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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 12 Jun 2019 09:19

How temples, Hinduism, and Hindus are controlled and anti-Hindu bias in constitution and laws.
This presenter also is great along with Sai Deepak in these subjects.

Amendment Of Articles 26-30 Of The Indian Constitution | Hariprasad N | Hindu Charter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CpyQBi5HMc

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby OmkarC » 12 Jun 2019 11:55

Slightly off topic, going back to TG... I hope National BJP leadership has already realized this is a much lower hanging fruit compared to Andhra, TN, Kerala and not as challenging as Bengal in terms of a tackling a monstrous, violent state ruling party.. The assembly elections are somewhat further out in 2023, which means wrong moves or inaction now could gradually squander hard won electoral benefits. It's a good time to build the party from village level. The party is very weak in southern TG and only moderately strong in the north.

BJP now has dynamic young leadership that achieved massive victories.. Congress is at its lowest ebb in its history fighting for survival. TRS is also rooting for BJP to grow into opposition space and demolish congress for good, as turning TG into a TRS vs BJP fight will assure solidly transferring minority votebank to them and only them, and they dont have to compete for it with an opposition party .. they can always whip up "Delhi-controlled outsiders" sentiment + freebies + token development. Even in terms of contingency, destroying congress will ensure their vote banks & emotional appeals will linger around longer, even if they lose an election or two.

I hope national leaders also realize there is a rising demand from grassroots to replace the older state BJP president with some of the young leaders who can actually counter MIM, KCR strongly and some who are good at organizational skills. Someone like Bandi Sanjay or Aravind or both would fit the bill perfectly.. Aravind is more like Shah and Bandi Sanjay like Modi.

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Postby Sachin » 12 Jun 2019 12:53

ramana wrote:I think there was a defacto plan by Congress to make LDF walk into Sabarimala trap.
The Congress by keeping quiet emboldened LDF into getting hyper on Sabarimala.

For the commies there were "multiple point of failures" in the way they handled Sabari Mala.
1. It misinterpreted the Supreme Court verdict to mean that young women have to be taken to the temple, irrespective of their own demand, faith or their true purpose. Where as the court verdict was NOT "directive" in nature. It did not say what to do, or what not to do.
2. During the first few days Congress & BJP actually favoured the verdict. The commies assumed that their major rivals in KL are any way the Congress folks and with their earlier stance, things can be easily managed. The Congress in KL can never match the skills of commies in organising things and unleashing propaganda.
3. The BJP (first) and Congress (second) actually judged the pulse of the people first. And you may be right, that Congress actually provided the commies with a long rope to hang. The Congress also only went the legal way, by filing a review petition etc. The commies thought that they could use violence against the BJP & RSS, and the Congress any way would remain meek.
4. The commies -especially the North Malabar based hot-headed fools - assumed that every Hindu (and their own cadre) would accept the verdict with happiness. They ignored all the special branch reports which clearly highlighted the rising resentment. The commies also tried to paint a picture that it was RSS & BJP which was trying to cause L&O problems. It completely ignored the silent group of Hindus, or it assumed that they were all in support of the verdict. The commies clearly could not identify the strong under currents against them and the court verdict.
5. The biggest failure of the commies was they they could not figure out the true sentiments of their own cadre based voters. When commies figured out the votes each of their candidate would get, they went by their old logic of "sure votes", and then added the minority (mainly Muslim) votes to it. They could not even think that their own "sure votes" would go to some one else this time.

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Postby Rajesh_MR » 12 Jun 2019 17:43

Sachin wrote:
ramana wrote:I think there was a defacto plan by Congress to make LDF walk into Sabarimala trap.
The Congress by keeping quiet emboldened LDF into getting hyper on Sabarimala.

