2021 Five State Elections

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Re: West Bengal - news and strategy thread

Postby Sachin » 22 Jan 2020 19:54

Hostile attitude of West Bengal Police (naturally abetted by GoWB) when it comes to identification and deportation of illegal immigrants.

No time to verify ID proofs: Cops on migrant workers
The police also claimed that the West Bengal police never cooperated with them in the past in verifying the documents of these ‘migrants’. “They are not even providing facilities to stay there to verify the documents of these people,” said a police officer in HAL Police Station. “We had spent Rs 5 to Rs 6 lakh when we took 60 Bangladeshis to West Bengal, but they refused to accept them, saying they are not receiving any Bangladeshis from Karnataka,” said the officer, adding thereare a lot of practical problems in deporting them.

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Re: West Bengal - news and strategy thread

Postby darshhan » 10 Feb 2020 12:06

ramana wrote:After April 2010 entire WB police will have to be demobilized.
Its too full of jihadi enablers.

All will have to be interviewed and only select few will be retained and posted elsewhere.


plus emasculated. Atleast for a year or two after the next govt comes to power, more than 100,000 CAPFs like CRPF will have to provide security. Additionally the next govt can immediately start raising a force of retired army personnel to carry out policing duties. A precedent for this exists when Nitish Kumar became CM of Bihar in 2005. He immediately raised a force of 5000 retired army personnel to back up the regular police. The name of the force is SAP or special auxiliary Police.

Here is the link describing the concept of SAP

http://biharpolice.bih.nic.in/news/SAF.pdf

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Re: West Bengal - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 12 Feb 2020 17:26

Mamata Banerjee wants to divide and break away Hindu tribals to reduce Hindu numbers.

Sangh Parivar’s mass marriage of tribal people hits speed breaker in Bengal

Mass marriages of tribal people from poor economic backgrounds conducted by different Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS)-affiliated organizations have hit a hurdle in West Bengal with the Mamata Banerjee administration treating these events as the Sangh Parivar’s attempt to convert the followers of the Sari/Sarna religion into Hindus.

The latest event in Alipurduar was being organised by the RSS-affiliated Shree Hari Satang Samiti, in association with Alipurduar Ganabibaho Samiti, which, too, is an RSS-inspired organisation. “We have been conducting similar events for several years. Each time, we only informed the administration in writing about the event and even received the administration’s assistance. Never did the question of obtaining written permission arise,” Ratan Tarafdar, secretary of Alipurduar Ganabibaho Samiti, said.

Various RSS-affiliated organizations, including the VHP, Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, Sewa Bharati and Shri Hari Satsang Samiti have been organizing mass marriages for several years. but this is the first time they are facing obstacles from the administration.

The impetus to stop mass marriages may have come on February 2, when activists of the Jharkhand Disom Party (JDP) vandalised the Malda venue of the mass marriage being organised by the VHP. They had alleged that the marriages were being conducted in the Vedic way, involving Brahmins, whereas tribal marriages involve no Brahmins.

“These mass marriages are RSS’ ploy to turn Sarna followers into Hindus, so that the number of Hindus increases and Sarna followers decrease in the Census. Showing us in lower numbers is their way of depriving followers of Sarna of a separate religion code,” said Lakshmi Kanta Hansda, a Bharatiya Adivasi Ekta Manch leader, whose organization along with several other tribal outfits including the JDP, has been campaigning for months for a separate religion code for Sarna followers in the Census. “We will resist the RSS’s drive to convert tribals to Hinduism and show Sarna followers in lower numbers,” declared JDP state unit secretary Mohan Hansda.

The campaign also urged the state’s Scheduled Tribe (ST) population to list Sarna as their religion during the census of 2021.

RSS’ south Bengal unit secretary Jisnu Basu lashed out at Banerjee and accused her of dividing people in the name of caste and religion.

