Still no flights overflying Pak on way to/from India.
Hope this is not a way for Pakis to strengthen track-2's hands.
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Have you heard any track thoo heads rearing in past few months that had any tangible effect in creating propaganda on ground?
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
yensoy wrote:Still no flights overflying Pak on way to/from India.
Hope this is not a way for Pakis to strengthen track-2's hands.
Pakistan airspace finally reopens, AI San Francisco-Delhi flight first to fly over it; others to follow suit
URL : https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 239519.cms
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
It's not about tangible effects but tangible leverage.Karthik S wrote:Have you heard any track thoo heads rearing in past few months that had any tangible effect in creating propaganda on ground?
The airspace opening coming soon after the Djinnah institute "gathering" in Isloo (the return leg to be held in Delhi) and the Kartarpur talks, will naturally be leveraged for propaganda purposes by the usual suspects.
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Fully Posted on the Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis Thread
Boris Johnson claimed Islam put Muslim world 'centuries behind'
Boris Johnson claimed Islam put Muslim world 'centuries behind'
CheersAnger as 2007 essay lamenting ‘no spread of democracy’ in Islamic world comes to light - Frances Perraudin
Boris Johnson has been strongly criticised for arguing Islam has caused the Muslim world to be “literally centuries behind” the west, in an essay unearthed by the Guardian.
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Fully Posted on the Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis Thread
Winston Churchill REVELATION: War hero's 'FASCINATION with Islam' revealed in lost letter
Winston Churchill REVELATION: War hero's 'FASCINATION with Islam' revealed in lost letter
WINSTON Churchill was fascinated by the Islamic faith and some of his family believed he might have even converted to the religion after his time in India with the British Army, an uncovered letter reveals.
CALLUM HOARE - 07:26, Fri, Jan 25, 2019 | UPDATED: 07:28, Fri, Jan 25, 2019
CheersAlthough Churchill has become the embodiment of the British bulldog spirit he was also a strong admirer of the Islamic faith – so much so and his relatives believed he was on the verge of becoming a Muslim at the turn of the 20th century. The revelation is buried in a letter to Mr Churchill from his future sister-in-law, Lady Gwendoline Bertie, written in August 1907. In the letter, found by Warren Dockter of Cambridge University, Lady Gwendoline wrote: “Please don’t become converted to Islam.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
India hopes for ICJ relief in Kulbhushan Jadhav case - Sachin Parashar, ToI
While the government seemed to have taken the maximalist position by demanding that the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ask Pakistan to release Kulbhushan Jadhav, there are several other rulings which the court can pass in its judgment Wednesday which will allow India to claim vindication of its decision to knock on the doors of the international court.
Ahead of the judgment, India's main hope is that the Court will hold Pakistan guilty of having violated Vienna Convention on Consular Access (VCCR) 1963 by denying India consular access to Jadhav.
India's case was built around the same point as it exposed the farcical nature of Jadhav's military trial which resulted in his death sentence. India is also hoping, as it had pleaded before the Court in case Jadhav's release wasn't possible, the ICJ will ask Pakistan to go for a civil trial of the alleged Indian spy after allowing him consular and legal assistance from India.
For India, the violation of Article 36 of VCCR by Pakistan makes it a fit case for the annulment of Jadhav's death sentence and also for the court to ask Islamabad to release him immediately. As India has argued, Pakistan violated Vienna Convention by failing to inform India immediately of his arrest, by not informing Jadhav of his rights and preventing him from contacting India’s consular post and also by denying Indian officials access to him despite repeated requests from Indian authorities for the same.
Both India and Pakistan are aware of the fact that the ICJ is unlikely to give any lopsided verdict. Just as India called for Jadhav’s trial in a civil court in case the ICJ wasn’t able to secure his release, Islamabad said that the review and reconsideration mechanism was available with the Pakistan high court in case the ICJ found it guilty of having violated VCCR. Pakistan is well aware of its position that the 2008 bilateral agreement on consular access overrides VCCR is unlikely to pass muster with ICJ.
While the Court is likely to find that Pakistan violated international law by denying India access to Jadhav, Geneva-based international lawyer and first Indian law-clerk at the ICJ Shashank P Kumar says the more interesting issue will be that of the relief that the Court would be willing to provide for such a violation. This will determine if India gets the relief it seeks for Jadhav or if its `victory’ is purely symbolic.
"In past cases of this kind — all of which involved trials and convictions under the US criminal justice system — the Court has usually provided relief by ordering a 'review and reconsideration' of the conviction through judicial means. In the Jadhav Case, however, India has argued that Pakistani courts are biased and therefore not in a position to effectively undertake a 'review and reconsideration' of his conviction, and that therefore the court should order his release,’’ says Kumar.
"It is important to remember however that the ICJ is not a criminal court of appeal. It will therefore be interesting to see if and how the Court moulds the relief of 'review and reconsideration' of the conviction by domestic courts — a relief that is usually granted in cases involving US criminal courts — to the peculiarities of Pakistan’s military court system under which he was tried and convicted," he adds.
As other Indian experts have stated, any Pakistani court is unlikely to remain immune to pressure from not just Pakistan authorities but also the public which is convinced Jadhav was an Indian agent out to create havoc in Pakistan.
However, even if the ICJ is reluctant to question the domestic judicial process of a sovereign nation, as Kumar says, it would be difficult for the court to compare the independence of Pakistan military courts with that of US criminal courts.
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https://twitter.com/betterpakistan/stat ... 4140057600
Rana Sanaullah....before the judge at ANC.
"I dare you to take IKs blood test, and if you dont find traces of coccaine, Heroin and Ice , there, sent me to jail, without trail"
Rana Sanaullah....before the judge at ANC.
"I dare you to take IKs blood test, and if you dont find traces of coccaine, Heroin and Ice , there, sent me to jail, without trail"
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
https://www.icj-cij.org/files/case-rela ... -00-EN.pdf
The International Court of Justice, The Hague will deliver its judgement today, 17 july 2019 at 0300 pm ( IST 1830 hours) in the case of Kulbhushan Jadhav
link for live stream
http://www.icj-cij.org/en/multimedia-index
I Hope he is reunited with his family
The International Court of Justice, The Hague will deliver its judgement today, 17 july 2019 at 0300 pm ( IST 1830 hours) in the case of Kulbhushan Jadhav
link for live stream
http://www.icj-cij.org/en/multimedia-index
I Hope he is reunited with his family
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Knowing the Porkis, not going to happen.
How binding are ICJ judgments?
According to ICJ, judgments delivered by the court (or by one of its chambers) in disputes between states are binding upon the parties concerned. Article 94 of the United Nations Charter provides that “each Member of the United Nations undertakes to comply with the decision of [the court] in any case to which it is a party”. Judgments are final and without appeal.
If there is a dispute about the meaning or scope of a judgment, the only possibility is for one of the parties to make a request to the court for an interpretation. In the event of the discovery of a fact hitherto unknown to the court which might be a decisive factor, either party may apply for revision of the judgment.
However, there have been instances when the ICJ’s rulings have not been followed. The most famous one was in 1986, when the ICJ ruled in a petition by Nicaragua, which alleged that the US had waged a covert war against it by supporting a rebellion.
