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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby venkat_r » 19 Nov 2019 08:39

Yagnasri wrote:
Kashi wrote:


Such activities are done when there is no powerful party identified with Hindus available to take advantage for the situation. Further, the era of social media etc changed the situation. Most of the parties mentioned above lost very badly once there is Hindu consolidation. The problem with AP is BJP is weak locally mainly due to lack of efforts from the leadership. With Anil Dhevdhar being in charge that may change hopefully.

All they have to do it not invite the snake CBN into their friendship.


BJP lost that opportunity, or rather did not care when CBN was an in the coalition, BJP’s strategy has been to cannibalize their coalition

BJP has been ruthless in their pursuit, not that it is bad, but it just makes them just the same political snakes and nothing more.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Sachin » 19 Nov 2019 09:59

sudarshan wrote:Why is Rajini getting together with Kamal, and that too both of them being endorsed by Joseph Vijay?

My sincere request to BJP (or any other group) who has high hopes on Rajinikanth. It has been time & again proven that he is unfit for politics. As I said earlier; this chap gained some credibility mainly due to the movies in which he acted. Outside that movies he actually has no charisma or super human powers. He does not have the political acumen to even win a Panchayath election all by himself. And he is part of an industry noted for the glamour outside and sleaze inside. We really don't know where all he has faltered and opponents having ready stock of "evidence" on him.

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Postby ShyamSP » 19 Nov 2019 11:41

venkat_r wrote:
Yagnasri wrote:
Such activities are done when there is no powerful party identified with Hindus available to take advantage for the situation. Further, the era of social media etc changed the situation. Most of the parties mentioned above lost very badly once there is Hindu consolidation. The problem with AP is BJP is weak locally mainly due to lack of efforts from the leadership. With Anil Dhevdhar being in charge that may change hopefully.

All they have to do it not invite the snake CBN into their friendship.


BJP lost that opportunity, or rather did not care when CBN was an in the coalition, BJP’s strategy has been to cannibalize their coalition

BJP has been ruthless in their pursuit, not that it is bad, but it just makes them just the same political snakes and nothing more.

Problem with BJP in AP has is they don't want to get dirt on their hands to deal with local issues. If one has local issue they can go to a YCP leader to get it solved, same thing would have happened if TDP was in power. Most people linkages are like that especially in rural areas and they can't go beyond parties they can approach. Instead of being at local issue level, they are using Congress level styles of controlling via CBI/ED/EC/etc to pull a few people which is very temporary. If they have to get decent double digit vote bank, they have to work to break YCP, otherwise they will be nothing but spoilers of vote shares between YCP and TDP and JS.

Another problem BJP has is they use tactics of Hindu-ROP in Northern states for Hindu-ROL. ROP issue is on the face issue and sometimes violent like North Indians face where as ROL issue is subtle and sophisticated frog-in-slow-boiling-pot. Recent #SaveHindusFromJaganReddy and pic-video-sharing like propagandas are limited unless such tactics are long-drawn and done with local face. There has to be clear propagation in areas where ROLs/EJs are doing active work. ROLs/EJs hide themselves behind poverty laws, SC/ST acts, minority and anti-Hindu laws.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Sachin » 19 Nov 2019 13:20

ShyamSP wrote:Problem with BJP in AP has is they don't want to get dirt on their hands to deal with local issues. If one has local issue they can go to a YCP leader to get it solved, same thing would have happened if TDP was in power.

Replace AP with KL, YCP with INC and TDP with CPI(M) - ditto is the situation in Kerala :). The BJP state level leadership is a big vaccum. As we say as a joke, BJP's stance in Kerala is like a water snake stating that he & a cobra (Modi et.al) managed to kill a human being.

Another problem BJP has is they use tactics of Hindu-ROP in Northern states for Hindu-ROL.