“I also smell a conspiracy. Are all of the state’s tribal people followers of Sarna religion, according to the census of 2011? Aren’t there tribal people who consider themselves as Hindus? In that case, is there a concerted effort to reduce the number of Hindus?” Basu asked.


In the Census, Sari and Sarna are included as ‘other religious practices’. In the 2011 census, 942,297 people in West Bengal, or 1.03 per cent of the state’s population, had registered themselves as followers of other religious practices, while the state’s ST population stood at 5.8 per cent.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Mollick.R » 19 Feb 2021 17:24

Not interested in governorship; open to becoming Kerala CM if BJP comes to power: 'Metroman' E Sreedharan

Thiruvananthapuram: 'Metroman' E Sreedharan, who is all set to join the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on Sunday, has said that he is open to taking up the chief minister’s post if the party comes to power in Kerala.BJP Kerala chief K Surendran had announced on Thursday that Sreedharan will be joining the party this week. The technocrat told news agency PTI on Friday that he is entering the political fray with an aim to bring the BJP to power in Kerala and work for the state's benefit. “If the BJP wins Kerala Assembly polls, the focus will be on bringing the state out of debt trap and develop infrastructure there,” Sreedharan was quoted as saying.

On a question as to why he is more inclined to become the CM and not Governor, Sreedharan said he is not interested in governorship as in that position, he would not be able to contribute to the state. He said the 'constitutional' position of Governor has “no powers at all”.


https://www.timesnownews.com/india/kerala/article/ready-to-become-kerala-cm-if-bjp-comes-to-power-metroman-e-sreedharan-ahead-of-joining-party/722403

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Mollick.R » 19 Feb 2021 17:26

Only BJP can take country forward, says Metro Man E Sreedharan ahead of joining party

The New Indian Express spoke to the 89-year-old, who is credited with executing several prestigious projects including the Konkan Railway, Delhi Metro and Kochi Metro, to find out his plans

By A SatishExpress News Service

Read Full Interview from here............
https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2021/feb/18/only-bjp-can-take-country-forward-says-metro-man-e-sreedharan-ahead-of-joining-party-2265719.html

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Mollick.R » 19 Feb 2021 17:38

I think there will be a landslide migration to BJP in Kerala: Metro man E Sreedharan
TNN | Updated: Feb 19, 2021, 16:30 IST

KOZHIKODE: “I decided to join BJP because I wanted to do something substantial for the state,” said E Sreedharan on Thursday, adding that he had been a party supporter from the beginning and had an affinity to its ideals ever since his childhood.

I always thought about such for many of our Administrative and engineering gems...........
That many such persons must be supporting only nationalistic ideology available, but due fear of suppression by Dynastic ecosystem they are not open to disclose it or take stands...... As now they say in Bengal there are lots of KUMRA (Sweet Gourd) among us . Just like KUMRA (Sweet Gourd) which is Green outside but yellow/ saffron (somewhere near saffron) It is said in reference to Hidden BEEJYYPEE supporters (saffron guys), hiding/camouflaging with TMC ( green colour)

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kozhikode/i-think-there-will-be-a-landslide-migration-to-bjp-in-kerala-e-sreedharan/articleshow/81103033.cms

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby AshishA » 19 Feb 2021 18:00

So how much of a impact will he have in kerala? Would BJP gain considerable political power in kerala or will it be irrelevant to other parties?

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Mollick.R » 20 Feb 2021 11:28

AshishA wrote:So how much of a impact will he have in kerala? Would BJP gain considerable political power in kerala or will it be irrelevant to other parties?


In my opinion not much......as Kerala is too far gone case..........

Even during peak of Sabarimala Temple Entry case as mass Hindu support against the Court/ Left Govt's diktat the movement didn't resulted pressing of Lotus button on EVM

X-tian & peaceful population plus blind commie Hindu vote blocks are too strong to be overcome by a a single neat & clean image 88 years Old ex-technocrat. Yes Mr. E. Sreedharan is a respected fatherly figure in Kerala but to snatch Kerala from LDF/UDF grip once needs more stronger grass root level organization and competent leaders.

