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Postby chetak » 09 Nov 2019 00:18

saip wrote:Why is his green card valid only for TWO years? Is it because it is derived through his US Wife (he is not gay?) ? If he divorced her before GC became permanent then his GC would be kaput. So, does he still have GC?


it appears that he doesn't have a wife, he has a husband.

truly paki, in all the grotesque mental imaging that it evokes.

and hence the smart jihadi move to the US.

For this type of thing, he would surely have been bull cutletted by his disapproving fellow british paki jihadi brethren.

the usual end to such folks in jihadi justice terms is being politely and solicitously helped off the roof a nearby convenient high rise.

and, just because the pencil is "sharpened", it doesn't automatically mean that you have to dip it in poison and write some contrived jehadi crap which ends up focussing the light squarely on your sorry ass.

that should learn him good.
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Postby Peregrine » 09 Nov 2019 00:32

This is the Original Article from the Time Magazine - It is about Five Pages!

Can the World's Largest Democracy Endure Another Five Years of a Modi Government? BY AATISH TASEER MAY 9, 2019

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Postby Peregrine » 09 Nov 2019 03:00

I have posted at 08 Nov 2019 17:08 the following Article on the previous Page.

Present In Our Memory Games A self-identifying, dispiriting tour of Islam's extremities inlaid with personal history - KHUSHWANT SINGH13 APRIL 2009

Please Read the Article and note the last sentence of the Fourth Paragraph. :rotfl:

It is the reason for India not wanting to give Aatish Taseer an Indian Identity Document!

I am sure Aatish Taseer will appreciate the reason but I cannot pass on to him as I do not have his E-Mail.

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Postby Gerard » 09 Nov 2019 03:06

anishns wrote:Following is an article by the same Aatish Taseer during the scamgress days
Why My Father Hated India


Actually quite a good article. Excellent PsyOps value.

Ten days before he was assassinated in January, my father, Salman Taseer, sent out a tweet about an Indian rocket that had come down over the Bay of Bengal: "Why does India make fools of themselves messing in space technology? Stick 2 bollywood my advice."

My father was the governor of Punjab, Pakistan's largest province, and his tweet, with its taunt at India's misfortune, would have delighted his many thousands of followers. It fed straight into Pakistan's unhealthy obsession with India, the country from which it was carved in 1947.

Though my father's attitude went down well in Pakistan, it had caused considerable tension between us. I am half-Indian, raised in Delhi by my Indian mother: India is a country that I consider my own. When my father was killed by one of his own bodyguards for defending a Christian woman accused of blasphemy, we had not spoken for three years.

To understand the Pakistani obsession with India, to get a sense of its special edge—its hysteria—it is necessary to understand the rejection of India, its culture and past, that lies at the heart of the idea of Pakistan. This is not merely an academic question. Pakistan's animus toward India is the cause of both its unwillingness to fight Islamic extremism and its active complicity in undermining the aims of its ostensible ally, the United States.

The idea of Pakistan was first seriously formulated by neither a cleric nor a politician but by a poet. In 1930, Muhammad Iqbal, addressing the All-India Muslim league, made the case for a state in which India's Muslims would realize their "political and ethical essence." Though he was always vague about what the new state would be, he was quite clear about what it would not be: the old pluralistic society of India, with its composite culture.

Iqbal's vision took concrete shape in August 1947. Despite the partition of British India, it had seemed at first that there would be no transfer of populations. But violence erupted, and it quickly became clear that in the new homeland for India's Muslims, there would be no place for its non-Muslim communities. Pakistan and India came into being at the cost of a million lives and the largest migration in history.

This shared experience of carnage and loss is the foundation of the modern relationship between the two countries. In human terms, it meant that each of my parents, my father in Pakistan and my mother in India, grew up around symmetrically violent stories of uprooting and homelessness.

But in Pakistan, the partition had another, deeper meaning. It raised big questions, in cultural and civilizational terms, about what its separation from India would mean.

In the absence of a true national identity, Pakistan defined itself by its opposition to India. It turned its back on all that had been common between Muslims and non-Muslims in the era before partition. Everything came under suspicion, from dress to customs to festivals, marriage rituals and literature. The new country set itself the task of erasing its association with the subcontinent, an association that many came to view as a contamination.

Had this assertion of national identity meant the casting out of something alien or foreign in favor of an organic or homegrown identity, it might have had an empowering effect. What made it self-wounding, even nihilistic, was that Pakistan, by asserting a new Arabized Islamic identity, rejected its own local and regional culture. In trying to turn its back on its shared past with India, Pakistan turned its back on itself.