+1 here again. The BJP as a national party I feel should do more research on the way Southern states operate. I am sure that they can pull this through provided they actually get a more efficient and reliable leadership (or at least informers) in the southern states. In the context of KL; both the minority religions operate in a very different way. Outright violence is shunned by both the communities. But they influence the society through educational facilities, business groups, media management and being pressure groups on other "secular" parties. Unless this modus operandi is understood - along with the psyche of Hindus in the area - BJP may not be able to progress as a Hindu party in the south.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Kashi » 19 Nov 2019 13:45

Sachin wrote:+1 here again. The BJP as a national party I feel should do more research on the way Southern states operate. I am sure that they can pull this through provided they actually get a more efficient and reliable leadership (or at least informers) in the southern states. In the context of KL; both the minority religions operate in a very different way. Outright violence is shunned by both the communities. But they influence the society through educational facilities, business groups, media management and being pressure groups on other "secular" parties. Unless this modus operandi is understood - along with the psyche of Hindus in the area - BJP may not be able to progress as a Hindu party in the south.


RSS supposedly has a substantial number of Shakhas in Southern states; this is often brought up in the context of KL. Then why this leadership vaccum?

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Postby arshyam » 19 Nov 2019 13:47

ShyamSP wrote:Another problem BJP has is they use tactics of Hindu-ROP in Northern states for Hindu-ROL. ROP issue is on the face issue and sometimes violent like North Indians face where as ROL issue is subtle and sophisticated frog-in-slow-boiling-pot. Recent #SaveHindusFromJaganReddy and pic-video-sharing like propagandas are limited unless such tactics are long-drawn and done with local face. There has to be clear propagation in areas where ROLs/EJs are doing active work. ROLs/EJs hide themselves behind poverty laws, SC/ST acts, minority and anti-Hindu laws.

I think you are onto something here. This is same problem in TN, and KL as Sachin saar has said. It's no coincidence that the only southern state with a good BJP presence is KA - where the RoL problem is the least in the south, and the RoP aggressiveness is not trivial. So the BJP's tried and tested tactics seem to have worked there. Similarly, TS with its aggressive razakarite politicians seems to be the next BJP foothold in the south, if the 2019 LS elections are anything to go by.

Having said that, what would be a good strategy to deal with this?

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Sachin » 19 Nov 2019 15:17

Kashi wrote:RSS supposedly has a substantial number of Shakhas in Southern states; this is often brought up in the context of KL. Then why this leadership vaccum?

From what I understand; in KL BJP leaders who came up the rank via RSS Shakhas is limited. I am willing to be corrected, and this itself can be a croud-sourcing effort :). RSS at least in Kerala, generally remains a 99.9% social organisation. They are interested in the shakhas, mentoring of youth who turn up there and doing social service etc. They generally keep pure politics (the vote couting types) at an arm's distance. From what I understand RSS senior cadre are good organisers, and knowledgable individuals; but they are not the "political leadership" kind of people. They may not have that cunningness to make a person vote for them.

arshyam wrote:Having said that, what would be a good strategy to deal with this?

In KL, RSS as an organisation has been able to make an impact. That they are a force to reckon with is proved the way the commies and islamic terror outfits have been targetting RSS cadre, more than the BJP politics-wallahs. They don't have much to worry on the Hindu-BJP politician (say an O.Rajagopal) but they do worry about a Hindu-RSS leader (like Valsan Thillankery). In the southern states the BIF uses a strategy of brain washing and slowly weaning away the general populace from the majority religion. That is encourage people to ignore their own culture, tradition, belief system etc. And RSS generally lays emphasise on the retention of the very same thing. In KL; commies have been the experts in weaning away the majority community from their own culture & faith sytem. And RSS has been able to make some impact on stopping/reducing the same. The only way forward would be more regular, routine and thorough exposing of the "secular" parties. From my own experience; maximum folks who leaned away from communism were people who realised their attitude towards other organised religions. The good strategy is not really easy :(. On one hand, the BJP at a national level need to ensure that the "seculars" in the state are unable to use the agencies under their control to undermine the majority religion. Plus RSS and the BJP also need to ensure that RSS and affiliates are also able to make more deeper inroads, and make an impact on the Hindu society. But first and foremost; Sangh Parivar should have a South India specific strategy (which I do hope they really have).

