2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Yagnasri » 08 May 2019 11:44

banrjeer wrote:Bosses it's time to wake up, we are not a majority by any means. It's an illusion shoved down our throat and non semitized desis are gullible enough to swallow it.


BJP on its own will be around 250 or a bit less. With NDA there will be majority. If the UP score in 60+ then we may be looking at a BJP majority also. But 60+ in UP may be very difficult to get. So I do not see any great reason to fear.

As for as nationalist agenda, much of it can be implemented without sole majority also provided we have political will. I do hope we will have it this time.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby disha » 08 May 2019 12:01

fanne wrote:2009 election we have bad analysis. Congress won (in spite of 26/11) because of many factors, most important being, NAREGA. Modi welfare scheme are 10 times bigger. Hope it does the trick for 2019


Even now we are doing lazy analysis of 2004 and 2009.

On 2009, there was a certain feel good sentiment due to growth and stagflation had not hit yet. Further, the feudal lines via NREGA was consolidated.

Think it from the perspective of the bottom third. They are below or at poverty line and even if they are hovering a little above poverty line any shock (accident, medical illness etc) pushes them below the poverty line.

At this point, humans are living at subsistence. They are looking for food on an hourly basis! Yes at least in 2009, 30% of Indians still had to worry about getting the next meal. Leave shelter and clothing out of the way.

In this scenario, NREGA provided some hope. Even if 80% was eaten up by the local "goonda" or local caste leader, at least 20% used to flow into their kitty providing some hope.

By 2009, a post-modern feudal system was very much in place and the voting patterns followed that feudal lines. NREGA should be viewed as the bloodline for that feudal distribution network. For both the benefactor and the receiver. This is easily 40% of the population. Urban and rural combined.

Take the case of UP itself. @70 seates in UP in 2009 can be said to be won on feudal lines itself (CONgoons, SP, BSP). In such a scenario, voting outside of the feudal line was risky. Since you will lose the benefit of being within the group for something which is not tangible. Patriotism is not tangible (it does not put food in the tummy), Ram temple is not tangible (it does not put shelter over you) and so on. To repeat, if your focus is to get the next meal to survive, everything else goes on the back burner, And therein hangs the core tale.

In 2009, there was no leader on the horizon from the BJP (the primary opposition party, the rest being caste based dynastic groupings) that could provide tangible gains for large swathes of population. Ex Deputy-PM LKA was already pushing 80+ years. Hon. ex-PM ABV had retired from public life. BJP was direction less and what it got was more or less its core vote base (@20%, which in itself is significant!).

So what happened in 2014. UPA-2 did double down on mai-baap and brought in more of the same. The feudal society was not just sustained but was enhanced. Still it did not help!

Part of the reason is the economic conditions. There is only so much a trickle down economy can do, particularly in the face of stagflation. When you get Rs. 10 to get food, but the food inflation is high so much so that it is out of reach, it breeds resentment. Particularly when you know what is meant for you is taken away by the "system". Of course there is the problem of employment, opportunities, corruption etc ... But that is middle-class worries.

Enter Modi. A regional leader who did create enormous economic opportunities for his people in spite of adversities. He had ideas. He had implemented them. He was charismatic and here is one person who could deliver results. Hence large swathes converted.

2014 was a vote for hope. 2019 is a vote for continuation of that hope.

If one looks at last 5 years dispassionately, the goal of the government was to break the feudal chains. Keep food inflation in check (it is a distribution challenge and not production, so good roads/infrastructure/DFCs etc), setup JAM (cut out the middle-men, get the deposit directly into their bank accounts), provide the social net (ayushman, accident insurance) that ensures that once you are above poverty line, an untoward accident does not push you back into poverty line. Mudra scheme, allows another layer of credit to bypass the local hierarchy.

