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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby rsingh » 23 Sep 2019 19:55

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OMG......Imran conspiring to sell Bakistan to Jews. Lahore via Quvait.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Anujan » 23 Sep 2019 21:21

Apparently in CFR Dimran was asked "Why does Mattis think Pakistan is a radicalized society"

Dimran gave a befitting reply, strongly starting with "Nixon invited telebunnies as freedom phyters and got Al Bakistan involved....", and ended with "And thats why Pakistan trained Al Qaeda" :rotfl:

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Postby pankajs » 23 Sep 2019 21:34

Anujan wrote:Apparently in CFR Dimran was asked "Why does Mattis think Pakistan is a radicalized society"

Dimran gave a befitting reply, strongly starting with "Nixon invited telebunnies as freedom phyters and got Al Bakistan involved....", and ended with "And thats why Pakistan trained Al Qaeda" :rotfl:

Ola to Uber .. Dimran has truly delivered for the TSPA today. He will probably be awarded the nishan-e-lamp-post for this.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby ArjunPandit » 23 Sep 2019 21:53

^^he didnt forget to mention the reagan statment that they are like founding fathers of america...who supplies imran?? or is he actually an indian agint?

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 23 Sep 2019 23:27

https://www.firstpost.com/world/collaps ... 89381.html
Collapse of US-Taliban talks an awkward blow for Pakistan, dashes hopes for American support in Kashmir dispute
Agence France-Presse Sep 23, 2019
Helping the United States with its fervent wish to leave Afghanistan after nearly 18 years of war was widely seen as an opportunity for Pakistan to get back into Washington's good books after years of being accused of duplicity
Pakistan has for years called for a political solution in Afghanistan and had used its influence over the Taliban to help facilitate talks with the United States
The talks collapse comes at an especially delicate time in Pakistan, where frustrations are mounting just a year into Khan's rule with the economy under immense stressKabul and Washington have long accused Pakistan of sheltering and supporting the Taliban, an allegation it denies
Khan now faces the unsavoury task of weathering increased pressure from a White House more interested in Afghanistan than Kashmir
Islamabad: The collapse of US-Taliban talks is an untimely setback for Pakistan, which had hoped its efforts to bring the militants to the table would be rewarded with an economic boost and American support in its dispute with India over Kashmir.
Prime Minister Imran Khan has promised to issue a rallying cry at the UN General Assembly in New York next week over India's moves in the disputed Himalayan region. But Pakistan, long condemned for its support for militant groups, needs political capital if it is to sway a global community that has been historically reluctant to challenge New Delhi over Kashmir. Helping the United States with its fervent wish to leave Afghanistan after nearly 18 years of war was widely seen as an opportunity to get back into Washington's good books after years of being accused of duplicity.
For a brief moment in July, it appeared to be working. President Donald Trump delighted Khan in Washington by declaring his willingness to mediate on Kashmir, over which India and Pakistan have fought two wars and countless skirmishes since the end of British colonial rule in 1947.
New Delhi repeated its position that Kashmir is a purely bilateral issue with Islamabad and dismissed the possibility of foreign mediation, but still, Pakistan's star once again appeared on the rise in Washington.
The relief was short-lived.
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Atmavik » 24 Sep 2019 00:20

Anujan wrote:Apparently in CFR Dimran was asked "Why does Mattis think Pakistan is a radicalized society"

Dimran gave a befitting reply, strongly starting with "Nixon invited telebunnies as freedom phyters and got Al Bakistan involved....", and ended with "And thats why Pakistan trained Al Qaeda" :rotfl:


here is the video clip

https://twitter.com/mazdaki/status/1176186967408697345

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby khan » 24 Sep 2019 01:11

Vips wrote:Pakistan will require 3 votes to avoid the black list which they have - China, Malaysia and Turkey.

India should think about importing $1 billion in palm oil next year.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby pankajs » 24 Sep 2019 03:47

Watched the first 10 minutes .. Full RR.


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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Sumeet » 24 Sep 2019 04:23

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/statu ... 1909082112

The moment when a Pakistani Journalist goes into a rhetoric mode on Kashmir, Trump asks Imran Khan: ‘Where do you get reporters like these?’ Then asks the reporter: ‘Are you from his (Imran) team? You are making a statement, not asking a question’. Pak Channel stops broadcast.