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Yagnasri » 19 Nov 2019 15:24

My view on the reasons for "failure" of BJP in the southen states:

We have to understand BJP never tried to expand in many states on its own before 2014. That includes critical states like MH, Bihar, WB etc. South is no exception. It is only now it is seriously trying. Too little time to grow the party.

Secondly in most of the South there are already two or three strong parties with considerable vote shares. In that situation it would be very difficult for BJP a relatively non serious contender for decades to grow.

1. In Undivided AP it had some 6 MPs at one point of time. But whenever it is becoming strong there it allied with TDP and fell back into near Zero. Going alone in Telangana it has 4 MPs out of 17 now.

2. KL is gone due to Communist lovers and minority vote share.

3. TN with two very strong set of political groups there is little scope for a third set of parties to grow.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Karthik S » 19 Nov 2019 15:35

All BJP has to do in TN and AP is expose EJ mafia. Atleast help people like Maridhas, Madan etc overtly or covertly. Have slight hope on TN as people there are somewhat dharmic, even though highly casteist. Far too long EJs have been able to operate stealthily but now are more brazen, may be they have reached a critical population.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Sachin » 19 Nov 2019 16:47

Yagnasri wrote:2. KL is gone due to Communist lovers and minority vote share.

What the communists have been able to prove is that Hinduism was the biggest problem for Kerala, and that was what messed up with state's path to progress. They repeat this theory ad-nauseum as they have a good eco system via the educational establishments and media. This agenda for communist survival also helps the other two organised minority religion to further their agenda.

An average Keralite sits on top of a carefully built and maintained bubble; of "intellectual superiority" (100% literacy sham), monetory prosperity (Gelf based income), and a decent system of education (which is also a good propaganda machinery). More would be the false pride if that person also gets an okay job in the state and is assured of a salary. So any attempt to bring sense to the people would require some efforts to make people realise that even with 100% literacy unemployement rates are very high. Use FEMA & IT Act to effectively bring down the hawala/black money based economy. Right now the main stream media outlets in KL clearly take a stance that KL is some kind of a different territory where rest of India's law & politics does NOT work. This needs to be changed. Kashmiris also had same thoughts, and today we clearly know what would be the final outcome of such thoughts.

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Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Peregrine » 19 Nov 2019 17:29

Sabarimala: 12-year-old girl barred from proceeding to Lord Ayyappa temple

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- 12-year-old girl stopped, accompanying family members allowed to proceed to Sabarimala temple

- Two more women in the age group of 10-50 years stopped on Monday, at least 10 young women from Andhra Pradesh sent back on Saturday

- A Kerala minister has said Sabarimala was not a place for activism, and the govt would not encourage such women who want to visit the shrine for publicity

SABARIMALA: A 12-year-old girl from Puducherry, who had come for darshan to Lord Ayyappa temple here along with her father, was not allowed to proceed to the shrine from Pamba on Tuesday morning.

The age of the girl, with "irrumudikettu" (offerings to Lord Ayyappa) had been shown as 10 in the virtual Q booking.

Women police examined the girl's aadhar cardand found that she was 12 years old and refused to allow her to proceed further from Pamba to the shrine complex, police said.

After those accompanying the child were informed about the current situation in Sabarimala, her father and other relatives proceeded to the temple.

Supporting the shrine's tradition, a nine-year-old Keralite girl, who came to the temple complex from Karnataka on Monday, had a placard around her neck inscribed with the words "Ready to wait. Will visit the shrine after attaining 50 years."

Hailing fromThrissur, Hridyakrishnan said she had visited the shrine thrice and would have darshan of Lord Ayyappa only after she reaches 50.

