2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 08 May 2019 20:46

Chintamani



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#ChintamaniSpeaks #Elections2019 @Election_in We were the first to confirm that Rahul was losing Amethi. This has rattled the Congress badly, but now more and more analysts are making bold following our lead, and confirming the same. If RaGa loses Amethi, Congress won’t cross 50.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 08 May 2019 21:03

Suyash Bharadwaj



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Thank you!
I have been predicting Elections for last 6-7 years. Got 62.5 correct calls out of 65 I called including 2014 state by state.
Wrong ones being Delhi 2015, Bihar 2015 and Karnataka 2018 half wrong (sensed the right direction but gave BJP wave).
Suyash Bharadwaj added,


Did anyone follow him earlier?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby banrjeer » 08 May 2019 21:04

OmkarC wrote:
Patni wrote:IMHO, In last few weeks, the left-liberal/urban naxal and assorted tukde-tukde BIF is increasingly being forced to reveal itself. The increased desperation to defeat modi somehow is resulting in more and more revelation of underlaying web. I sure hope more attention is paid to clean up all this garbage and cobwebs post new government formation.


Modi is no Putin on such matters.. not sure what he can do w/o transgressing constitutional powers.



The counter to the tukde gang is “kangali” .. Everyone becomes poorer with their scheme. I have not heard enough on the opposition = financial ruin argument.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 08 May 2019 21:05

Gurumurthy bomb: ‘Sonia begged Rajiv’s killers LTTE to win over DMK in 2004. This is worst karma’



Gurumurthy bomb: ‘Sonia begged Rajiv’s killers LTTE to win over DMK in 2004. This is worst karma’

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Gurumurthy drops bomb says Sonia begged Rajiv killers LTTE to win over DMK in 2004 this is worst karma



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Right-wing ideologue tears into Congress’s own dubious history of appeasing Rajiv Gandhi’s killers for political gains, counters Priyanka Vadra’s karma jibe at PM Narendra Modi


New Delhi: Congress scion Priyanka Vadra has questioned PM Narendra Modi’s karma for his “Brashtachari No 1” comment about her late father Rajiv Gandhi, but karma slur has boomeranged on the Gandhis. Right-wing ideologue S Gurumurthy has now questioned Sonia Gandhi for allegedly secretly establishing links with Rajiv’s assassin LTTE to wean over the DMK from NDA for an alliance with the Congress in 2004.

In a series of tweets, Gurumurthy referred to his 2008 newspaper article in which he had claimed that Rajiv’s widow Sonia had sacrificed the death of her husband on the altar of politics.

Speaking exclusively to MyNation, Gurumurthy said Sonia Gandhi had contacted Rajiv’s killer and LTTE chief V Prabhakaran for getting the DMK’s support for the Congress. This after she had pulled the plug on the United Front government in 1997 when it refused to expunge the DMK. The Jain Commission of inquiry suspected the DMK of having a hand in Rajiv’s assassination.

Betraying one’s own?

“According to the information I had from a third party, the Island Newspaper in Sri Lanka, which I had substantiated from my own sources back then and which I obviously cannot reveal, said that when Sonia Gandhi wanted to enter politics, she did not want any hostility with the LTTE. She said that the killers must not be hanged and that she had forgiven them. Secondly, she wanted them to support her,” Gurumurthy said.

“She could not have sent Eduardo Faleiro to Prabhakaran and Sonia’s mother Paulo Maino could not have met LTTE interlocutor Anton Balasingham by just calling up. There must have been some very powerful interlocutors facilitating it. And there must have been some pre-existing relationship between interlocutors and LTTE. So who are they?” he added.
“If you can make a deal with the killers of your husband for politics, what is your karma? She traded her husband’s death for politics,” Gurmurthy said.


“She did not pursue the investigation into the conspiracies behind the assassination with the Multi-Disciplinary Monitoring Agency (MDMA) formed in 1998. She did not once pursue the matter during the UPA rule,” the ideologue added. “This is much worse karma.”

