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Chetak garu,
SJ has hit a six with that letter, what's the need to push the bowler with a typo? He is not the type who seeks small stuff.
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Cyrano wrote:Chetak garu,
SJ has hit a six with that letter, what's the need to push the bowler with a typo? He is not the type who seeks small stuff.
Cyrano ji

Even though the letter was signed by Jaishankar, the decision to send the letter was taken out side of the MEA.

Dravidian politics is not Jaishankar's forte but involves both HM and PMO who would have read him in

This could have played out in any number of ways and all of them to the detriment to the dravidians. The tone, tenor as well as content of the letter would have very carefully been vetted and drafts would have gotten approved.

hardly the likely scenario for not only a pesky but also politically very sensitive typo to surface at the very last minute is my take

But then again, you could also be right, no......
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Yeah I believe it was intentional, look at everything else in the letter, spotless
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suryag wrote:Yeah I believe it was intentional, look at everything else in the letter, spotless
suryag saar,

Indeed.

these are guys who can, and very often do spend hours debating the optimal placement of commas, and apostrophes.

caste wise, these guys are sartorially sophisticated, grammar nazis, often found in close company with another very important subtype/sub caste - the spelling nazis
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suryag wrote:Yeah I believe it was intentional, look at everything else in the letter, spotless
Not quite. Even the name of the TN CM is misspelt. The Tamilnadu CM is known as M.K. Stalin. But the letter addresses him as M. Stalin. That is a serious error of etiquette in official communication.
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nandakumar wrote:
suryag wrote:Yeah I believe it was intentional, look at everything else in the letter, spotless
Not quite. Even the name of the TN CM is misspelt. The Tamilnadu CM is known as M.K. Stalin. But the letter addresses him as M. Stalin. That is a serious error of etiquette in official communication.
yes indeed.

jaishankar is a tambram and knows very well how to correctly address stalin.

The hierarchy is being set and rules of the pissing contest are being made clear to thiru stalin

this has origins beyond the MEA and is a snub visible to those for whom it is intended.

botox, dyed wigs and transplanted hair is simply not enough to cut the mustard these days

thiru simply doesn't have the testimonials to take on a tambram cabinet minister.

Nirmala Sitharaman, whose munificence he so desperately needs, is also a tambram

thiru is already floundering badly with Annamalai who is politically quite savvy and is undercutting thiru not only in TN but also in SL

Annamalai has deep sources in the IB and other central agencies which no dravidian politico has.

Annamalai has been given Y+ security cover following threat to his life from "religious extremists"

Annamalai also has the ears of folks very high up in the BJP and RSS hierarchy, otherwise he would not have gone to SL on a four day trip to "see and visit" temples
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Sri Lanka foreign reserves dip below $50 million, minister waves red flag
Sri Lanka finance minister Ali Sabry on Wednesday waved a metaphorical red flag in parliament as the troubled nation's usable foreign exchange reserves dropped below $50 million, increasing worry over its ability to provide food, fuel and other essential goods for citizens, and repay massive foreign debts. Sabry - who quit April 4, a day after being appointed, only to return - warned 'we have been over-spending two and a half times'. "In 2021 total income was 1,500 billion (Sri Lankan) rupees… expenditure was 3,522 billion rupees… we were living (beyond) our means…" he said, cautioning lawmakers that aid from the World Bank or the IMF would not solve deep-rooted problems.
Foreign exchange reserves were an estimated $2.31 billion in February. By March it had dropped to $1.93 billion.

Overall reserves have crashed by 70 per cent in two years, Reuters reported.
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K.Annamalai on his SL "temple visit"


the reasons why the thiru and the dravidians are panicking is becoming clearer


K.Annamalai@annamalai_k · 3 May

Had the privilege of meeting former Chief Justice of Srilanka & former Chief Minister of Northern Province Thiru. C.V. Vigneswaran MP avargal

Had a very insightful discussion with him & he was appreciative of our Hon PM Shri @narendramodi avl for his continuous assistance to SL

incidentally, and rather unsurprisingly, no tamil media is covering @annamalai_k's SL tour.
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More about K.Annamalai's "temple visit"

K.Annamalai@annamalai_k

The scale & support our Hon PM Shri @narendramodi avl & GOI had given to Srilanka and to Tamils in particular is unprecedented.