But there was one problem: India was just across the border, and it was still its composite, pluralistic self, a place where nearly as many Muslims lived as in Pakistan. It was a daily reminder of the past that Pakistan had tried to erase.

Pakistan's existential confusion made itself apparent in the political turmoil of the decades after partition. The state failed to perform a single legal transfer of power; coups were commonplace. And yet, in 1980, my father would still have felt that the partition had not been a mistake, for one critical reason: India, for all its democracy and pluralism, was an economic disaster.

Pakistan had better roads, better cars; Pakistani businesses were thriving; its citizens could take foreign currency abroad. Compared with starving, socialist India, they were on much surer ground. So what if India had democracy? It had brought nothing but drought and famine.

But in the early 1990s, a reversal began to occur in the fortunes of the two countries. The advantage that Pakistan had seemed to enjoy in the years after independence evaporated, as it became clear that the quest to rid itself of its Indian identity had come at a price: the emergence of a new and dangerous brand of Islam.

As India rose, thanks to economic liberalization, Pakistan withered. The country that had begun as a poet's utopia was reduced to ruin and insolvency.



The reversal in the fortunes of the two countries—India's sudden prosperity and cultural power, seen next to the calamity of Muhammad Iqbal's unrealized utopia—is what explains the bitterness of my father's tweet just days before he died. It captures the rage of being forced to reject a culture of which you feel effortlessly a part—a culture that Pakistanis, via Bollywood, experience daily in their homes.

This rage is what makes it impossible to reduce Pakistan's obsession with India to matters of security or a land dispute in Kashmir. It can heal only when the wounds of 1947 are healed. And it should provoke no triumphalism in India, for behind the bluster and the bravado, there is arid pain and sadness.

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Postby sanjaykumar » 09 Nov 2019 03:53

This rage is what makes it impossible to reduce Pakistan's obsession with India to matters of security or a land dispute in Kashmir. It can heal only when the wounds of 1947 are healed. And it should provoke no triumphalism in India, for behind the bluster and the bravado, there is arid pain and sadness.



And this is India's problem. Or it wouldn't be if Pakistanis can keep their jihadis exploding only at home.

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Postby Vips » 09 Nov 2019 05:23

Before this thread meets its end I thought Dimran would at least be out of the hot seat in Pukistan if not meeting his share of the 72 sex starved mullahs in Jannat.

Bushra bibi must be doing some crazy overshifts with the jernails and the chinese. :wink:

IB4TL onlee!!!!

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Postby Peregrine » 09 Nov 2019 05:24

Pakistan’s FATF blues not over yet - Shahabaz Rana

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan may remain on the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) grey list for a protracted period, as it may be handed over yet another action plan for implementation for one to three years on the basis of a recently-approved Mutual Evaluation Report (MER), said Federal Minister for Economic Affairs Hammad Azhar on Thursday.

The Asia Pacific Group — the FATF-styled regional body — had found serious deficiencies in Pakistan’s anti-money laundering measures and combating terror financing frameworks in its mutual evaluation report released a few weeks ago.

“As a result of the MER carried out by the Asia Pacific Group, Pakistan was under observation till October 2020,” said the minister.

He gave a briefing to the National Assembly Standing Committee on Finance and Revenue that met under the chair of former Finance Minister Asad Umar.

“If we do not fully implement the APG’s recommendations by October next year, a new action plan of one to three years can be given to Pakistan,” said the minister in his opening remarks.

In February last year, the FATF had decided to place Pakistan on the grey list with effect from June 2018. Pakistan had been given a 27-point ambitious action plan that required it to completely choke terror financing and monetary laundering, dismantle terrorists’ sanctuaries, and make banking and non-banking financial regulations more stringent.

The APG’s MER was separate from the FATF’s 27-point plan, which will keep the sword hanging on the country for at least next two to three years.

The FATF plenary met last month and gave Pakistan four more months to completely implement the 27-point Action Plan after Islamabad was found fully compliant only on five points.

“Pakistan needs to do more and it needs to do it faster. Pakistan’s failure to fulfil FATF’s global standards is an issue that we take very seriously,” FATF President Xiangmin Liu said while addressing a news conference in Paris last month.

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The FATF Plenary will again review Pakistan’s case in February next year.

To a question, Azhar said that it was not clear what will be the status of Pakistan from February 2020 to October 2020 when the FATF will take a decision on the basis of the MER.