The Twitter salvo

Meanwhile, Gurumurthy shot a series of tweets on the matter. “With Sonia's entry into politics all her commitment to get her husband's killers to book evaporated. Afterwards she sought peace with her husband killers. She begged main conspirator LTTE's support to get its fan DMK to shift from NDA to UPA which was crucial to win 2004 poll,” he tweeted.

“In 1999 she told President KR Narayanan privately neither she nor her son and her daughter wanted any of the convicts sentenced to death for killing Rajiv to be hanged. Thai was revealed by Mohini Giri (ex-head NCW) See Frontline magazine friendly to the Left Nov 5-18 2005,” he added.

In another tweet he said, “Sonia was not in politics in 1997 when she demanded action against DMK for associating with LTTE to kill Rajiv. But after locked Sitaram Kesari who had gone to toilet & sat in Congress presidential chair, she changed. The first thing she did was to befriend her husband's killers.”

“Sonia's & her mother's secret moves to beg LTTE's pardon seemed to have started ahead of Dec 2003 when DMK & congress appeared to have agreed on the alliance. In Jan 2004 Sonia met Karunanidhi and firmed up the alliance. In 1997 in Amethi she had hinted DMK was a fan of LTTE,” he added, claiming, “Sonia pulled down UPF govt in 1997 because she wanted DMK accused by Jain Commission as being part of the LTTE conspiracy to kill her husband Rajiv, out. In 1997 LTTE & DMK were killers of her husband. In 2004 they became her allies. @RahulGandhi what about Sonia's karma?”
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 08 May 2019 21:06

All the talk of the N parties going to El President with signed letter discusses boring Presidential procedure details. I think it misses the real dynamic - why are N parties naming themselves openly ? Which are those parties ? Why weren't they in a pre-poll alliance ?

In power dynamics, openly naming yourself as an opponent is frowned upon, when you normally have more to gain by waiting opportunistically. Stepping forward and saying 'I already made my choice' early, is not usually in the self interest. You have already offered your allegiance free of charge and no one owes you much as a result - the group you're supporting or the one you're opposing.

Would you rather support the one big party that needs a little help to cross a line (and for which they're grateful to you), or would you rather be part of a 2-dozen large entity where everyone is small yet everyone considers themselves important to its group cohesion, and therefore all want important gravy trains and are busy fighting over it ? What if some important berth goes to another small party you have 'history' with ?

Think this like a politician, not like a middle class person sitting behind a computer leafing through Presidential prerogatives and Constitution. What gets you a better deal ?

Group dynamics like this are fascinating to parse in the context of individual self interest. It's tritely argued 'they're coming together for their survival'. I'm pointing out that not having access to gravy train within their own 2-dozen large coalition is more harmful than allying with the SLP who feels indebted to them and gives them something out of proportion with their numbers.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Prasad » 08 May 2019 21:12

Also the threat of going to the SC to combat any election result - part of ecosystem at work.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Ranarasika » 08 May 2019 21:15

The captain is taking the entire Naamdar clan to cleaners with huge fanfare, drum-beat and shankhnaad. :D

The Times Now interview (Kurukshetra - 8th May - today) 17 minutes and full on aggression. Slowly builds the tempo till 7:15 mins and then ... Practically for the jingo by the jingo. :)



Kurukshetra campaign rally : watch from 24:30 on-wards he lists down all the slugs hurled at him since his CM days by the Naamdar clan and their Uruk-hais.



This one is the clincher. Delhi Ramlila maidan

PM Modi in Delhi: At the time when, INS Virat was positioned for protection of maritime boundaries, it was sent to take Rajiv Gandhi and his family to an island for their holiday. Even his in-laws were onboard INS Virat. Was it not a compromise of national security?


Watch from 40:20 onward.


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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Ranarasika » 08 May 2019 21:27

Then he topped it up with this.

@narendramodi
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Ever imagined that a premier warship of the Indian armed forces could be used as a taxi for a personal holiday?

One Dynasty did it and that too with great swag.