For the commies there were "multiple point of failures" in the way they handled Sabari Mala.
5. The biggest failure of the commies was they they could not figure out the true sentiments of their own cadre based voters. When commies figured out the votes each of their candidate would get, they went by their old logic of "sure votes", and then added the minority (mainly Muslim) votes to it. They could not even think that their own "sure votes" would go to some one else this time.


I feel this is key reason. Idea was to split hindu votes that would usually go to congress. A narrow 2-3% difference would have flipped most seats in favor of communist party. Guess the echo chamber they created fooled them

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ramana » 13 Jun 2019 01:22

I have not seen seat by seat how Kerala voted and would like to see a table now that the dust has settled.
Without data its all maya!

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Postby Karthik S » 13 Jun 2019 12:17

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/s ... 39639.html

Over 150 face action for posts against Kerala CM


KL and WB have healthy competition in such actions.

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Postby hnair » 13 Jun 2019 17:16

Sachin, if you arent yet and want to watch some real fun, check out the TRV airport privatization saga. :rotfl:

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Postby Sachin » 13 Jun 2019 20:46

hnair wrote:Sachin, if you arent yet and want to watch some real fun, check out the TRV airport privatization saga.

The case of the evil capitalist Adani winning the maintenance contract and the benevolent dictator of the state, whining that "No body should think they can work in the state, without the cooperation of the state government?" ;)

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Postby Sachin » 19 Jun 2019 14:39

x-posted from politics thread..
Sachin wrote:A tactically brilliant move from Premachandran MP of RSP (Revolutionary Socialist Party; a party which has presence only in few districts in the small state of KL). He moves the first private bill in the first session of the new Lok Sabha.
Sabarimala: Premachandran to move private bill to stop women

I would consider this as a brilliant move because;
1. He has taken the initiative to bring back the issue of Sabari Mala as soon as Lok Sabha met.
2. The bill has been listed to be put up in Lok Sabha, which means there is merit in the bill.
3. The BJP and Congress will now have to spell out their stance clearly on the issue. Though I have a feeling that BJP will chicken out saying "the matter is sub-judice and let us wait for Hon. SC courts to dispose of the review petitions".
4. The commies of Kerala who took a beating in Lok Sabha elections would be able to use any inaction/weaseling out of the BJP in the next round of state elections.

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Postby srin » 20 Jun 2019 08:00

What's going on with the water crisis in Chennai ? How did the Govt drop the ball ?

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Postby mappunni » 20 Jun 2019 10:45

srin wrote:What's going on with the water crisis in Chennai? How did the Govt drop the ball?


Less said the better. My mom who lives in Kodambakkam in Chennai pays Rs.400 every day for 4 buckets of water and 2 pots of potable water to cook.

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Postby nandakumar » 20 Jun 2019 11:07

srin wrote:What's going on with the water crisis in Chennai ? How did the Govt drop the ball ?

Okay. Here is what happened. Sometime around December it became clear that NE monsoon had failed. It was recognised that come April, there would be an acute water crisis. A task force of civil servants was constituted to come up with a plan for augmentation of water supply. They identified a few water bodies (Retteri near Ambattur/Avadi was one that I know of)which had water but the same was highly contaminated. They needed to install in situ water filtration plants plus a pipeline network to the nearest main Metro raw water pipeline network so that water could be conveyed to the headworks. The tender was floated and finalised in record time and facilities were to be commissioned by March. But the lowest cost tenderer refused to pay the usual commission to the political establishment. So the contract never got issued! And we are in June in the midst of a crisis more acute than in 1982/83.

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Postby ramana » 20 Jun 2019 21:32

srin, Basically the cyclone high pressure interfered with the arrival of Monsoon. By now usually monsoon arrives. Its supposed to rain today per my contacts.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ramana » 20 Jun 2019 21:32

BJP has decided to takeover TDP and become viable in Andhra Pradesh.

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Postby ramana » 20 Jun 2019 21:33

OmkarC, Kishan Reddy has been given Internal Security under Amit Shah.