I think just like Rajnikant, E. Sreedharan too took decision of entering politics very late.............. (former one backtracked once again after going through medical issues)......

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby nvishal » 21 Feb 2021 15:06

I think many malayalis themselves do not understand the importance of a demographical change. With many malayali Hindus themselves eating beef, they have broken an important wall, the significance of which they do not fully understand.

Discussion on trendy beliefs sweeping ruling castes off their feet and the grudual collapse of societal structure. Kerala fits acharya Ajay's description here.
https://youtu.be/8wE3u2mf77A

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby vijayk » 24 Feb 2021 09:15

venkat_kv wrote:OmkarC saar,
the reason is just not conversion of the abrahamics guys, but general greed and apathy. the people are generally well off with coastal areas having good water for two to three crops a year and now most of the children are settled abroad. People are either very rich or very poor. Very few have a sense of dharmic or other indic interests. its a constant race of one upmanship with respect to his neighbors/peers with respect to material comforts.



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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Dumal » 24 Feb 2021 10:08

Over in TN/Pondicherry, the elections are expected to be announced next week and held by the end of April. This month saw a ton of action.

Two Pondy MLAs of INC quit and talk of joining BJP. A few more quit as well and the CM/cabinet had to resign. An old breakaway faction from the INC, NRC is part of NDA and together with the newly poàched folks, it looks like BJP hopes to have a coalition in power after the elections, perhaps similar to Goa.

In TN, I think things are getting sorted out a bit more. I get the feeling, that somehow BJP has managed to muzzle Sasikala gang probably with some carrots and sticks. Though the lady entered TN with much fanfare, the entire gang has gotten very quiet and even somewhat deferential to the ruling EPS/OPS led ADMK after some initial noises. In the meantime, the state and the centre has started pouring investments, sops, etc, etc hoping at least some will stick in people's mind. More visits of Modi and other heavyweights are pending. The larger allies, PMK and DMDK also seem quietened. So it is possible that within weeks TN could see a somewhat united NDA taking on the polls. OTOH, there are murmurs of conflict between DMK and INC, which is more and more quite reasonable given how irrelevant INC is growing to be in the national political space. Kamalahasan might be a proxy for AAP in TN but I don't believe will find much traction. We may have to wait to see what AIMIM does. It could be a more even chance for BJP/NDA than I thought I would be a month back.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby OmkarC » 24 Feb 2021 11:05

Dumal wrote:Over in TN/Pondicherry, the elections are expected to be announced next week and held by the end of April. This month saw a ton of action.

Two Pondy MLAs of INC quit and talk of joining BJP. A few more quit as well and the CM/cabinet had to resign. An old breakaway faction from the INC, NRC is part of NDA and together with the newly poàched folks, it looks like BJP hopes to have a coalition in power after the elections, perhaps similar to Goa.

In TN, I think things are getting sorted out a bit more. I get the feeling, that somehow BJP has managed to muzzle Sasikala gang probably with some carrots and sticks. Though the lady entered TN with much fanfare, the entire gang has gotten very quiet and even somewhat deferential to the ruling EPS/OPS led ADMK after some initial noises. In the meantime, the state and the centre has started pouring investments, sops, etc, etc hoping at least some will stick in people's mind. More visits of Modi and other heavyweights are pending. The larger allies, PMK and DMDK also seem quietened. So it is possible that within weeks TN could see a somewhat united NDA taking on the polls. OTOH, there are murmurs of conflict between DMK and INC, which is more and more quite reasonable given how irrelevant INC is growing to be in the national political space. Kamalahasan might be a proxy for AAP in TN but I don't believe will find much traction. We may have to wait to see what AIMIM does. It could be a more even chance for BJP/NDA than I thought I would be a month back.


Thanks for the summary.. Does this anyway improve NDA's chances or is it a complete rout ?