Her father, Harikrishnan had said devotees are those who protect traditions and beliefs

While two women in the barred age group of 10-50 years had been stopped by police on Monday from visiting the hill shrine, on Saturday, when the temple opened, at least 10 young women from Andhra Pradesh had been sent back.

The Pamba base camp is at the foothills of Sabarimala, about 5 km from the shrine.

The Lord Ayyappa temple had opened on November 16 evening for the two month long Mandala-Makaravillakku pilgrimage season.

The state and temple precincts had witnessed protests by right wing outfits and BJP workers last year after the LDF government decided to implement the Supreme court's verdict of September 28, 2018 allowing women of all age groups to offer prayers at the shrine.

However, this year, even though the top court had not stayed its verdict on entry of young women into the shrine while posting various petitions on the matter to a larger bench, the government was exercising caution.

Devaswom Minister Kadakampally Surendran has made it clear that Sabarimala was not a place for activists to display their activism and said the government would not encourage such women who want to visit the shrine for publicity.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby vishvak » 19 Nov 2019 17:42

Her father, Harikrishnan had said devotees are those who protect traditions and beliefs

The entire litigating has missed the fact prolly that elderly women are allowed and wouldn't the elderly women object if something was 'wrong'; few have given such opinions directly from elderly women. But hindu women have been in misery at each stage (separately seperated) viz child marriage, dowry, and so on.


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Postby Rony » 19 Nov 2019 20:47

venkat_r wrote:BJP lost that opportunity, or rather did not care when CBN was an in the coalition, BJP’s strategy has been to cannibalize their coalition


Pot calling the kettle black ? BJP has it own faults like lack of mass leaders or cadres or a coherent strategy but it is also a fact that it was CBN which made sure that BJP does not grow in AP during his infamous "alliance".
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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 19 Nov 2019 20:49

On the case regarding Converted Christian MLA Vundavalli Sridevi falsely claiming herself as SC category

https://twitter.com/lawinforce/status/1 ... 6613515264

AP Christian MLA False Affidavit & SC Status Misuse Case:

Based on our complaint the Addl Dist Magistrate & Joint Collector (Guntur) ordered MLA Vundavalli Sridevi to attend enquiry regarding her community claim.

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Postby ShyamSP » 19 Nov 2019 23:23



He is going all-out for Christian votebank consolidation. YCP estimate is their solid votebanks fetch 50-60 constituencies easily and all they need to work on some 20 extra seats to rule.

YCP is selling Government, temple, Institutions' lands/assets to distribute as welfare programs but not investing in new money creation. Once you make people poor with less avenues, people become more dependent on doles and they can force to vote YCP.

On recovering election spending and all the money YCP people spent on buying votes, they already created some artificial crises in money fetch-able areas such as Sand, liquor, etc. They already made a lot of money by round-tripping sand and liquor. There is news today that they even are cutting number of liquor shops presumably opponents' so they can control money and also can convert Mandhu Babulu (drunkards) as votebanks.

They kicked out many development, infra, and startup investments and projects including ones done by foreign governments and investors so they'll have tough time to attract large investments and banks to give loans (SBI already refused I think for some loan). Within 6 months they brought entire development to halt.

AP is officially in dogs with no prospects for development. As they say it takes long time to build but short time to destroy. Hopefully YCP enablers are understanding and watching developments. May be whole strategy is bring AP to dogs and bottom of states list, then they can ask for special status with legitimacy. :)

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Postby Rony » 20 Nov 2019 03:47

ShyamSP wrote:Hopefully YCP enablers are understanding and watching developments. May be whole strategy is bring AP to dogs and bottom of states list, then they can ask for special status with legitimacy.