The above was a bold bet. And is paying off in spades. It broke the back of the post-modern feudal society. Hence all feudalistic parties (dynastic parties) are staring at irrelevancy. CONgoons, SP/BSP etc.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Patni » 08 May 2019 12:05

IMHO, In last few weeks, the left-liberal/urban naxal and assorted tukde-tukde BIF is increasingly being forced to reveal itself. The increased desperation to defeat modi somehow is resulting in more and more revelation of underlaying web. I sure hope more attention is paid to clean up all this garbage and cobwebs post new government formation.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby jaysimha » 08 May 2019 12:28

CANDIDATE AFFIDAVIT MANAGEMENT
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https://affidavit.eci.gov.in/CandidateC ... =37&page=5

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 08 May 2019 12:29

Patni wrote:IMHO, In last few weeks, the left-liberal/urban naxal and assorted tukde-tukde BIF is increasingly being forced to reveal itself. The increased desperation to defeat modi somehow is resulting in more and more revelation of underlaying web. I sure hope more attention is paid to clean up all this garbage and cobwebs post new government formation.


Modi is no Putin on such matters.. not sure what he can do w/o transgressing constitutional powers.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Patni » 08 May 2019 12:43

OmkarC wrote:
Patni wrote:IMHO, In last few weeks, the left-liberal/urban naxal and assorted tukde-tukde BIF is increasingly being forced to reveal itself. The increased desperation to defeat modi somehow is resulting in more and more revelation of underlaying web. I sure hope more attention is paid to clean up all this garbage and cobwebs post new government formation.


Modi is no Putin on such matters.. not sure what he can do w/o transgressing constitutional powers.

IMHO the airing out (exposing them) of such cesspools is a good start as it will help a little in preventing young freshers falling for cool-aid drinking. Best line of action (being already pursued), against such externally funded initiative to break India, is exposing money trails by constant scrutiny and naming the fountain heads! let mango people learn to recognise true faces of enemies of bharatmata!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Prasad » 08 May 2019 12:45

You guys need some comic relief in such a serious thread - https://twitter.com/abpnewstv/status/11 ... 2111847424

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Mukesh.Kumar » 08 May 2019 12:49

OmkarC wrote:
Patni wrote:IMHO, In last few weeks, the left-liberal/urban naxal and assorted tukde-tukde BIF is increasingly being forced to reveal itself. The increased desperation to defeat modi somehow is resulting in more and more revelation of underlaying web. I sure hope more attention is paid to clean up all this garbage and cobwebs post new government formation.


Modi is no Putin on such matters.. not sure what he can do w/o transgressing constitutional powers.


Don't sweat it. Even this is good. Just refer the video someone shared a couple of pages back. The elephant had a long memory. The outgoing tide has revealed the muck. Sure BIF forces will surge back but we are also creating another generation of people who know and remember. It's going to be a long fight. But as long as awareness is there we will right wrongs eventually.

As Suraj sir also pointed out, rising affluence will make people think. As we grow stronger more people will find it to their advantage to join in the caravan of a strong India.

Don't worry. As many have shared on the forum, we all have to varying degrees made the transition from DIM (Deracinated Indian Macayulite) to a more Indic perspectives.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Mukesh.Kumar » 08 May 2019 12:50

Prasad wrote:You guys need some comic relief in such a serious thread - https://twitter.com/abpnewstv/status/11 ... 2111847424



:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Seems summer heat is getting too the chap

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Hari Seldon » 08 May 2019 14:07

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Sachin » 08 May 2019 14:57

Mean while at North Eastern India..
Polling at 168 booths of Tripura declared void, re-polling on May 12: EC

And nothing heard about the polling related incidents in West Bengal :roll:.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Hari Nair » 08 May 2019 15:43

Worth a read :
https://www.mynation.com/india-news/gurumurthy-drops-bomb-says-sonia-begged-rajiv-killers-ltte-to-win-over-dmk-in-2004-this-is-worst-karma-pr53nx

Its a shame that the larger conspiracy was never unearthed or was deliberately kept hidden. Its coming back to haunt them.