Technically, Pakistan may not be on the grey list in the intervening period but the FATF plenary may also decide to delay the decision till October, he added.

Azhar said that unlike the FATF’s 27-point action plan, the MER-based plan will be easy to implement.

Last month, the APG had presented Pakistan’s mutual evaluation report at the FATF plenary meeting, which discussed in detail the country’s compliance with 40 recommendations of the FATF.

The mutual evaluation report found money laundering and terror financing as high-risk category areas in Pakistan.

The report showed that of 40 recommendations of the FATF on curbing money laundering and combating terror financing, Pakistan was fully compliant on one only. It was “largely compliant” on nine, “partially compliant” on 26 and “non-compliant” on four recommendations.

Due to these adverse findings, the APG placed Pakistan on its expedited enhanced follow-up reporting list.

The minister said that Pakistan would submit its initial report to the Joint Group of the FATF on December 2 and the final report will be shared on January 7.

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On the basis of the final report, the Joint Group will give its findings to the FATF that will take up Pakistan’s case again in mid of February.

Challenges that Pakistan is facing are greater than any other country because of high risk profile, which also led to setting up high thresholds, said Azhar.

PML-N’s Dr Aisha Ghaus Pasha observed that if the FATF blacklisted Pakistan, the country would not be able to issue global sovereign bonds.

Azhar downplayed the issue of blacklisting and said that Pakistan had twice been blacklisted in the past, first in 2010.

He said over the last one year the government has built an institutional mechanism to respond to the challenges and the intelligence agencies and the armed forces were also helping the civilian government in this regard.

Pakistan has completed mapping of all non-profit organisations and as a result out of 64,000, around 33,000 NPOs have been de-registered, said Mansoor Siddique, the Director General of Financial Management Unit.

He said the country’s charity laws were also developed in light with the FATF guidelines.

The director general said that cash couriers, investigation and prosecution of terror financing cases and the confiscated assets of banned outfits were a few outstanding areas where the FATF declared Pakistan non-complaint.

“We have seized over 1,000 assets and are now required to investigate their sources and unearth beneficiaries,” said Siddique.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby yensoy » 09 Nov 2019 07:25



This joker is one seriously confused individual; and I will apportion part of the blame on his mother. She should have given him amrit, named him Akashdeep Singh and brought him up on Sikhi, and essentially cut out his father from the records. (Or she should have moved to Pakistan and been in the vicinity of her lover. Just to be clear, this is not about religion, it's about Pakiness.) So he says he is Indian, then he says he is half Indian, half Pakistani and cr@p like that. Equal-equal just doesn't work, never did. The rules are clear and he stands no chance if has pissed off the government.

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Postby sanjaykumar » 09 Nov 2019 07:50

There is brand cachet in writing as an Indian, who takes a Pakistani man of letters seriously? There's no money in it.

However I do not find his writings exceptionable, there are many in India with similar views. It is just that they get a pass and not even an dishonourable mention if they have Hindu names.

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Postby dinesh_kimar » 09 Nov 2019 08:05

yensoy wrote:
This joker is one seriously confused individual


Yes, he's got it all backwards. ( No pun intended !)

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Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 10:41

taseer's sexual orientation has nothing to do with this. whether you find it distasteful or not. keep it out of this thread or warnings will be issued.

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Postby yensoy » 09 Nov 2019 12:06

Rahul M wrote:taseer's sexual orientation has nothing to do with this. whether you find it distasteful or not. keep it out of this thread or warnings will be issued.


Actually it does... sort of...
1. He has made India look like some kind of terrible place for gay individuals
2. He has used this to support his gay marriage and some immigration benefits

But I agree, attacking his gayness itself should be off-limits. Our own culture is highly inclusive when it comes to sexuality, sexual identification and orientation.

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Postby ritesh » 09 Nov 2019 12:24

Peregrine wrote:ritesh Ji & nam Ji :

The Illegitimate Male Offspring Aatish of a Single Mother cannot FORGET HIS MENTAL TORTURE AND JEERING BY HIS SIKH COUSINS, UNCLES & AUNTS :

Present In Our Memory Games A self-identifying, dispiriting tour of Islam's extremities inlaid with personal history - KHUSHWANT SINGH13 APRIL 2009

Aatish was brought up by Tavleen’s parents and spent his childhood with his Sikh cousins. The discovery of his being different from them makes amusing reading. One afternoon playing with his cousins he went to a quiet corner of the garden to empty his bladder. A cousin who joined him to do the same stared at Aatish’s penis with awe and wonder. He came back to announce to his assembly of uncles and aunts: "Aatish ka susu nanga hai!" They broke into hysterics. He was the only boy in the family who had been circumcised. He was Muslim.