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 24 Feb 2021 12:12

^^ not a complete rout and it increases the chances... have to make sure Kamal, Aap, AIMIM forms a separate 3rd formation... that will further eat away the neutral votes which otherwise might go to DMK... also have to get Sasikala to support ADMK... Modi announcing Devendra kula vellalar is good thing but it might drive away Thevars... so Sasikala support is needed...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 24 Feb 2021 12:17

Goos thing is - there is no wave this time... people r hesitant to vote for DMK too becoz of the past corruption... but I am always surprised why they have left Marans out... that BSNL corruption is open and shut case... pretty straight forward to convict... if they can put Marans atkeast in jail, it might reiterate corruption image of DMK... also have seen some old videos of people complaining to police in 2011 about land grab atrocities of DMK. Thos have to be pushed again... DMK is thinking anti incumbency will get them the seats- it is to certain extent true esp with no JJ, but it is not as easy as parliament election as ADMK has closed the gap... but more effort needed...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 24 Feb 2021 12:19

With some concentrated effort TN and Pondi can be won... let's see whether BJP wants to spend the capital or they will be satisfied with Bengal...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby venkat_kv » 24 Feb 2021 12:23

rpartha wrote:Goos thing is - there is no wave this time... people r hesitant to vote for DMK too becoz of the past corruption... but I am always surprised why they have left Marans out... that BSNL corruption is open and shut case... pretty straight forward to convict... if they can put Marans atkeast in jail, it might reiterate corruption image of DMK... also have seen some old videos of people complaining to police in 2011 about land grab atrocities of DMK. Thos have to be pushed again... DMK is thinking anti incumbency will get them the seats- it is to certain extent true esp with no JJ, but it is not as easy as parliament election as ADMK has closed the gap... but more effort needed...


All fine points rpartha Saar, but putting cases now will be counterproductive after being silent all these months. It might even get them sympathy with big bad modi/ evil north indian/hindi speaking guys hoisting cases on us now to muzzle us ( they will not say they are innocent of the same cases or charges, just that they are targeted). let it play out and then bring back the cases after elections with the usual "law taking its course".

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby V_Raman » 24 Feb 2021 12:34

Covid handling has won a lot of goodwill for ADMK govt. The health minister - C. Vijayabaskar - a MBBS doctor - came across as a level headed, educated, informed person who is in control and a great communicator! Allayed the fears of the public and respect for the govt. is high. Paarkalaam...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 24 Feb 2021 13:11

@venkat, yes it will be too little too late now... but even then I have mentioned only Marans - he is a politically light weight...

@Raman, yes that is one of the reason they have closed the gap... remember after parliament election the % gap is too big.. in the latest surveys it is reduced drastically but still DMK leading... one thing I hope BJP helps ADMK is in handling SM and news media... if u remember before the parliament election, the rape case in Pollachi literally destroyed ADMK in their strong hold and they didnt have an answer... like a deer caught on head lights.. hope BJP can do something about it...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 24 Feb 2021 13:13

Maridhas is doing an excellent job... need more people like him and more coverage to be given to them so that youngsters can get the msg...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby V_Raman » 24 Feb 2021 13:31

DMK election campaign looks tired - Stalin does not come across as a leader - but TN politics is still based on loyalties to MuKa/MGR/Amma - so cannot discount DMK based on how Stalin campaigns. Tejaswi making statements like DMK is anti-hindu in campaign rallies - I really dont know how that is going to impact the voter - such statements are being heard for the first time in TN!!

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Arima » 24 Feb 2021 13:33

rpartha wrote:^^ not a complete rout and it increases the chances... have to make sure Kamal, Aap, AIMIM forms a separate 3rd formation... that will further eat away the neutral votes which otherwise might go to DMK... also have to get Sasikala to support ADMK... Modi announcing Devendra kula vellalar is good thing but it might drive away Thevars... so Sasikala support is needed...