Read this and share widely!


https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status/1126146828079108097

He plugged in the indiatoday article - Aroon Purie :rotfl:

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/indiascope/story/19880131-idyllic-vacation-for-the-gandhis-in-the-lakshadweep-archipelago-769007-2013-11-21

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Karan M » 08 May 2019 21:33

This is heavily making the rounds on WA.
https://www.news18.com/news/politics/sa ... 32129.html

This report could be the reason for the regional parties suddenly thinking they have a chance.


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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 08 May 2019 21:35

Prasad wrote:Also the threat of going to the SC to combat any election result - part of ecosystem at work.

Yes it is quite likely that it's the ecosystem at work here, while the parties themselves don't want to shoot themselves in the foot by either naming themselves or making a stance on their position far too early. The ecosystem on the other hand, as a lot to lose if their patronage structures start to disintegrate, and they've every reason to advocate pushing various groups together even if those entities have no such desire.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 08 May 2019 21:38

https://twitter.com/VDPAssociates/statu ... 6649663489

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For BJP to woo DMK first DMK has to do well #LokSabhaElections2019
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#ElectionsWithNews18 – Had BJP treated their allies properly, they could have faced this election with more conviction, @asaravanan21 (Spokesperson, DMK), tells @Zakka_Jacob on #FaceOff.



VDP is hinting DMK doob gaya … LOL ...


More hint coming :rotfl:
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Chai,coffee,biskets,samosas waste."21 parties to hold joint conclave and meet President with joint petition not to call single largest party" before results day

https://t.co/70LcR9YBZZ
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Yagnasri » 08 May 2019 21:51

In respect of who should be called to form the government. 1. The single party which has the majority. 2. The single prepoll alliance which has the majority (this is for sure will be NDA)3. The post-poll alliance. 4. Anyone who commands the majority in the house.

K R Narayanan was an EJ and there was no need to ask for letters etc as he did for ABV. So the present President is not bound to follow him.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 08 May 2019 22:15

Have people forgotten that Priyanka Vadra went and met Nalini the co-accused in the Rajiv Gandhi murder case?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vijayk » 08 May 2019 22:22



When she asked about Modi, Modi chants … He says I will more responsible; I see their hopes/aspirations

Mamta not considering him as PM - She called Imran as PM after Pulwama but she does not want to call me PM whom Indians elected

Priyanka calling him Duryodhan - I want to be silent on it

Confidence on winning - Pro incumbency wave. NDA will be > 320, BJP will be > 282 and poll percentage will increase (he doesn't have to insist on). This election

on issues - they can ask me any thing: roads/infra/electricity/laws

PAPPU wants to image destroy image. He himself repeats lies again and again to destroy my image.

OMG! Destroying dynasty into pieces peices ...

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 08 May 2019 22:32

Ranarasika wrote:Then he topped it up with this.

@narendramodi
10m10 minutes ago
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Ever imagined that a premier warship of the Indian armed forces could be used as a taxi for a personal holiday?

One Dynasty did it and that too with great swag.

Read this and share widely!


https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status/1126146828079108097

He plugged in the indiatoday article - Aroon Purie :rotfl:

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/indiascope/story/19880131-idyllic-vacation-for-the-gandhis-in-the-lakshadweep-archipelago-769007-2013-11-21



here is the guest list and the arrangements made for them

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby nachiket » 08 May 2019 23:18

Singha wrote:Oppn parties say they will not bother waiting for call to prove majority, but will approach the president directly on 23rd with signed letters supporting each other.

so if the NDA is 1 short of 274, everyone in Oppn is prepared to prop up a rag tag thugbandhan to keep BJP out of power, same as happened in karnataka state and bengaluru municipal elections for a decade now.