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Postby DharmaB » 20 Jun 2019 22:14

OmkarC wrote:Slightly off topic, going back to TG... I hope National BJP leadership has already realized this is a much lower hanging fruit compared to Andhra, TN, Kerala and not as challenging as Bengal in terms of a tackling a monstrous, violent state ruling party.. The assembly elections are somewhat further out in 2023, which means wrong moves or inaction now could gradually squander hard won electoral benefits. It's a good time to build the party from village level. The party is very weak in southern TG and only moderately strong in the north.

BJP now has dynamic young leadership that achieved massive victories.. Congress is at its lowest ebb in its history fighting for survival. TRS is also rooting for BJP to grow into opposition space and demolish congress for good, as turning TG into a TRS vs BJP fight will assure solidly transferring minority votebank to them and only them, and they dont have to compete for it with an opposition party .. they can always whip up "Delhi-controlled outsiders" sentiment + freebies + token development. Even in terms of contingency, destroying congress will ensure their vote banks & emotional appeals will linger around longer, even if they lose an election or two.

I hope national leaders also realize there is a rising demand from grassroots to replace the older state BJP president with some of the young leaders who can actually counter MIM, KCR strongly and some who are good at organizational skills. Someone like Bandi Sanjay or Aravind or both would fit the bill perfectly.. Aravind is more like Shah and Bandi Sanjay like Modi.


TG may not be as bad as WB right now but more or less the local leaders of TRS also slowly will try to consolidate their power by focusing on who are all not voting for them. As time passes with more money to spend in the name of development, they will also try to arm twisting those who oppose them. It was like under current no body suspected that BJP will manage to win four seats in TG( when I stated on this forum that BJP may win 4 seats in TG just after first phase, no body gave much attention, and I also down sized my hopes to 1 or 2. The surprise was mainly because of two reasons. 1) Over confidence of TRS cadre. 2) Public anguish over the arrogance of top TRS leadership.

But now BJP should do the real hard work & not waste time to use this historic opportunity. They should not hope for another surprise in next elections, but should try for something like what happened in AP today, along with strongly supporting the young leaders who emerged from these elections. The MP contender from Medak also a potential leader.

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Postby arvin » 20 Jun 2019 22:25

https://www.firstpost.com/politics/kodi ... 45241.html

Another nail in the coffin of CPM in making.
CPM leader kodiyeri's son has been slapped with rape charges by a woman from mumbai. Mumbai police had coming looking for him in kerala but he is absconding for now. He comes across as rangeela types and had been giving false promises of marriage.
As i understand kodiyeri is no 2 after dictator PV in CPM heirarchy. This case if true will finish of kodiyeri's career since this is the second time his son has fallen foul with law. Few months back he was involved in a repayment case with an arab.

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Postby khatvaanga » 20 Jun 2019 22:29

ramana wrote:BJP has decided to takeover TDP and become viable in Andhra Pradesh.


heard there was a secret meeting of TDP Kapu leaders. Now where they go will decide how hard BJP has to work in AP.

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Postby jpremnath » 20 Jun 2019 22:57

arvin wrote:https://www.firstpost.com/politics/kodiyeri-balakrishnans-son-binoy-booked-on-charges-of-rape-being-groomed-as-vijayans-successor-case-personally-damaging-for-cpm-kerala-chief-6845241.html

...This case if true will finish of kodiyeri's career since this is the second time his son has fallen foul with law. Few months back he was involved in a repayment case with an arab.


That was his other son...the whole khandaan is shitty...Kodiyeris infamous for making the following statements:...Indian Army men are raping(ahh.. the irony) under AFSPA..and then later blamed India and others are cornering 'innocent' China unnecessarily...

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Postby devesh » 21 Jun 2019 03:56

The poaching of TDP RS MP's reeks of mafia tactics

Sorry but just 6 months ago ED raided YS Chowdarys properties for defrauding banks.

