Terroristan - May 1, 2019
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Wasnt he retained again in a important official position. It was one of the U-turns of PTI government.Bart S wrote:That Ali Jahangir Sidiqqui guy was a PML supporter who was nominated by them as ambassador to the US (actually not a bad choice, as he was young and dynamic, Cornell-educated and a successful businessman). ISI/PTI guys had a corruption case going against him and had him removed. They probably blackmailed him into talking to Kushner as well.
If one continues to make money through Pakistan they will have to follow some lines fixed by the establishment (cant praise India openly, cant accept terrorism, cant openly question military budget etc.). That doesnt mean they are doing it for the establishment. And therein lies the difference. Najam Sethi is close to PMLN and he often is critical of the establishment.partha wrote:I don't think so. People like Najam Sethi are useful for the establishment. They are just pawns and most of what they say is with establishment's blessings. That's my guess. Who do you think his chidiya is? Take another example - Ayesha Siddiqa. She wrote a book on GHQ's businesses called "Military, Inc". She could have only gotten info for the book from the military itself and military allows such books to establish author's credibility among Indian and western media. She regularly writes a column in 'The Print' now and in a recent article she gave out inside details of Bajwa's London visit which reads like it was ghost written by Ghafoora. In it, she says Bajwa talking to a group of people in London delivered a "good news". What's that good news? Apparently Bajwa said Pakistan has decided to get rid of militants. She is selling (to Indian and western audience) that as good news Any serious and independent analyst would laugh at such statements.Bart S wrote:Open and blatant censorship going on in Pakiland; Najam Sethi living dangerously
What is despicable is that the Indian side on the Track Thoo is led by congressi Manish Tewari. You never know the depths to which congressi can fall. We just had the instance of Hamid Ansari who leaked Indian intelligence info while being posted in Iran.venug wrote:When things are not upfront in our faces, we forget and don't think about it. But Track 2 diplomacy is going on with US help.
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Could be even with Chinese help . . . after all, China has in the last several months indicated its willingness to 'facilitate'. Then, there is the SCO rubric and the latest Wuhan spirit. In fact, I would discount any US help at this stage of the US-Pakistan relationship.venug wrote: But Track 2 diplomacy is going on with US help.
Disappointed to see Vivek Katju & Lt. Gen. Hasnain (retd.) mixing up with this crowdSSridhar wrote:Can somebody (or many) list out the names of those in the photo in order? Much obliged. I can only recognize these:
Seated (from left)
4. Manish Tiwary (India)
5. Sherry Rehman (Pakistan)
6.S.K. Singh (India)Former diplomat K.C. Singh (India)
Middle Row (from Left)
8. Lt. Gen Syed Ata Hasnain (India)
10. Barkha Dutt (India)
11. Vivek Katju (India)
Third Row
3. Sidharth Varadarajan (India)
5. Rakesh Sood (India)
7. Suhasini Haider (India)
none of the guys here from India are even considered by the govt as being even remotely influential or representing them or even representing the views of the GoI in any way.venug wrote:When things are not upfront in our faces, we forget and don't think about it. But Track 2 diplomacy is going on with US help.
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SSridhar wrote:Can somebody (or many) list out the names of those in the photo in order? Much obliged. I can only recognize these:
Seated (from left)
4. Manish Tiwary (India)
5. Sherry Rehman (Pakistan)
6. S.K. Singh (India)
Middle Row (from Left)
8. Lt. Gen Syed Ata Hasnain (India)
10. Barkha Dutt (India)
11. Vivek Katju (India)
Third Row
3. Sidharth Varadarajan (India)
5. Rakesh Sood (India)
most track thoo is not govt approved but lootyens liberandus being paid off in kind for services renderedpartha wrote:^
Why? Best option is to not have track 2 at all. Next best option is to at least have people like Katju and Hasnain in the Indian delegation. Even Ajit Doval was part of Track2 once. Also, is this really Track2 or just Jinnah institute inviting some Indians for a conference and passing it off as Track2 dialogue implying implicit GoI approval?
Why let's mix fighters near these paths and keep Pakis on tenterhooks and if only a few trees were hit why are Pakis soo worried? Hain jiPeregrine wrote:Pak will not open airspace until India withdraws fighter jets from forward airbases: Official – PTI
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has told India that it will not open its airspace for commercial flights until New Delhi removes its fighter jets from forward IAF airbases, Pakistan's Aviation Secretary Shahrukh Nusrat has informed a parliamentary committee.
