2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby williams » 28 May 2019 11:00

Kashi wrote:
KL Dubey wrote:Why disturb it ? I don't think any nationalist wants a rejuvenated INC in the next 5 years at least.


I think the CWC members wouldn't want that because it would mean the end of their cushy-comfy situations, by forcing them to make way for leaders with grassroots appeal.


You need Congress to expose the many BIF groups in India and for plain entertainment. Losing Pappu in the helm of affairs will be very sad. :rotfl:

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby abhijitm » 28 May 2019 11:04

RG is tired of being accused of cong defeats. So he needs new scapegoat he can sacrifice after future defeats. He definitely can't continue to be accountable in public eyes. He is following pak army doctrine.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 28 May 2019 11:13

Guys let's worry about them in second half of 2023. Let's look forward to what radical changes government can bring in such as GST, demo, surgical strikes etc.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby abhijitm » 28 May 2019 11:15

News18 just cited cctv footage of that Gurugram skull cap incident confirming it was a fake propaganda. Apparently they have released news in their hindi version, no word in English.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Kashi » 28 May 2019 11:19

williams wrote:You need Congress to expose the many BIF groups in India and for plain entertainment. Losing Pappu in the helm of affairs will be very sad. :rotfl:


Some of the recent op-eds also gave the game away. One Suhas Palshikar responding to YY in IE, claimed that Congress was needed for the "fringe, radical elements" to "mainstream" themselves and their ideas.

https://indianexpress.com/article/opini ... p-5741245/

Yet, this Congress would have its uses in times of crisis of democracy. The Yogendra Yadavs, Prakash Rajs, Kamal Haasans and Kanhaiya Kumars, despite the goodwill they enjoy, need larger social acceptability beyond their immediate circles in order to be operational.

India’s democracy does not easily admit a liberal fringe or a radical liberal extravaganza. Nor is there enough space for an autonomous but healthy politics of “alternatives”. The politics of alternatives seeks to mainstream itself by changing society in the first place. Until society changes for the better, such politics has to piggy-back on political forces that occupy the mainstream. So, in seeking an end to the Congress, Yadav is probably undermining the feasibility of his own politics. This may sound an instrumentalist argument, but the politics of change also needs political support, a political vehicle, a sympathetic political mass. But beyond this instrumental logic, are there other reasons to plead for the survival of the Congress?


So it's very clear, the infiltration of the self-styled "goodwill enjoying" elements into INC will continue as they try and "mainstream" their "politics, alternatives and ideas".

Like Kulkarni, they will not confine themselves to Congress alone.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby vimal » 28 May 2019 11:29

abhijitm wrote:News18 just cited cctv footage of that Gurugram skull cap incident confirming it was a fake propaganda. Apparently they have released news in their hindi version, no word in English.


Here is the link and clearly it was a minor altercation with no religious angel. Not to mention the eskimo was lying as usual.

https://hindi.news18.com/news/nation/gu ... 46403.html

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Kashi » 28 May 2019 11:30

Karthik S wrote:Guys let's worry about them in second half of 2023. Let's look forward to what radical changes government can bring in such as GST, demo, surgical strikes etc.


Swarajya has a few suggestions in their latest writeup

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/the-ec ... -looked-at

Shoring Liquidity and Credit Uptake - PSB Recapitalisation
Tiding The Crisis of Confidence in Non-Banking Financial Companies (NBFCs)
Cost Of Capital
Agriculture, SME/MSME and Real Estate Support
Labour Reforms
Make-in-India Opportunity

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 28 May 2019 11:42

One may add regulating real estate and education. Ridiculous prices for both. Not worth the money as well. All the money ends up in some or the other politician.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Kashi » 28 May 2019 11:44

The new education policy is set to be announced, hopefully it will tackle some of these concerns.

Real estate will require tweaking of many laws, FAR regulations etc.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby ani_sharma » 28 May 2019 11:47

abhijitm wrote:I am highly impressed with Tejaswi Surya. Lambi race ka ghoda hai (has long term prospect).