And now in BJP he will be untouchable. I'm also not entirely certain that these snakes wont be funneling info to CBN and others.

This is Congressification of BJP. Is this how BJP wants to grow in AP?

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Postby OmkarC » 21 Jun 2019 10:07

devesh wrote:The poaching of TDP RS MP's reeks of mafia tactics

Sorry but just 6 months ago ED raided YS Chowdarys properties for defrauding banks.

And now in BJP he will be untouchable. I'm also not entirely certain that these snakes wont be funneling info to CBN and others.

This is Congressification of BJP. Is this how BJP wants to grow in AP?



Devesh,

At the outset, this move makes BJP supporters feel embarrassed as some of these guys who defected evoke disgust among majority of honest Andhrites. The names of CM Ramesh, YS Chowdary, TG Venkatesh are synonymous with corruption and it is said that blindly supporting such corrupt folks & turning a blind eye to their corruption and land-grabbing actions is what led to hollowing CBN's image, unlike in 90s when he didnt tolerate corrupt practices even of his party folk. So, what's the need for BJP to take their support ?

I see something Chanakian in CM Ramesh & TG Venkatesh's defections.. apparently both are CBN's Benamis and especially CM Ramesh is extremely trusted. Looks like Shah's real target is CBN. I cannot justify why Shah received YS Chowdary, he is being investigated by CBI and is an A1-scamster. Perhaps he was vital to get away with Anti-defection law or he literally begged Shah to let him join giving more valuable piece of info on the Naidu clan. Cant forget his drunk son crashing a Porsche on Hyderabad streets and walking away cleanly. If he is in BJP, why not Nirav Modi or Vijay Mallya ?

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby arvin » 21 Jun 2019 10:44

The defectors utility is to aid clearing triple talaq bill and other bills in rajya sabha. Read between lines. Nirav and mallya are of no use in that cause.

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Postby abhik » 21 Jun 2019 10:52

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ajya_Sabha

One of them is completing RS term in 2020, two in 2022 and the other in 2024. And I'm guessing non of them have any hope of getting reelected to RS from either TS or AP ( unless BJP sends them through some other state) - so their value ends after that.

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Postby Sachin » 21 Jun 2019 11:44

arvin wrote:CPM leader kodiyeri's son has been slapped with rape charges by a woman from mumbai. Mumbai police had coming looking for him in kerala but he is absconding for now. He comes across as rangeela types and had been giving false promises of marriage.

I am still surprised that 100% literate voters of Kerala have not realised that CPI(M) is not a party of the poor. They want the common Kerala people to remain poor, looking for easy money; while the communist top brass all have become absolutely rich or are in cohoots with a few selected business men. The CPI(M) leadership tricks the Kerala people by pointing out at Ambani & Adani (mentioned together like Thompson & Thomson in Tintin comics; this duo are the biggest evil capitalists for an average Keralite commie), while they are hand in glove with pretty much every gold smuggler or a few selected Middle East based businessmen.

This fellow Kodiyeri Balakrishnan is another Yechuri; a chap who has not done any work in his entire life. His two sons all landed up in the Middle East, may by bulldozing few businessmen of Kerala origin. The elder one said to be involved in running dance bars (and prostituition rackets by the side, most likely) got into a problem when he cheated an Arab businessman. The Arab actually came down to KL looking for him. The second son has landed in a bigger trouble; as he is already married. So this comes a case of bigamy, along with other cases like cheating etc.

The joke is that Kodiyeri Balakrishan who was quite vociferous in seeking entry for young women in a Hindu temple, is gone to hiding when he ideally should have welcomed a Bahu Rani and her child to his home.

This case if true will finish of kodiyeri's career since this is the second time his son has fallen foul with law.