Prasad wrote:You guys need some comic relief in such a serious thread - https://twitter.com/abpnewstv/status/11 ... 2111847424


Appears to be zoned out, I would think. This gent is getting obsessed with winning and appears visibly desperate.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 08 May 2019 16:36

We the People of India
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Perhaps it's not the Dynasty which now controls the ecosystem, but it's the other way round. The cabal, the nexus, the mafia, the ecosystem is now self sustaining, but needs a front in the Dynasty led Congress Party.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 08 May 2019 16:56

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#ChintamaniSpeaks #Elections2019 @Election_in We were contacted yesterday by a powerful political force to tailor our projections to suit them, as they feel they were being impacted. We refused and were threatened. Fingers crossed.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 08 May 2019 17:17

Oppn parties say they will not bother waiting for call to prove majority, but will approach the president directly on 23rd with signed letters supporting each other.

so if the NDA is 1 short of 274, everyone in Oppn is prepared to prop up a rag tag thugbandhan to keep BJP out of power, same as happened in karnataka state and bengaluru municipal elections for a decade now.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Deans » 08 May 2019 17:28

disha wrote:
Kati wrote:Gurus, what do you make of this?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... yptr=yahoo


In nutshell, the effort to train the MPs is good. Hence IIDL is good (atleast the MPs will be bootstrapped based on institutional memory and shape their messages)

The report is jaundiced. Since the reporter has to pander to the bhestern world-view and has to think in terms of minority-majority and view through the prism of 'minority rights'.

Taking FWIW, there is some effort to bootstrap a cohort of MPs into effective legislatures.


I read the Atlantic mainly because its free and also because many of its non political stories are actually quite good. Its too US centric to have any understanding of India.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 08 May 2019 17:32

It will work provided they have 274 letters of winning MP's from TRS, YSR TDP INC CPIM , NC, BJD, RJD, BSP, SP together. Independants will probably wait to be courted by NDA. Well if people of India give a mandate wanting such a Govt, what can be done.

Namo must have done something for all these crooks to be together or there must be forces outside of this country who are making such a motly group come together.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Sachin » 08 May 2019 17:35

Singha wrote:Oppn parties say they will not bother waiting for call to prove majority, but will approach the president directly on 23rd with signed letters supporting each other.

It is easy to say that; but is'nt it the perogative of the President? Calling the "single largest party" is the norm, and don't think President is going to change that.

so if the NDA is 1 short of 274, everyone in Oppn is prepared to prop up a rag tag thugbandhan to keep BJP out of power, same as happened in karnataka state and bengaluru municipal elections for a decade now.

This is easier said than done. How many small time parties are there in the game, and how many have actually - physically signed these letters? In Karnataka it worked, because it is a state and there were only two "Thugs" to do the "bandhan". I don't think that is the case when it comes to Lok Sabha.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 08 May 2019 17:36

https://t.co/slrXxWm2zY?amp=1

Bhupendra Chaube analysis ...

240-250 BJP

He dismisses PP as BJP mouth piece

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 08 May 2019 17:41

Jdu, ammk and shiv sena will play key role then as nda

Maybe navin babu but he will be under threats to desist

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 08 May 2019 17:48

Ibnlive - bangalore model being tried out

New Delhi: The opposition parties are planning to call a meeting on May 21 to fine-tune their strategy on how to stake claim to form the government at the Centre in case the mandate is fractured.

Andhra Pradesh chief minister Chandrababu Naidu, sources told News18, met Congress chief Rahul Gandhi on Wednesday morning, asking him to call a meeting of all opposition parties two days before the result is announced so that all opposition leaders can be on the same page.


According to sources, the joint opposition is likely to waste no time and will rush to President Ram Nath Kovind as soon as the election result is declared to ask him to invite them first to form the government, nevermind the tally or how far they are from the majority mark.

