Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Yagnasri » 06 Nov 2019 15:18

But the news outlets which are pro Jagan is saying that CS is not properly conducting admin and is stopping CM work. He brought an lady IAS officer from GoI to replace the CS. It may be possible that the new one is a EJ.

New outlets are saying that the Praveen is a honest person etc etc and all fault is there with CS only.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Karthik S » 06 Nov 2019 19:20

Could anyone who can read translate what's written.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 06 Nov 2019 20:09

Karthik S wrote:Could anyone who can read translate what's written.


On cake it says:
LV [Subramanyam] downed/defeated/ousted/gone
Subbu [LV Subramanyam] get out
[It is] Christian victory
E JM [E Jerusalem Muthaih]

Close translation for News:
Christian groups are happy for transferring Government Chief Secy LV.
It is result of Christian prayers and they celebrated with cake cutting. It is victory of Chrisitan prayers said Jerusalem Muthaiah, President of All-India Dalit Christian groups Union and Christian religion protection Association.
They thanked Chief Minister.
LV made anti-constitutional remarks. He passed GOs that are anti-secular, anti-Dalit, and revengeful of Christians.
He ordered to collect affidavits from Dalits employees who are Hindu-friendly and has been working for many years.
Police searched Christian houses and made them fearful.
By transferring RSS and BJP agent LV to some useless post they restored Dalit self-pride, self-respect and fulfilled Ambedkar's desires.
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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Karthik S » 06 Nov 2019 20:13

ShyamSP wrote:
Karthik S wrote:Could anyone who can read translate what's written.


It says:
LV [Subramanyam] downed/defeated/ousted/gone
Subbu [LV Subramanyam] get out
[It is] Christian victory
E JM [E Jerusalem Muthaih]


The Telugu part I meant.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 06 Nov 2019 20:24

The "Dalit" Christian pastor Jerusalem Mathaiah who is mentioned in the above report cutting cake and celebrating the removal of LV subramanyam calling him an RSS agent and taking credit for his removal is also the same Christian pastor who was accused in the note for vote scam. Then the allegations against him was that it was through this Christian pastor that CBN tried to bribe the TRS nominated MLA Stephenson. Just shows how the rot is deep in both regional parties whether its YSRCP or TDP. Its the same actors behind the scenes.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Karthik S » 06 Nov 2019 20:38

How come these people have gained so much influence? Is it money power along with demographic? Or just the later? It's astonishing.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 06 Nov 2019 20:41

ShyamSP wrote:
Karthik S wrote:Could anyone who can read translate what's written.


On cake it says:
LV [Subramanyam] downed/defeated/ousted/gone
Subbu [LV Subramanyam] get out
[It is] Christian victory
E JM [E Jerusalem Muthaih]

Close translation for News:
Christian groups are happy for transferring Government Chief Secy LV.
It is result of Christian prayers and they celebrated with cake cutting. It is victory of Chrisitan prayers said Jerusalem Muthaiah, President of All-India Dalit Christian groups Union and Christian religion protection Association.
They thanked Chief Minister.
LV made anti-constitutional remarks. He passed GOs that are anti-secular, anti-Dalit, and revengeful of Christians.
He ordered to collect affidavits from Dalits employees who are Hindu-friendly and has been working for many years.
Police searched Christian houses and made them fearful.
By transferring RSS and BJP agent LV to some useless post they restored Dalit self-pride, self-respect and fulfilled Ambedkar's desires.

I referred this video mentioning a Pastor's worry in the past - viewtopic.php?p=2383664#p2383664

Cake cutting celebration is visible expression of Angst of separating Dalits and Christians via conversion bills/GOs/Census process. Muthaiah like Characters now have to choose between Dalit identity (to keep SC reservation) or Christian identity (to lose SC reservation) instead of parading Dalit-Christian identity

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 06 Nov 2019 20:51

Karthik S wrote:How come these people have gained so much influence? Is it money power along with demographic? Or just the later? It's astonishing.


YCP votebanks from last elections are Reddy (75%) SC (60%) ST (80%). EJ-funded Christian groups influence SC and ST votebanks and "Christian Reddy" CM political coterie influence Reddy votebanks. Money and demographics are there. On top it, BJP has been "enabling" YCP so "appearance of National" political power is there. This LV Subramanyam was brought in to AP before elections to help YCP.
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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ramana » 06 Nov 2019 20:55

What % of the population is the YCP votebank?

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 06 Nov 2019 21:04

ramana wrote:What % of the population is the YCP votebank?


20-25% solid votebank is there.