He needs to learn more.. he is strong in content and attitude, but less exposure to handling urban naxals.
I saw a debate between him and kanhaiya after he was announced as candidate from BLR south.. frankly he was bulldozed by kanhaiya.
But neverthless.. i agree he is lambi race ka ghoda.. he can learn.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Muns » 28 May 2019 11:48

Folks, having done a google search when it comes to Modi News, the Western media is completely ape with the same old story of Hindu nationalism and the next five years offering the usual insecurities to minorities. Off my head I tried to see if I could take on some of these arguments and bring a different sense of perspective to the Same ol Same ol..... Templated response of the Western media.

So here goes, tried to get it done rather quickly today.

Why the West has got it all wrong about Modi.

https://www.india-aware.com/featured/wh ... bout-modi/

For decades now India has been a victim or state-sponsored terrorism across the border with international countries who themselves have launched preemptive strikes lecturing India exactly the opposite. India has been on the global terrorism index top 10 for at least the last seven years since it first came out with thousands dying directly or indirectly. After the gruesome terrorist attacks involving the Army, Modi finally took the call to preemptively strike at terror camps across the border. Unfortunately, this act of self-defense has been labeled as Hindu nationalism, because as far as the Western media can remember India has been better placed to lie down and die in a Gandhian way.


In a country of over a billion people, it seems that they will inevitably be unfortunate people in the crossfire. However, it seems that the media when it comes to minorities is extremely selective. While it is unfortunate that such events do occur, we should try to remain logical in knowing that such events involving racism occur the world over. Such selective journalists the world over will often hide or just not be aware all gruesome killings involving Hindus, with the recent example of Dhruv Tyagi massacred with the butcher knife, being the latest example. Tens of Hindus have died over the last month especially secondary to religious violence in the states of minority dominated areas in West Bengal and even Kerala. The list sometimes seems to be exhaustive, but none of this is barely ever reported, yet the converse to smear Modi often is.


Modi may be a great Orator, and he may speak to Hindus with nationalistic spirit. Five years ago, He came with one of the largest mandates that democratic India has ever seen. Five years on he has broken his own record, not by negative intentions of creating disharmony but on the back of his own will to see that the disenfranchised, downtrodden and poverty stricken have something greater to look forward to.

Fortunately, the Indian voter has been able to see the distinction. He is not colored by the smear of “Hindu Nationalism”



http://www.india-aware.com
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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Narad » 28 May 2019 12:57

williams wrote:You need Congress to expose the many BIF groups in India and for plain entertainment. Losing Pappu in the helm of affairs will be very sad. :rotfl:

We must not allow this to become a Prithviraj-Ghauri magnanimity moment. Family need to be ousted from the helm of affairs of the party. Even a 0.0001% chance of pappu being the PM some day is not at all acceptable.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby vimal » 28 May 2019 13:19

But Pappu is the star campaigner for BJP.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 28 May 2019 13:27

He is like 20 years younger than NM. What if he is in a serious contention after NM passes the baton? Do we want him to PM in 2039?

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby siqir » 28 May 2019 13:44

cgtn america discussion on election which surprisingly has 100k+ views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic-OCsOHqEs

kudos to ritika bhattacharya of swaniti for projecting a positive image of indian women and modi sarkaar initiatives which led them to vote in large numbers

srinivas t also had positive message on economy banks npa demo gst etc

georgetown lady came up with outright lie that initiatives like toilets had not scaled amidst other usual fud

swamy sez india will balance between america and china and put up decent list of reasons for the victory
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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Kashi » 28 May 2019 13:57

siqir wrote:toilets had not scaled


Whatever does that mean??

