The next war in the Persian Gulf

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby UlanBatori » 29 Sep 2019 20:30

Maybe not as fast as Houthis but UBCN is still fast...

That shows THREE Saudi vehicles. By ancient arithmetic. By Modern Kashmiri Demonstration BBC/ AlJazeera arithmetic, that is clearly 10,301 Saudi troops.
Dang! Not as fast as Schinnas News. :((

captured "thousands" of enemy troops, including many officers and soldiers of the Saudi army, as well as hundreds of armoured vehicles in an operation near the border with the southern Saudi region of Najran.

Saudi Arabia has not yet commented on the Houthis' statement.

They say "over several months" is when they killed or captured the Saudis. They also said "500 of the fighters have been killed" which may refer to their own. So large operation:
The (Houthi) infantrymen turned the ambush into an all-out offensive.


IOW, the KSA silence is not new: its been going on for months. WHY were they unable to relieve a surrounded military unit inside their own borders, with all their armor and air power I wonder.
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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby wig » 29 Sep 2019 20:36

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/b ... 44259.html
Bodyguard to Saudi Arabia’s King Salman killed in ‘personal dispute’
Major General Abdulaziz al-Fagham died in the city of Jeddah.

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby UlanBatori » 29 Sep 2019 20:44

Major Jarnails are too old to be prancing around. So this guy must be a desk bodyguard, pretty senior.
Tributes poured in across social media for Major General Abdulaziz al-Fagham, with many including images of the bodyguard at work.
One included him bending down to apparently help tie the shoes of King Salman, the 83-year-old ruler of the oil-rich kingdom.
{Oh! Shashi Tharoor must be relieved: one less competitor in that art}
Others show Mr al-Fagham in the background of events with both King Salman and his predecessor, the late King Abdullah.
Details remained vague.
While officials posted condolences for Mr al-Fagham, the first official word of his death came in a single tweet by Saudi state television.
“Major General Abdulaziz al-Fagham, bodyguard of the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, was shot dead following a personal dispute in Jeddah,” the tweet read.
Sounds exactly like "Casablanca":
Major Strasser has been shot! Round up the usual suspects!!

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby IndraD » 29 Sep 2019 23:17

Yemen's Houthi rebels release Saudi attack video https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/ ... 44121.html

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby IndraD » 29 Sep 2019 23:20

more links
https://twitter.com/Defence_360/status/ ... 53668?s=20
https://twitter.com/Defence_360/status/ ... 66112?s=20

most of these Saudi troops were from Yemen who surrendered without much resistance .

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby UlanBatori » 29 Sep 2019 23:28

ya All**!!!!


Defence360_Official
‏ @Defence_360
16m16 minutes ago
Exclusive pics of Aftermath of Houthi Rebels attack
Nearly 2000 - 3000 Saudi & pakistani army troops surrendered
Stripped off from their uniforms & made to walk a humiliating surrender March
Chi!! @peaceforchange NAK KATWA DIYA RAHEEL NE TUM SABKI
NIAZI ki tarah surrender kia

10,000 troops moving in armoured columns n forced them to surrender! Majority were from #PakistanArmy!
PAK GHQ has trained Saudis well 2 surrender
Watch them pakis & saudis do a surrender march


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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby mmasand » 29 Sep 2019 23:36

IndraD wrote:more links
https://twitter.com/Defence_360/status/ ... 53668?s=20
https://twitter.com/Defence_360/status/ ... 66112?s=20

most of these Saudi troops were from Yemen who surrendered without much resistance .


The initial presser promised to show several formations that have allegedly surrendered, instead they showed a bunch of MRAP's and Land Cruiser pick ups ablaze. The subsequent videos were not telecast through the Houthi mouthpiece. Besides look at those men again, no uniforms, more like rebels of the Hadi/MB. If those had been Saudi troops, we would have heard Hudeidah and South Yemen under heavy aerial bombardment.

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby IndraD » 29 Sep 2019 23:54

Iran proxies are winning big all over Gulf, only country who are hammering their proxies nicely is Israel. Saudi seems to be fighting a losing war.
What are lessons for the world? And India in particular which seems to be aligning with Saudi of-late?

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby vishvak » 30 Sep 2019 00:03

PAK GHQ has trained Saudis well 2 surrender
Watch them pakis & saudis do a surrender march

Reminds of propaganda about how British leadership with Indian troops in WW2 is glorious combination meaning service by Indians under British command. Should keep away from such permutations combination. In Syria the peshmarga or whatever was called at places just moved away (bought out by uknowho) while native yazdi/druids/ paid the most in terms of murderous pogroms slavery et al.

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby IndraD » 30 Sep 2019 01:13

there are ample photos circulating on media & SM which indicate Houthi rebels were able to inflict substantial damage on Saudi army. Even if claim of 10,000 soldiers is incorrect the damage is big.

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby UlanBatori » 30 Sep 2019 01:35

My guess is a battalion was encircled and smashed. A couple of convoys - about 30 vehicles in all - trashed. Probably 120 to 200 men shaheed or surrendered.
The ppl shown walking seemed to include wimmens as well. So that was probably the Houthi Army Special Fauj that went to inflict the damage - cut out the u-no-what of any wounded enemies lying around. There were other pics of TFTA minus shirt etc.

It is possible that "Saudi" formations that actually go to battle may include substantial numbers of foot soldiers/ Toyota Soldiers who have no uniforms, being local recruits or just plain humans picked up from here and there. May include desis as well. The Aphsars may be TFTA Saudis but not many of the others. I mean, why do u think a nation that has to import ppl to be plumbers, electricians, drivers etc etc, has its own trained, uniformed fauj that can do the much harder work of desert warfare? All mercenaries probably. The modern mercenary may not look like the TFTA Alabama School of The Americas Soldiers of Fortune advertised in the books. Experts at ATGM warfare esp. may be very local to West Asia, and very civilian-looking. (The start of the tamasha in the first video is the classic ATGM Musharraf View.)

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby Y. Kanan » 30 Sep 2019 01:44

IndraD wrote:Iran proxies are winning big all over Gulf, only country who are hammering their proxies nicely is Israel. Saudi seems to be fighting a losing war.
What are lessons for the world? And India in particular which seems to be aligning with Saudi of-late?



Ditch Wahabbism and get in bed with the Shia?

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby mmasand » 30 Sep 2019 11:07

IndraD wrote:there are ample photos circulating on media & SM which indicate Houthi rebels were able to inflict substantial damage on Saudi army. Even if claim of 10,000 soldiers is incorrect the damage is big.


The same SM claims that Houthis had hit Abu Dhabi Airport with a drone in their wet dreams? :rotfl:

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Re: The next war in the Persian Gulf

Postby A_Gupta » 24 Oct 2019 09:06

For the US and Israel, a strike against Iran seems inevitable

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-se ... ssion=true
The Iranian regime blends Persian imperial haughtiness with Shia supremacism. Like Cyrus the Great, the first Persian emperor who held the title of "King of the Four Corners of the Earth," Tehran's theocrats intend to seize leadership of today's Islamic world.

But Iran's quest for Near Eastern and Islamic primacy requires accomplishing multiple objectives. It must defeat the Saudi-aligned Gulf monarchies, undermine the Hashemites in Jordan, and confront or co-opt a similarly neo-imperial Turkey, all while avoiding a fall from Russia's good graces.


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