As if without "YCP enablers" the corrupt, incompetent and unpopular TDP would have come back to power and as if TDP was better than YCP either with EJs or dealing with numerous mafias (sand, liquor, land) :rotfl:

The whole strategy of TDP people after their humiliating loss seems to be first to resurrect baseless allegations of BJP supporting YCP and then to guilt trip BJP based on those invented allegations. They never talk about how CBN went out of the alliance for his selfish ends and openly supported Congress and third front. Had Karma did not taught CBN a lesson, TDP people would have continued to appease EJs and continue looting the state.

The difference between YCP and TDP is YCP is like ROP - blatant on the face regarding EJs and corruption. While TDP is like ROL, it does the same thing but beneath the table with less noise.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ramana » 20 Nov 2019 06:58

Guys disengage.
Telugu states are going thru terrible times and the solution is not to find blame but the path ahead.

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Postby Sachin » 20 Nov 2019 21:39

Draft special law for Sabarimala within 4 weeks: SC.
This order came after a different bench (Mr Justice Ramana and Mr Justice Gawai) heard a petition from the Pandalam Royal Family et.al. The communist government had a grand plan to put up a new law to manage temples (instead of the The Travancore-Cochin Hindu Religious Institutions (Amendment) Act, 1994). They even thought about having women in the management boards (which is good), but with an ulterior motive also to use "gender equality" to sabotage temples like Sabari Mala.

So now commies get 4 weeks to draft a unique law for Sabari Mala. And this is when the "bone of contention" (i.e young women's entry to the hill shrine) is still pending in the courts. Which means the new law cannot have any grand provisions to mess up the temple. And when such law gets reviewed by Supreme Court the petitioners can still challenge the provisions as well.

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Postby Rony » 21 Nov 2019 00:05

Centre cancels citizenship of TRS MLA Chennamaneni Ramesh who once held German passport for Misrepresenting Facts

Ramesh, who has been representing Vemulawada assembly constituency in newly-formed Rajanna Siricilla district (part of erstwhile Karimnagar), for the last three terms, is the nephew of former Maharashtra governor Ch Vidyasagar Rao. Ramesh’s father late Ch Rajeshwar Rao was a veteran Communist leader and five-time-MLA who later defected to the Telugu Desam Party.

Ramesh had gone to Germany for employment in early 1990s and obtained German citizenship in 1993, when he surrendered his Indian passport. In 2008, he returned to India and applied for Indian citizenship which was granted to him by the MHA. He won the election from Vemulawada assembly constituency in 2009 elections.

As per the Citizenship Act, a person who applies for an Indian citizenship should be present in India at least for 12 months before the date of application. But, a local leader Adi Srinivas who contested against him, complained to the MHA stating that Ramesh still held the German passport and had gone to Germany within this stipulated period of 12 months before being granted Indian citizenship.

A committee appointed by the ministry concluded that Ramesh had obtained the Indian citizenship by playing fraud upon the Government of India and concealing crucial material facts of his visits abroad during the last twelve months immediately preceding his application for Indian citizenship.

The MHA had earlier cancelled his citizenship in September 2017. However, he filed a review petition in the ministry and later moved the high court and obtained a stay order. Subsequently, he contested the assembly elections again in December 2018 and was elected from the same constituency for the third successive term.

The high court, which disposed of the case in July this year, referred the matter to MHA again. After conducting the enquiry, the MHA on Wednesday issued the order again, cancelling his citizenship.

Reacting on the MHA order cancelling his citizenship, Ramesh said he would once again move the high court to seek justice. “I will continue my legal battle till I get clean chit,” he said.

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Postby ramana » 21 Nov 2019 02:24

So Ch VidyasagarRao (ABVP/BJP) and CH Rajeshwara Rao (CPM and TDP) are brothers?
Wow talk about hedging.

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Postby Rony » 21 Nov 2019 07:10

Meanwhile in Kerala

Orthodox vs Jacobites in Kerala: Body of BSF Jawan not allowed inside Piravom church, funeral turns chaotic

The feud between the Jacobite and the Orthodox faction over the ownership and entry into Churches in Kerala seems to be getting worse over the period of time. Recently, the two factions once again came face to face after the Orthodox faction did not allow funeral rites of a BSF Jawan belonging to the Jacobite faction in Ernakulam on Monday.