Hidden thing going on is YCP government is doing survey of the lands to take over and convert to house plots for mainly SC/ST votebanks for future-proofing votebanks. They are asking all vote-bank family members (4-6) to apply for new housing.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Karthik S » 06 Nov 2019 21:35

ShyamSP wrote:
ramana wrote:What % of the population is the YCP votebank?


20-25% solid votebank is there.

Hidden thing going on is YCP government is doing survey of the lands to take over and convert to house plots for mainly SC/ST votebanks for future-proofing votebanks. They are asking all vote-bank family members (4-6) to apply for new housing.


Shouldn't it be more if X alone are 20% of the state?

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby OmkarC » 06 Nov 2019 23:41

Yagnasri wrote:But the news outlets which are pro Jagan is saying that CS is not properly conducting admin and is stopping CM work. He brought an lady IAS officer from GoI to replace the CS. It may be possible that the new one is a EJ.

New outlets are saying that the Praveen is a honest person etc etc and all fault is there with CS only.


Turf wars apparently existed, but such things could be resolved by talking things out, not by such a drastic measure. Apparently, Jagan's mother, sister & bro-in-law are all rabid Hindu hating EJs and they wanted CS out because of some recent steps he took:

- Tried to stop the practice of printing govt facilities for Jerusalem trips, on RTC bus tickets of Tirumala bound buses.

- The GO banning non-Hindus from working at Tirumala was apparently sent out by him w/o consulting CMO (I had actually posted it a while back saying its the most pro-Hindu decision that even BJP couldnt take till date, apparently it wasn't Jagan but his CS who was responsible for it).

- Held meetings in his own capacity with TTD officials to review the implementation of the above GO

No wonder these "Dalit Christians" are celebrating his ouster wildly.

Salivating over the possibility of controlling Tirumala and doing what they want without anyone questioning them.

With folks like LVS out of the way, perhaps they will have Bible distribution ceremonies on Tirumala hill while Hindus hold on to their fake caste-pride and busy fighting each other.

AP is on course to becoming the Nagaland of South India if things continue this way.

My suggestion - Modi/Shah need to step in and declare Tirupati/Tirumala as UTs and ban religious conversions/non-Hindus from entering or working there.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Yagnasri » 07 Nov 2019 09:36

The other problem is the caste of Mr Subramanyam. He is a Brahman. To counter him Jagan brought Ramana Dikshithulu as adviser to TTD ( not as a Vamsaparamparya archaka as he was promised before) So YSRC do not want to appear it is attacking brahmins.

Bro in Law of Jagan is "Brother" Anil Kumar a hardcore EJ (Brahmin convert) said to have collected thousands of crores during YSR rule for conversion purpose. That fellow is not openly doing conversion things now. So they are playing this game carefully at this time.

But TDP backed MSM which is in fact most of the MSM in Telugu is going to town on this just to attack Jagan. While TDP is not friend of Hindus and as bad as Jagan gang it is allowing media controlled by it do this attacks.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby wasu » 07 Nov 2019 10:58

https://twitter.com/sriramusai/status/1 ... 65760?s=19

Translation: Forget AP. Past 4 days traveling here (Kakinada, Annavaram (Major temple), Pithapuram area). RoL everywhere. Boards, Hoarding, Festivals everywhere. Can't do this without Govt support.

It is in plain sight now for anybody traveling in AP now a days. One can only hope that these guys go really over board and the backlash starts from general public. Nothing else will stop these guys at this point. They feel completely above law with Jagan at the helm.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Yagnasri » 07 Nov 2019 11:09

wasu wrote:https://twitter.com/sriramusai/status/1190655608594165760?s=19
They feel completely above law with Jagan at the helm.
This feeling started in CBN time itself. Now it is full flow. Gulte fellows are slowly realising what their stupidity is doing to them.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 07 Nov 2019 11:24

Yagnasri wrote:
wasu wrote:https://twitter.com/sriramusai/status/1190655608594165760?s=19
They feel completely above law with Jagan at the helm.
This feeling started in CBN time itself. Now it is full flow. Gulte fellows are slowly realising what their stupidity is doing to them.


Devadaya Shaka (Temple Ministry) was held by BJP person during CBN time, nothing was done however as Minister he had ability to change some simple rules to give control to Hindus. Simple thing is Central Government can remove state governments to control temples in the name of same "secularism". Once you remove temples from Government control Hindus can use money for various religious purposes. Currently it is very difficult to take help from or even talk to bigger temples for some Agamic procedures as they are in Government control and EOs feel like they are kings of empires.
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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 07 Nov 2019 11:32

AP is going to dogs from another aspect also, Looks like current Government is planning to kill Telugu by going to all English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85JI2MLFe3E

Worst thing India did was not getting rid of Colonialism induced slave mindset, Colonial institutions and education. Slave Nation is no Nation.


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