The ICJ ordered reparations from the US in favour of Nicaragua. The US, in response, cancelled its declaration of the ICJ’s jurisdiction. It then went to the UN Security Council against the ICJ order and succeeded.
So, whatever the ICJ decides, both governments will have to be prepared for a long haul.
How binding are ICJ judgments?
According to ICJ, judgments delivered by the court (or by one of its chambers) in disputes between states are binding upon the parties concerned. Article 94 of the United Nations Charter provides that “each Member of the United Nations undertakes to comply with the decision of [the court] in any case to which it is a party”. Judgments are final and without appeal.
If there is a dispute about the meaning or scope of a judgment, the only possibility is for one of the parties to make a request to the court for an interpretation. In the event of the discovery of a fact hitherto unknown to the court which might be a decisive factor, either party may apply for revision of the judgment.
However, there have been instances when the ICJ’s rulings have not been followed. The most famous one was in 1986, when the ICJ ruled in a petition by Nicaragua, which alleged that the US had waged a covert war against it by supporting a rebellion.
The ICJ ordered reparations from the US in favour of Nicaragua. The US, in response, cancelled its declaration of the ICJ’s jurisdiction. It then went to the UN Security Council against the ICJ order and succeeded.
So, whatever the ICJ decides, both governments will have to be prepared for a long haul.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Porkistan celebrating victory in adavance. 
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is likely to reject India’s plea to release Kulbushan Jadhav, an Indian spy who was arrested in 2016 and sentenced to death by a Pakistani military court for carrying out acts of terror in Balochistan and Karachi.
The judgment of the ICJ in Jadhav’s case will be read in open court today at 6pm PST at the Peace Place in The Hague.
Pakistan’s legal team, headed by Attorney General for Pakistan Anwar Mansoor Khan reached Netherlands yesterday.
According to Barrister Taimur Malik, an international law expert, the ICJ is extremely unlikely to award the relief of “acquittal, release and return” of Jadhav as requested by India and relief, if any, is likely to be limited to grant of consular access.
Such an outcome will be considered a victory by Pakistan and it could also be seen as a sign of confidence in Pakistan’s judicial system as Jadhav’s fate would then be decided by courts here.
In the unlikely event that ICJ decides differently and orders measures in excess of consular access, this would not only be unprecedented but could also face criticism by large parts of the international legal community as unwarranted judicial activism by the international
court.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is likely to reject India’s plea to release Kulbushan Jadhav, an Indian spy who was arrested in 2016 and sentenced to death by a Pakistani military court for carrying out acts of terror in Balochistan and Karachi.
The judgment of the ICJ in Jadhav’s case will be read in open court today at 6pm PST at the Peace Place in The Hague.
Pakistan’s legal team, headed by Attorney General for Pakistan Anwar Mansoor Khan reached Netherlands yesterday.
According to Barrister Taimur Malik, an international law expert, the ICJ is extremely unlikely to award the relief of “acquittal, release and return” of Jadhav as requested by India and relief, if any, is likely to be limited to grant of consular access.
Such an outcome will be considered a victory by Pakistan and it could also be seen as a sign of confidence in Pakistan’s judicial system as Jadhav’s fate would then be decided by courts here.
In the unlikely event that ICJ decides differently and orders measures in excess of consular access, this would not only be unprecedented but could also face criticism by large parts of the international legal community as unwarranted judicial activism by the international
court.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
ICJ rules in India's Favour. says Kulbhushan Jadhav's death sentence should be reviewed
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 255297.cms
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 255297.cms
The Court has, however, rejected remedies sought by India, including annulment of military court decision convicting Jadhav, his release and safe passage to India
ICJ judgment: Court finds that Pakistan deprived India of the right to communicate with and have access to Kulbhushan Jadhav, to visit him in detention and to arrange for his legal representation, and thereby breached obligations incumbent upon it under Vienna Convention on Consular Relations
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Vips, best indicator of that is the skim through some TSP RAPE's twitter line. Like for e.g., Mosharaff Jihiadi Zaidi with shudh American accent and darling of Indian media. He boats that "India gained nothing of substance" except "moral victory" meaning TSP will flush that verdict down the toilet.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
We need to kidnap a Paki general from the gulf or someplace and declare him a spy and give the same treatment. Kidnapping a person from Iran. These low lives
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Pakistan media: RAW has abducted ISI man to avenge Kulbhushan Jadhav.
Already done. Not a general but for good measure it was a porki ISI officer who was part of a team involved in kidnapping Kulbushan Jadhav from Iran.
Already done. Not a general but for good measure it was a porki ISI officer who was part of a team involved in kidnapping Kulbushan Jadhav from Iran.
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Hafiz Saeed arrested by Punjab CTD, sent on judicial remand in terrorism financing case -Waseem Riaz
Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed was on Wednesday arrested in connection with a terrorism financing case while on his way from Lahore to Gujranwala, officials of the Punjab Counter-Terrorism Department confirmed.
According to a spokesperson for CTD Punjab, Saeed was sent to prison on judicial remand after the counter-terrorism department presented him before a Gujranwala anti-terrorism court (ATC).
The CTD has been directed to complete its investigation and submit a charge sheet to the court in the stipulated time.
Earlier, according to CTD sources, Saeed was arrested by CTD Punjab in the Gujranwala jurisdiction while he was on his way to an ATC in Gujranwala to seek bail.
A JuD spokesperson also confirmed the arrest to Reuters.
On July 3, the top 13 leaders of the banned JuD, including Saeed and Naib Emir Abdul Rehman Makki, were booked in nearly two dozen cases for terror financing and money laundering under the Anti-Terrorism Act, 1997.
The CTD, which registered the cases in five cities of Punjab, declared that the JuD was financing terrorism from the massive funds collected through non-profit organisations and trusts, including Al-Anfaal Trust, Dawatul Irshad Trust, Muaz Bin Jabal Trust, etc.
These non-profit organisations were banned in April as the CTD during detailed investigations found that they had links with the JuD and its top leadership, accused of financing terrorism by building huge assets/properties from the collected funds in Pakistan.
On Monday, a Lahore High Court division bench sought replies from the Ministry of Interior, Punjab home department and CTD on a petition filed by JuD chief Saeed and his seven aides challenging an FIR carrying a charge of terror financing.
Advocate A.K. Dogar represented the petitioners and contended that the facts narrated in the impugned FIR registered on July 1, 2019 illegally described them as members of LeT and levelled unlawful allegations of terror financing.
The counsel referred to a 2009 judgement by an LHC full bench against the then detention of Hafiz Saeed and stated that the petitioners were not members of LeT.
He said the LHC through another judgement issued in 2003 had also held that Hafiz Saeed left the leadership of LeT on Dec 24, 2001 while the organisation was banned on Jan 14, 2002.
The lawyer pleaded that the claim of the government that the petitioners were members of LeT stood disapproved in light of the two judgements.
Therefore, he asked the court to quash the impugned FIR lodged by the CTD for being unlawful and of no legal effect.
A government law officer opposed the petition and stated that it was not maintainable at this stage of the case.
However, the bench comprising Justice Shehram Sarwar Chaudhry and Justice Waheed Khan directed the law officer to furnish written replies on behalf of the respondents by July 30.
The other petitioners are Mohammad Ayub Sheikh, Zafar Iqbal, Syed Luqman Ali Shah, Hafiz Abdul Rehman Makki, Abdul Salam, Abdul Ghaffar and Abdul Qudoos Shahid.
