Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 18 Nov 2020 16:26

The Election Commission has ordered the TRS run State Govt to immediately stop the distribution of INR10K until elections are over. TRS is so shameless to distribute Govt money (not even their own black money) to buy votes. People should take the money but vote for someone else, like they did to Pappu.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 19 Nov 2020 00:16

Interview with a Peaceful fellow:

Even he grudgingly is hoping for a TRS defeat and BJP win.

Basic services & infra problems have been compounded by floods massively, and TRS ate flood relief funds.

Basically, poor who have been impacted by the floods seem to be revolting against TRS.. only BJP is seen as alternative.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Nov 2020 02:27

how did they fly if covid +ve or did the party send a hired private charter

Anil K Antony@anilkantony·9h

My dad Mr. AK Antony and mom Mrs. Elizabeth Antony, both of them have tested positive for COVID19 and have been admitted at AIIMS, Delhi. Their conditions are stable. Do keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 20 Nov 2020 22:45

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/what-c ... mbly-polls
C T Ravi: How Karnataka’s Saffron Firebrand Is Transforming Tamil Nadu BJP Ahead Of 2021 Polls

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has appointed Karnataka’s former Minister for Tourism, Kannada and Culture C T Ravi as the prabhari (in-charge) for Tamil Nadu in a major revamp of responsibilities for its office bearers.

It announced its new team of states in-charge last Friday.

Ravi has also been given charge of Goa and Maharashtra. But the appointment of this ‘unapologetically Hindu’ and ‘fire brand’ leader as the Tamil Nadu in-charge, replacing Muralidhar Rao, signals interesting times to come for the state that goes to elections in few months.

The appointment came a week after Ravi was detained by the Tamil Nadu police in Tiruttani along with other BJP leaders for participating in the Vetri Vel Yatra that the party has been conducting in the state in the run up to the elections.

The month long yatra has been launched by the BJP even as its ally and the ruling All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (AIADMK) government refused to permit such events, citing the pandemic.

“Our cadre in the state is putting in all the effort and working very hard. The Vetri Vel Yatra that has been launched recently is a clear message that this is no time to tolerate anything silently. No time to bear insults. This is a yatra against all the insults and lies, and to tell people the truth, and we will do it,” says the four-time MLA.

The truths include all that the central leadership has done for the state of Tamil Nadu, which need to all be told to the people, says Ravi charting out the design.

“Lord Muruga is the soul of Tamil Nadu, like Sharada Devi is for Kashmir and Ayyappa for Kerala, Murugan is the atma of Tamil Nadu and any insult to our deities shall not be tolerated,” he reaffirms.

And as for those accusing the party of hijacking the deity for their political gains like they did with Lord Ram in Ayodhya, the new state in-charge was clear that the accusations were not going to deter the party.

“They probably haven’t heard of ‘ekam sat vipra bahudha vadanti‘ — the ultimate manifests in different forms. They can say what they like but to us Lord Murugan is no different from Lord Ram,” he says, adding that it wasn’t possible to see the two differently.

His mission and that of the party is to create and groom public leadership, he explains. “And this people leadership, led by a blend of our party’s nationalistic fervo

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 20 Nov 2020 23:18

chetak wrote:how did they fly if covid +ve or did the party send a hired private charter

Anil K Antony@anilkantony·9h

My dad Mr. AK Antony and mom Mrs. Elizabeth Antony, both of them have tested positive for COVID19 and have been admitted at AIIMS, Delhi. Their conditions are stable. Do keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

AK is a RS MP, so they will be staying in Delhi.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 22 Nov 2020 20:39

In the meantime, here is the devil quoting the scriptures ....

white vaisty is the notorious co-author, along with zero loss, of now SC quashed much reviled and ill famed Sec 66A of IT Act that was brought in to please the eyetalian mafia.

sadly, democracy died again today, while hypocrisy was born again

P. Chidambaram@PChidambaram_IN · 9h

Shocked by the law made by the LDF government of Kerala making a so-called ‘offensive’ post on social media punishable by 5 years in prison

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 25 Nov 2020 01:35

There is news that Owaisi saab got a major verbal thrashing from some poor muslims in old city when he went campaigning for GHMC, as his party's MLAs, Corporators didnt do anything but eat relief funds during recent floods.. this kind of open venting of frustration is unheard of, esp against the MIM supremo.. seems he is busy expanding his party all over India, but can't address basic needs of his own "Qaum" in times of need.. Not sure how it will translate into votes.. sorry, can't find a link.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Nov 2020 04:00