“As per the SC order, St Mary’s Church, which was earlier under the aegis of Jacobites is now under the Orthodox faction’s control. The funeral rites of the jawan were held in another church on Monday. But as per the request of the jawan’s family through police mediation, the priest of St Mary’s Church agreed to bury his body at the church’s cemetery. But things went out of control as the Jacobite faction forcibly tried to carry the body inside St Mary’s Church,” an official at Piravom police station told The News Minute.

This is, however, not the first time. There have been several such cases of fights over burials of believers between the two factions. In such instances, the bodies of the deceased are kept frozen for days together as the family struggles to get them buried.

Earlier this month, a 91-year-old deceased woman was denied burial rights after a difference of opinion erupted between the members of the Malankara Orthodox Church and the Jacobite Syrian Church over their right to conduct the rituals of the deceased.

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Postby chetak » 21 Nov 2019 14:15

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Guess what happened to the ₹1789 crores Kerala got from the @WorldBank to #RebuildKerala post the floods of 2018? Kerala FM @drthomasisaac used it for routine expenses like salaries and pensions. And he is justifying that!


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Postby Rony » 21 Nov 2019 19:30

Rajinikanth Says People of Tamil Nadu Will 'Ensure a Miracle' in 2021 Assembly Elections in State

The actor's response was to a query about an AIADMK leader insisting Rajinikanth's "spiritual politics" was not possible in the "Dravida land" of Tamil Nadu. Incidentally, AIADMK mouthpiece 'Namathu Amma' carried an article on Thursday saying Rajinikanth's "spiritual politics" and Kamal Haasan's pro-Left leanings cannot go hand-in-hand in the event of them aligning politically.

Rajinikanth's comments came days after both him and Kamal aasan indicated they are open to joining hands for the betterment of the people of the state if the need arises.

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Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 00:09

ramana wrote:S. Jayapal Reddy was Osmania Student Union (OSU) leader in 1968. he led a big strike.

Next year Telangana agitation began and gave prominence to goonda leaders in OSU modeled on Jayapal Reddy
Chief among was a 33 year old medical college student T. Mallikarjun.
He later became a Union Minister of State.

George Reddy rein of terror started after that.

One big problem was the OU would allow these people to enroll for years on end and stay in the hostels.

* At the center Mrs IG was quite weak and allowed CPI leaders to join Congress. This was called infiltration strategy.
One Congress leader with hardcore CPI background was the backer for George Reddy and his group.
He had a brother Cyril and another who was a govt officer in Punjab.



More details of that commie goonda George reddy (whom AP christians are now trying to appropriate )from today's Andhra Bhoomi

http://www.andhrabhoomi.net/content/bhaskarvani-52

Looks like Jayapal Reddy was a commie inside and helped commies even when he moved to Delhi as union minister. After the death of this naxal george reddy, commies used his death to implicate RSS and ABVP. They even started insulting national flag in the universities. ABVP is the only force that withstood this commie menace and gave them back in equal measure. Now everyone from verma, commies, EJs to chiranjeevi clan are trying to make him a hero.

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Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 01:54

These cheap TDP sheep :rotfl:

https://twitter.com/AmatyaKautilya/stat ... 21728?s=20



Modus Operandi:

AP MPs raise issue of missing AP capital on the official map of India

MoS Kishan Reddy intervenes and effects the change

Yellow MP claims some credit as he slips in "his intervention"

Yellow sheep shower their MP, CBN with praise & never mention Kishan Reddy

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Postby ShyamSP » 23 Nov 2019 03:39

Rony wrote:These cheap TDP sheep :rotfl:

https://twitter.com/AmatyaKautilya/stat ... 21728?s=20



Modus Operandi:

AP MPs raise issue of missing AP capital on the official map of India

MoS Kishan Reddy intervenes and effects the change

Yellow MP claims some credit as he slips in "his intervention"

Yellow sheep shower their MP, CBN with praise & never mention Kishan Reddy

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What is cheap there?