Please click on the link and see the video. Smile disappeared from Imran's face and you must watch the clip to see his face.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby SSridhar » 24 Sep 2019 08:05

Anujan wrote:Apparently in CFR Dimran was asked "Why does Mattis think Pakistan is a radicalized society"

Dimran gave a befitting reply, strongly starting with "Nixon invited telebunnies as freedom phyters and got Al Bakistan involved....", and ended with "And thats why Pakistan trained Al Qaeda"


OMG. Remarkable. Truth uncannily surfaces and Pakistan is a living proof. Just recently, it surfaced in the F16 issue and soon now and that too from the highest authority - ok, the second highest after Bajwa - of the cursed land.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Pathik » 24 Sep 2019 08:08

ArjunPandit wrote:^^he didnt forget to mention the reagan statment that they are like founding fathers of america...who supplies imran?? or is he actually an indian agint?

lol..or prolly a Hilal-e-Imtiaz, whatever that means :D

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby vimal » 24 Sep 2019 08:25

Pak army preparing for halwa-e-hind

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Anujan » 24 Sep 2019 09:55

SSridhar wrote:
Anujan wrote:Apparently in CFR Dimran was asked "Why does Mattis think Pakistan is a radicalized society"

Dimran gave a befitting reply, strongly starting with "Nixon invited telebunnies as freedom phyters and got Al Bakistan involved....", and ended with "And thats why Pakistan trained Al Qaeda"


OMG. Remarkable. Truth uncannily surfaces and Pakistan is a living proof. Just recently, it surfaced in the F16 issue and soon now and that too from the highest authority - ok, the second highest after Bajwa - of the cursed land.


https://mobile.twitter.com/GFarooqi/sta ... 2642676736

A subsequent exchange is :shock:

Dimran admits he doesn't know what's in the abbotabad report
Dimran claims army was not fully behind the decision to go after terrorists
Dimran claims army had several insider attacks by army
Dimran said ISI chief and army jernail were innocent because CIA was eavesdropping on them
Dimran says Osama had only the support of low level ISI agents

All within two minutes of opening his mouth :rotfl: :shock:

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Gautam_2 » 24 Sep 2019 10:28

I was watching baki news yesterday and some minister got really frustrated with the incessant needling. Ended up blurting out that October-November will see a lot of unrest in Punjab(Khalistan proxy). Hope agencies nip this in the bud.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby nam » 24 Sep 2019 13:21

pankajs wrote:Watched the first 10 minutes .. Full RR


it is fun to watch them discussing achieving the impossible. Go round and round.

Around 42, the man in the right points finger at ISI and the sentence after that is completely muted :rotfl:

And this lot talk about human rights.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby SSridhar » 24 Sep 2019 14:57

Anujan wrote:All within two minutes of opening his mouth

OMG, this guy is a goldmine. We must keep him from out of harm's way lest a car's hatch falls on him as he waves to crowds and kills him, as it did to Benazir !! RAW must extend 24X7 comprehensive protection all the while he is encouraged to talk more and more !! He will blurt out everything, I am sure. Waiting for his UN Speech now. Mash'a Alla'h.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby abhijitm » 24 Sep 2019 15:41

SSridhar wrote:
Anujan wrote:All within two minutes of opening his mouth

OMG, this guy is a goldmine. We must keep him from out of harm's way lest a car's hatch falls on him as he waves to crowds and kills him, as it did to Benazir !! RAW must extend 24X7 comprehensive protection all the while he is encouraged to talk more and more !! He will blurt out everything, I am sure. Waiting for his UN Speech now. Mash'a Alla'h.

What I see that is a calculated strategy by paki elites to accept what happened but deflect the blame to lower/rogue ranks while protecting "innocent ignorant elites of pak army and politicians". They are playing 'non state actor' strategy all over again. Need to debunk immediately and effectively.

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Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Peregrine » 24 Sep 2019 16:04

PM Imran Khan admits Pakistani armyand ISI trained al-Qaida - Times of India

HIGHLIGHTS

- This is the first time that any Pakistani leader has directly and specifically confirmed the Pakistan military and intelligence agency trained alQaida

- “There were always links between Pakistan and … there had to be links … because they trained them,” Khan said at a meeting at the Center for Foreign Relations in New York City on Monday


WASHINGTON: Pakistan’s Prime Minister Imran Khan has made the explosive disclosure that the Pakistani army and ISI trained al-Qaida and other terrorist groups to fight in Afghanistan. Imran is the Terroristani Army’s Numero Uno Master Flautist i.e. he is Number One Master Flute Player of the Terroristan Army!