There are also rumours that Dictator PV is also a bit worried about his side-kick slowly playing games behind his back. The side-kick also had nursed CM-ship ambitions, with a plan that he would become the CM if the dictator gets in as an accused in the SNC Lavlin corruption case. All these people are from northern Kerala, where CPI(M) is a form of Sicilian mafia. They are very united and ruthless against others; but internally they have lots of fewds between them. So if some one is really interested these fewds can be exploited and like a mafia they will either rat against each other, or start killing each other (which is more recommended). This arab chasing the elder son of Kodiyeri Balakrishan in KL was also said to be Dictator PV giving a small clue that K.B would be cut down to size, if he gets too uppitty.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby chetak » 21 Jun 2019 13:47

OmkarC wrote:
devesh wrote:The poaching of TDP RS MP's reeks of mafia tactics

Sorry but just 6 months ago ED raided YS Chowdarys properties for defrauding banks.

And now in BJP he will be untouchable. I'm also not entirely certain that these snakes wont be funneling info to CBN and others.

This is Congressification of BJP. Is this how BJP wants to grow in AP?



Devesh,

At the outset, this move makes BJP supporters feel embarrassed as some of these guys who defected evoke disgust among majority of honest Andhrites. The names of CM Ramesh, YS Chowdary, TG Venkatesh are synonymous with corruption and it is said that blindly supporting such corrupt folks & turning a blind eye to their corruption and land-grabbing actions is what led to hollowing CBN's image, unlike in 90s when he didnt tolerate corrupt practices even of his party folk. So, what's the need for BJP to take their support ?

I see something Chanakian in CM Ramesh & TG Venkatesh's defections.. apparently both are CBN's Benamis and especially CM Ramesh is extremely trusted. Looks like Shah's real target is CBN. I cannot justify why Shah received YS Chowdary, he is being investigated by CBI and is an A1-scamster. Perhaps he was vital to get away with Anti-defection law or he literally begged Shah to let him join giving more valuable piece of info on the Naidu clan. Cant forget his drunk son crashing a Porsche on Hyderabad streets and walking away cleanly. If he is in BJP, why not Nirav Modi or Vijay Mallya ?


a senior KAR congi politician joined the BJP because one of his shady family members was under investigation and was subsequently raided after this politico joined the BJP.

so none of these guys can expect "mercy" as practised usually by the congis.

naidu committed harakiri because of his vendetta politics. He forgot that Modi-Shah is not ABA who would have passed it all off with a poignant shayari at some mehfil.

my guess is that both naidu and his son will pay the price of gaddari and betrayal.

this is some gift for the BJP in the RS and they may get to their desired RS numbers just a bit sooner than expected

detailed inputs on naidu have already come in from jagan who needs to curry favor urgently with the BJP/RSS brass. those longish meetings at dilli with Modi Shah was not for only drinking tea.

kumaraswamy brought down yeddy with info passed on by low level clerks and office staff. Similarly, jagan would have found enough converts to do his dirty work and pass on the inputs against naidu to him.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby OmkarC » 21 Jun 2019 14:06

DharmaB wrote:But now BJP should do the real hard work & not waste time to use this historic opportunity. They should not hope for another surprise in next elections, but should try for something like what happened in AP today, along with strongly supporting the young leaders who emerged from these elections. The MP contender from Medak also a potential leader.



Yes, Raghunandan Rao.. he is good as well.. he was pushed out of TRS due to internal politics apparently.. he is very sharp at handling opponents in debates and presents compelling factual arguments.

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Postby OmkarC » 21 Jun 2019 14:36

lots of sharp reactions against BJP coming from ordinary folks for admitting these corrupt folks.. hope Shah has thought through the implications, beyond the obvious RS gain.

Reports now coming out that of the 23 elected TDP MLAs, 15 are planning to join BJP, that's exactly 2/3rds. And if the remaining 8 can join YSRCP, TDP will cease to exist at state level. TDP is crying that BJP - YSRCP have joined hands to wipe them out.

Meanwhile, Jagan has started targeting each top TDP leader in each district and cases are being filed on corruption charges.