Also on Monday, an ATC in Lahore had granted pre-arrest bail to the JuD chief and three others in a case pertaining to the outfit's alleged illegal use of land for its seminary, against surety bonds of Rs50,000 each.
In February, Paris-based Financial Action Task Force (FATF) had warned Pakistan to deliver on its commitments to curb terror financing and money laundering.
Risks to the global financial system have virtually put the country’s entire machinery into an aggressive mode to show tangible progress within two months of the warning.
While the meetings were taking place, the government had announced a ban on JuD and Falah-e-Insanyat Foundation to partially address the concerns raised by India that Pakistan supported these and six similar organisations, including Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) or at least considered them low-risk entities.
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Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed was on Wednesday arrested in connection with a terrorism financing case while on his way from Lahore to Gujranwala, officials of the Punjab Counter-Terrorism Department confirmed.
According to a spokesperson for CTD Punjab, Saeed was sent to prison on judicial remand after the counter-terrorism department presented him before a Gujranwala anti-terrorism court (ATC).
The CTD has been directed to complete its investigation and submit a charge sheet to the court in the stipulated time.
Earlier, according to CTD sources, Saeed was arrested by CTD Punjab in the Gujranwala jurisdiction while he was on his way to an ATC in Gujranwala to seek bail.
A JuD spokesperson also confirmed the arrest to Reuters.
On July 3, the top 13 leaders of the banned JuD, including Saeed and Naib Emir Abdul Rehman Makki, were booked in nearly two dozen cases for terror financing and money laundering under the Anti-Terrorism Act, 1997.
The CTD, which registered the cases in five cities of Punjab, declared that the JuD was financing terrorism from the massive funds collected through non-profit organisations and trusts, including Al-Anfaal Trust, Dawatul Irshad Trust, Muaz Bin Jabal Trust, etc.
These non-profit organisations were banned in April as the CTD during detailed investigations found that they had links with the JuD and its top leadership, accused of financing terrorism by building huge assets/properties from the collected funds in Pakistan.
On Monday, a Lahore High Court division bench sought replies from the Ministry of Interior, Punjab home department and CTD on a petition filed by JuD chief Saeed and his seven aides challenging an FIR carrying a charge of terror financing.
Advocate A.K. Dogar represented the petitioners and contended that the facts narrated in the impugned FIR registered on July 1, 2019 illegally described them as members of LeT and levelled unlawful allegations of terror financing.
The counsel referred to a 2009 judgement by an LHC full bench against the then detention of Hafiz Saeed and stated that the petitioners were not members of LeT.
He said the LHC through another judgement issued in 2003 had also held that Hafiz Saeed left the leadership of LeT on Dec 24, 2001 while the organisation was banned on Jan 14, 2002.
The lawyer pleaded that the claim of the government that the petitioners were members of LeT stood disapproved in light of the two judgements.
Therefore, he asked the court to quash the impugned FIR lodged by the CTD for being unlawful and of no legal effect.
A government law officer opposed the petition and stated that it was not maintainable at this stage of the case.
However, the bench comprising Justice Shehram Sarwar Chaudhry and Justice Waheed Khan directed the law officer to furnish written replies on behalf of the respondents by July 30.
The other petitioners are Mohammad Ayub Sheikh, Zafar Iqbal, Syed Luqman Ali Shah, Hafiz Abdul Rehman Makki, Abdul Salam, Abdul Ghaffar and Abdul Qudoos Shahid.
Also on Monday, an ATC in Lahore had granted pre-arrest bail to the JuD chief and three others in a case pertaining to the outfit's alleged illegal use of land for its seminary, against surety bonds of Rs50,000 each.
In February, Paris-based Financial Action Task Force (FATF) had warned Pakistan to deliver on its commitments to curb terror financing and money laundering.
Risks to the global financial system have virtually put the country’s entire machinery into an aggressive mode to show tangible progress within two months of the warning.
While the meetings were taking place, the government had announced a ban on JuD and Falah-e-Insanyat Foundation to partially address the concerns raised by India that Pakistan supported these and six similar organisations, including Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) or at least considered them low-risk entities.
Cheers
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
India aims to expel all illegal migrants, interior minister says
India will identify and deport illegal immigrants from across the country, the Indian interior minister said on Wednesday, stepping up a campaign that critics say could stoke religious tension and further alienate minority Muslims.
An exercise to identify alien immigrants from Muslim-majority Bangladesh has been going on in the northeastern state of Assam for years, but Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist-led government has taken it up in earnest.
The campaign was a key issue in this year's general election, won by Narendra Modi's Hindu-nationalist party.
Indian Home Minister Amit Shah told parliament the government would not limit its efforts to Assam, but would come down hard on illegal immigrants anywhere.
“Illegal immigrants living on every inch of this country will be deported according to the law,” Shah told the upper house of parliament.
Shah, seen as a Hindu nationalist hardliner and a possible future replacement for Modi in the top job, called illegal migrants “termites” eating into Assam's resources during the election campaign.
Critics accuse Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) of a deep-seated bias against minority Muslims and say the campaign against illegal migrants is aimed at Muslims, and threatens to further marginalise the community. The BJP denies the accusation and says it is opposed to the appeasement of any group.
While reinforcing measures against migrants slipping into the country, the government is trying to bring in a law that would simplify the process of getting Indian citizenship for immigrants from religious minorities persecuted in neighbouring Muslim countries, including Pakistan.
People in Assam are scrambling to prove their citizenship as part of an exercise to prepare a Supreme Court-ordered registry of citizens in the state. The list is due to be released on July 31.
A draft of the list released in July last year identified four million of the state's roughly 31 million people as illegal residents, including many Hindus.
But rights groups have warned that many residents, largely poor Muslims, are at risk of becoming stateless under the process. Other states in the northeast have launched similar exercises to identify people without Indian citizenship.
Mizoram state passed legislation in March to create separate registers for “residents” and “non-residents”, and the neighbouring state of Nagaland is working on a similar register.
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India will identify and deport illegal immigrants from across the country, the Indian interior minister said on Wednesday, stepping up a campaign that critics say could stoke religious tension and further alienate minority Muslims.
An exercise to identify alien immigrants from Muslim-majority Bangladesh has been going on in the northeastern state of Assam for years, but Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist-led government has taken it up in earnest.
The campaign was a key issue in this year's general election, won by Narendra Modi's Hindu-nationalist party.
Indian Home Minister Amit Shah told parliament the government would not limit its efforts to Assam, but would come down hard on illegal immigrants anywhere.
“Illegal immigrants living on every inch of this country will be deported according to the law,” Shah told the upper house of parliament.
Shah, seen as a Hindu nationalist hardliner and a possible future replacement for Modi in the top job, called illegal migrants “termites” eating into Assam's resources during the election campaign.
Critics accuse Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) of a deep-seated bias against minority Muslims and say the campaign against illegal migrants is aimed at Muslims, and threatens to further marginalise the community. The BJP denies the accusation and says it is opposed to the appeasement of any group.
While reinforcing measures against migrants slipping into the country, the government is trying to bring in a law that would simplify the process of getting Indian citizenship for immigrants from religious minorities persecuted in neighbouring Muslim countries, including Pakistan.