Split in Thevar vote is forgone conclusion after 2019 election vote share of TTV (AMMK). now BJP and ADMK want a new backing votes when Thevar vote goes away from ADMK kitty.
taking up DVK cause is in that direction.

BJP has done this kind of social engineering in Haryana and UP with identifying 1 caste as opponent to unify smaller disjointed caste on opposite side and it worked for them well.
in TN DVK is split among various religion as with any SC caste in south India. lets see how things pan out.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Aditya_V » 24 Feb 2021 13:44

Where are star campaigners Thol Thirumavalan and Ayyakanavu, it's high time they come into media limelight along with TNMK.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 25 Feb 2021 01:24

Arima wrote:
rpartha wrote:^^ not a complete rout and it increases the chances... have to make sure Kamal, Aap, AIMIM forms a separate 3rd formation... that will further eat away the neutral votes which otherwise might go to DMK... also have to get Sasikala to support ADMK... Modi announcing Devendra kula vellalar is good thing but it might drive away Thevars... so Sasikala support is needed...


Split in Thevar vote is forgone conclusion after 2019 election vote share of TTV (AMMK). now BJP and ADMK want a new backing votes when Thevar vote goes away from ADMK kitty.
taking up DVK cause is in that direction.

BJP has done this kind of social engineering in Haryana and UP with identifying 1 caste as opponent to unify smaller disjointed caste on opposite side and it worked for them well.
in TN DVK is split among various religion as with any SC caste in south India. lets see how things pan out.


True... ADMK had a good share of Thevars and Goundars... now Thevars vote has been split between ADMK and Sasikala... that's one of the reason bJP might try to pull Sasikala in... DVK is good to have as it brings certain share but it wont help to replace Thevar numbers... also as u have said, DVK has numbers in other religions too... and other religions will tend to vote DMK/Congress..

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby chetak » 25 Feb 2021 03:37

V_Raman wrote:DMK election campaign looks tired - Stalin does not come across as a leader - but TN politics is still based on loyalties to MuKa/MGR/Amma - so cannot discount DMK based on how Stalin campaigns. Tejaswi making statements like DMK is anti-hindu in campaign rallies - I really dont know how that is going to impact the voter - such statements are being heard for the first time in TN!!


It is true, isn't it

It is the ground reality in TN

this tack should get them to the fence sitters who did not have a clear alternate earlier but now have a reason to try and make a difference

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby chetak » 25 Feb 2021 03:40

rpartha wrote:Maridhas is doing an excellent job... need more people like him and more coverage to be given to them so that youngsters can get the msg...


If only this guy had translation and/or also spoke in english, he would have enormous reach, both in terms of audience and for funding

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby OmkarC » 25 Feb 2021 07:36

V_Raman wrote:DMK election campaign looks tired - Stalin does not come across as a leader - but TN politics is still based on loyalties to MuKa/MGR/Amma - so cannot discount DMK based on how Stalin campaigns. Tejaswi making statements like DMK is anti-hindu in campaign rallies - I really dont know how that is going to impact the voter - such statements are being heard for the first time in TN!!


During Hyderabad Municipal polls, he said Owaisi is the next Jinnah, TRS is anti-Hindu and Hyderabad is infested with Rohingyas.. All true but their impact was not significant - did not win them any new votes but enthused existing cadre.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 25 Feb 2021 13:22

chetak wrote:
V_Raman wrote:DMK election campaign looks tired - Stalin does not come across as a leader - but TN politics is still based on loyalties to MuKa/MGR/Amma - so cannot discount DMK based on how Stalin campaigns. Tejaswi making statements like DMK is anti-hindu in campaign rallies - I really dont know how that is going to impact the voter - such statements are being heard for the first time in TN!!