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Postby Rsatchi » 09 Nov 2019 13:24

yensoy wrote:
Rahul M wrote:taseer's sexual orientation has nothing to do with this. whether you find it distasteful or not. keep it out of this thread or warnings will be issued.


Actually it does... sort of...
1. He has made India look like some kind of terrible place for gay individuals
2. He has used this to support his gay marriage and some immigration benefits

But I agree, attacking his gayness itself should be off-limits. Our own culture is highly inclusive when it comes to sexuality, sexual identification and orientation.

Agree with Yensoyji on this:
What two people get to within the confines of 4 walls is their business :)
But if you use that to tar the whole community/state then it is the state's business to rebut!! Doesn't state/community have that right :roll:

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Postby nachiket » 09 Nov 2019 13:36

Rsatchi wrote:
yensoy wrote:
Actually it does... sort of...
1. He has made India look like some kind of terrible place for gay individuals
2. He has used this to support his gay marriage and some immigration benefits

But I agree, attacking his gayness itself should be off-limits. Our own culture is highly inclusive when it comes to sexuality, sexual identification and orientation.

Agree with Yensoyji on this:
What two people get to within the confines of 4 walls is their business :)
But if you use that to tar the whole community/state then it is the state's business to rebut!! Doesn't state/community have that right :roll:

You can rebut whatever you want, but somewhere else. When a mod says a certain topic is off-limits, it is off-limits.

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Postby Rsatchi » 09 Nov 2019 14:04

https://indianexpress.com/article/opini ... le6110639/
As discussed earlier the whole issue will now take a emotional turn.
Given the 'Mathradevobhava' sentiment the article will go long way in painting the present dispensation in 'bad light'
Was this necessary at the present juncture!!!
A two-bit jurnou has now been given huge prominence!!
The historic judgement today not withstanding, this will only add to highlight hindu muslim divide!!

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Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 14:57

ANI
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PM Modi at Dera Baba Nanak: I would like to thank the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Imran Khan Niazi for respecting the sentiments of India. #KartarpurCorridor


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Postby Rsatchi » 09 Nov 2019 15:21

https://twitter.com/i/status/1192826377495568384
And SMQ is upset why the ruling today and steal their thunder!!
And what is happening to Burqa Bibi!!!!

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Postby Peregrine » 10 Nov 2019 02:18

The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

'Pathological compulsion' to comment on internal affairs: India on Pakistan's Ayodhya verdict remarks – PTI

NEW DELHI: India hit out at Pakistan on Saturday for objecting to the timing of the Ayodhya verdict, saying Islamabad's "pathological compulsion" to comment on its internal affairs with the obvious intent of spreading hatred is condemnable.

Pakistan foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi objected to the timing of the Ayodhya verdict, which coincides with the inauguration of the Kartarpur corridor, saying he was "deeply saddened" at the "insensitivity" shown at such a joyous occasion.

"We reject the unwarranted and gratuitous comments made by Pakistan on the judgement of the Supreme Court of India on a civil matter that is completely internal to India," Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said.

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Postby g.sarkar » 10 Nov 2019 05:01

Gentlemen: I looked in to this OIC thing about Atish. The rules say that a child whose one parent/grandparent is Pakistani or Bangladeshi is not eligible. A child of a single parent from India, while the other parent's nationality is unavailable is not eligible. Foreign born children born out of live-in relationships with one parent Indian and the other foreign are also not eligible. See https://nriinformation.com/articles7/oc ... igible.htm
As far as I know, Atish says that he was born in UK of an Indian mother who was not married to his Pakistani father. These rules are quite water tight and he is not eligible in every category. If he got the OCI, it was a mistake made by the Indian Consulate.
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Postby Jay » 10 Nov 2019 05:50

g.sarkar wrote:Gentlemen: I looked in to this OIC thing
Gautam



On behalf of all the lazy and speculative posters like me...lakh lakh shukriya!

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby venkat_r » 10 Nov 2019 05:52

Yes the rules are clear and the fact that Aatish did fraud by not disclosing is evident and now he is trying to give it cover by blaming the Indian Govt or directly Modi, let’s call him for what he is

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Postby sanjaykumar » 10 Nov 2019 06:00

So they discover this after twenty years? Bananas grow in India.