OmkarC wrote:There is news that Owaisi saab got a major verbal thrashing from some poor muslims in old city when he went campaigning for GHMC, as his party's MLAs, Corporators didnt do anything but eat relief funds during recent floods.. this kind of open venting of frustration is unheard of, esp against the MIM supremo.. seems he is busy expanding his party all over India, but can't address basic needs of his own "Qaum" in times of need.. Not sure how it will translate into votes.. sorry, can't find a link.

saw it on whatsapp

bharathp · Post by **bharathp** » 25 Nov 2020 04:36

vijayk wrote:
OmkarC wrote:There is news that Owaisi saab got a major verbal thrashing from some poor muslims in old city when he went campaigning for GHMC, as his party's MLAs, Corporators didnt do anything but eat relief funds during recent floods.. this kind of open venting of frustration is unheard of, esp against the MIM supremo.. seems he is busy expanding his party all over India, but can't address basic needs of his own "Qaum" in times of need.. Not sure how it will translate into votes.. sorry, can't find a link.
saw it on whatsapp

can you guys put it on youtube or something so we can share/use later? also anyways I can get that video? and finally - does BR have a watsapp group?

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 25 Nov 2020 10:54

Finally, 6 years after separation from andhra Pradesh(2014), the TRS seems to be loosing its hold over the citizens of telangana.

AIMIMs nonsense on the streets and on social media has pulled in the BJP into telangana, because TRS doesn't know how to respond to islamist aggression.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 25 Nov 2020 12:10

Tamilnadu is intriguing because the ruling regime has fissures,the DMK are desperate ,out of power after so long,did v.well in the Lok Sabha polls and if the state economy flounders along ,with a motley bunch of allies could tip the balance. The BJP punching above its weight in the state will demand huge nos. of seats and a bone fight will erupt with the ruling regime. The alliance may collapse. My gut feeling is that the current regime announced the alliance with the BJP to put off Amit Shah from confabulating openly with Rajini,etc. Plenty of time before the idlis and dosais are cooked!

Kerala is a mess. A 3-way battle,free-for-all with the lungis of the Left down to their ankles exposing their " shockings" ,gold smuggling scam et al. They're trying to fling mud at the BJP and Congress in return,but are in disgrace.The gold smuggling scam has all the ingredients of a Malayalam movie.Sex, smuggling,gold,sleazy babus,police and politicos. However,there is a sharp rise in support for the BJP from the Hindu communities in general and the next election will be v.close if it's a 3-way tie. Add to the pot Owaisi's attempt to unify the Muslim votebank under one flag. Loser,the Congress if this happens. Sad fact is the violence,tit-for-tat increasing.

TRS is in trouble. He is fast losing his charm and the BJP is after his blood.Whether CBN has any irons left in the fire to make some sort of a comeback remains to be seen.The missing link,the Congress? Anoyone seen it? Owaisi might ,rather will get more votes than the GOP!Jagan is a joker,ranting and raving at an SC judge. Youth want jobs not a witch hunt.The Bihar polls are a pointer,which was a v.close fight,many seats had v.slender majorities for the winner. Andhra is still rather feudal. Where the BJP can score with social upliftment.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 25 Nov 2020 13:59

nvishal wrote:Finally, 6 years after separation from andhra Pradesh(2014), the TRS seems to be loosing its hold over the citizens of telangana.

AIMIMs nonsense on the streets and on social media has pulled in the BJP into telangana, because TRS doesn't know how to respond to islamist aggression.

Its not about not-knowing how to respond saar, its that they are hand in glove partners in crime. It all started when in undivided-AP, the great YSR while fighting one of the elections of his life against a united opposition, gave a free hand to allow MIM build a strong political fortress in Old-city and nonsensically gerrymandered assembly segments to MIM's advantage, such that MIM was assured to win nearly all MLA seats in Old city, which till then was an even battle between BJP & MIM.

Then TG movement started - Owaisi played hardball with TRS and initially refused to give Muslim support to the partition of AP claiming it will divide his people.. to win over his crucial support, KCR persuaded him very effectively.. lets say, some decisions by KCR made Owaisi one of the richest politicians in the state, while also ensuring nothing happens to the great YSR legacy of ensuring Muslim-domination of old city.