People in Assam are scrambling to prove their citizenship as part of an exercise to prepare a Supreme Court-ordered registry of citizens in the state. The list is due to be released on July 31.
A draft of the list released in July last year identified four million of the state's roughly 31 million people as illegal residents, including many Hindus.
But rights groups have warned that many residents, largely poor Muslims, are at risk of becoming stateless under the process. Other states in the northeast have launched similar exercises to identify people without Indian citizenship.
Mizoram state passed legislation in March to create separate registers for “residents” and “non-residents”, and the neighbouring state of Nagaland is working on a similar register.
Cheers
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
A Pakistan which doesn't even accept bodies of its dead soldiers for fear of exposure, which is willing to mercilessly send hundreds of its soldiers on suicidal missions knowing fully well the end result as it happened at Kargil to the NLI, which lost more than half its land and population for the sake of 'racial superiority', which regularly massacres its own citizens using air force and artillery, where 'jihad fi sabilillah' is the motto of the Armed Forces, would not normally be bothered by the life of a single ISI officer, unless that person is an extremely 'high catch'. Of course, the ISI-officer has now given us details about the operation of kidnapping Jadhav from Iran. But, still, the ISI terrorist is not high enough to warrant a change in Pakistani approach.Vips wrote:Pakistan media: RAW has abducted ISI man to avenge Kulbhushan Jadhav.
Already done. Not a general but for good measure it was a porki ISI officer who was part of a team involved in kidnapping Kulbushan Jadhav from Iran.
The Terroristani Army is peeved. Very much so because of the contempt with which NDA has been treating them. Massive LoC & IB firing, merciless elimination of terrorists and their supporters in J&K, no talks, naming & shaming in international fora, effective FATF grey-listing. All these bit into their arrogance, swagger and their 'Milbus'. Kidnapping of Jadhav was a 'tactical brilliance' that is, as usual, turning out to be a strategic stupidity. One can be pretty sure that the Jadhav case also played its part in strengthening GoI's determination to deal ruthlessly with Pakistan after Uri and Pulwama.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
In Pukistan------another Ex Pm Shahid abbasi and his finance minister miftah ismail has been arrested by Accountability Bureau. On LNG import cases.
Charsi Imran has gone crazy!
Charsi Imran has gone crazy!
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
menon s Ji :menon s wrote:In Pukistan------another Ex Pm Shahid abbasi and his finance minister miftah ismail has been arrested by Accountability Bureau. On LNG import cases. Charsi Imran has gone crazy!
I am sure you will appreciate that George Bernard Shaw said Politics is the Last Resort of a scoundrel. If he was alive today and visited Terroristan he might agree that for Terroristani Army selected Prime Ministers politics is often the first refuge for the scoundrel, thief and idler.
Cheers
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
They were about to remove Sadiq Sinjrani, the senate chairman, and Abbasi was the one leading that move! IK put a spanner in thw works by arresting the former PM>
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
I am sure the other ex pm's Raja (Rental power scam) Ashraf and Yousuf Raza (Sheri Rehman boob squeeze) Gilani must be in process or planning to escape from Porkistan.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/opin ... istan.html
Imran Khan’s ‘New Pakistan’ Is as Good as the Old
The country looks like a struggling dictatorship.
By Mohammed Hanif, July 17, 2019
KARACHI, Pakistan — Imran Khan campaigned to become prime minister on the promise that he would create a “new Pakistan.” The country was going to be like the state of Medina that the Prophet Muhammad founded — a welfare state — Khan promised. Less than a year after coming to power, he has delivered a new Pakistan, and it looks like a struggling dictatorship.
Major opposition leaders are in jail; others aren’t allowed in the media. Parliamentarians are arrested on terrorism or drug-trafficking charges and denied bail. In this new Pakistan, the economy has been practically handed over to appointees from the International Monetary Fund. The price of bread is soaring, and bazaars where the poor do business with the poor are being demolished while barons of the stock exchange get government handouts. Khan once talked about “dignity” and how you lose it when you take money from foreign powers. But what was one of his first moves after taking office? Chauffeuring Arab princes in the hope of getting soft loans. He has said that he would prefer death to going to the I.M.F., but soon after becoming prime minister he went into a huddle with the I.M.F. chief and after protracted negotiations secured a loan of $6 billion.
During election campaigns, politicians usually make promises that they have no intention and no way of keeping. Here is one promise that Khan is trying to keep: To punish corrupt politicians and force them to pay back the money they have stolen — the billions, he says, that have been stashed in Swiss banks. By now, though, it’s quite obvious that even if there is looted money in foreign banks, there is no way of bringing it back. Former President Asif Ali Zardari, who is in jail on money-laundering charges, was asked if he was willing to strike a deal with the government. “I will not give them six dollars,” he smirked. Since the corrupt aren’t going to cough up their loot, Khan has had to go back to the mundane business of borrowing money and collecting taxes. But his passionate appeals that more Pakistanis pay their taxes don’t seem to be working. The tax-to-gross domestic product ratio is the lowest in five years, the tax authorities said recently. Maybe that’s because the people have seen too many of their leaders not pay what they owe. Although Khan’s assets were estimated at 3.8 billion rupees (about $36 million) in 2017, he pays fewer taxes than many mid-ranking journalists.
Khan used to claim that he is the best team-builder around. He has surrounded himself with the same political carpetbaggers he once railed against. More than half of his cabinet served the last military dictator, Pervez Musharraf. Of the man who now runs the railways ministry, Khan once said that he wouldn’t hire him as a peon; another person he called a bandit has become a crucial ally, as the speaker of the assembly in Punjab Province.
When he lectures on economic matters, Khan can sound like the Queen of England — as though he has never had to carry cash or set a monthly budget like middle-class citizens do. Like many affluent people who spend their lives in a bubble of financial security, he has been propagating Ayn Rand-esque myths about how to fix the economy. He has been saying that the one percent of Pakistanis who do pay taxes can’t carry the burden of the other 99 percent. Yet the 99 percent who don’t fill out returns definitely are funding the lifestyles of rich Pakistanis through indirect taxes, like those on gasoline and electricity. And yet they hardly get to see the inside of a hospital or the schools built with those taxes.
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Gautam
PS Mohammed Hanif is the author of the novel A Case of Exploding Mangoes.
Imran Khan’s ‘New Pakistan’ Is as Good as the Old
The country looks like a struggling dictatorship.
By Mohammed Hanif, July 17, 2019
KARACHI, Pakistan — Imran Khan campaigned to become prime minister on the promise that he would create a “new Pakistan.” The country was going to be like the state of Medina that the Prophet Muhammad founded — a welfare state — Khan promised. Less than a year after coming to power, he has delivered a new Pakistan, and it looks like a struggling dictatorship.
Major opposition leaders are in jail; others aren’t allowed in the media. Parliamentarians are arrested on terrorism or drug-trafficking charges and denied bail. In this new Pakistan, the economy has been practically handed over to appointees from the International Monetary Fund. The price of bread is soaring, and bazaars where the poor do business with the poor are being demolished while barons of the stock exchange get government handouts. Khan once talked about “dignity” and how you lose it when you take money from foreign powers. But what was one of his first moves after taking office? Chauffeuring Arab princes in the hope of getting soft loans. He has said that he would prefer death to going to the I.M.F., but soon after becoming prime minister he went into a huddle with the I.M.F. chief and after protracted negotiations secured a loan of $6 billion.