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Postby sum » 21 Jun 2019 17:17

OmkarC wrote:lots of sharp reactions against BJP coming from ordinary folks for admitting these corrupt folks.. hope Shah has thought through the implications, beyond the obvious RS gain.

Reports now coming out that of the 23 elected TDP MLAs, 15 are planning to join BJP, that's exactly 2/3rds. And if the remaining 8 can join YSRCP, TDP will cease to exist at state level. TDP is crying that BJP - YSRCP have joined hands to wipe them out.

Meanwhile, Jagan has started targeting each top TDP leader in each district and cases are being filed on corruption charges.

Who are these ordinary folks saar?

The ones who anyways had BJP is a useless party which betrayed AP and kept spitting venom against Modi?

If 2014 and 2019 has shown something, it is that Namo/ Amit Shah play really long games which stuns supporters and enemies alike when it pulls off

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Postby hnair » 21 Jun 2019 18:48

Sachin wrote:
hnair wrote:Sachin, if you arent yet and want to watch some real fun, check out the TRV airport privatization saga.

The case of the evil capitalist Adani winning the maintenance contract and the benevolent dictator of the state, whining that "No body should think they can work in the state, without the cooperation of the state government?" ;)


If you are an aficionado of WWII naval battles and likes time-travel, here is what I feel happened:

The battle ship Bismarck was steaming along at a high speed after a highly successful campaign of silencing the coastal batteries off Dover, but having nowhere to go, because Reichsmarine is otherwise finished and port of Hamburg is smoldering. Somewhere near Jutland, it got a surprise shot zinging across its bow from its own naval sibling. The shot was from pocket battleship Graf Spee. Baffling to the Bismarck, the Graf Spee was running under command of Admiral Valdimir Tributs and running the flag of one Josef Stalin. Even more baffling, the Graf Spee was being helped by that pride of Royal Navy, the much-vaunted but under-delivering HMS Hood, who was also shooting at Bismarck on behalf of Stalin.

Bismarck did not speed up or slow down, but used one of the minor turrets to take out Graf Spee's range-finders and sink the Hood with multiple salvos.

All that is fine in these confusing days, if not for the fact that a time-travelling CVN called USS Gerald Ford, provided some heavy air support for the Bismarck.

When I put it down like this as majestic fighting ships of the seas, it is making me :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: in confusion

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Bismarck: a current MP
Graf Spee: former speaker and self-proclaimed MR Clean
Hood: the under achieving Scientist turned Fin Min
Stalin: of course, obviously the Great Dictator of the state
Gerald Ford: The behemoth send by Samrat of India to manage the hawai and sagar addas around here

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Postby ramana » 22 Jun 2019 00:10

OmkarC wrote:lots of sharp reactions against BJP coming from ordinary folks for admitting these corrupt folks.. hope Shah has thought through the implications, beyond the obvious RS gain.

Reports now coming out that of the 23 elected TDP MLAs, 15 are planning to join BJP, that's exactly 2/3rds. And if the remaining 8 can join YSRCP, TDP will cease to exist at state level. TDP is crying that BJP - YSRCP have joined hands to wipe them out.

Meanwhile, Jagan has started targeting each top TDP leader in each district and cases are being filed on corruption charges.



Basically Naidu is getting his own medicine of hostile takeover like he did with NTR.
BTW hostile takeovers are common to TDP.
Nadendla Bhaskar Rao tried the first on NTR and failed. Was sent licking his wounds to Congress.
Then came the successful 25 year hostile takeover by CBN.
Now is the third hostile takeover by BJP of CBN.
Only this time the entity is being dissolved.

If you see the movie Kathanayakudu there is a 30 sec scene were N Bhaskar Rao approaches NTR.
It triggered in me the understanding that TDP is basically non-Reddy, non-SC group in Congress that got marginalized during Sanjiva Reddy, Brahmananda Reddy and Chenna Reddy politics.
So they rode coat tails of a popular actor and created TDP.