Well first of all, they can appeal to the president all they want but they can't compel him to do anything against the precedent. And Ram Nath Kovind is a BJP member who will tell them to eff off and let him do his job. :lol:

Secondly, do we know which parties are included in this list? CBN can jump up and down all he wants but unless TRS, YCP and BJD are included in this alliance (which I am sure they are not at the moment) there is no way for them to reach a simple majority and any government formation attempt can be defeated on the floor. There are many small parties with single digit MP counts that can be persuaded to support the NDA post polls if they are only slightly short. The problem will arise only if the entire NDA gets around 250-260 or less.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Tamang » 08 May 2019 23:25

UPDATED: May 8, 2019 22:46 IST


India Today article was updated. What did they edit?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 08 May 2019 23:32

nachiket wrote:
Singha wrote:Oppn parties say they will not bother waiting for call to prove majority, but will approach the president directly on 23rd with signed letters supporting each other.

so if the NDA is 1 short of 274, everyone in Oppn is prepared to prop up a rag tag thugbandhan to keep BJP out of power, same as happened in karnataka state and bengaluru municipal elections for a decade now.


Well first of all, they can appeal to the president all they want but they can't compel him to do anything against the precedent. And Ram Nath Kovind is a BJP member who will tell them to eff off and let him do his job. :lol:

Secondly, do we know which parties are included in this list? CBN can jump up and down all he wants but unless TRS, YCP and BJD are included in this alliance (which I am sure they are not at the moment) there is no way for them to reach a simple majority and any government formation attempt can be defeated on the floor. There are many small parties with single digit MP counts that can be persuaded to support the NDA post polls if there is a need.



Guys,

I am hearing unconfirmed news from folks back in TG, that TRS is preparing ground for joining UPA with HD Kumaraswamy being the mediator. This drops at least 10-13 MP seats in UPA kitty. Perhaps this was Congress & TRS strategy all along to have this friendly fight and deny BJP opposition space in the 2019 polls, if this alliance was forged pre-poll it would've caused an exodus from both congress & TRS to BJP. Also that KCR's current Ally - Jagan - is also being seriously wooed by congress to follow TRS route.. That's another 15 MP seats. If TDP for sure will be in UPA, Jagan could provide "outside" support to UPA.

Since these are just some vague ground reports (albeit from folks I trust), would appreciate if anyone else confirms or refutes them. Esp folks hailing from TG. Thanks.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 08 May 2019 23:37

BJP is already going to take up the opposition space in TG as Cong is on the verge of collapse in TG. It will happen in another 2-3 election cycles. KCR joining UPA will only make it quicker. Similar to what is happening in Dakshin Kannada where the contest was always between JDS and INC but following the alliance BJP has made a break through. AP is the only outlier but I don't think Jagan and TDP will be on the same side. If they do it will open up space for BJP.

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Postby disha » 08 May 2019 23:42

^That would be death knell for TRC. Being associated with corrupt party is not what they can afford at this moment, particularly with ongoing "marks gate" and death of students in Telangana.

I think they are playing it too clever by 1.5.

Here is their problem, they do not want BJP to rise in TRS. They are seeing BJP flags in Kerala, TN (and of course a wave of it in K'taka). Only non-BJP area as of today is TG and AP.

So easiest thing is to do is latch on to CONgoons and take their base in TG. However going with UPA is not the right thing to do! But if they do that, it will open up space for BJP !!

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 08 May 2019 23:46

Supratik wrote:BJP is already going to take up the opposition space in TG as Cong is on the verge of collapse in TG. It will happen in another 2-3 election cycles. KCR joining UPA will only make it quicker. Similar to what is happening in Dakshin Kannada where the contest was always between JDS and INC but following the alliance BJP has made a break through. AP is the only outlier but I don't think Jagan and TDP will be on the same side. If they do it will open up space for BJP.



TG: Its obviously good news for BJP at state level, but this will play a serious spoil sport for NDA's chances if they are slightly short of majority.

AP: I am not sure of BJP's growth in AP despite both regional allying in centre.. Naidu has infused so much hatred against BJP that otherwise ordinary folks are still angry about the special status issue. Media is too strongly biased against BJP. Seeing some folks from there, the logic could be: keeping BJP out of power at center == protecting Andhra's interests --> hence showed "broadmindedness" by allying with sworn enemies.. just like UDF & LDF in Kerala occasionally allying at national level for the sake of "secularism".