Coming to the polls, my expectations of BJP winning big are becoming more tempered - as I am learning news of how many places I knew in the past are now being considered as Muslim dominated or have new Muslim voters in tens of thousands.. KCR & Owaisi are more sly & cunning than people give them credit for. No killing of BJP workers, no communal riots or not even any anti-Hindu remarks.. just verbal duels with BJP leaders about no centre funds.. and on the side - simply, slowly and gradually deleting Hindu votes in old city areas and replacing them with enough M-votes, that show even marginally balanced areas now have a significant Muslim presence in tens of thousands.. while in New city, buying off people seems to be the norm. Rohingyas have reportedly been settled in Hyderabad in large numbers by Owaisi while KCR looked the other way, not sure if they account for this massive surge in M-population. While there are reports of disenchantment among muslim voters against TRS & MIM, all it takes is a more communally charged campaign to make sure they vote for their own.

Perhaps this lucrative deal that meets both his long term strategic and financial aspirations is the reason why Owaisi is so against Congress - he likely wants to replicate this Telangana model across India - build his party into sole votebank/custodian of Muslims, ally with a strong regional party to whip up language/regional pride either openly or tacitly. My guess is he doesnt want to play Jinnah, maybe his next generation can play Jinnahs - he will cement his legacy, party while his family wealth/fortune grows exponentially. He is good at switching contexts - if someone complains about lack of development, it will be some "lynching" in Bihar or UP. Then there is always Gujarat/Godhra/Modi or recently France/Macron.

Let's see how this plays out..

venkat_r · Post by **venkat_r** » 25 Nov 2020 14:52

Any of the antics done by KCR and Owaisi are going to help BJP especially in the GHMC. BJP enjoyed a good support for decades, and it was overshadowed by whipping of Telangana sentiments, but now that it has been over 7 years, it is wearing off. KCR had been watching and warded off TDP and INC, but once BJP starts to win seats, would be difficult to hold the seats. This was predicted by many when the state split up, but going to take some more time. That erosion is inevitable as Congress is also in the decline with little hope in the near future.

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 26 Nov 2020 17:02

OmkarC,

Remember the saying, "ghar ka bhedi, lanka dhahi"? (Translation: The castle collapsed because the traitor turned out to be from within our own family)

The "bhedi/mole" in Indias geopolitics is the INC.

Chanakya was logical when he ordered his kingdom to destroy all the monuments and symbols of alexanders rule. It undid all the progress made by invaders. This hasn't yet happened after the collapse of Islamic rule in India, mostly because the INC refused to do so.

To move things in the right direction, the INC has to disappear. You cannot have an NDA(Indian) vs UPA( Indian) competition. You have to make it an Indian vs Arabistan competition. A pure arabistani party(like AIMIM) will be a course corrective step for india.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 26 Nov 2020 18:01

Yes Local elections are governed by local law which I am sure ensured no EVMs.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 29 Nov 2020 13:02

Telangana Congress leader Revanth Reddy asking Muslims in old city, Hyderabad:

"Vote for MIM, we have no problem if it wants to be strong, but where there is no MIM candidate vote for Congress.. we are good friends of Asad Bhai (Owaisi)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGqBnE9mMwI

And MIM is called B-team of BJP !

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 29 Nov 2020 21:02

Listen to her to understand how church and families keep talking of devils/hate against Hindus.

Another tale how this canadian ex-muslim is banned by every publisher and even Aamazon

uskumar · Post by **uskumar** » 30 Nov 2020 10:46

A tale of how IIT Madras had been taken over by Christian missionaries.

https://twitter.com/saffrondravidam/sta ... 43780?s=20

As I have said before, Hinduism is dying or dead in TN. Of course TN people are blinded by leftist idealogy and Tamil sub-nationalism to realize that. Christians have very cleverly used "threat to Tamil language" to propagate their religion.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 04 Dec 2020 10:30

Can someone post the analysis of the GHMC election results being declared? Certainly looks like early leads for BJP in lots of seats.

We are having our own Corporation election here in Trivandrum in a few days and the BJP candidate list is solid youth leaders who did work hard. Having some hope for the party to capture (or close to) majority, if no vote flipping is done by the porcine state level leaders!