Although it has long been known that the Pakistani military trained the so-called mujaheddin that fought Soviet troops in Afghanistan under CIA tutelage, it is the first time that any Pakistani leader has directly and specifically confirmed the Pakistan military and intelligence agency trained al -Qaida — which is largely a post-Soviet withdrawal entity — and continued to maintain links with the group.

Al-Qaida was founded in 1988 by Osama bin Laden even as Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan. Specifically, al-Qaida was formed in Peshawar, Pakistan on August 11, 1988. Soviet troops started to leave Afghanistan on May 15, 1988 and the withdrawal continued till February 2, 1989. Khan said the Pakistani military continued to have links with them even though the US too quit the scene.

“There were always links between Pakistan and …there had to be links … because they trained them,” Khan said at a meeting at the Center for Foreign Relations in New York City on Monday when asked about whether Pakistan had gotten to the bottom of how Osama bin Laden had ended up in a Pakistani military cantonment.

Khan also said when Pakistan did a 180 degree turn against the terrorists after 9/11 and went after them, not everyone in the Pakistan military agreed with it, resulting in insider attacks against General Musharraf. Any contacts with Osama bin Laden at the time he was killed by US Navy Seals in Abbottabad would have been at lower levels, Khan surmised.

Khan’s startling move implicating the Pakistani military in New York, where he is on a Mission Kashmir” aimed at portraying India as the aggressor, embarrassed some of his countrymen, one of whom ad-libbed the country Army chief as saying, “damn, he’s an even more dangerous duffer than we are.”

Pakistan has tried for years to terror tag India by building up files and dossiers alleging New Delhi’s role in purported terrorist acts in Balochistan, but the country’s jihad mill has continued to produce terrorist graduates, one of whom, son of an Air Vice Marshal, tried to bomb Times Square, a few blocks from where Khan was speaking. Other terrorists trained or indoctrinated in Pakistan have carried out attacks from Manhattan to Mumbai.

Still, President Trump gave Pakistan cover on Monday when he was asked at a press conference with Imran Khan if agreed with Prime Minister Modi’s assessment that Pakistan is the hub of terrorism. “Well, I really have been pointing much more to Iran. I mean, Iran if you look at what, that's been really the state of terror, ”Trump said, much to the relief of Pakistan, where not only did the key principals of 9/11 (Osama bin Laden and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed) live, but some of the 19 hijackers who slammed the weaponised planes into World Trade Center also went inand out of.

Helpfully for Trump, US and rest of the international community, Imran Khan has confirmed that the Pakistani military trained al-Qaida.

In Video : PM Imran Khan admits Pakistani army and ISI trained alQaida

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby SSridhar » 24 Sep 2019 16:26

abhijitm wrote:What I see that is a calculated strategy by paki elites to accept what happened but deflect the blame to lower/rogue ranks while protecting "innocent ignorant elites of pak army and politicians". They are playing 'non state actor' strategy all over again. Need to debunk immediately and effectively.

abhijitm, totally agree with you that we have to debunk these theories of IK because they are simply falsehood.

As I see, there are two possibilities here:
  1. As you say, it may be to deflect the blame on lower ranks, make them scapegoats and let the upper echelon escape. This would then be a well-coordinated lying whose time will come for exposure sooner or later.
  2. This could also be IK is blurting out due to various reasons such as inexperience, high/low on coke, urge to take a moral high pedestal etc.