It is true, isn't it

It is the ground reality in TN

this tack should get them to the fence sitters who did not have a clear alternate earlier but now have a reason to try and make a difference


In the past ADMK reaps these votes as they have openly demonstrated esp JJ that they go to temples... it's just that they dont openly talk about it... by BJP openly talk about it - it will help them to get hindu voters who goes and votes for DMK (by force of habit)... that's what they r trying to bring.. the additional ones.. like DKV - they usually vote for DMK even though they are god fearing as Thevars used to vote for ADMK... now BJP has turned them towards them... and lost in all these is Modi praying to Lord Indira... Indira is accepted as god by DKV and they pray to them whereas DMK has portrayed Indira as north god... now that has been spoiled... like this many things to go... Bringing DKV is master tactic but they need to pull few more...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 25 Feb 2021 13:35

But again the biggest support BJP can give is the narrative- in media and SM... like for example - a DMK muslim MLA has donated some money for Ram Temple and media is going to town as a case of togetherness and how DMK doesnt show difference between religions and it is a case of Tamil identify and pride... BJP/ADMK has to figure this out...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby chetak » 25 Feb 2021 14:53

rpartha wrote:But again the biggest support BJP can give is the narrative- in media and SM... like for example - a DMK muslim MLA has donated some money for Ram Temple and media is going to town as a case of togetherness and how DMK doesnt show difference between religions and it is a case of Tamil identify and pride... BJP/ADMK has to figure this out...


for every one guy like this there are countless others from the rolers and ropers who openly show their hatred in word and deed on a daily basis and often indulge in goondagardhi.

this is the demographic that the BJP is shooting for.

ADMK is just as bad as the DMK. No real difference in substance between the two as jayalalitha always quietly accommodated the diktat of the rolers and the ropers.

she even helped daniel raja into the RS using some ADMK votes after the church approached her for help.

now that she is gone, dirty dan is f(uked and far from home as far as political ambitions go so he is reduced to feeding off the conversion gravy train.

and, conversion gravy trains these days are usually feast and famine situations.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby rpartha » 25 Feb 2021 15:24

Exactly - we need to bring the hatred they show or otherwise the media will show minorities are peaceloving people in TN and it is BJP which is doing all these... need to have that narrative...

Yes she helped D Raja and yes she accommodated church once in a while - but that's the nature of politics right? She wanted some friends even in opposite camps... When u have the opponent going out of way to pls the entire minorities and when the TN political mindset is dictated by Periyar quotes... it's tough to do even what she did.... but I agree she is not without her issues...

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby AshishA » 25 Feb 2021 16:01

A 22 year old RSS worker named Rahul Krishna alias Nandu was by SDPI jihadis in kerala. 3 more seriously injured. This looks like a planned murder. But you won't see our DDM crying about Rahul's age like they did in case of disha.
https://www.opindia.com/2021/02/kerala- ... dpi-goons/

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby OmkarC » 25 Feb 2021 21:34

AshishA wrote:A 22 year old RSS worker named Rahul Krishna alias Nandu was by SDPI jihadis in kerala. 3 more seriously injured. This looks like a planned murder. But you won't see our DDM crying about Rahul's age like they did in case of disha.
https://www.opindia.com/2021/02/kerala- ... dpi-goons/


This is where protection of ecosystem is lacking..

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby darshan » 26 Feb 2021 21:25

#islam #instagram #social media
Kerala: Drug and sex racket busted in Malappuram, Muhammed Aflah and Muhammed Rafeeque arrested for drugging and raping a schoolgirl
https://www.opindia.com/2021/02/two-you ... in-kerala/
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The police have arrested two accused in the case – Muhammed Aflah and Muhammed Rafeeque, both natives of Malappuram district.

The Kerala police said that the girl was given access to a mobile phone for her online classes during the lockdown period. However, during the lockdown, she befriended a 30-year-old youth, now identified as the key accused, through social media platform Instagram.

“After several rounds of chatting on Instagram, the youth visited her home and initiated her into the world of drugs,” an officer said.
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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby arshyam » 27 Feb 2021 08:16

Elections 2021: Bengal Votes In Eight Phases; Assam In Three; Kerala, TN In One
The Election Commission announced the dates for elections to the state assemblies of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Assam, Puducherry, and West Bengal.