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Postby Rony » 22 Jun 2019 02:47

ramana wrote: If you see the movie Kathanayakudu there is a 30 sec scene were N Bhaskar Rao approaches NTR.
It triggered in me the understanding that TDP is basically non-Reddy, non-SC group in Congress that got marginalized during Sanjiva Reddy, Brahmananda Reddy and Chenna Reddy politics.
So they rode coat tails of a popular actor and created TDP.



Congress has always been the Reddy + Christians (including converted SCs) + Muslim party. That vote bank now shifted to Jagan Reddy/YSRCP. No matter what, this vote bank wont change hands. In exceptional case, Reddy's get some sense and take a Hindu as their "leader" and throw the YSR/Jagan clan out of their biradari so to speak. But this is virtually impossible even in medium term.

TDP is Kamma + BCs party. If BJP plays its cards well, post CBN, this vote bank at least partially will shift to BJP even in worst case scenario. Add some Kapus and Rajus to it , and BJP on development + Hindutva basis can give tough fight to Jagan. For this, CBN and his pappu son has to go and the Kammas and BCs made to be realize that CBN phase is truly over.

To order to achieve this objective , if it means use and throw corrupt business money bags like Sujana, CM Ramesh, TG venkatesh, then so be it.

The bigger objective is EJs/Jagan/YSRCP should be stopped come what may. Otherwise if unchecked sooner, AP will be another Kerala or Southern TN where pockets of Hindu resistance will be felt here and there but overall change in demographics coupled with psudo-secularism/neo-commies/north india-south india type lunatics will make it virtually impossible for Dharmics to rule this land again.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 22 Jun 2019 03:42

sum wrote:
OmkarC wrote:lots of sharp reactions against BJP coming from ordinary folks for admitting these corrupt folks.. hope Shah has thought through the implications, beyond the obvious RS gain.

Reports now coming out that of the 23 elected TDP MLAs, 15 are planning to join BJP, that's exactly 2/3rds. And if the remaining 8 can join YSRCP, TDP will cease to exist at state level. TDP is crying that BJP - YSRCP have joined hands to wipe them out.

Meanwhile, Jagan has started targeting each top TDP leader in each district and cases are being filed on corruption charges.


Who are these ordinary folks saar?

The ones who anyways had BJP is a useless party which betrayed AP and kept spitting venom against Modi?

If 2014 and 2019 has shown something, it is that Namo/ Amit Shah play really long games which stuns supporters and enemies alike when it pulls off


Other than honest long-term Parivar people, all other ordinary BJP people reactions' can be ignored. BJP is admitting all kinds of people. It worked with A1 to A20 people to bring them to power in AP. So it is all working with corrupt people in corrupt ways to bring more corrupt people.

This whole thing boils down to majority in Rajya Sabha which is odd institution in India anyway that pulls in and houses all sorts of power brokers instead of housing Maryada Ramanna people. Only handful more RS people and some more parties need to be pulled to get majority.

Once Rajya Sabha majority comes almost all bills can be passed in auto-mode without invoking any special process such as joint sessions to pass bills.

>Jagan has started targeting .... cases are being filed on corruption charges

:rotfl: (this is rolling less than 1 inch. we need full page rolling smilie)

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby chetak » 22 Jun 2019 06:48

ShyamSP wrote:
sum wrote:
Who are these ordinary folks saar?

The ones who anyways had BJP is a useless party which betrayed AP and kept spitting venom against Modi?

If 2014 and 2019 has shown something, it is that Namo/ Amit Shah play really long games which stuns supporters and enemies alike when it pulls off


Other than honest long-term Parivar people, all other ordinary BJP people reactions' can be ignored. BJP is admitting all kinds of people. It worked with A1 to A20 people to bring them to power in AP. So it is all working with corrupt people in corrupt ways to bring more corrupt people.