Pakistan fully closed its airspace on February 26 after the Indian Air Force (IAF) fighter jets struck a Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) terrorist training camp in Balakot following the Pulwama terror attack in Kashmir. So the Terroristanis in General and the PAF in Particular are admitting Indian Success in the IAF’s Balakot Attacks!
Aviation secretary Nusrat, who is also the Director General of the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), on Thursday informed the Senate Standing Committee on Aviation that his department has intimated Indian officials that Pakistani airspace would remain unavailable for use by India until the country withdraws its fighter jets from forward positions, Dawn News reported.
"The Indian government approached asking us to open the airspace. We conveyed our concerns that first India must withdraw its fighter planes placed forward, " Nusrat told the committee.
Pakistan airspace to open only if India promises to not repeat Balakot Of course Terroristanis can Practice Kitman and Taqquia, while the Indians cannot.
He further apprised the committee that Indian officials have contacted Pakistan requesting it to lift the airspace restrictions.
"However, Indian officials have been told that Indian airbases are still laden with fighter jets and Pakistan will not allow resumption of flight operations from India until their removal,” said Nusrat.
After the restrictions, all the passenger flights are being diverted to alternative routes by India, The Express Tribune reported.
The CAA official also contested India's claim that Delhi had opened its airspace for Pakistan, the report said.
"Pakistani flights from Thailand have not been restored since the closure of the Indian airspace.Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) flights for Malaysia also remain suspended, "the CAA DG informed the committee.
Last month, Pakistan gave special permission to Prime Minister Narendra Modi's VVIP flight to use its airspace for his official trip to attend the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation summit in Bishkek, the capital of Kyrgyzstan.
However Prime Minister Modi's VVIP aircraft avoided flying over Pakistan. Earlier, Pakistan had allowed India's former External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj to fly directly though Pakistani airspace to participate in the meeting of SCO foreign ministers in Bishkek on May 21.
India aviation industry has suffered huge losses due to the airspace ban by Pakistan. On Thursday, Civil Aviation Minister Hardeep Singh Puri told Parliament that due to the closure of Pakistan airspace, Air India had to spend an extra Rs 430 crore on longer routes.
In Video: Pak will not open airspace until India removes its fighter jets from forward airbases
One Serious Pooch from BRF Gurus : Would it be possible for India to withdraw ALL TRAFFIC RIGHTS from and to Terroristan whether it is a Terroristani Air Craft or Foreign Flag Air Craft!
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Vips Ji :Vips wrote:Track Thoo is Back.
Meanwhile, Pakistan has turned down India’s request to open its airspace for commercial flights, saying it will not lift the restrictions until New Delhi removes its fighter jets from forward Indian Air Force airbases.
No ji please. I think we would be breaking international civil aviation rules or undertaking if we do that.Besides the countries whose airlines are affected would likely impose reciprocal restrictions on us/our airlines.Peregrine wrote:Vips Ji :Vips wrote:Track Thoo is Back.
Meanwhile, Pakistan has turned down India’s request to open its airspace for commercial flights, saying it will not lift the restrictions until New Delhi removes its fighter jets from forward Indian Air Force airbases.
Would it be possible for India to withdraw ALL TRAFFIC RIGHTS from and to Terroristan whether it is a Terroristani Air Craft or Foreign Flag Air Craft!
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Lisa Ji:Lisa wrote:Peregrineji,
Please, not just aeroplanes but also ships.
Peregrine wrote:Vips Ji :
Would it be possible for India to withdraw ALL TRAFFIC RIGHTS from and to Terroristan whether it is a Terroristani Air Craft or Foreign Flag Air Craft!
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Vips Ji :Vips wrote:No ji please. I think we would be breaking international civil aviation rules or undertaking if we do that.Besides the countries whose airlines are affected would likely impose reciprocal restrictions on us/our airlines.
Peregrine wrote:Kartarpurtalks: No anti-India acts to be allowed, Pakistan assures – PTI
ATTARI/WAGAH: India on Sunday conveyed its concerns to Pakistan on possible flooding of areas adjoining the Kartarpur Sahib gurdwara due to the construction of a causeway by the neighbouring nation and urged it to make a bridge like India is doing.
At a bilateral meeting held here, New Delhi also urged Islamabad to take into consideration the sentiments of pilgrims to have smooth, easy, unrestricted access throughout the year for visiting the Kartarpur Sahib gurdwara, the final resting place of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, an official statement said.
A dossier was handed over to Pakistan to highlight India's concerns to which it assured the Indian delegation that no anti-India activity would be allowed.