How about directing the ire to the saab log, of the safed variety. But the Indian state can digest their vitriol no problem. At some point India has to ask whether it is a confidant state or a petty vengeful one. This fellow would have remained a curiosity but for India turning him into a martyr.

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Postby mmasand » 10 Nov 2019 11:12

g.sarkar wrote:Gentlemen: I looked in to this OIC thing about Atish. The rules say that a child whose one parent/grandparent is Pakistani or Bangladeshi is not eligible. A child of a single parent from India, while the other parent's nationality is unavailable is not eligible. Foreign born children born out of live-in relationships with one parent Indian and the other foreign are also not eligible. See https://nriinformation.com/articles7/oc ... igible.htm
As far as I know, Atish says that he was born in UK of an Indian mother who was not married to his Pakistani father. These rules are quite water tight and he is not eligible in every category. If he got the OCI, it was a mistake made by the Indian Consulate.
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Being born in Britain doesn't guarantee citizenship at birth. He could have got it legitimately though after having an indefinite leave to remain, but what passport was he on preceding that? Does his father have dual nationality? Babus either due to their wilful ignorance, or phone calls from above made them overlook T&C.

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Postby g.sarkar » 10 Nov 2019 11:16

https://www.firstpost.com/india/at-kart ... 27361.html
At Kartarpur cermony, Pakistan's Imran Khan asks India to 'lift all restrictions in Kashmir', claims Valley facing 'humanitarian crisis'
Press Trust of India Nov 09, 2019.
Raising the issue of Kashmir at Kartarpur inauguration ceremony, Paksitan's Imran Khan urged India to end all restrictions in the Valley imposed after New Delhi scrapped Jammu and Kashmir's special status.
'What we are witnessing in Kashmir today, it is not a territorial issue anymore. It has escalated to a humanitarian crisis,' he said
On 5 August, 2019, India had revoked the special status given to Jammu and Kashmir and bifurcated it into two union territories - Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh, drawing a sharp reaction from Pakistan Khan inaugurated the Kartarpur Corridor for the followers of Guru Nanak Dev, allowing them to visit the revered founder of Sikhism's final resting place in Pakistan's Punjab province
The corridor provides visa-free access to Sikh pilgrims, allowing them to travel to Gurudwara Darbar Sahib in Kartarpur, where Guru Nanak Dev spent the last 18 years of his life At Kartarpur cermony, Pakistan's Imran Khan asks India to 'lift all restrictions in Kashmir', claims Valley facing 'humanitarian crisis'
Raising the issue of Kashmir at Kartarpur inauguration ceremony, Paksitan's Imran Khan urged India to end all restrictions in the Valley imposed after New Delhi scrapped Jammu and Kashmir's special status. 'What we are witnessing in Kashmir today, it is not a territorial issue anymore. It has escalated to a humanitarian crisis,' he said
On 5 August, 2019, India had revoked the special status given to Jammu and Kashmir and bifurcated it into two union territories - Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh, drawing a sharp reaction from Pakistan
Khan inaugurated the Kartarpur Corridor for the followers of Guru Nanak Dev, allowing them to visit the revered founder of Sikhism's final resting place in Pakistan's Punjab province The corridor provides visa-free access to Sikh pilgrims, allowing them to travel to Gurudwara Darbar Sahib in Kartarpur, where Guru Nanak Dev spent the last 18 years of his life "What we are witnessing in Kashmir today, it is not a territorial issue anymore. It has escalated to a humanitarian crisis. Unfortunately, things have gotten even worse for the people of Kashmir who are treated like animals, deprived of their basic human rights and besieged by a presence of 9 lakh soldiers," Khan said.
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I guess 9 lakh is now the official figure.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 10 Nov 2019 11:30

mmasand wrote:
g.sarkar wrote:Gentlemen: I looked in to this OIC thing about Atish. The rules say that a child whose one parent/grandparent is Pakistani or Bangladeshi is not eligible. A child of a single parent from India, while the other parent's nationality is unavailable is not eligible. Foreign born children born out of live-in relationships with one parent Indian and the other foreign are also not eligible. See https://nriinformation.com/articles7/oc ... igible.htm
As far as I know, Atish says that he was born in UK of an Indian mother who was not married to his Pakistani father. These rules are quite water tight and he is not eligible in every category. If he got the OCI, it was a mistake made by the Indian Consulate.
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Being born in Britain doesn't guarantee citizenship at birth. He could have got it legitimately though after having an indefinite leave to remain, but what passport was he on preceding that? Does his father have dual nationality? Babus either due to their wilful ignorance, or phone calls from above made them overlook T&C.