Malayaga Tamils also called as Tamils of Indian Origin reside in the central province of Srilanka in areas of Kandy, Nuwera Eliya, Badullah etc..
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follow thread here if interested......

https://twitter.com/annamalai_k/status/ ... 0104339456


there is a huge backlash against thiru and his dravidian ilk in SL among the tamils

the thirus have yet to realize how rug has been pulled away from under their very feet while thiru and his goons are busy going after devout local Hindus and their temples in TN

That the tamils in SL now trust a north Indian party and their leaders much more than they trust the dravidian lot in TN speaks volumes

a real panic has set in among the thirus because their BIF funding will be greatly affected if the SL tamils have lost trust in them

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For the northern part of srilanka & for the internally displaced Srilankan Tamils, India is building 46,000 houses in one of the largest housing projects across the world

Soft loans are being provided for numerous projects like the train service connecting Colombo & Jaffna
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K.Annamalai @annamalai_k ·16h

An harbour is being built in Jaffna in Kankesanthurai with India giving a soft loan of $45.2 M. Work is on for commencement of passenger ferry between Karaikal & Thoothukudi to this harbour for easy movement of people. This will benefit Jaffa region greatly.
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A simple temple visit.....no

A BJP party functionary was permitted to enter into the jaffna prison and "allowed" to hand over "provisions and clothes" to 12 arrested TN fishermen

this is impossible for the thirus to do and yet a temple visiting BJP gent did so with consummate ease

the MAD trio specialize in hunting big game

gaslighting and gasbag thirus have arrived rather late to the barbecue


K.Annamalai@annamalai_k ·2 May

Met our 12 Tamil Nadu fishermen from Rameshwaram arrested by Srilankan authorities on March 23 in Jaffna prison today!

Gave them provisions and clothes on behalf of @BJP4TamilNadu . I’m very confident with our @IndiainSL embassy working very hard, they will be released very soon

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the dravidian politicos are a silent and sullen lot today, literally left wondering from where the next shot(s) are going to come at them.


thiru is learning hard lessons on diplomacy & country to country relations.

first with the very foolish ukraine student evacuation issue & now this needless controversy of selective and partisan aid to the SL tamils!

in both cases his nose got chopped off when it was needlessly poked into situations where it was not wanted
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There are no such housing projects in India.
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rsingh wrote:There are no such housing projects in India.
There are.. maybe not at that scale.. maybe not at this stage of completion. But there are multiple projects. Some at state government level

Example - Asia’s largest housing colony to be inaugurated soon in Hyderabad
Asia’s largest housing colony with 15,600 dwelling units spread across 112 blocks constructed under the State government’s flagship Dignity Housing Scheme for the poor will soon be inaugurated by Chief Minister K Chandrashekhar Rao.
And many many smaller projects (though in prime properties in Metro location) where the backing is from the Central government

Ex - This one is just about 300 mtrs from my residence
Mumbai: First housing project to receive special govt funds completed
On Thursday, the first residential project in India which received funds under the Centre’s Special Window for Affordable & Mid-Income Housing (SWAMIH) was handed over to homebuyers in Borivli (East) by finance minister Nirmala Sitharaman in a virtual ceremony.

Rivali Park Wintergreens is the first investment by the fund and is also the first project to get completed. It is a large project spread over seven acres consisting of 708 apartments of various configurations in six buildings.
But the real game changer, by a long margin, would be the PM Awaas Yojna. The progress report is here

My maid and couple of her relatives took use of the scheme.
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rsingh wrote:Why are some posters against helping Lankan Tamils? It is about creating chances. Lanka is anti India and bringing China in the equation. The best thing is to cut it to size. It is the right time. Sinahals will show their true colour once their stomach are full.
Yes I think there is an opportunity lost here.