During election campaigns, politicians usually make promises that they have no intention and no way of keeping. Here is one promise that Khan is trying to keep: To punish corrupt politicians and force them to pay back the money they have stolen — the billions, he says, that have been stashed in Swiss banks. By now, though, it’s quite obvious that even if there is looted money in foreign banks, there is no way of bringing it back. Former President Asif Ali Zardari, who is in jail on money-laundering charges, was asked if he was willing to strike a deal with the government. “I will not give them six dollars,” he smirked. Since the corrupt aren’t going to cough up their loot, Khan has had to go back to the mundane business of borrowing money and collecting taxes. But his passionate appeals that more Pakistanis pay their taxes don’t seem to be working. The tax-to-gross domestic product ratio is the lowest in five years, the tax authorities said recently. Maybe that’s because the people have seen too many of their leaders not pay what they owe. Although Khan’s assets were estimated at 3.8 billion rupees (about $36 million) in 2017, he pays fewer taxes than many mid-ranking journalists.
Khan used to claim that he is the best team-builder around. He has surrounded himself with the same political carpetbaggers he once railed against. More than half of his cabinet served the last military dictator, Pervez Musharraf. Of the man who now runs the railways ministry, Khan once said that he wouldn’t hire him as a peon; another person he called a bandit has become a crucial ally, as the speaker of the assembly in Punjab Province.
When he lectures on economic matters, Khan can sound like the Queen of England — as though he has never had to carry cash or set a monthly budget like middle-class citizens do. Like many affluent people who spend their lives in a bubble of financial security, he has been propagating Ayn Rand-esque myths about how to fix the economy. He has been saying that the one percent of Pakistanis who do pay taxes can’t carry the burden of the other 99 percent. Yet the 99 percent who don’t fill out returns definitely are funding the lifestyles of rich Pakistanis through indirect taxes, like those on gasoline and electricity. And yet they hardly get to see the inside of a hospital or the schools built with those taxes.
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Gautam
PS Mohammed Hanif is the author of the novel A Case of Exploding Mangoes.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Nice article, now they will find drugs in his bags.
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Mian Tariq ‘spills the beans’ on blackmail network - Shakeel Anjum
MULTAN: Mian Tariq, one of the central characters in the video scandal involving former accountability court judge Arshad Malik, has made stunning disclosures during interrogation about his blackmailing network, particularly about how he was operating with the resident editor of a newspaper to extort money from members of judiciary as well as government officials.
Tariq was arrested on Wednesday by the Federal Investigation Agency’s (FIA) Cyber Crime Wing on an FIR filed on Malik’s complaint and remanded in custody by a court.
He told interrogators that he had a collection of personal and unethical videos of judges and government officials. The people affiliated with the resident editor would make phone calls to the judges and government officials the group intended to blackmail using the videos. They would threaten to publish the material against them in the newspaper if they did not meet their demands. Through these tactics, Tariq and other members of the group would receive illegal favours and millions of rupees from the judges and government officials.
Tariq had blackmailed Judge Malik on more than one occasion using the latter’s unethical videos and extorted large sums of money from him.
He told interrogators that he and the resident editor had forced Malik to sign agreements with them on stamp papers for the payment of money.
Videogate : Judge Arshad Malik calls for ‘criminal proceedings against Mian Tariq, others’
The investigation so far has revealed that Mian Tariq sold Judge Malik’s video for Rs110 million and a V8 jeep. However, Tariq’s son Faisal has told interrogators that the video was sold for Rs70 million and a jeep.
According to sources, the FIA has seized a USB from Faisal that contains the videos of Malik and others being blackmailed by the group. Besides, it has also seized a V8 jeep that was handed over to Tariq as part of video scandal deal.
The sources said Tariq and the resident editor had called Judge Malik to the office of the newspaper and threatened to make his videos public if he did not pay them. The judge then went on to submit his affidavit to the law ministry because he could no longer put up with the blackmailing.
Raid
The FIA raided the residence of Nasir Butt, another central character in the video scandal, in Rawalpindi Dhok Ratta – locally known as Haji House — and seized two “important” documents.
Butt, as claimed by the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) itself, is a “loyal supporter of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif”.
Butt left for London prior to the PML-N revealing the video in which Judge Malik is seen telling him that he was coerced into ruling against Nawaz.
His younger brother, Hafiz Abdullah Butt, was also not present at the residence at the time of the raid.
Sources in the FIA Cyber Crime Wing told The Express Tribune that the raid was conducted in the wee hours of Thursday.
The FIA has been unable to contact Butt on his phone numbers in Pakistan and the UK. The sources said his residence will remain under monitoring.
Butt was also booked along with Tariq on Malik’s complaint.
Cheers
MULTAN: Mian Tariq, one of the central characters in the video scandal involving former accountability court judge Arshad Malik, has made stunning disclosures during interrogation about his blackmailing network, particularly about how he was operating with the resident editor of a newspaper to extort money from members of judiciary as well as government officials.
Tariq was arrested on Wednesday by the Federal Investigation Agency’s (FIA) Cyber Crime Wing on an FIR filed on Malik’s complaint and remanded in custody by a court.
He told interrogators that he had a collection of personal and unethical videos of judges and government officials. The people affiliated with the resident editor would make phone calls to the judges and government officials the group intended to blackmail using the videos. They would threaten to publish the material against them in the newspaper if they did not meet their demands. Through these tactics, Tariq and other members of the group would receive illegal favours and millions of rupees from the judges and government officials.
Tariq had blackmailed Judge Malik on more than one occasion using the latter’s unethical videos and extorted large sums of money from him.
He told interrogators that he and the resident editor had forced Malik to sign agreements with them on stamp papers for the payment of money.
Videogate : Judge Arshad Malik calls for ‘criminal proceedings against Mian Tariq, others’
The investigation so far has revealed that Mian Tariq sold Judge Malik’s video for Rs110 million and a V8 jeep. However, Tariq’s son Faisal has told interrogators that the video was sold for Rs70 million and a jeep.
According to sources, the FIA has seized a USB from Faisal that contains the videos of Malik and others being blackmailed by the group. Besides, it has also seized a V8 jeep that was handed over to Tariq as part of video scandal deal.
The sources said Tariq and the resident editor had called Judge Malik to the office of the newspaper and threatened to make his videos public if he did not pay them. The judge then went on to submit his affidavit to the law ministry because he could no longer put up with the blackmailing.
Raid
The FIA raided the residence of Nasir Butt, another central character in the video scandal, in Rawalpindi Dhok Ratta – locally known as Haji House — and seized two “important” documents.
Butt, as claimed by the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) itself, is a “loyal supporter of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif”.
Butt left for London prior to the PML-N revealing the video in which Judge Malik is seen telling him that he was coerced into ruling against Nawaz.
His younger brother, Hafiz Abdullah Butt, was also not present at the residence at the time of the raid.
Sources in the FIA Cyber Crime Wing told The Express Tribune that the raid was conducted in the wee hours of Thursday.
The FIA has been unable to contact Butt on his phone numbers in Pakistan and the UK. The sources said his residence will remain under monitoring.
Butt was also booked along with Tariq on Malik’s complaint.