Sirji, that is the current law, the past law was different and guaranteed UK citizenship at birth. The new law does not apply to him. Our Atish was born on 27 November 1980. You’re automatically a British citizen if you were born in the UK before 1 January 1983, unless: your father was a diplomat working for a non-UK country. All he had to do was to apply. Please see https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-born-uk.
This is definitely my last post on Aatish Taseer. Time to move on.
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Rahul M » 10 Nov 2019 13:26

meanwhile
https://twitter.com/ragarwal/status/1193385687086579712
Rohit Agarwal
@ragarwal
Candid video exposes what Imran was hoping - that Indian govt prevents Dr MMS from attending and court controversy.
"Manmohan aa gaya?"
"Usko rokenge to use hero banayenge"
"Sari channels par yehi news hogi"

video in link

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Postby Rsatchi » 10 Nov 2019 14:39

g.sarkar wrote:
mmasand wrote:Being born in Britain doesn't guarantee citizenship at birth. He could have got it legitimately though after having an indefinite leave to remain, but what passport was he on preceding that? Does his father have dual nationality? Babus either due to their wilful ignorance, or phone calls from above made them overlook T&C.

Sirji, that is the current law, the past law was different and guaranteed UK citizenship at birth. The new law does not apply to him. Our Atish was born on 27 November 1980. You’re automatically a British citizen if you were born in the UK before 1 January 1983, unless: your father was a diplomat working for a non-UK country. All he had to do was to apply. Please see https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-born-uk.
This is definitely my last post on Aatish Taseer. Time to move on.
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Is there not an article quoting STaseer's dual nationality (his mother was on European descent ?? Scandinavian) and Napak's always allowed dual nationationality and in the same article he mentions about father T setting up a flat(love nest) for the child to be born in UK. Later in the article explaining in quite derogatory terms of what he did in India!!(i.e., his conquest)

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Rsatchi » 10 Nov 2019 16:17

https://twitter.com/i/status/1193385687086579712
Telling video
This is why Modiji is way ahead of the game!!
Modiji Tussi Great ho!!!

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 10 Nov 2019 18:09

https://www.dawn.com/news/1515889/burea ... -departure
Bureaucratic impediments delay Nawaz’s departure
Syed Irfan Raza | Zulqernain Tahir, November 10, 2019

LAHORE / ISLAMABAD: In a dramatic turn of events, the government on Saturday delayed the removal of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s name from the no-fly list, thus forcing a change in his plan to leave for London for treatment on Sunday.
Both the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) and the Ministry of Interior couldn’t arrive at a decision regarding removal of the name of the PML-N supremo from the Exit Control List (ECL) for one reason or another.
“Nawaz Sharif, 69, was due to leave for London on Sunday (today) morning on a PIA flight along with his brother Shahbaz Sharif. All arrangements were finalised but at the eleventh hour the PTI government played a trick and did not remove his name from the ECL,” a source told Dawn. He recalled the government on Friday had stated that removal of Mr Nawaz’s name from ECL was just a formality.
“We are wondering that despite Prime Minister Imran Khan’s assurances and his adviser Naeemul Haq and Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi’s positive statements, Nawaz Sharif’s name could not be removed from the ECL, which shows there must be some issue somewhere in this respect,” he said, requesting anonymity.
“Mr Nawaz is in extremely critical medical condition, which is worsening with every passing moment as his platelets are not stabilising. He needs to be prepared for travel through potent steroids, and this dichotomy in the government’s statements and actions is only making matters worse,” said the source, adding this delay was “extremely dangerous” for him as every hour was important.
“Who will be blamed if complications arise from such impediments to his travel,” he said.
‘Passing the buck’
“It appeared that both NAB and the interior ministry acted consciously, passed the buck to each other and did not make any decision,” an official said.
NAB sought a medical report regarding Mr Nawaz’s health to make its decision whether to allow him to travel abroad or not.
A senior NAB official, who did not want to be named, told Dawn that the anti-graft watchdog had written to the interior ministry, in reply of the ministry’s letter, that the bureau required a media report of Mr Sharif to ascertain the “severity of his health”.
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby abhijitm » 10 Nov 2019 18:13

From now on lets call the moron with his real and apt nick name - Imran Khan Niazi.