GoI should have told GoSL that half the aid will be landed not in Colombo but in the northern and eastern ports which are anyway more convenient for us (Jaffna, Trinco, Batticaloa). While overt preference for one ethnicity over the other is not possible nor warranted, this will send the message that India cares for all Sri Lankans; and it will give the central political party an easy point. Colombo has to be cut down to size in more ways than one - its importance to the country has to be reduced, its port must be marginalized and the local political bigwigs must be bypassed.
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rsingh wrote:There are no such housing projects in India.
Rsinghji,

I believe affordable housing was a key component in the gujarat model that is still experimented in the different pockets in India. Please note housing is a state subject and there are less tools available for center.Here is a dated article that berates the administration for failing without a single original thought on how to solve it. The size and scale of the housing problem is non trivial. One of the intended side effects of demonetization was to reduce house price inflation which exacerbated the issue of low cost housing


https://m.rediff.com/business/slide-sho ... 140514.htm
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rsingh wrote:There are no such housing projects in India.

Here is a project in Telangana ( state govt + PM Avas yogna)

https://youtu.be/looePmBYjP4

Ps: those larkana houses do look picturesque
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@atmavik ji

you meant Lanka not larkana (Bhutto's hometown IIRC). I hope. 8) :mrgreen:
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Report: China refuses to provide aid to Sri Lanka to help it's ailing economy, unless Sri Lanka signs the Free Trade Agreement (FTA) with China (the FTA is heavily biased in favour of China).

https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/ ... n-for-help
In response to a query about the FTA, President Gotabaya Rajapaksa had said: “the Chinese are asking for too much”.

what the goat means is that the hans are not giving me enough
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Atmavik wrote:
rsingh wrote:There are no such housing projects in India.

Here is a project in Telangana ( state govt + PM Avas yogna)

https://youtu.be/looePmBYjP4

Ps: those larkana houses do look picturesque
OT but GoI should build some affordable housing in Los Angeles where thousands are living in the streets.
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KLNMurthy wrote:
Atmavik wrote:

Here is a project in Telangana ( state govt + PM Avas yogna)

Ps: those larkana houses do look picturesque
OT but GoI should build some affordable housing in Los Angeles where thousands are living in the streets.
:mrgreen: .. yes indeed those poor americans
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chetak wrote: there is a huge backlash against thiru and his dravidian ilk in SL among the tamils

the thirus have yet to realize how rug has been pulled away from under their very feet while thiru and his goons are busy going after devout local Hindus and their temples in TN

That the tamils in SL now trust a north Indian party and their leaders much more than they trust the dravidian lot in TN speaks volumes

a real panic has set in among the thirus because their BIF funding will be greatly affected if the SL tamils have lost trust in them
Sir-ji, kindly don't use "thiru" as a nickname for someone who does not deserve any of it. These dravidians love to use "thiru" as some sort of southern secular resistance to the northern "sri" and attempt to rename places like Sriperumbudur or Srivilliputhur, but they keep falling flat. The reason being, "Thiru" by itself is a name for Vishnu (Thirumaal is the Tamil name for Vishnu and quite common). It is also used as an honorific to other male Hindu gods, be Siva, or Murugan. Hence the names like "Thiru-Annamalai" (Thiruvannamalai - Siva), Thiru-Chendur (Thiruchendur, Murugan), in addition to the more well known Vishnu shrines like Thiru-pati (Tirupati - Balaji/Vishnu), Thiru Ananatha Puram (Thiruvananthapuram - again, Vishnu), and many more. The Sanskritic Sri goes a step further and denotes Lakshmi, whose name, if mentioned, should always come before Vishnu's, hence Sri-Rangam (Srirangam, Ranganatha/Vishnu), Sri-Perumal (Sriperumbudur, Perumal/Vishnu), and so on.