Cheers
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Finding a new strategic direction - Rustam Shah Mohmand
The Pakistani narrative appears to have reached a dead end. For too long, the country has been led to believe that helping Kashmiris to secure their right of self-determination is a cause for which every conceivable price must be paid; that Pakistan remains incomplete without Kashmir and that Kashmir is an unfinished agenda of the Partition, etc.
However, for how long did Islamabad pursue the goal of seeking strategic depth in Afghanistan? Promoting groups, factions and leaders who were thought to be more aligned with our ‘core’ interests was a policy relentlessly implemented.
The domestic scene was characterised by politicians advancing their petty partisan or personal goals. Betrayal, incompetence, jingoism, swapping party affiliations remained the order of the day as democracy took a back seat. In a sign of the decline of institutions as many as four military interventions were seen between the late fifties and nineties—not surprisingly all four were validated by the judiciary.
Institutionalised system of accountability —one of the strongest pillars of any system of good governance was badly missing from the Pakistani discourse. Accountability, when it happened, was used as tool for harassment of political rivals rather than as an instrument to safeguard and promote the cause of good governance.
Rulers in Islamabad continued to ignore the voices emanating from Balochistan for more autonomy. That led to the estrangement of Baloch nationalists. This sentiment for autonomy was handled with little prudence and caution. The use of force was the preferred option. That led to widespread discontent.
In the perpetual tug of war for advancement of vested interests, the core sectors of the economy were overlooked or received scant attention. Imagine an agrarian economy ignoring the vital sector of agriculture as far as crucial segments like soil conservation, prevention of water wastage, modernised irrigation system, saving farmland, reducing pollution, better drainage systems, provision of better seeds, fertilisers and introduction of more income yielding crops, etc.
Not only that there was much less emphasis on human resource development and its key component, that is, provision of quality education. There was hardly any incentive or stress on research in the fields of science and technology, medicine, agriculture or engineering. The rulers, civilian or military, were either busy with more ‘’important ‘’ activities or simply failed to comprehend the relevance or need for such ‘mundane’ goals.
The goal of acquisition of nuclear weapons was laudable given Pakistan’s vulnerability in a conventional war with its arch-rival that is five times stronger. Possession of nuclear weapons made the country safe and provided deterrence against miscalculation by any country. Added to the arsenal were tactical nuclear weapons as further deterrence against a limited military engagement with a rival many times more powerful.
But the acquisition of nuclear weapons should have been used as a powerful and potent force for peace making. It should have given Pakistan a breathing space in which to lay down the foundation for sustainable peace with India, speaking from a position of near-invincibility. Instead this important milestone was used as brandishing sword to confront a neighbour. In the garb of that, militant outfits in Kashmir were supported and encouraged to carry on their struggle for liberation.
Peace with India has relevance in the sector of climate change that poses a grave danger to the economies of the two countries, besides affecting the health of the population. Both India and Pakistan are exposed to multiple hazards like avalanches, earthquakes, glacial lake outburst floods in the Himalayas in the north, droughts and floods in the plains and cyclones that originate in the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea. Both India and Pakistan are severely water-stressed countries. The two neighbours need to confront the menace by combining strategies and actions on a permanent basis.
The Himalayan ecosystem sustains 1.5 billion people and this system is in danger. Further indifference to the gravity of the situation would spell disaster for the two countries. It is only through collective endeavours that the fragile ecosystem can be saved — by coordinating strategies on climate change hazards, by conserving water, controlling seepage, reducing pollution, saving farmland, afforestation, exchange of data, joint research projects undertaken to study the potential hazards caused by environmental and other factors.
Posterity will not forgive the leaders, media and scientists for not highlighting the quantum of the risks and for failing to coordinate efforts to confront the looming catastrophe by undertaking joint efforts in a bid to save the future for one-fifth of humanity.
On Afghanistan, Islamabad must confront the ground realities. We must come out of such fantasies as restricting the role of India. It backfires and causes more harm to relations with Kabul besides generating more hatred against Pakistan, in the people of that country. It is shocking we don’t see the implications of our lopsided policies. Trade between Afghanistan and Pakistan has plummeted to just 400 million dollars from a high of three billion dollars! The border fencing is a naïve and unwarranted project that would not help in dealing with terrorists but would gravely impact political, cultural and trade relations between the two countries.
Choosing favourites and sponsoring factions has been the bane of Pakistan’s policy in relation to Afghanistan. This, to an extent, has been realised late in the day. But there is need to formulate a new vision that would serve both short-and long-term interests of Pakistan considering that Afghanistan is a bridgehead to relations with Central Asia.
One belt One Road (OBOR) is an opportunity of a lifetime. For CPEC to succeed, peace and stability in Afghanistan is an indispensable ingredient. Rulers in Islamabad must realise that stability will not be guaranteed by bilateral visits or pronouncements of brotherly ties but by dealing with the insurgency .In dealing with the insurgency the ground realities must not be overlooked.
For its expanding population and shrinking resources, Pakistan has to undertake a fundamental reappraisal of its policies on a whole range of issues—relating to environment, climate change hazards, productivity, trade, benefiting from hydrocarbon resources of Central Asia, Afghanistan coordinating strategies with India to harness the river systems and save water, normalise ties with India to unleash resources to lift people out of poverty, focus on human resource development, improving health care systems as well as crafting more realistic policies on a range of issues aforementioned here.
That will happen if the rulers show foresight and shun petty partisan quarrels and stop vandalising, humiliating opponents. Dealing with crimes should be left to the institutions. Rulers should learn to think of the huge potential for socio-economic emancipation of the teeming millions of impoverished Pakistanis if climate change is controlled, if the development priorities are reset on sound lines, if relations with neighbours are improved and attention is focused on human resources development as a key to socio-economic transformation.
Cheers
The Pakistani narrative appears to have reached a dead end. For too long, the country has been led to believe that helping Kashmiris to secure their right of self-determination is a cause for which every conceivable price must be paid; that Pakistan remains incomplete without Kashmir and that Kashmir is an unfinished agenda of the Partition, etc.
However, for how long did Islamabad pursue the goal of seeking strategic depth in Afghanistan? Promoting groups, factions and leaders who were thought to be more aligned with our ‘core’ interests was a policy relentlessly implemented.
The domestic scene was characterised by politicians advancing their petty partisan or personal goals. Betrayal, incompetence, jingoism, swapping party affiliations remained the order of the day as democracy took a back seat. In a sign of the decline of institutions as many as four military interventions were seen between the late fifties and nineties—not surprisingly all four were validated by the judiciary.
Institutionalised system of accountability —one of the strongest pillars of any system of good governance was badly missing from the Pakistani discourse. Accountability, when it happened, was used as tool for harassment of political rivals rather than as an instrument to safeguard and promote the cause of good governance.
Rulers in Islamabad continued to ignore the voices emanating from Balochistan for more autonomy. That led to the estrangement of Baloch nationalists. This sentiment for autonomy was handled with little prudence and caution. The use of force was the preferred option. That led to widespread discontent.
In the perpetual tug of war for advancement of vested interests, the core sectors of the economy were overlooked or received scant attention. Imagine an agrarian economy ignoring the vital sector of agriculture as far as crucial segments like soil conservation, prevention of water wastage, modernised irrigation system, saving farmland, reducing pollution, better drainage systems, provision of better seeds, fertilisers and introduction of more income yielding crops, etc.