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby nachiket » 08 May 2019 23:47

Omkar, have there been any reports in local Telugu media about TRS joining UPA or ThugBandhan?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 08 May 2019 23:50

Their base is old TDP different from Cong. If TRS allies with Cong there will be exodus from both parties. TRS will want a weak but stable Cong so that BJP cannot enter and they can rule longer. My guess is that they will be like BJD. No move towards NDA or UPA but they will keep both sides in good humor. An AS next target is TG. AP will remain in WB CPIM style "Kendriyo chokranto" (central conspiracy) mode for sometime. But their economy will do fine unlike WB.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 08 May 2019 23:52

disha wrote:^That would be death knell for TRC. Being associated with corrupt party is not what they can afford at this moment, particularly with ongoing "marks gate" and death of students in Telangana.

I think they are playing it too clever by 1.5.

Here is their problem, they do not want BJP to rise in TRS. They are seeing BJP flags in Kerala, TN (and of course a wave of it in K'taka). Only non-BJP area as of today is TG and AP.

So easiest thing is to do is latch on to CONgoons and take their base in TG. However going with UPA is not the right thing to do! But if they do that, it will open up space for BJP !!


If the reports are true, I think KCR has reconciled to the fact that whether Modi wins or loses in 2019, BJP will be the major opposition party he needs to fight in TG in the long run.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Mort Walker » 08 May 2019 23:53

If the NDA is down by around 5 seats, about 267, then expect a full court press on Nitish Kumar in Bihar. Thug bandhan and INC crooks will offer ministries and incentives to break him away from the NDA. I would expect Modi to sit in opposition and let them fall apart in about a year or two. It will be bad, but the BJP and regular NDA allies will be able to get a majority in a 2020 or 2021 election.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby nachiket » 08 May 2019 23:59

Unlike other alliances, there are multiple characters with massive egos in MGB who all believe they should be the PM. An MGB government will be less stable than any coalition government we have ever had.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 08 May 2019 23:59

Many Bengalies actually believed very strongly the "kendriyo chokranto" propaganda from the 70s to 90s. That indeed there was a huge conspiracy by the Center (then ruled by Congress) to keep Bengal and Bengalies down. This helped the CPIM win election after election without doing anything. In AP people will believe that there is some central conspiracy for sometime as all three parties are claiming the same. But neither UK, nor CG nor JH had any "major" central assistance when they became separate states.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 May 2019 00:00

nachiket wrote:Omkar, have there been any reports in local Telugu media about TRS joining UPA or ThugBandhan?


Nope, this is from "word of mouth" from some family friends, who are active in TRS.. I dont read/trust any telugu media outlet.

Please note - I myself am seeking confirmation of this news, and want to know if any local print media has carried this or not, or any other forumnite has heard of this.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 09 May 2019 00:06

Rishi Bagree

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Voting Percentage Phase-wise

Phase 2014 2019

1 68.77 69.50
2 69.62 69.44
3 67.15 68.40
4 63.05 65.51
5 61.53 64.21

Highest Voting Turnout in last 50 years.
Seems like Modi wave has turned into Modi Tsunami

Technically, he's a little wrong - it's not the highest in 50 years - it's the highest of any GE ever. The previous highest was GE2014.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby suryag » 09 May 2019 00:08

If KCR is smart he will play the CBN trick of the past, that is ally with BJP at the center and not let it grow in the state as an assurance

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 09 May 2019 00:44

These pics are from Cyclone Fani. Very little has been mentioned about this, beyond the good work between central and Odisha state govts in the relief efforts. Pictures were few. But these are quite revealing, to me.

Specifically, there's not much sign of destitute living. Some thatch huts. But mostly smooth roads, electrical cabling, a modern petrol bunk, a fallen over large road signage gantry, and even a family taking pics in front of stormy sea state. It would have looked like something from Thailand or Malaysia, but that is the state of our infrastructure and connectivity today. It also helps the ability to communicate and organize relief work.