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 04 Dec 2020 11:08

only postal ballots have been counted. they are a low 1200 total in number. these ballots are cast by people who are usually anti-incumbent informed voters.

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 04 Dec 2020 12:31

Telangana has an unfinished past.

Back during the razakar rule, the locals fully expected new delhi to evict the non-telugu speaking non-locals out of telangana as an aftermath of the police action in 1948. That didn't happen. The old generation has a lot of anger locked up deep inside against northern castes. A hush-hush gossip in rural telangana is that the northerners are in cahoots with the dwellers in old hyd.

OmkarC · Post by **OmkarC** » 04 Dec 2020 12:52

nvishal wrote:Telangana has an unfinished past.

Back during the razakar rule, the locals fully expected new delhi to evict the non-telugu speaking non-locals out of telangana as an aftermath of the police action in 1948. That didn't happen. The old generation has a lot of anger locked up deep inside against northern castes. A hush-hush gossip in rural telangana is that the northerners are in cahoots with the dwellers in old hyd.

Not exactly.. no matter how secular or even communist they may be in public - older gen folks still carry scars of Razakar era atrocities by Islamo-fascists. Dont think there is any hatred towards North Indians, the older generation had a lot of respect for Sardar Patel.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 04 Dec 2020 13:05

hnair wrote:Can someone post the analysis of the GHMC election results being declared? Certainly looks like early leads for BJP in lots of seats.

We are having our own Corporation election here in Trivandrum in a few days and the BJP candidate list is solid youth leaders who did work hard. Having some hope for the party to capture (or close to) majority, if no vote flipping is done by the porcine state level leaders!

that was a transient phase when only the postal ballots were being counted.

A different trend and another set of numbers is now beginning to emerge.

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 04 Dec 2020 20:28

Ghmc results are finally out

Trs 58
Bjp 47
Aimim 43
Inc 2

Trs has survived the storm. Anti-trs gossip on social media made me believe that they would surely be knocked out. Real telangana is rural telangana and that is where the fight is. Unfortunately, it is mostly a cash for votes game in those parts.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 04 Dec 2020 20:35

nvishal wrote:Ghmc results are finally out

Trs 58
Bjp 47
Aimim 43
Inc 2

Trs has survived the storm. Anti-trs gossip on social media made me believe that they would surely be knocked out. Real telangana is rural telangana and that is where the fight is. Unfortunately, it is mostly a cash for votes game in those parts.

Looks final will be

TRS: 56
BJP: 49
MIM: 42
INC: 2

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 04 Dec 2020 20:47

All Andhra people voted for TRS or even MIM (Jubli Hills 7 TRS and 2 MIM).

Several Andhra areas people voted for TRS or even MIM but not BJP. Wonder why? Is it TDP votebank?

The reason seems to be because of Amaravati capital transfer reason

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 04 Dec 2020 22:00

nvishal wrote:Ghmc results are finally out

Trs 58
Bjp 47
Aimim 43
Inc 2

Trs has survived the storm. Anti-trs gossip on social media made me believe that they would surely be knocked out. Real telangana is rural telangana and that is where the fight is. Unfortunately, it is mostly a cash for votes game in those parts.

Dont know what anti-trs gossip in social media you were reading which created such high expectation in you. Telangana bjp whether in social media or outside was never a match for trs. This is their best performance they put up so far and they gave tough fight to trs. This is good trend.

dsreedhar · Post by **dsreedhar** » 04 Dec 2020 22:54

vijayk wrote:All Andhra people voted for TRS or even MIM (Jubli Hills 7 TRS and 2 MIM).

Several Andhra areas people voted for TRS or even MIM but not BJP. Wonder why? Is it TDP votebank?

The reason seems to be because of Amaravati capital transfer reason

I doubt they (many) voted for TRS or MIM. Maybe they did not vote at all and the rest there voted for TRS/MIM. Need to look at that angle as well.