They would go to him immediately with the request that the single largest party, which most opinion polls predicted would be the BJP, is not invited first in case of a hung house.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 08 May 2019 17:49

One thing that came out from Chaube's is CH, JH ... Tribal vote is moving away. That could be the reason for CON optimism in MH, CG, JH and even MP. As we have seen in an earlier video of interview in CG, tribal women like all the help but will vote CON party because church told them so due to dharam.

That is the confidence of PAPPU and CON eco-system of waiting till 2024. These will be totally converted and church will hold the string along with Islamists.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Patni » 08 May 2019 17:52

Who ever thought up of releasing plan to petition president to stop inviting single largest party to form a government, and that entire spectrum of non-nda parties will sign such letter, must be secretly working to ensure BJP gets majority! I cant think of bigger jolt to fence sitters to wake up and smell stink that idea generates!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 08 May 2019 18:00

exactly. in sprinting, they teach to imagine the finish tape 10m past the real tape and keep running as if the real tape did not exist.

this is how usain bolt crushed the WR 200m in 2008 olympics.

in 100m he could have broken it too, but preferred to raise his hands and coast in (he crushed it in berlin 2009 world cup)

every plane that can fly even on one wing has to be in the air now and NDA has to turn into wind and launch full deckloads.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Singha wrote:Ibnlive - bangalore model being tried out

New Delhi: The opposition parties are planning to call a meeting on May 21 to fine-tune their strategy on how to stake claim to form the government at the Centre in case the mandate is fractured.

Andhra Pradesh chief minister Chandrababu Naidu, sources told News18, met Congress chief Rahul Gandhi on Wednesday morning, asking him to call a meeting of all opposition parties two days before the result is announced so that all opposition leaders can be on the same page.

According to sources, the joint opposition is likely to waste no time and will rush to President Ram Nath Kovind as soon as the election result is declared to ask him to invite them first to form the government, nevermind the tally or how far they are from the majority mark.

They would go to him immediately with the request that the single largest party, which most opinion polls predicted would be the BJP, is not invited first in case of a hung house.



if seats don't matter, then why have the EC, the EC machinery, and all the other superfluous and dispensible things

why have elections at all.

anyone can simply go ahead and form the govt.

and, inform the president after the event.

the parliament has spoken, no

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Pratyush » 08 May 2019 18:36

Patni wrote:Who ever thought up of releasing plan to petition president to stop inviting single largest party to form a government, and that entire spectrum of non-nda parties will sign such letter, must be secretly working to ensure BJP gets majority! I cant think of bigger jolt to fence sitters to wake up and smell stink that idea generates!



No shortage of idiots in India who will support this thought process. Just to see the back of Modi.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Pratyush » 08 May 2019 18:38

BJP if you are watching. No let up in this fight. Give no quarter. For you will be given none by the opposition.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Vips » 08 May 2019 19:20

There are a string of reports today in The Wire You tube channel all by anchors who are non hindu and are openly indulging in anti BJP propoganda.

(Pr) Ashant Bushan has given interview today saying the CJI is guilty as the compliant against him has given 30 different evidence. Isnt he openly defying the law by giving an interview when the matter is sub judice? Contempt of court proceedings should be started against him immediately.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KL Dubey » 08 May 2019 19:24

Regarding the results of May 23, I feel people are getting unnecessarily spooked.

Some are believing fake news about Ramamadhavan declaring "he will be happy with 271", or Yesterday's Chanakya posting projections.

Folks - NDA is not getting 90% of the vote, it is getting more like 45-50% (and about 40% last time in 2014). So it is not at all hard to find people who are not voting NDA, and indeed the majority of Indians do NOT need to vote for the NDA for it to receive a 350+ seat result. Just seeing some videos of people saying they won't vote NDA seems to send shivers down some spines.

I am in the capital of gawd's own country right now. Today I talked about the election with 5 random people - none of whom voted for BJP - but who all thought the BJP would end up kicking out Tharoor this time.