My point is, there is a deep religious significance to these appellations, and these dravidians with their cultural illiteracy rename these places in the name of their politics (thankfully, only those within TN as they'd get a broken nose if they suggest renaming Tirupati or Thiruvananathapuram :)) but make a fool of themselves. It's a different matter that most Tamil folk today also don't know the difference between these two appellations, but that's another topic for another day. At least on this forum, let's not give these political ideology further legitimacy by using a deeply significant Hindu appellation for them. Dravidians (ironically a Sanskrit origin word that does not exist, at all, in Tamil) should be good enough.
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arshyam wrote: Sir-ji, kindly don't use "thiru" as a nickname for someone who does not deserve any of it. Dravidians (ironically a Sanskrit origin word that does not exist, at all, in Tamil) should be good enough.
Will do, arshyam ji.

Apologies all, for any unintended but inadvertent offence..
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I am under the impression that thiru is same as shree :shock:
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Indeed it is used in the same meaning by "Thiru"valluvar, when he says for instance muyarchi thiruvinai aakkum.

So "thiru" is also used to connote Mahalakshmi in Thamizh.
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chetak wrote:Apologies all, for any unintended but inadvertent offence..
None taken, saar. At the end of the day, we are here to learn from each other, and your posts set the standard in this regard!
Najunamar wrote:Indeed it is used in the same meaning by "Thiru"valluvar, when he says for instance muyarchi thiruvinai aakkum.

So "thiru" is also used to connote Mahalakshmi in Thamizh.
Interesting take saar, didn't realize this meaning behind the kural - could you please elaborate how Lakshmi is referred to here? I always understood this kural to mean "effort (muyarchi) will pay off (vinai) even if the god (thiru) is not willing, but a lack of effort will definitely lead to poverty".

P.S. OT for this thread, maybe we can take the discussion to some other thread.
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arshyam wrote:...My point is, there is a deep religious significance to these appellations...
That was very interesting. Thanks for sharing, learned something new.
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arshyam wrote:how Lakshmi is referred to here?
shree is Lakshmi. In Telugu, siri (apabhramsha of shree) means wealth.
(Sorry for the OT. Let us take it to ?)
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Sri Lanka’s PM resigns after weeks of protests over economic crisis
Sri Lanka’s prime minister Mahinda Rajapaksa has resigned following weeks of widespread protests over the island nation’s worst economic crisis since independence.

The move came as police imposed a nationwide curfew in response to violence in the commercial capital Colombo, where supporters of the ruling party stormed a major protest site, attacking anti-government demonstrators and clashing with police who used teargas and water cannon to drive them back.

Protests against the government of Mahinda Rajapaksa’s younger brother, President Gotabaya Rajapaksa, have raged since March, amid the country’s worst financial crisis since independence, with thousands demanding the influential family quit politics for mishandling the economy.
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Sri lankan ruling party MP killed in riots and protests. Things are about to get a lot worse for lankans before it gets better. Indian Navy and Coast Guard need to be on highest alert. The refugees from lanka will come in but lets not forget Sri lanka also has a significant shantidoot population, we have enough problems as is with illegal rohingyas/bangladeshis without getting some more from lanka.
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Dilbu wrote:Sri Lanka’s PM resigns after weeks of protests over economic crisis
Sri Lanka’s prime minister Mahinda Rajapaksa has resigned following weeks of widespread protests over the island nation’s worst economic crisis since independence.

The move came as police imposed a nationwide curfew in response to violence in the commercial capital Colombo, where supporters of the ruling party stormed a major protest site, attacking anti-government demonstrators and clashing with police who used teargas and water cannon to drive them back.

Protests against the government of Mahinda Rajapaksa’s younger brother, President Gotabaya Rajapaksa, have raged since March, amid the country’s worst financial crisis since independence, with thousands demanding the influential family quit politics for mishandling the economy.
this guy mahinda is insignificant.