If it is 1, this is unlikely to succeed because the Terroristanis have so far been denying involving themselves with Al Qaeda - Taliban, yes but not AQ. So, that mask is blown off now and their own lying all along stands exposed. On earlier occasions too, they were in a nutcracker, but they flatly denied any wrongdoing; didn't attempt to divide their own ranks like what IK is doing now. Secondly, even if lower-level ranks were involved, those ranks could not have been privates, but very high level officers and there must have been a large network of such officers. IK cannot pull the wool over our eyes by claiming 'lower level ranks'. Sepoys or Havaldars don't do such things. The world is not going to believe that the ISI Chief or the PA Core Commanders or MI were not aware of what was going on. The unmasking by their own PM makes it all the more difficult to have a plausible deniability by the top Commanders of their own involvement with AQ & OBL. Thirdly, IK claims he didn't read the report, if so from where did he get all this information? Obviously, a Prime Minister cannot claim it is hearsay or that he/she read these from newspapers, can he/she ? If the PA trained AQ, how far did it go? Did ISI plan the various terror attacks, Kenya/Tanzania, 9/11, or the many aborted/failed terrorist acts in between ? Questions will be asked now.

If it is 2, we await further developments when he returns unless Providence intervenes on his behalf. The interventions of Providence in the affairs of Terroristan have so far been rather cruel and there is no reason to believe it would be any different now.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby ArunK » 24 Sep 2019 16:36

abhijitm wrote:...
Need to debunk immediately and effectively.


Why? This shows that they have no control over the lower ranks. They are digging their own grave. Who in their right minds will trust them?

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby rsingh » 24 Sep 2019 16:44

Immy is India's best friend. Now I believe something is going to happen in Oct.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Bart S » 24 Sep 2019 16:57

SSridhar wrote:If it is 1, this is unlikely to succeed because the Terroristanis have so far been denying involving themselves with Al Qaeda - Taliban, yes but not AQ. So, that mask is blown off now and their own lying all along stands exposed. On earlier occasions too, they were in a nutcracker, but they flatly denied any wrongdoing; didn't attempt to divide their own ranks like what IK is doing now. Secondly, even if lower-level ranks were involved, those ranks could not have been privates, but very high level officers and there must have been a large network of such officers. IK cannot pull the wool over our eyes by claiming 'lower level ranks'. Sepoys or Havaldars don't do such things. The world is not going to believe that the ISI Chief or the PA Core Commanders or MI were not aware of what was going on. The unmasking by their own PM makes it all the more difficult to have a plausible deniability by the top Commanders of their own involvement with AQ & OBL. Thirdly, IK claims he didn't read the report, if so from where did he get all this information? Obviously, a Prime Minister cannot claim it is hearsay or that he/she read these from newspapers, can he/she ? If the PA trained AQ, how far did it go? Did ISI plan the various terror attacks, Kenya/Tanzania, 9/11, or the many aborted/failed terrorist acts in between ? Questions will be asked now.


One of the main USPs of Pakistan for the 'Four Fathers' is that their army were pliable rentboys/mercenaries for hire whenever needed. But that depends on the military leadership being able to control the lower layers. If they are openly admitting that they have not control, then they lose that utility to others that they have leveraged to the hilt in the past. Intentionally doing it will be shooting themselves in the foot.

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Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Peregrine » 24 Sep 2019 18:03

Modi made aggressive remarks, was well-received by 50,000, says Trump with Imran Khan beside

US President Donald Trump said PM Modi made some aggressive statements at the Howdy Modi event and they were well received by the 50,000 people. Pakistan PM Imran Khan was seated beside him when he made these observations.

HIGHLIGHTS

- With Imran Khan seated beside him, Trump said PM Modi made some aggressive remarks

- Trump also said that PM Modi's remarks at Howdy Modi were well received by 50,000 people

- Imran Khan once again sought help from Trump to resolve the Kashmir matter


With Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan sitting beside him, US President Donald Trump praised PM Narendra Modi and the gala event of 'Howdy, Modi' that he addressed along with the PM.

Addressing the media after meeting Imran Khan, Trump praised the 'Howdy, Modi' mega rally in presence of Khan and said PM Modi made "very aggressive statements" at the Houston event and the huge crowd of Indian-Americans received them well.

"It was very well received within the room," Trump said, referring to the gathering of 50,000 people at the NRG Stadium in Houston.

Hours after addressing the joint rally with PM Modi in Houston, Trump met Imran Khan on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly session in New York.

Talking of mediating to solve the Kashmir dispute, Trump has once again said that if both India and Pakistan are willing, he would be ready to help.

Trump said he was ready to mediate between Pakistan and India on the Kashmir issue if both sides agree and described himself as "an extremely good arbitrator".

While Trump has time and again offered to mediate in the Kashmir matter, India has maintained that Kashmir was a bilateral matter between India and Pakistan with no scope for third party mediation.