There are also people posting all kinds of analysis with no information on where these projections are coming from. At least Dr BB appears to have a real team in place and a real methodology. Most of the others are hard to take seriously, especially since they never mention their LS 2014 prediction versus the actual result (or for that matter any of the the subsequent VS elections). Dr BB does have an overall very high accuracy of predictions in the past 5 years so it is not easy to disregard his analysis.

And finally, the "Satta Bazaar"....seriously!! :roll:

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby pankajs » 08 May 2019 19:35

Sachin wrote:
Singha wrote:Oppn parties say they will not bother waiting for call to prove majority, but will approach the president directly on 23rd with signed letters supporting each other.

It is easy to say that; but is'nt it the perogative of the President? Calling the "single largest party" is the norm, and don't think President is going to change that.

so if the NDA is 1 short of 274, everyone in Oppn is prepared to prop up a rag tag thugbandhan to keep BJP out of power, same as happened in karnataka state and bengaluru municipal elections for a decade now.

This is easier said than done. How many small time parties are there in the game, and how many have actually - physically signed these letters? In Karnataka it worked, because it is a state and there were only two "Thugs" to do the "bandhan". I don't think that is the case when it comes to Lok Sabha.

1. IIRC, largest "pre-election" formation and Largest party after that and so on an so forth ... is the usual decision pathway. NDA will get the call if it has the highest seat of all "pre-election" formation EVEN if it is short of majority
2. PLUS a healthy dose presidential discretion. Not for nothing the Presidential election(s) have been fiercely contested in recent days. I will not say more than that.
3. Even in Karnataka, BJP got the first shot at forming the government.
4. This is where chanakya neeti will be deployed to the fullest. GOI has access to a lot of material and Modi can do a JEdgarH can be very persuasive when push comes to shove.

The need will simply not arise if the current "hawa" is any indication.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KLNMurthy » 08 May 2019 19:53

Mukesh.Kumar wrote:
Prasad wrote:You guys need some comic relief in such a serious thread - https://twitter.com/abpnewstv/status/11 ... 2111847424



:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Seems summer heat is getting too the chap

He is echoing RoL theory + pop psychology in his own confused and self-centered way. This is the story gora affluent parents tell their kids when they come home crying after someone bullies them at school.

Also proving (as if needed) he can never be in charge of national security.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KLNMurthy » 08 May 2019 20:07

Singha wrote:Oppn parties say they will not bother waiting for call to prove majority, but will approach the president directly on 23rd with signed letters supporting each other.

so if the NDA is 1 short of 274, everyone in Oppn is prepared to prop up a rag tag thugbandhan to keep BJP out of power, same as happened in karnataka state and bengaluru municipal elections for a decade now.

It will be upto the President’s discretion. It’s one of the few times when President has meaningful discretionary power.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 08 May 2019 20:12

Dhoti-shivering is getting to be high here: discussing the Cabinet-ul-Goons. :roll: Maybe one SHOULD post that on SocMedia to drive home the prospects facing voters:

RaGa, Chief Executive (this "Prime Minister" is for sissies, look at Gen. Musharraf)
SoGa, Ceo-Mother and Point of Contact For All Foreign Deal Collections Above $20B. (like Queen-Mother in Bilayat)
Well.. I can't recall many of the mini-good names any more. Maybe
Mayawati: Minister For Integrity
Laloo Prasad Yadav: Minister for Aviation Collections
Robert Vodhra, Minister for Enterprise Collections
Mamata Banerji: Minister for Defence Purchasing and Cross-Border Arrival Collections.
Pumpkinji: Minister for Snake Charming Collections.
Baccha Chidambaram Minister for Finance Collections.
P. Chidambaram, FinMin Father (like Queen Mother)
Mullah Owaisi: Minister for Religious Tolerance

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chanakyaa » 08 May 2019 20:19

It will work provided they have 274 letters of winning MP's from TRS, YSR TDP INC CPIM , NC, BJD, RJD, BSP, SP together. Independants will probably wait to be courted by NDA. Well if people of India give a mandate wanting such a Govt

