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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 12 Jun 2019 09:19

How temples, Hinduism, and Hindus are controlled and anti-Hindu bias in constitution and laws.
This presenter also is great along with Sai Deepak in these subjects.

Amendment Of Articles 26-30 Of The Indian Constitution | Hariprasad N | Hindu Charter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CpyQBi5HMc

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby OmkarC » 12 Jun 2019 11:55

Slightly off topic, going back to TG... I hope National BJP leadership has already realized this is a much lower hanging fruit compared to Andhra, TN, Kerala and not as challenging as Bengal in terms of a tackling a monstrous, violent state ruling party.. The assembly elections are somewhat further out in 2023, which means wrong moves or inaction now could gradually squander hard won electoral benefits. It's a good time to build the party from village level. The party is very weak in southern TG and only moderately strong in the north.

BJP now has dynamic young leadership that achieved massive victories.. Congress is at its lowest ebb in its history fighting for survival. TRS is also rooting for BJP to grow into opposition space and demolish congress for good, as turning TG into a TRS vs BJP fight will assure solidly transferring minority votebank to them and only them, and they dont have to compete for it with an opposition party .. they can always whip up "Delhi-controlled outsiders" sentiment + freebies + token development. Even in terms of contingency, destroying congress will ensure their vote banks & emotional appeals will linger around longer, even if they lose an election or two.

I hope national leaders also realize there is a rising demand from grassroots to replace the older state BJP president with some of the young leaders who can actually counter MIM, KCR strongly and some who are good at organizational skills. Someone like Bandi Sanjay or Aravind or both would fit the bill perfectly.. Aravind is more like Shah and Bandi Sanjay like Modi.

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Postby Sachin » 12 Jun 2019 12:53

ramana wrote:I think there was a defacto plan by Congress to make LDF walk into Sabarimala trap.
The Congress by keeping quiet emboldened LDF into getting hyper on Sabarimala.

For the commies there were "multiple point of failures" in the way they handled Sabari Mala.
1. It misinterpreted the Supreme Court verdict to mean that young women have to be taken to the temple, irrespective of their own demand, faith or their true purpose. Where as the court verdict was NOT "directive" in nature. It did not say what to do, or what not to do.
2. During the first few days Congress & BJP actually favoured the verdict. The commies assumed that their major rivals in KL are any way the Congress folks and with their earlier stance, things can be easily managed. The Congress in KL can never match the skills of commies in organising things and unleashing propaganda.
3. The BJP (first) and Congress (second) actually judged the pulse of the people first. And you may be right, that Congress actually provided the commies with a long rope to hang. The Congress also only went the legal way, by filing a review petition etc. The commies thought that they could use violence against the BJP & RSS, and the Congress any way would remain meek.
4. The commies -especially the North Malabar based hot-headed fools - assumed that every Hindu (and their own cadre) would accept the verdict with happiness. They ignored all the special branch reports which clearly highlighted the rising resentment. The commies also tried to paint a picture that it was RSS & BJP which was trying to cause L&O problems. It completely ignored the silent group of Hindus, or it assumed that they were all in support of the verdict. The commies clearly could not identify the strong under currents against them and the court verdict.
5. The biggest failure of the commies was they they could not figure out the true sentiments of their own cadre based voters. When commies figured out the votes each of their candidate would get, they went by their old logic of "sure votes", and then added the minority (mainly Muslim) votes to it. They could not even think that their own "sure votes" would go to some one else this time.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rajesh_MR » 12 Jun 2019 17:43

Sachin wrote:
ramana wrote:I think there was a defacto plan by Congress to make LDF walk into Sabarimala trap.
The Congress by keeping quiet emboldened LDF into getting hyper on Sabarimala.

For the commies there were "multiple point of failures" in the way they handled Sabari Mala.
5. The biggest failure of the commies was they they could not figure out the true sentiments of their own cadre based voters. When commies figured out the votes each of their candidate would get, they went by their old logic of "sure votes", and then added the minority (mainly Muslim) votes to it. They could not even think that their own "sure votes" would go to some one else this time.


I feel this is key reason. Idea was to split hindu votes that would usually go to congress. A narrow 2-3% difference would have flipped most seats in favor of communist party. Guess the echo chamber they created fooled them

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ramana » 13 Jun 2019 01:22

I have not seen seat by seat how Kerala voted and would like to see a table now that the dust has settled.
Without data its all maya!

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Postby Karthik S » 13 Jun 2019 12:17

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/s ... 39639.html

Over 150 face action for posts against Kerala CM


KL and WB have healthy competition in such actions.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby hnair » 13 Jun 2019 17:16

Sachin, if you arent yet and want to watch some real fun, check out the TRV airport privatization saga. :rotfl:

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Sachin » 13 Jun 2019 20:46

hnair wrote:Sachin, if you arent yet and want to watch some real fun, check out the TRV airport privatization saga.

The case of the evil capitalist Adani winning the maintenance contract and the benevolent dictator of the state, whining that "No body should think they can work in the state, without the cooperation of the state government?" ;)

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Sachin » 19 Jun 2019 14:39

x-posted from politics thread..
Sachin wrote:A tactically brilliant move from Premachandran MP of RSP (Revolutionary Socialist Party; a party which has presence only in few districts in the small state of KL). He moves the first private bill in the first session of the new Lok Sabha.
Sabarimala: Premachandran to move private bill to stop women

I would consider this as a brilliant move because;
1. He has taken the initiative to bring back the issue of Sabari Mala as soon as Lok Sabha met.
2. The bill has been listed to be put up in Lok Sabha, which means there is merit in the bill.
3. The BJP and Congress will now have to spell out their stance clearly on the issue. Though I have a feeling that BJP will chicken out saying "the matter is sub-judice and let us wait for Hon. SC courts to dispose of the review petitions".
4. The commies of Kerala who took a beating in Lok Sabha elections would be able to use any inaction/weaseling out of the BJP in the next round of state elections.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby srin » 20 Jun 2019 08:00

What's going on with the water crisis in Chennai ? How did the Govt drop the ball ?


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