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Vips » 10 Nov 2019 20:48

^^ Check how haughty and superior he is acting. Even with his cabinet ministers his facial expressions are like you are too low compared to me.
Thinks of himself as a Mughal emperor instead of the two bit joker of ISI and Army that he is.

Not to mention has a loser surname like Niazi :rotfl:

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Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Peregrine » 10 Nov 2019 21:02

Hindu antecedent of Muslim Jinnah

His grandfather was Lohana-Thakkar, said to be Raghuvanshi descendant of Lord RamRK Misra - MAY 20, 2018

Nearly 70 years after his death, Muhammed Ali Jinnah’s portraits continue to adorn places like Aligarh Muslim University (AMU), Bombay High Court and Sabarmati Ashram in India. On the other hand, the Karachi Chamber of Commerce and Industry building’s foundation stone states that it was laid by Mahatma Gandhi in 1934.

Recently, BJP MP Satish Gautam sought to remove a Jinnah portrait from AMU. It was ironic because, instead of vilifying Jinnah, the Modi government should have actually decorated the Quaid-e-Azam, posthumously, with a Bharat Ratna because, it was Jinnah who created a Hindu-majority Bharat from the rarefied, nebulous India, while pushing the Islamists to a corner of the subcontinent and that was why the Deoband School opposed Jinnah!

Had India remained undivided, its Muslim population would now have been around 600 million, vis-à-vis the Hindus’ 1,000 million. Would the Hindus have lived peacefully with this large ‘minority’? Or, had India been balkanized, as Winston Churchill and others had predicted, such an India would have been the largest Muslim nation in the world!

This is what journalist-author Virendra Pandit’s 2017 book, Return of the Infidel, argues. He claims that, for Jinnah, a non-practicing Muslim, the Pakistan project was more of getting even with his caste rival Gandhi, rather than any fulfilment of the Muslims’ aspirations. An understanding of the dynamics of Indian caste system helps us unravel the mystique of Partition, he says.

Interestingly, both their families hailed from neighbouring districts in the Saurashtra region in Gujarat: Gandhi (Porbandar) and Jinnah (from Moti Paneli village in Upleta taluka, Rajkot district).

The book provides interesting insights into the key figures’ persona and politics of the time that reflects in the present and projects into the future. He surmises that Gandhi virtually “manipulated” Jinnah into demanding Pakistan, and take the failed Partition of Bengal (1905) to its logical conclusion of the Partition of India (1947) through well-calibrated and subtle stratagem. And an ‘innocent’ Jinnah followed this Gandhian script.

Gandhi hailed from the Modh Vania/Bania caste whereas Jinnah, despite his grandfather’s conversion to Islam, inherited his Lohana-Thakkar caste’s obstinate habits. Both these rival castes were seen as great achievers.

The lawyers of his only daughter Dina Wadia, 88, laid claim to the Jinnah House property in Mumbai in 2008 on the basis of Hindu inheritance laws. The Father of Pakistan himself had, in his will, divided his assets in accordance with the Hindu laws

Jinnah was the eldest among seven siblings. None of them settled in Pakistan after 1947. Like his dream project of Pakistan, he was himself ‘half quail, half partridge’, a personality split to the core. So much so that the lawyers of his only daughter Dina Wadia, 88, laid claim to the Jinnah House property in Mumbai in 2008 on the basis of Hindu inheritance laws. The Father of Pakistan himself had, in his will, divided his assets in accordance with the Hindu laws.

“For three generations, the Jinnah family struggled to find its Islamic identity after being ex-communicated from their Hindu caste, Lohana-Thakkars, of the Saurashtra region. This caste was believed to have had a Raghuvanshi descent, from the family tree of Lord Rama, and some thought they were Bhatia Rajputs. Like some other drifted Hindus who had found themselves on an Islamic island, many of the Thakkars, too, continued to use both their Islamic and Hindu names and maintain traditions in alternate generations to retain their roots in both the old and the new worlds.”

Jinnah’s grandfather was a faithful Hindu, Premjibhai Meghji Thakkar. In the early 19th century, Premji, who joined a fishing business, was forced to convert to Islam after his ex-communication by the Hindu orthodoxy. His family members opposed this conversion and tried to get him re-converted. The priests, however, refused to re-induct them into the Hindu-fold, forcing Premjibhai to stay a nominal Muslim. His son Poonjabhai was nicknamed Jhiniabhai due to his wiry physique. They all remained nominal Muslims throughout life. Jinnah derived his surname and the wiry physical frame from his father, Jhinia. Thinly-built Gujaratis continue to be nicknamed Jhinia even now.