In this context, concerns regarding individuals or organisations based in Pakistan who might try to disrupt the pilgrimage and misuse the opportunity to play with the pilgrims' sentiments were shared, the statement issued after the second round of discussions on the project said.
The Indian delegation has also sought consular presence in the gurudwara to be able to provide assistance to the pilgrims, if required.
The Indian side conveyed concerns regarding the possible flooding of the Dera Baba Nanak and adjoining areas on the Indian side as a result of earth-filled embankment road or a causeway that is proposed to be built by Pakistan on their side.
The Indian delegation shared detailed flood analysis with Pakistan to underscore these concerns.
It was clearly conveyed that an earth-filled embankment or a causeway will create problems for Indian people and should not be built even in the interim, the statement said.
Details of the bridge that India is building on its side were shared, and Pakistan side was urged to also build a bridge on their side.
This would not only address the flooding related concerns, but also ensure smooth, hassle-free, all-weather pilgrimage to the holy Gurudwara Kartarpur Sahib throughout the year.
The Pakistan side agreed, in principle, to build a bridge at the earliest, it said. Pending the construction of the bridge over the old Ravi creek by Pakistan on their territory, India offered to make interim arrangements for making the corridor operational in November, given the historic importance of the 550th Birth Anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev Ji.
The talks with Pakistan on the modalities for operationalisation of the Kartarpur Sahib Corridor was held at the Pakistan side in Wagah for which an Indian delegation crossed over to the other side of the international border.
The Indian delegation was led by Home Ministry joint secretary S C L Das and comprised representatives from the Ministry of External Affairs, Ministry of Defence, the Punjab government and the National Highway Authorities of India.
The meeting discussed the modalities and draft agreement for facilitation of pilgrims on the Kartarpur Sahib corridor, as also the infrastructure being developed for it.
The meeting reviewed the progress reached in the three rounds of technical meeting that were held in March, April and May 2019.
They endorsed the crossing point "zero point" coordinates that were agreed to at the technical level.
It was agreed to allow visa-free travel for the Indian passport holders and OCI card holders seven days a week.
Throughout the year, 5,000 pilgrims will be allowed to visit Kartarpur Sahib gurudwara per day.
The pilgrims will be allowed to travel as individuals or in groups and also on foot, the statement said.
Pakistan highlighted the infrastructural constraints on their side and conveyed that they might be able to accommodate many of India's proposals in a phased manner.
Pakistan was asked to reconsider its position as the corridor is a long pending demand of the pilgrims and there is expectation that Pakistan would be liberal in allowing more pilgrims and facilities for them.
Both sides have agreed to maintain a channel of communication and work towards finalisation of the agreement on the Kartarpur Sahib corridor.
The technical teams would meet again to ensure that seamless connectivity for the corridor is operational in time so the pilgrimage can begin in November.
In this context, they reiterated the following requests- there should be no restrictions on the pilgrims in terms of their faith, provisions should be made for preparation and distribution of 'langar' and 'prasad' for the pilgrims. The importance for ensuring safe and secure environment for the pilgrims was also underscored.
Based on the representations that were received by the government, the issue of encroachment of land belonging to the gurudwara was once again raised and Pakistani authorities were asked to restore the land to honour religious sentiments.
The Pakistani side agreed to look at this issue.
Government of India has made significant progress in building a state-of-the-art infrastructure, including passenger terminal on the Indian side that can handle over 15,000 pilgrims in a day. This is targeted to be completed by October 31.
The work on the four-lane highway to the crossing point at the international boundary is progressing satisfactorily and is on schedule. It will be completed by September-end.
It has also been proposed to Pakistan to allow 10,000 Indian pilgrims to visit the country under the 1974 protocol on the auspicious occasion.
Progress was made in finalising the draft agreement with regard to the modalities.
In Video : Kartarpur talks: India, Pakistan agree on visa-free travel
Comments : India must be careful to ensure that no Khalistani Terrorists get into India.
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1494212/atc-g ... d-4-othersAn anti-terrorism court (ATC) in Lahore on Monday granted pre-arrest bail to Jamatud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed and four others in a case pertaining to the outfit's alleged illegal use of land for its seminary.
The staff report released by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) last week must have provided some measure of comfort to the champions of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) as well as China that chose Pakistan to be the first key destination for the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), which aims to sustain its economic triumph and realise future ambitions.
CheersAccording to insiders, not all of the 22 projects in the first phase of the CPEC worth about $29bn have been completed yet. Some eight projects in the power sector that are completed are said to be in financial troubles for the non-payment of dues.