Not only that there was much less emphasis on human resource development and its key component, that is, provision of quality education. There was hardly any incentive or stress on research in the fields of science and technology, medicine, agriculture or engineering. The rulers, civilian or military, were either busy with more ‘’important ‘’ activities or simply failed to comprehend the relevance or need for such ‘mundane’ goals.
The goal of acquisition of nuclear weapons was laudable given Pakistan’s vulnerability in a conventional war with its arch-rival that is five times stronger. Possession of nuclear weapons made the country safe and provided deterrence against miscalculation by any country. Added to the arsenal were tactical nuclear weapons as further deterrence against a limited military engagement with a rival many times more powerful.
But the acquisition of nuclear weapons should have been used as a powerful and potent force for peace making. It should have given Pakistan a breathing space in which to lay down the foundation for sustainable peace with India, speaking from a position of near-invincibility. Instead this important milestone was used as brandishing sword to confront a neighbour. In the garb of that, militant outfits in Kashmir were supported and encouraged to carry on their struggle for liberation.
Peace with India has relevance in the sector of climate change that poses a grave danger to the economies of the two countries, besides affecting the health of the population. Both India and Pakistan are exposed to multiple hazards like avalanches, earthquakes, glacial lake outburst floods in the Himalayas in the north, droughts and floods in the plains and cyclones that originate in the Bay of Bengal and the Arabian Sea. Both India and Pakistan are severely water-stressed countries. The two neighbours need to confront the menace by combining strategies and actions on a permanent basis.
The Himalayan ecosystem sustains 1.5 billion people and this system is in danger. Further indifference to the gravity of the situation would spell disaster for the two countries. It is only through collective endeavours that the fragile ecosystem can be saved — by coordinating strategies on climate change hazards, by conserving water, controlling seepage, reducing pollution, saving farmland, afforestation, exchange of data, joint research projects undertaken to study the potential hazards caused by environmental and other factors.
Posterity will not forgive the leaders, media and scientists for not highlighting the quantum of the risks and for failing to coordinate efforts to confront the looming catastrophe by undertaking joint efforts in a bid to save the future for one-fifth of humanity.
On Afghanistan, Islamabad must confront the ground realities. We must come out of such fantasies as restricting the role of India. It backfires and causes more harm to relations with Kabul besides generating more hatred against Pakistan, in the people of that country. It is shocking we don’t see the implications of our lopsided policies. Trade between Afghanistan and Pakistan has plummeted to just 400 million dollars from a high of three billion dollars! The border fencing is a naïve and unwarranted project that would not help in dealing with terrorists but would gravely impact political, cultural and trade relations between the two countries.
Choosing favourites and sponsoring factions has been the bane of Pakistan’s policy in relation to Afghanistan. This, to an extent, has been realised late in the day. But there is need to formulate a new vision that would serve both short-and long-term interests of Pakistan considering that Afghanistan is a bridgehead to relations with Central Asia.
One belt One Road (OBOR) is an opportunity of a lifetime. For CPEC to succeed, peace and stability in Afghanistan is an indispensable ingredient. Rulers in Islamabad must realise that stability will not be guaranteed by bilateral visits or pronouncements of brotherly ties but by dealing with the insurgency .In dealing with the insurgency the ground realities must not be overlooked.
For its expanding population and shrinking resources, Pakistan has to undertake a fundamental reappraisal of its policies on a whole range of issues—relating to environment, climate change hazards, productivity, trade, benefiting from hydrocarbon resources of Central Asia, Afghanistan coordinating strategies with India to harness the river systems and save water, normalise ties with India to unleash resources to lift people out of poverty, focus on human resource development, improving health care systems as well as crafting more realistic policies on a range of issues aforementioned here.
That will happen if the rulers show foresight and shun petty partisan quarrels and stop vandalising, humiliating opponents. Dealing with crimes should be left to the institutions. Rulers should learn to think of the huge potential for socio-economic emancipation of the teeming millions of impoverished Pakistanis if climate change is controlled, if the development priorities are reset on sound lines, if relations with neighbours are improved and attention is focused on human resources development as a key to socio-economic transformation.
Cheers
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Sorry if already posted, but this from Harish Salve is worth watching. Brilliant lawyer and a job well done.
>>> ICJ verdict on Kulbhushan Jadhav: Harish Salve Addresses Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKoDPqx3P6M
>>> ICJ verdict on Kulbhushan Jadhav: Harish Salve Addresses Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKoDPqx3P6M
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Quite a sane analysis. But then, . . .Peregrine wrote:Finding a new strategic direction - Rustam Shah Mohmand
The Pakistani narrative appears to have reached a dead end. . . .
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Previous arrests of Hafiz Saeed made no difference: U.S. - PTI
The Trump Administration on Friday expressed doubts over Pakistan’s intentions in arresting terrorist Hafiz Muhammed Saeed, the mastermind of the 2001 Indian Parliament attack and the 2008 Mumbai attack, saying his previous arrests made no difference either to his activities or that of his outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba.
“We’ve seen this happen in the past. And we have been looking for sustained and concrete steps, not just window dressing,” a senior administration official told reporters Friday, ahead of Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan’s visit to the U.S. next week.
Saeed, a UN-designated terrorist was arrested on Wednesday — the seventh time since December 2001, when he was nabbed in the immediate aftermath of the terrorist attack on the Indian Parliament.
“Let me reassure you, we are clear eyed about the history here. We’re under no illusions about the support that we could see from Pakistan’s military intelligence services to these groups. So we will look for concrete action,” the official said when asked about the actions that Pakistan has taken against terrorist group and if the US believes in them.
“I noticed that Pakistan has taken some initial steps such as pledging to seize assets of some of these terrorist groups. And, of course, they put under arrest yesterday Hafiz Muhammed Saeed, the leader of Lashkar-e-Taiba which is responsible for the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attacks,” said the official requesting anonymity.
But the official quickly noted that this was the seventh time that Saeed was arrested since 2001 attack on India’s Parliament when he was detained right after that attack and was subsequently released.
“That is why we are very clear eyed and realistic when you see him arrested” as he has been arrested and released in the past. “So we would look to see that Pakistan take sustained action in actually prosecuting these people,” the official said.
'We are monitoring situation'
“Quite frankly, the previous arrest of Hafiz Muhammed Saeed hasn’t made a difference and the LeT has been has been able to operate. So we’re monitoring the situation,” said the senior administration official as reporters asked questions on the links between Pakistani intelligence services and terrorist groups.
The U.S. “remains concerned” about terrorist groups that continue to operate in Pakistan, such as Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and Haqqani network. “We do have concerns about link between these groups and Pakistan intelligence services in military. That’s no secret,” the official said.
The U.S., the official said, welcomes Prime Minister Khan’s pledge that Pakistan will not allow its soil to be used by militant groups and its vocal leadership and the Trump Administration is pressing for a new direction in this regard.
According to the official, the U.S. has seen some initial steps with Pakistan pledging to seize the assets of some of these terrorist leaders, pledged to reform the madrasa and has taken under administrative control some of the facilities owned by these groups.
Prime Minister Imran Khan himself had said that Pakistan cannot reach its full potential unless it has peace and stability in the region.
Of course, peace and stability in the region would require it to crack down on the terrorist and militant groups that are creating the instability, the official said.