Rishi_Tri · Post by **Rishi_Tri** » 05 Dec 2020 00:10

GHMC 2020 Tally:

TRS - 55
BJP - 48
AIMIM - 44
Others - 3

GHMC - 2016 Tally:

TRS - 99
AIMIM - 44
BJP - 4
Others - 3

Knowing that municipal results mean only so much (BJP has not been able to transfer its municipal election performance in Delhi to assembly), that is spectacular by any measure for BJP. Telangana, if managed well, shall be the second BJP state in South.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Dec 2020 08:03

Hyderabad fiasco

Even bribery did not work.

sleeves all folded up, well above the elbows, eager to dig in,

and finally, come election day, pappu fails spectacularly once again

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 05 Dec 2020 08:21

Another important pointer - Voting Percentages

BJP 31%
TRS 30%
MIM 15%

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Dec 2020 05:31

It was a great victory for BJP in GHMC.
Despite many barriers they got within 8500 votes from TRS.
For first time after fall of Kakatiyas, a Hindu power has breached Telangana a feat that eluded Vijjayanagar, Marathas, Independent India. It has been 700 years in waiting.
Ranks with Bhagirath quest to bring Ganga.

BJP won 6 seats in MIM strongholds.

Some one can post the maps from 2016 and 2020.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Dec 2020 05:33

vijayk wrote:All Andhra people voted for TRS or even MIM (Jubli Hills 7 TRS and 2 MIM).

Several Andhra areas people voted for TRS or even MIM but not BJP. Wonder why? Is it TDP votebank?

The reason seems to be because of Amaravati capital transfer reason

Last line of stated is nonsense.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Dec 2020 05:34

GHMC impact will be seen even in TN.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 06 Dec 2020 06:37

All this based on anecdotal conversations only. So take it for what its worth.

Andhra vote in GHMC got split between TRS, BJP and TDP in that order. TRS was prime beneficiary.

Most TDP leaning people voted primarily for TRS (those who wanted to defeat BJP)
Some TDP leaning people voted for BJP (those who did not want to vote TRS and those who thought voting TDP in Telangana is wasting their vote).
Small hardcore TDP fans voted for TDP.

YSRCP leaning people voted 100% to TRS as they did not want to see BJP win. Their thought process is if BJP finishes TRS and captures Telangana, it will go after YSRCP next in Andhra.

Janasena leaning people voted for BJP

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Dec 2020 07:40

looks like jagan reddy is going after naidu with a vengeance that may be also a bid to show the BJP that he is quite willing to take down their enemies as well.

naidu has endeared himself to no one in his long and duplicitous political life filled with the multiple examples of the backstabbing of his own allies.

naidu's milk company heritage seems to be the next target of jagan's ire.

naidu had deliberately destroyed many milk cooperatives and then built his company heritage on the ravaged corpses of the collective hopes of farmers.

jagan has now invited amul to set up in AP and is also heavily investing in the new amul venture.

naidu doesn't have anyone to even turn to for help in fending off jagan's assaults.

some chickens seem to have come home to roost

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 06 Dec 2020 07:52

Interesting , I did not know heritage brand belonged to Naidu garu.

nandakumar · Post by **nandakumar** » 06 Dec 2020 08:01

Rony wrote:All this based on anecdotal conversations only. So take it for what its worth.

Andhra vote in GHMC got split between TRS, BJP and TDP in that order. TRS was prime beneficiary.

Most TDP leaning people voted primarily for TRS (those who wanted to defeat BJP)
Some TDP leaning people voted for BJP (those who did not want to vote TRS and those who thought voting TDP in Telangana is wasting their vote).
Small hardcore TDP fans voted for TDP.

YSRCP leaning people voted 100% to TRS as they did not want to see BJP win. Their thought process is if BJP finishes TRS and captures Telangana, it will go after YSRCP next in Andhra.

Janasena leaning people voted for BJP

What is the antipathy for BJP among TDP leaning voters due to? Is it the perception that BJP was responsible for Andhra losing out on 'Special Status' label? Or is it the Kamma caste loyalty at work here?

dsreedhar · Post by **dsreedhar** » 06 Dec 2020 11:22

Rony's post on analysis of Andhra votes breakdown makes sense.

M_Joshi · Post by **M_Joshi** » 06 Dec 2020 14:31

ramana wrote:It was a great victory for BJP in GHMC.
Despite many barriers they got within 8500 votes from TRS.
For first time after fall of Kakatiyas, a Hindu power has breached Telangana a feat that eluded Vijjayanagar, Marathas, Independent India. It has been 700 years in waiting.
Ranks with Bhagirath quest to bring Ganga.

BJP won 6 seats in MIM strongholds.

Some one can post the maps from 2016 and 2020.