However, Imran Khan once again appealed to Trump seeking help in Pakistan's troubles with India, Afghanistan and Iran.

To this, Trump cracked a joke and said, "He lives in a very friendly neighbourhood."

"The most powerful country in the world has a responsibility," Khan said alongside Trump, warning that the "crisis (in Kashmir) is going to get much bigger."

"I have very good relationship with Prime Minister Modi. I have very good relationship with Prime Minister Khan...I would be an extremely good arbitrator. I have never failed as an arbitrator," Trump told reporters, avoiding to directly answer a question on Kashmir.

With Trump by his side at the 'Howdy, Modi' event, Modi hit out at Pakistan for its support to terrorism and said India's decision to nullify Article 370 has caused trouble to those who cannot handle their country as he called for a "decisive battle" against terrorism.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby SSridhar » 24 Sep 2019 20:40

rsingh wrote:Now I believe something is going to happen in Oct.

:rotfl:

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby saip » 24 Sep 2019 20:59

19 dead, more than 300 injured as 5.8-magnitude quake rocks northern Pakistan
Looks like it happened a week earlier. Allah has his own designs and waits for no man
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Parasu » 24 Sep 2019 21:00

Trump said that he could not meet too many leaders in 3 days but he is meeting Dimran.
Trump knows he is doing Al Bakistan a favour.
Last time, he was not ready to meet Im the Dim but only agreed after intense lobbying.

He trashed the Pakistani press. Understood that they were planted to ask specific questions.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby KLNMurthy » 24 Sep 2019 21:10

ArunK wrote:
abhijitm wrote:...
Need to debunk immediately and effectively.


Why? This shows that they have no control over the lower ranks. They are digging their own grave. Who in their right minds will trust them?

Because all of this blame-shifting is deflection and distraction. Its main audience is the Indian left-liberal crowd which is influential and powerful. That crowd needs some plausible shred of a narrative that Pakistan and Muslims are innocent targets of fascist Hindus. So the trick is to always be able to point to some non-state actor or jernail (Zia) or terror groups that were forced on them by America, or anything at all, except the truth: Pakistan as a whole is demonic.

"Who in their right mind will trust them if they don't have control over lower ranks" is a perfect example of the success of this propaganda strategy. It is like focusing on Charles Manson being an armed robber and saying, "see, he is a bad guy and everyone knows it. No one should trust him." It would be factual, but is armed robbery the main issue with Manson?

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Pakistan media on "Howdy Modi"


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Postby pankajs » 24 Sep 2019 21:34

Pakistani media on impact of "Howdy Modi".

Best part starts @ 7:40. "What is important is that it was taken up at UNSC after 50 years, what is important is that 15 articles where published by NYT, 15 in WSJ and about the same in WaPo and in the rest if the western media. Apart from that Human rights orgs, UNHRC. These things are important."

Wah! wah! What victory!

Rest is also very high quality, I mean given when smoking very high quality stuff. Worth watching!


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Postby pankajs » 24 Sep 2019 21:50

See, now Bakis are not willing to accept mediation from a biased US. Any such mediation must include other "neutral" parties like China or Turkey or may be Malaysia!

Take that you kuffars, Shiver in you dhoti. Victory for the mard-e-momin. jeeHard. <<Hawai firing>>


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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

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Pak Media on Howdy Modi


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Postby Vips » 24 Sep 2019 22:07

saip wrote:19 dead, more than 300 injured as 5.8-magnitude quake rocks northern Pakistan
Looks like it happened a week earlier. Allah has his own designs and waits for no man
Dawn


Porkis would have preferred hundreds or even thousands to die in this quake as they could have then got hundreds of millions of $ in free money but -just a 5.8 quake - Bahut na-insafi hai.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Vips » 24 Sep 2019 22:09

pankajs wrote:See, now Bakis are not willing to accept mediation from a biased US. Any such mediation must include other "neutral" parties like China or Turkey or may be Malaysia!