Pakistan really needs to prove that this time they are something different, he said.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Kamran Yousaf
@Kamran_Yousaf
5h
How Saudi Crown Prince MBS used his personal contacts with Jared Kushner to arrange Trump-Imran summit.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2017343/1- ... -us-visit/
@Kamran_Yousaf
5h
How Saudi Crown Prince MBS used his personal contacts with Jared Kushner to arrange Trump-Imran summit.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2017343/1- ... -us-visit/
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
The main objective of Im the Dims visit to meet Trump, is to reschedule or rollover foreign loans, from IMF and world Bank.
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Pakistan hires lobbying firm in US capital
WASHINGTON: The Pakistani embassy in Washington has hired the services of a leading lobbying firm, Holland & Knight, to ensure effective representation of Islamabad’s interests in the United States.
CheersA contract was signed by embassy representatives and Tom Reynolds, a former Republican congressman from New York who represented the top lobbying firm.
Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Why paradigm shift in Pakistan’s politics? - Dr Moonis Ahmar
CheersAccording to a political survey conducted by Gallup Pakistan, after completing 10 months in government, Imran Khan’s popularity has fallen following the passage of the annual budget. His rating fell from 58% in April 2019 to 48% in July — a significant drop of 10% in two months. However, the survey stated that despite its downward popularity because of the IMF programme and sharp escalation in prices of essential commodities, the PTI has maintained its edge as the single-largest political party.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
habal wrote:Kamran Yousaf
@Kamran_Yousaf
5h
How Saudi Crown Prince MBS used his personal contacts with Jared Kushner to arrange Trump-Imran summit.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2017343/1- ... -us-visit/
Michael Kugelman Verified account @MichaelKugelman 22h22 hours ago
Interesting: According to this report, MBS helped arrange Imran Khan's visit to the US by making an appeal to Jared Kushner. The Saudi crown prince "used his ‘good offices’ to convince Trump through his son-in-law for a meeting with the prime minister."
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
Fawad Rehman Verified account @fawadrehman
No US official were present to receive PM @ImranKhanPTI at IAD airport. Neither IK recieved any state protocol.
watch video
https://twitter.com/fawadrehman/status/ ... 4923606019
their glum faces say it all.
probably had to take a taxi back to some fleabag hotel.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
https://www.news18.com/news/world/in-ma ... 39695.html
In Major Snub, No Big Welcome for Imran Khan in US, Received by His Own Foreign Minister Instead
The cricketer-turned-politician arrived aboard a commercial Qatar Airways flight and is staying at the official residence of the Pakistani Ambassador to the US, Asad Majeed Khan.
News18.comUpdated:July 21, 2019.
New Delhi: In a major embarrassment for Imran Khan, the Pakistan prime minister received no official welcome of the kind reserved for foreign heads of states when he landed in the United States on Saturday. Khan was accompanied by foreign secretary Sohail Mahmood and commerce advisor Abdul Razzak. He was welcomed at the airport by his foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi and a large number of Pakistani Americans. The highest-ranking US official present at the airport was reportedly a protocol officer.
Khan is on his maiden trip to the US during which he will hold talks with Donald Trump and reboot bilateral ties that were hit after the US president publicly criticised Islamabad, cancelled military aid and asked it to do more to fight terrorism.
Khan, 66, is scheduled to meet President Trump at the White House on Monday during which the American leadership is likely to press him to take "decisive and irreversible" actions against terrorist and militant groups operating from Pakistani soil and facilitate peace talks with the Taliban.
The cricketer-turned-politician arrived aboard a commercial Qatar Airways flight and is staying at the official residence of the Pakistani Ambassador to the US, Asad Majeed Khan. Nawaz Sharif was the last Pakistani prime minister to visit the US on an official trip in October 2015.
During his three-day visit, Khan, in addition to his meeting with Trump, is also scheduled to meet IMF acting chief David Lipton and World Bank President David Malpass. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will call on him on Tuesday.
Trump, in addition to a one-on-one meeting in the Oval Office, will host the visiting delegation over a working lunch at the White House on Monday. Khan is also scheduled to meet lawmakers at the US Capitol Hill. The relations between Pakistan and the US have remained tense during Trump's tenure. The US president has publicly said that Pakistan has given us "nothing but lies and deceit" and also suspended security and other assistance for backing terror groups.
Diplomatic sources in Islamabad earlier said that issues like the Afghan peace process, Pakistan government's action against terrorism and terror financing and restoration of military aid to Pakistan would be the highlights of the trip.
Khan's visit comes at a time when talks between the US and Afghan Taliban are thought to have entered a decisive phase.
.....
Gautam
PS Dim's family jewels will now be squeezed by DT.
In Major Snub, No Big Welcome for Imran Khan in US, Received by His Own Foreign Minister Instead
The cricketer-turned-politician arrived aboard a commercial Qatar Airways flight and is staying at the official residence of the Pakistani Ambassador to the US, Asad Majeed Khan.
News18.comUpdated:July 21, 2019.
New Delhi: In a major embarrassment for Imran Khan, the Pakistan prime minister received no official welcome of the kind reserved for foreign heads of states when he landed in the United States on Saturday. Khan was accompanied by foreign secretary Sohail Mahmood and commerce advisor Abdul Razzak. He was welcomed at the airport by his foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi and a large number of Pakistani Americans. The highest-ranking US official present at the airport was reportedly a protocol officer.
Khan is on his maiden trip to the US during which he will hold talks with Donald Trump and reboot bilateral ties that were hit after the US president publicly criticised Islamabad, cancelled military aid and asked it to do more to fight terrorism.
Khan, 66, is scheduled to meet President Trump at the White House on Monday during which the American leadership is likely to press him to take "decisive and irreversible" actions against terrorist and militant groups operating from Pakistani soil and facilitate peace talks with the Taliban.
The cricketer-turned-politician arrived aboard a commercial Qatar Airways flight and is staying at the official residence of the Pakistani Ambassador to the US, Asad Majeed Khan. Nawaz Sharif was the last Pakistani prime minister to visit the US on an official trip in October 2015.
During his three-day visit, Khan, in addition to his meeting with Trump, is also scheduled to meet IMF acting chief David Lipton and World Bank President David Malpass. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will call on him on Tuesday.
Trump, in addition to a one-on-one meeting in the Oval Office, will host the visiting delegation over a working lunch at the White House on Monday. Khan is also scheduled to meet lawmakers at the US Capitol Hill. The relations between Pakistan and the US have remained tense during Trump's tenure. The US president has publicly said that Pakistan has given us "nothing but lies and deceit" and also suspended security and other assistance for backing terror groups.
Diplomatic sources in Islamabad earlier said that issues like the Afghan peace process, Pakistan government's action against terrorism and terror financing and restoration of military aid to Pakistan would be the highlights of the trip.
Khan's visit comes at a time when talks between the US and Afghan Taliban are thought to have entered a decisive phase.
.....
Gautam
PS Dim's family jewels will now be squeezed by DT.
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
But where is the real PM of Pakistan (the COAS)? Did he get better protocol from the US military?
Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019
It's a working visit and not an official visit. So not sure where the question of an official reception or a snub arises. Instead of premature gloating, we need to be very wary of this visit and especially whether Orange falls for the superfluous flattery from Dim and Pajwa.