Here is for BJP IT cell. Start spreading rumors information before last 2 phases of polling that after forming a maha-thug-Bandhan by these esteemed parties (10 parties) prime ministership will be rotated between parties (new prime minister every six months) covering 5 years :D. Doubt it will come to that. Phir ek bar (and anekbar) Namo sarkar.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby khatvaanga » 08 May 2019 20:21

Suraj wrote:More thoughts on RaGa's messaging:
2a) It is very hard to keep track of the numbers. They keep changing. 10K here, 30K there, 40K.. The least RaGa could do is maintain some kind of 'Claims Passbook' where he can add new entries . For example 'Recipient' column can be pre-filled in as 'Modi' , unless there are plans to claim Modi gave money to others too. Maybe that can be in a separate ledger but that presents double entry book-keeping issues. Iteratively he can add new entries e.g. M Ambani / Modi / {date} / {Rs. crore} . Makes things much easier to follow. This can be triumphantly held aloft at rallies. The approach of responding to further questioning by saying 'I don't know the details of the numbers, ask Chidambaram', is not scalable past one use.

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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: now analysing RaGa's messaging more than even his ardent fans. thanks Suraj!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 08 May 2019 20:42

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Italian journalist Francesca Marino pieces together an investigative account of #IAF’s #Balacot strike, says 130-170 #JaisheMohammed terrorists & several Pak army trainers were killed in the strike on Feb 26. Read! ⁦@OfficialDGISPR⁩



BALAKOT: MORE DETAILS REVEALED

BALAKOT: MORE DETAILS REVEALED


07-May-2019

Despite Pakistan’s efforts to deceive the world on the Indian airstrikes on the Jaish-e-Muhammad camp, small details of what happened in Balakot in the wee hours of February 26 and thereafter have kept trickling in from my source. This article is an attempt to piece together all the informations I gathered and to fill the gaps into what it has become the jigsaw puzzle of the Balakot strike.

As it is well known now, the IAF strike was carried out at around 3.30 am. According to my informations, an Army unit, from their camp in Shinkiari, arrived at the location of the strike on February 26 at around 6 am, two and a half hours later. Shinkari is around 20 kms away from Balakot, and the Army unit would have taken around 35-40 minutes to reach the location from where the climb to the camp begins. Incidentally, Shinkiari is also a base of the Pakistan Army, with the Junior Leaders Academy (JLA) located there. Immediately after the Army unit arrival, the injured were taken to a Harkat-ul-Mujahideen camp, located in Shinkiari and treated by Pakistan Army doctors. Local sources say around 45 persons are still undergoing treatment in this camp, while around 20 have died during treatment due to serious injuries. Those who have recovered are still in custody of the Army and have not been discharged. Based on the different inputs that have been gathered over the last several weeks through my contact, it can now also be safely said that the impact of the strike immediately killed a large number of JeM cadres. The numbers estimated have ranged from 130-170, including those who have died during treatment. Those killed included 11 trainers, ranging from bomb makers to those imparting weapons training. Two of these trainers were from Afghanistan. To prevent news on the fatalities leaking through statements of family members of cadres, a group of JeM members also visited the families of those killed and handed over cash compensation to them. Adjacent to the Blue Pine Hotel, located on the foothill from where one starts the trek for the JeM camp, is a freshly painted signboard that indicates the presence of the Taleem-ul-Quran on the hilltop. Unlike the earlier board, all links to JeM leader and now internationally proscribed terrorist Masood Azhar has been removed. The camp area is still under the control of the Army, with a Captain rank officer of the Mujahid battalion in command. The access to the dust track leading to the camp is still restricted, even to the local police. Apart from a few children and 3-4 teachers, the camp has been cleared of any traces of it earlier being a JeM camp. Meanwhile, inhabitants of Bisian township, near the JeM camp, still discuss of some locals having noticed vehicles dumping rubble in the Kunhar River during the first night after the strike. There is also talk about the JeM leadership having assured its cadres that the group will take its revenge when the time is ripe.

Francesca Marino


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