 year terms of PIF at power at center to clean the rotten conginess leached into the system by first exposing the rot to light and then dumping Bleach & Acid - like how it was done to the country's financial system this term.

Many institutions like Supreme Court, UPSC & its Bureaucracy need to be given above treatment and "turned" to PIF in a long process before one can claim that BJP has not used its onetime loksabha mandate to aggressively prosecute what is ultimately the System itself brought forth though decades of BIF & Congie elements incorporated into it.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 19 May 2019 15:42

Guys, any truth to this or empty boast?

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/lok-sab ... ta-2039707

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 May 2019 15:51

^^
How does anyone know? Assume whatever gives comfort to your heart.

https://www.news18.com/news/politics/he ... 46807.html
'He Probably Wants to Replace Me as CM': Punjab Congress on Tenterhooks as Captain-Sidhu Rift Widens

On the recent rebellion by Sidhu, who had accused the chief minister of being responsible for denial of ticket to his wife Navjot Kaur from Chandigarh, Captain said he was harming the party with such irresponsible actions. “It is not his election but that of the entire Congress,” said the chief minister.

He added that it was for the high command to decide on any action against Sidhu but the party did not tolerate indiscipline. Responding to a question, Singh said he did not have any personal grievances with Sidhu, whom he had known since the latter was a child. “Perhaps he is ambitious and wants to be chief minister,” Captain said.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 19 May 2019 16:15

CRamS wrote:Guys, any truth to this or empty boast?

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/lok-sab ... ta-2039707

hmm, trying to decide if I should issue warnings everytime you post from NDTV.

meanwhile, excellent article here

https://www.dailyo.in/politics/west-ben ... 30746.html

Chora Shrot: The strong undercurrent for the BJP in Bengal which the TMC has sensed and is so fearful of
Many BJP supporters are silent, fearing TMC violence. Their votes could speak in favour of the BJP and surprise many watching.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 19 May 2019 16:30

Rahul M wrote:
CRamS wrote:Guys, any truth to this or empty boast?
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/lok-sab ... ta-2039707
hmm, trying to decide if I should issue warnings everytime you post from NDTV.

Is it too much to expect a short summary to be posted accompanying rrNDTV links or Wire/Scroll/Caravan links or any news links for that matter.
Instead of forcing people to click links with a "Guys, any truth to this or empty boast?" kind of clickbait?
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Also request the admins/mods to unban those who have been banned in this dhaga, considering that the election comes to a close today with the exit polls & the actual results rolling in this week...

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Netflix is actively pushing the "Resist against the Hindurashtra" narrative portraying Hindus as Nazis for all the Libtards post 2019 if the results turn out to be OK(touchwood) for BJP.

This show supposedly debuts on June 15.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yxjRgwYymg

My 1 star review of Netflix on Google Playstore immediately after watching the trailer & commenting & downvoting on youtube.

Netflix India is propagating Hinduphobia through its shows like Leila ,Patriot Act and Sacred Games all over the World. Iam worried that my school going children will be discriminated and harassed just because they profess Hindu faith.I will be petitioning my local elected representatives to sanction Netflix for its blatant Hinduphobia.

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 19 May 2019 16:43

FWIW:

Dr Praveen Patil
@5Forty3
Personally, I don't know what other polls are saying. Neither have access to TV nor the time.
But let me say this unequivocally, we are 100% confident about our numbers and our models, even if the whole world says something else!
3:36 PM · May 19, 2019

My guess is that BJP alone gets 320+ seats and NDA is 350+.

aylamrin · Post by **aylamrin** » 19 May 2019 16:55

sanjayc wrote:Google News search results are actively being gamed to shape opinions about India during election time. They are actively promoting articles written by Indian house negroes in Western rags. Out of the top 20 search results in Google News regarding "India" today, 16 are from New York Times, WaPo, BBC, CNN, The Guardian and AlJazeera. Even news from Times of India doesn't make it to page 1. This is becoming a serious problem and Anglo Saxons won't stop their mischief as long as we remain consumers of their digital ecosystem. We need to learn from China on how to set them right.

Who wants this putrid stench early morning with tea? Definitely, not the ones who will be in a rush to fulfil their democratic duties, before the sun climbes any higher ...

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 19 May 2019 17:09

And the 2 people who went against the grain of mainstream predictions and got it right.

One is a data scientist and the other is a reporter.

Meet the expert who correctly predicted the election result using social media and why the traditional pollsters got it so wrong

Sky News commentator Sharri Markson predicted Liberal win eight days before election

Mukesh.Kumar · Post by **Mukesh.Kumar** » 19 May 2019 17:13

How come exit polls have already started airing when voting is still not over. I believe R-Nob has already gone live?