they guy that the protestors actually want is the goat, the one who caused all the chaos and will also be involved in further chaos going forward and he will not go so easily.
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Sri lanka is in a tailspin ! Homes and properties of 7 cabinet ministers have been set alight by protestors ! Looks like the ancestral home of Rajapaksas has also been set ablaze. Govt. offices, mayors residences and office, hotels, cars everything is being smashed and set alight. I hope Doval saheb is keeping a keen eye and maybe take this as an opportunity to go after the ISI buttons in Sri Lanka. Sad state of affairs but the lankans drunk on their own hubris disowned mother India and embraced the bat eating chinese. Pakistan is probably in the same situation already except it has sugar daddies bailing it out for the time being. Nepal is so broke that they have banned import of lays potato wafers from India but people aren't rioting (yet) thanks to the continuous trade and open borders with India, besides Indian currency is so widely used in Nepal that they are some what insulated from rapid depreciation of their own currency. It feels like the whole world is sitting on a dry powder keg and smoking a cigarette !
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https://indianexpress.com/article/world ... s-7908622/
Sri Lanka crisis Live Updates: Rajapaksas’ ancestral home set ablaze by anti-govt protesters; ruling party MP among 3 killed in clash
Sri Lanka Crisis Live Updates: Sri Lankan Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa stepped down from his post on Monday — a step that would enable his younger brother, President Gotabaya Rajapaksa, to go for a government of national unity as the country continues to face the worst economic crisis in its history.

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chetak
I quote from your last post: "they guy that the protestors actually want is the goat". I suppose you mean the current President Gotabaye Rajapaksa. But he became President only in 2019. The roots of the problems that Sri Lanka is currently facing owe their origins to decisions that were taken by the previous President namely, Mahinda Rajapaksa. It seems to me that the protesters want the family out of office for mismanaging the economy.
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Time to bring SL into the Union of India. Yes they are entitled, problematic and all that - but in the long run we have to look for the good of our country in the coming centuries and they will all fall in line. We can start with a weak union (defence, foreign affairs, currency management, full travel privileges without establishing residence/jobs, and easy path for migration) and then work towards integration after 20 years.
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Time for India to step in and present the Instrument of Accession to Sri Lanka.

Just issue Adhar, Open Jan Dhan Accounts, Ration Card, Do a direct transfer in INR, Gas Cylinders, Bijili, pani, pucca house, free education, etc. is all that is required.

Also Aloo at Rs 20 and Pyaz at Rs 25 will take care of it.
Chennai Vegetable Price Today

Give a 10 year holiday to Indian business investing in textile, hospitality, spices, and fisheries.

We can recover the acquisition cost in 5 years.
Just build a temple at "Sita Illam" and a monument where Ravana was cremated and just tell Indians to complete the Ramayan Circuit. Easily 5-10 million will visit each year. (At it's peek Sri Lanka received less than 1 million tourists)


I call bullshit on those who think we can't handle it and have to wait to become a 10T economy...
If Indians could manage this complexity in 1947 under the adverse condition of partition, what's Sri Lanka with 18 million people and 2/3 ethnic groups.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61381536
Mahinda Rajapaksa: Sri Lankan PM resigns amid economic crisis
Simon Fraser, BBC News, 9/5/2022

Sri Lanka's Prime Minister Mahinda Rajapaksa has resigned amid mass protests at the government's handling of a deepening economic crisis.
The move came as the island was placed under curfew after violent clashes between Rajapaksa supporters and anti-government protesters in Colombo.
Five people have died, including a ruling party MP, and more than 190 injured in violence in the capital.
There have been protests over soaring prices and power cuts since last month.
The island nation is facing its worst economic crisis since gaining independence from Britain in 1948.
Mr. Rajapaksa, 76, sent his resignation letter to his younger brother President Gotabaya Rajapaksa, saying he hoped it would help resolve the crisis, but the move is highly unlikely to satisfy government opponents while the latter remains in power.
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and their fond hope that it happens in India too


fat chance


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We need to get something hard in return if we help them. They backstabed us more than once during LTTE and IPKF period alone. Later and before episodes are many. So what they are going to give us is the question.

If they want to become Chinese munna they can try. In fact, if they still want to become one after that lizard done to them, they are too stupid to be independent.
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Look like Rajapaksha is leaving Colombo now. Took refuge in a Naval Base. Maybeleaving SL itself?
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