This whole thing boils down to majority in Rajya Sabha which is odd institution in India anyway that pulls in and houses all sorts of power brokers instead of housing Maryada Ramanna people. Only handful more RS people and some more parties need to be pulled to get majority.

Once Rajya Sabha majority comes almost all bills can be passed in auto-mode without invoking any special process such as joint sessions to pass bills.

>Jagan has started targeting .... cases are being filed on corruption charges

:rotfl: (this is rolling less than 1 inch. we need full page rolling smilie)


nitishwa and uddhav thackeray are likely to use their RS seats to impede/blackmail the Modi Shah duo.

that is why the Modi Shah duo are building their numbers and looking for replacements for these gaddars.

nitishwa has not given up his PM ambitions and he wants to grab luloo's muslim votebank and he is aiming to break free of Modi and project himself as a strong and independent secular alternative.

everything nitishwa is objecting to, like art 370, 3T etc has a muslim pasand content.





In RS, all eyes on JD(U) as Oppn seeks to refer triple talaq Bill to Select Committee
Numbers in the Upper House are delicately poised.


The NDA, minus JD(U) and with the support of BJD, Independents and others, has the support of 109 members for the legislation while the Opposition tally is 108.

With the Opposition hoping to stall the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Marriage) Bill, 2019 in Rajya Sabha by demanding that it be referred to a Select Committee or standing committee for legislative scrutiny, all eyes will be on NDA ally JD(U) when the Bill is tabled in the Upper House.
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The Bill was introduced in Lok Sabha on Friday for the second time after it lapsed following the dissolution of 16th Lok Sabha.

Numbers in the Upper House are delicately poised. The NDA, minus JD(U) and with the support of BJD, Independents and others, has the support of 109 members for the legislation while the Opposition tally is 108. So, the fate of the Bill now depends on what position three parties take — the JD(U) and TRS with six seats each and the YSR Congress Party with two.

The Opposition’s hopes rest particularly on the JD(U) that has made its discomfort with the Bill very apparent.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby OmkarC » 22 Jun 2019 14:18

ShyamSP wrote:
>Jagan has started targeting .... cases are being filed on corruption charges

:rotfl: (this is rolling less than 1 inch. we need full page rolling smilie)


That's what people empowered him to do. One of the first people he is targeting for arrest is Chintamaneni Prabhakar, a former MLA who is a notorious Rowdy sheeter, for scamming farmers of irragation pipelines from Polavaram. If you are from Andhra, you know what kind of a character this guy is.. its disgust for people like him that led to CBN's defeat.

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https://swarajyamag.com/insta/after-ker ... harassment
The incident has stirred political backlash as the Congress-led Opposition used the opportunity to attack CPI(M). Leader of Opposition Ramesh Chennithla censured Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan in the assembly, holding his party responsible for the businessman's suicide. The party had also taken out a protest march.

"The tragic incident reveals how CPI(M) is dealing with the people in misery. The absolute power has degenerated the party in power. We will resist the designs of CPI(M) in Kerala and support the victim's family. I feel pity for Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan who is appealing NRIs to invest in Kerala," said Mullappally, the PCC chief of Kerala.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby hanumadu » 23 Jun 2019 04:04

Rony wrote:
ramana wrote: If you see the movie Kathanayakudu there is a 30 sec scene were N Bhaskar Rao approaches NTR.
It triggered in me the understanding that TDP is basically non-Reddy, non-SC group in Congress that got marginalized during Sanjiva Reddy, Brahmananda Reddy and Chenna Reddy politics.
So they rode coat tails of a popular actor and created TDP.



Congress has always been the Reddy + Christians (including converted SCs) + Muslim party.


Minor nit pick. Congress' vote bank is Reddy, SC (Hindus, not converted), Muslims and Christians (including converted SCs).
But it has had strong Kamma leaders also like Renuka Chowdhary, Upendra etc. They provide equal opportunity for all to loot.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

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