I see in twitter message, MP Galla thanking home Minister of state Kishan Reddy. By the way, this map incident happened 2 weeks ago * when they released JK & Ladakh maps. As part of Home Ministry if they had done right way and/or corrected right away, He/BJP could take credit.

Now when MP raised it parliament then action was taken means credit should go to MP and his party (TDP in this case).

* viewtopic.php?p=2391986#p2391986

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 05:02

The capital issue was raised with Kishan Reddy by both Galla Jaydev from TDP and Mithun Reddy from YCP . See Kishan Reddy tagging both of them in his tweet. So the issue was raised in Bi-Partisan manner by both parties and the MoS home resolved it by his intervention. IF we are talking about credits, it should go for all 3 individuals. But that TDP genes are always trying to project 1 Rs for their 33 paise work :D

This was always the issue with TDP. even when they were in that phoney alliance with BJP. Everything good is solely because of them and everything bad is solely because of others. Even when they were distributing central schemes when in govt, they never gave equal credit to Modi or BJP and when Jagan cornered them with his special status propaganda, instead of fighting him and defending the alliance, they took the easy route and quickly threw Modi/BJP under the bus to save themselves.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 23 Nov 2019 05:31

Rony wrote:The capital issue was raised with Kishan Reddy by both Galla Jaydev from TDP and Mithun Reddy from YCP . See Kishan Reddy tagging both of them in his tweet. So the issue was raised in Bi-Partisan manner by both parties and the MoS home resolved it by his intervention. IF we are talking about credits, it should go for all 3 individuals. But that TDP genes are always trying to project 1 Rs for their 33 paise work :D

This was always the issue with TDP. even when they were in that phoney alliance with BJP. Everything good is solely because of them and everything bad is solely because of others. Even when they were distributing central schemes when in govt, they never gave equal credit to Modi or BJP and when Jagan cornered them with his special status propaganda, instead of fighting him and defending the alliance, they took the easy route and quickly threw Modi/BJP under the bus to save themselves.



If TDP MP is first to raise Amaravati issue it is their initiative.
(by the way they seem to have dropped "h" as is done in South spelling and now MH and AP Amaravari have same towns)

On YCP side they are arguing against Amaravati and making abusive statement and now put a person (YSR family member) to study for new Capitol. They don't get credit on that aspect.
Kishan Reddy should have taken care of 2 weeks ago and made statement, then he/BJP would have gotten credit.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 05:58

Yeah right. TDP did not even notify Amavarati as capital in the first place. Survey of India going by book did not mention it in their map. TDP MP and YCP MP raise the issue. BJP MoS personally intervenes and make sure the new map is issued. But TDP alone which was responsible for this in the first place should get all credit and BJP minister who personally intervened to rectify it should not. TDP logic :rotfl:

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 08:42

From Coupta's rag. This is what i call Opportunistic Hindutva

TDP reaches out to BJP with a ‘Hindutva makeover’ — targets Christian Jagan Mohan Reddy

“We, in the TDP, respect all religions unlike the YSRCP, which manipulates religion to advance its vote bank agenda,” Anuradha added.

“Neither are we advancing Hindutva agenda like the BJP. We are only appealing to Jagan and his people to respect Hindu faith and customs.”

Analysts say the strategy may not really help the TDP. “Naidu has no love for BJP nor could his policy ever be Hindutva,” Dr Ch. Shankar Rao, a political analyst, said.

“The TDP’s seemingly pro-Hindu stand is only to gain advantage from some of Jagan’s supposedly pro-Christian decisions. If Naidu could allure the BJP in this process, he regains a powerful friend, sooner or later, to deal with formidable Jagan.”