Interestingly, Premjibhai had not converted to the mainstream Sunni or Shia beliefs. He had embraced, instead, the heretic Khoja-Ismailia sub-sect for two reasons: one, this helped him expand business as the rich followers of the Aga Khan, the head of the sub-cult, assisted him financially; and two, this taught a lesson to his Hindu detractors who had him ex-communicated for ‘violating’ Vaishnavite pure vegetarianism. Even after conversion, Premjibhai continued to worship the family deity Shrinathji, an incarnation of Lord Krishna, and Thakorji, besides the Tulsi tree. Outside, he would, however, go to the mosque. Premjibhai had joined the Khoja sub-sect, thanks to Adamji Khoja, his friend, philosopher and guide who had brought him into the fish trade and then into the Aga Khan fold.

Premjibhai’s three sons — Gangji, Nathhu and Poonja (Jhinia) — found it difficult to marry in their caste because of this reason and had to marry in similarly converted families. They also moved out of their conservative village. Jhinia settled down in Karachi.

Jinnah’s father’s full name was Jhinia alias Poonjabhai Premjibhai Thakkar. True to the traditions in freshly converted families who wanted to hide their religion, Jhinia had named his eldest boy ‘Mamad’ instead of Muhammed. Jinnah’s full name was Mamadbhai Jhiniabhai Thakkar, or M J Thakkar. When Jinnah was studying at the Christian Missionary Society High School on Lawrence Road, Karachi, his future rival MK Gandhi was also a student in a Christian school, Alfred High School, Rajkot.

When, in January 1893, Mamad went to England, he tried new names: he first sought to be known as ‘Mohammedali Jhiniabhai of Karachi’, then as ‘Muhammed Z. Thakkar”’, by changing Jhinia into Zina, and, finally ‘Muhammed Ali Jinnah’ or M A Jinnah.

The writer is a Senior Gujarat-based journalist. This article first appeared in https://wordsmithsandnewsplumbers.blogspot.in/

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby g.sarkar » 11 Nov 2019 00:13

abhijitm wrote:From now on lets call the moron with his real and apt nick name - Imran Khan Niazi.

Please Sirji,
It has been Dimran Khan Niazi.
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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Rsatchi » 11 Nov 2019 00:38

https://www.dawn.com/news/1516026/proph ... ladun-nabi
And here U go for some more from MR Dimran about his prophet
He sure purified the civilisations but by completely massacring the non-believers

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Re: Terroristan - May 1, 2019

Postby Rohit_K » 11 Nov 2019 06:44

3 attacks in KPK & Pakjab's districts bordering Balochistan this weekend.

Balochis claimed this one in SW Pakjab. Per sources, some were intelligence operatives

Five policemen killed in Rajanpur ambush
https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/11/five- ... ur-ambush/
Five policemen were killed on Sunday after they were ambushed by fugitives in Punjab’s Rajanpur district, police said. Officials said a police team was dispatched to the Arbi Tibba area for the arrest of some fugitives. The miscreants opened fire on the police van as soon as it reached there, the officials said. As a consequence, they said, five policemen were killed.


NSFW/NSFL Pics: https://twitter.com/regsecadvisory/stat ... 1199788034

2nd:
A policeman was also among four people killed in a separate encounter in Dera Ghazi Khan. Unknown men riding a motorbike opened indiscriminate fire after they were signalled by the police to stop at a checkpoint near Kot Mubarak, District Police Officer Asad Sarfraz said. An Elite Force man, a passer-by and two suspects were killed in the exchange of fire that ensued, the official said. Another cop sustained gunshot wounds. Meanwhile, additional contingents were called in for the arrest of miscreants in both Rajanpur and DG Khan districts.



3rd: In DI Khan, KPK - bordering western Pakjab -

Two policemen killed in DI Khan targeted attack: police
https://www.samaa.tv/news/violence/2019 ... ck-police/
At least two policemen were killed after unidentified men opened fire on them in the Kulachi tehsil of Dera Ismail Khan on Saturday, police confirmed. According to the law enforcers, the policemen were on their way to their duties at a check-post when the unidentified motorcyclists attacked them. The policemen were identified as constables Bilal and Yousuf. The attackers fled the scene after the incident and stole the policemen’s service weapons.


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