Take that you kuffars, Shiver in you dhoti. Victory for the mard-e-momin. jeeHard. <<Hawai firing>>



India would insist on Pakthoonistan, Sindhu Desh and Republic of Kalat (Baluchistan) to be members of such a mediation group :wink:

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Anujan » 24 Sep 2019 22:15

abhijitm wrote:
SSridhar wrote:OMG, this guy is a goldmine. We must keep him from out of harm's way lest a car's hatch falls on him as he waves to crowds and kills him, as it did to Benazir !! RAW must extend 24X7 comprehensive protection all the while he is encouraged to talk more and more !! He will blurt out everything, I am sure. Waiting for his UN Speech now. Mash'a Alla'h.

What I see that is a calculated strategy by paki elites to accept what happened but deflect the blame to lower/rogue ranks while protecting "innocent ignorant elites of pak army and politicians". They are playing 'non state actor' strategy all over again. Need to debunk immediately and effectively.


I do not think that is the case at all. We have to apply occam's razor to it, the simplest explanation is the most plausible explanation.

In international diplomacy, you do not change your positions or your narratives on a day to day basis. US never comes out and tells one day "Yes!! we did afghan jihad and everything we have now is blow back". Think tankers will say that. Nobody in their official position will say that.

Dimran has not thought through the implications of his statements:

He has admitted that Pakistan trained Al Qaeda. Not taliban, Al Qaeda. And claimed that there are contacts, there are continuing contacts and there is dissent within the army ranks to change the policy towards Al Qaeda. That is a violation of UN resolutions, weakens Pakistani position on FATF, completely buries their "moral, political, diplomatic support for legitimate phreedom phyters" narrative. They have actively trained, aided, abetted and had contacts with terror groups. You can make an argument that

It makes their TFTAs look like they lack discipline and are rogue. TFTAs never cared about people alleging that they did not listen to the civvies. In fact, they were proud of it. But make one small allegation that they do not listen to their Jernails and Aphsars and they come out bristling "ISI is a professional intelligence agency!!! Army is professional!!!". The moment someone even hints that the top jernail is in there for extensions, the mid level jernails are in there for DHA plots and the low level abduls are in there for Jihad and therefore their interests may or may not align, the TFTAs will push back will full force.

I expect a TFTA denial and a Dimran de-briefing when Dimran is back in Pakistan. The TFTAs are quiet now because the visit and UNGA yelling is still about to happen.

The simplest explanation is that Dimran thinks that he is smart. He isnt.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby abhijitm » 24 Sep 2019 22:17

SSridhar wrote:If it is 1, this is unlikely to succeed because the Terroristanis have so far been denying involving themselves with Al Qaeda - Taliban, yes but not AQ. So, that mask is blown off now and their own lying all along stands exposed. On earlier occasions too, they were in a nutcracker, but they flatly denied any wrongdoing; didn't attempt to divide their own ranks like what IK is doing now. Secondly, even if lower-level ranks were involved, those ranks could not have been privates, but very high level officers and there must have been a large network of such officers. IK cannot pull the wool over our eyes by claiming 'lower level ranks'. Sepoys or Havaldars don't do such things. The world is not going to believe that the ISI Chief or the PA Core Commanders or MI were not aware of what was going on. The unmasking by their own PM makes it all the more difficult to have a plausible deniability by the top Commanders of their own involvement with AQ & OBL. Thirdly, IK claims he didn't read the report, if so from where did he get all this information? Obviously, a Prime Minister cannot claim it is hearsay or that he/she read these from newspapers, can he/she ? If the PA trained AQ, how far did it go? Did ISI plan the various terror attacks, Kenya/Tanzania, 9/11, or the many aborted/failed terrorist acts in between ? Questions will be asked now.

They are trying to sell another lie to get away with earlier lie. And this lie of saying "there are rogue elements in our army and we don't have control over them" has multi level implications, not just in India but globally. This gives legitimacy of pak nuclear blackmail "hey, i don't want to start nuclear war but see how can i guarantee if i don't have full control over my ranks". We have called pak elites bluff in balakot. This narrative again creates nuclear uncertainty.

Today we have successfully demolished their earlier narrative of non-state actors. We have brought FATF blacklist at their doorstep. They are discredited because we successfully made the world to make pakis elite accountable. Recently Imran has been slowly pushing this narrative for some time now which allows paki elites get off the hook again if that narrative start getting traction internationally. I hope MEA will act swiftly.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby pankajs » 24 Sep 2019 22:33

Baki media on Howdy Modi. This is a good one.



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