While each state has its own dates of polling, the counting of all votes would be held on 2 April.

The schedule for elections is as follows.
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Tamil Nadu
Phases: One
Polling: 6 April

Kerala
Phases: One
Polling: 6 April

Puducherry
Phases: One
Polling: 6 April


Counting and results for all states will be done starting May 2.

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Re: West Bengal - news and strategy thread

Postby arshyam » 27 Feb 2021 08:18

Elections 2021: Bengal Votes In Eight Phases; Assam In Three; Kerala, TN In One
The Election Commission announced the dates for elections to the state assemblies of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Assam, Puducherry, and West Bengal.

While each state has its own dates of polling, the counting of all votes would be held on 2 April.

The schedule for elections is as follows.
West Bengal
Phases: Eight
Polling: 27 March-29 April

Assam
Phases: Three
Polling: 27 March-6 April
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Counting and results for all states will be done starting May 2.

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Re: West Bengal - news and strategy thread

Postby arshyam » 27 Feb 2021 08:28

Jaideep Mazumdar of Swarajya has been publishing some good articles about the run-up to the West Bengal assembly elections:


Here's one explaining the churn happening inside Trinamool:
Suspicion, Sycophancy And Shaming: The Triple ‘S’ Factor That Is Forcing Dinesh Trivedi And Others To Leave Trinamool
The dramatic resignation of senior Trinamool Member of Parliament and former railway minister, Dinesh Trivedi, on the floor of the Rajya Sabha last week has laid bare the environment in the Trinamool that has been forcing many veteran leaders to exit the party.

Trivedi’s was not the first exit, and nor will it be the last.

Many top leaders of the party that Mamata Banerjee founded in 1998 after breaking away from the Congress have left the party.

But Trivedi’s exit stands apart from those of most others. He was elected to the Rajya Sabha on a Trinamool ticket in April last year and his term would have expired only in April 2026.
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Re: West Bengal - news and strategy thread

Postby arshyam » 27 Feb 2021 08:35

Infiltrated By Leftists, Prashant Kishor’s Team Is Driving Mamata Banerjee’s Shrill Poll Rhetoric Against BJP - Jaideep Mazumdar, Swarajya

Trinamool’s hired poll strategist Prashant Kishor’s team — the Indian Political Action Committee (I-PAC) — has been infiltrated by communists.

And it is they who are behind the increasingly shrill rhetoric of Trinamool chief Mamata Banerjee and her colleagues against Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

I-PAC, say Trinamool insiders, has a large number of young men and women who are ardent communists and even radical leftists. They are all passouts from Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) and Jadavpur University (JU).

They are working as field campaign associates, data analysts, developers, digital campaign associates and campaign strategy associates in the I-PAC.

“They are all over Bengal collecting ground-level data and conducting surveys based on which they are designing the party’s (Trinamool’s) election campaign. They advise the party leadership on what to say at election rallies and they handle the social media accounts of all Trinamool leaders,” revealed former Trinamool MP Dinesh Trivedi.

It is they, said another former Trinamool leader who joined the BJP last month, who are behind the shrill and often ugly attacks by Mamata Banerjee and her party colleagues on the BJP.

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Abusing one's political opponent, especially one who is so well respected as Modi is a losing strategy, as 2019 and RaGa's "chowkidar chor hai" showed. Looks like PK hasn't drawn any lessons, and I am surprised someone as seasoned as Mamata is allowing this to define her campaign. Well, desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose.

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Re: West Bengal - news and strategy thread

Postby arshyam » 27 Feb 2021 08:37

Looking forward to more widespread coverage and discussion on this thread from Bengal stalwarts. What happens in Bengal this election would define the future course of eastern India - without pulling up eastern India, we'll never progress beyond a middle income country.


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