But AP BJP (which itself is utterly useless) is for a change talking correctly.

“Struggling to keep his stock intact and stay relevant, Naidu has now resorted to pro-Hindu issues. But such a phoney stand would not help him since as CM he too did things like demolition of temples in Vijayawada for Krishna pushkaram (a Kumbh mela-like event) works. The state-sponsored Jerusalem tour advertisements on APSRTC bus tickets at Tirupati were also from Naidu’s time,” Madhav said referring to the controversy over allegations of proselytisation in Tirupati after Jagan became CM.

“Both Naidu and Jagan have proved to be anti-Hindu...” the BJP leader said.



Not to generalize but Kamma's only hope in AP if they ever want to take power from Jagan Reddy again is to ditch CBN and TDP completely and go full Hindutva and join BJP. The same goes for Kapus. No PK or anything. Go Hindutva and join BJP. But i dont see that strategic thinking in either of them. Their non-Hindutva caste based parties are useless before Jagan's caste(reddy's) + EJs (who keep growing from all castes) + Islamist juggernaut.
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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Aditya_V » 23 Nov 2019 08:57

I guess Nice term for Dilip Ghosh, Togodia, SHiv Sena, TDP etc- Opportunistic Hindus, who want Hinduism to serve their private purpose rather than the general upliftment of the nation.

These people will always work with the left to demonize Hindus so that they can never develop and uplift themselves. Attacking Valentines day, creating false Hindu attrocities etc to feed the Left ecosystem.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby saip » 23 Nov 2019 09:49

Amaravathi is still the capital? I thought Jagan Mohan Reddy wants to shift the capital to Donakonda.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 22:27

Licking started :rotfl:

N Chandrababu Naidu
@ncbn
Dear Sri
@AmitShahJi, truly appreciate your esteemed office’s quick redressal of the issue related to Amaravati not being mentioned on India’s map. You have endeared yourself to Telugu people by taking this step.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby ShyamSP » 23 Nov 2019 22:31

saip wrote:Amaravathi is still the capital? I thought Jagan Mohan Reddy wants to shift the capital to Donakonda.


Apparently so. YCP wants "Mongol style Capitals" and move it to another area where "Khan" moves to make "money" to recover the amount distributed in election. BJP is looking for "Gazettes" and "credits" according Rony Garu. Suddenly when it came to "credit", "Gazette" was not needed for change.


Rony wrote:Licking started :rotfl:

N Chandrababu Naidu
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Dear Sri
@AmitShahJi, truly appreciate your esteemed office’s quick redressal of the issue related to Amaravati not being mentioned on India’s map. You have endeared yourself to Telugu people by taking this step.


You said BJP wanted credit but when it is given now it is licking :rotfl:
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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 22:38

ShyamSP wrote: BJP is looking for "Gazettes" and "credits" according Rony Garu.


Comon ShyamSP garu, thats not what i said. I brought up the 'credit' angle here and refuting it only after TDP bhakts in SM started taking about 'credits' and how only TDP should get it. As part of that refutation i talked about how TDP made the mess in the first place without issuing the gazettes.

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Rony » 23 Nov 2019 22:40

ShyamSP wrote:
You said BJP wanted credit but when it is given now it is licking :rotfl:


There is a disconnect between how CBN is behaving (licking and all) and how his supporters are behaving ( still demonizing Modi/Shah. Claiming all credits to CBN/TDP). It was that disconnect that is amusing :D

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Re: Kerala, Andhra and Tamil Nadu - news and strategy thread

Postby Vayutuvan » 25 Nov 2019 03:29

ShyamSP wrote:(by the way they seem to have dropped "h" as is done in South spelling and now MH and AP Amaravari have same towns)


Both spelling and pronunciation are different for those two towns.

MH - amraavati or even umraavati
AP - amaraavathi, now amaraavati


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