What does it have to do with this thread ? Well, it provides a picture of where one of the less developed parts of the country - the north/eastern seaboard, is. In 1999, the Odisha cyclone killed 10,000+ people. In 2013, Cyclone Phailin killed 50, and this time, a dozen. Ten years ago the IPL had to be shifted out of the country during GE 2009 . This time, the GE 2019 + IPL + a decadal megacyclone are all happening at once, and things are working ok.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ShyamSP » 09 May 2019 01:06

suryag wrote:If KCR is smart he will play the CBN trick of the past, that is ally with BJP at the center and not let it grow in the state as an assurance

There are many wheels within wheels politically. Both KCR and CBN have been successful in keeping national parties at Bay and in Congress-Mukt-oldAP. YCP has secret plans to take over INC in TS to bring back old Reddy Congress. JSP has similar plans in TS. Once all regional parties come, it is back to raw Andhra Politics and national parties will have to fight for only some vote banks that spill over. Enough said as No AP discussions till last phase.

All these discussions on combinations of NDA and opposition coalition parties depend of how short NDA is to majority mark, otherwise all this is mute as Modi will be PM. BJP is still short based on expectations, 6th & 7th will have to be fought to death by it to catch the magic number and put damper of opposition dreams.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Mort Walker » 09 May 2019 01:23

Suraj wrote:Rishi Bagree

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Voting Percentage Phase-wise

Phase 2014 2019

1 68.77 69.50
2 69.62 69.44
3 67.15 68.40
4 63.05 65.51
5 61.53 64.21

Highest Voting Turnout in last 50 years.
Seems like Modi wave has turned into Modi Tsunami

Technically, he's a little wrong - it's not the highest in 50 years - it's the highest of any GE ever. The previous highest was GE2014.


I know this was asked before, but would these extra votes be anti incumbency, regional parties or for Namo?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 May 2019 01:27

ShyamSP wrote:
suryag wrote:If KCR is smart he will play the CBN trick of the past, that is ally with BJP at the center and not let it grow in the state as an assurance

There are many wheels within wheels politically. Both KCR and CBN have been successful in keeping national parties at Bay and in Congress-Mukt-oldAP. YCP has secret plans to take over INC in TS to bring back old Reddy Congress. JSP has similar plans in TS. Once all regional parties come, it is back to raw Andhra Politics and national parties will have to fight for only some vote banks that spill over. Enough said as No AP discussions till last phase.

All these discussions on combinations of NDA and opposition coalition parties depend of how short NDA is to majority mark, otherwise all this is mute as Modi will be PM. BJP is still short based on expectations, 6th & 7th will have to be fought to death by it to catch the magic number and put damper of opposition dreams.


If Congress allies with TRS, I dont think YCP will benefit at all. Ordinary TG folks do remember Jagan's pro-Andhra stance during bifurcation. JS is too leftist/populist and has no clear stance on Hindu-Muslim faultiness that exist all over the state. Plus, he has no cadre. BJP is the only party that can benefit from this alliance - already has ~ 20% votes in several constituencies and at least passionate cadre in towns & urban areas.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 May 2019 01:29

Suraj wrote:What does it have to do with this thread ? Well, it provides a picture of where one of the less developed parts of the country - the north/eastern seaboard, is. In 1999, the Odisha cyclone killed 10,000+ people. In 2013, Cyclone Phailin killed 50, and this time, a dozen. Ten years ago the IPL had to be shifted out of the country during GE 2009 . This time, the GE 2019 + IPL + a decadal megacyclone are all happening at once, and things are working ok.


Beautiful point Suraj ji..

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Suraj » 09 May 2019 02:52


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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 09 May 2019 03:10

suryag wrote:If KCR is smart he will play the CBN trick of the past, that is ally with BJP at the center and not let it grow in the state as an assurance



BJP is very serious they don't want any Telugu states party to ally with them.

Bitten too many times.

After dust settles you will find that Kerala and TN has supported a national party while both Telugu states did not.

And that will have its own dynamics.

In 1977 AP supported Congress while whole country was against them.
By 1984 there was rise of TDP.


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