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby siqir » 28 May 2019 14:00

initiative had not scaled

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Lilo » 28 May 2019 14:08

siqir wrote:cgtn america discussion on election which surprisingly has 100k+ views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic-OCsOHqEs

kudos to ritika bhattacharya of swaniti for projecting a positive image of indian women and modi sarkaar initiatives which led them to vote in large numbers

srinivas t also had positive message on economy banks npa demo gst etc

georgetown lady came up with outright lie that initiatives like toilets had not scaled amidst other usual fud

swamy sez india will balance between america and china and put up decent list of reasons for the victory




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic-OCsOHqEs

CGTN (China Global Television Network), formerly known as CCTV-9 and CCTV News, is a Chinese international English-language news channel of the State-owned China Global Television Network group, part of the China Central Television (CCTV), based in Beijing. The service is aimed at the overseas market, similar to DD India, WION, BBC World News, NHK World-Japan, DW, France 24 and RT.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Shaktimaan » 28 May 2019 14:26

ani_sharma wrote:
abhijitm wrote:I am highly impressed with Tejaswi Surya. Lambi race ka ghoda hai (has long term prospect).

He needs to learn more.. he is strong in content and attitude, but less exposure to handling urban naxals.
I saw a debate between him and kanhaiya after he was announced as candidate from BLR south.. frankly he was bulldozed by kanhaiya.
But neverthless.. i agree he is lambi race ka ghoda.. he can learn.


Saar here is the fact of the matter:
Tejaswi Surya won his election by 3.3 lakh votes

Kanhaiyya "Tukde Tukde" Kumar lost his election by more than 4 lakh votes.

So who bulldozed whom ultimately?

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Dumal » 28 May 2019 14:35

siqir wrote:
swamy sez india will balance between america and china and put up decent list of reasons for the victory


SuSwa also looks and sounds aged, not very spontaneous, somewhat misspeaking such as calling triple talaq progress etc as "dividing the minorities". Overall, I think it is time for him to retire and especially stop talking on behalf of BJP. At best he can be a Governor for a NE state or a safe BJP-ruled state like GJ.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby siqir » 28 May 2019 15:04

my only issue with swamy is he did not apologize properly for threatening to send army to sabarimalai

otherwise if he can juice economy to 10 percent growth and show quick results dont see a problem

would also like to see anil bokil somewhere but he seems put in cold storage maybe unfairly

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby hanumadu » 28 May 2019 17:12

RG should go. If the family is no longer in control, the ecosystem will not be so keen to defend them anymore and they can be sent to prison. Congress party itself will break into a thousand pieces if family is not in control.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby hanumadu » 28 May 2019 17:14

Kashi wrote:
Karthik S wrote:Guys let's worry about them in second half of 2023. Let's look forward to what radical changes government can bring in such as GST, demo, surgical strikes etc.


Swarajya has a few suggestions in their latest writeup

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/the-ec ... -looked-at

Shoring Liquidity and Credit Uptake - PSB Recapitalisation
Tiding The Crisis of Confidence in Non-Banking Financial Companies (NBFCs)
Cost Of Capital
Agriculture, SME/MSME and Real Estate Support
Labour Reforms
Make-in-India Opportunity


Land Acquisition Bill can finally be amended after 2020 I guess if NDA gets majority. Hopefully this year itself with support from others.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby darshan » 28 May 2019 17:16

Sagrawal wrote:
vimal wrote:You've been warned!


This Lassi shop is next to my paternal home. The sad part is all nearby shops are owned by Hindus but no one dared to interfere and pounce on attackers. There were women in the mob too.


This is pretty much the same everywhere I believe. It was the same while I grew up in Gujarat where handful of muslims would easily kill and terrorize hundreds of Hindus. This was decades ago and now is lot worse. They could because even though they were handful, in matter of hours they can enlist others from various other towns and cities which something Hindus are incapable of. Even in those days, muslims could easily gather weapons and all Hindus would have was sticks. Police wouldn't do anything even with knowledge of how the script would play out step by step. If anything, I have seen police help muslims out by picking up aggressive Hindus but never muslims. With no aggressive Hindus, it was simply arrive kill Hindus and leave with no fear of even a scratch. For example, it wasn't that hard to stop incoming muslims from nearby towns. Mind you this was decades ago with handful muslims and now things are lot worse. My family since before the independence have been involved in helping families with children relocate out of the buffer zones so lot of it has been seen closely way too often. These sort of events has made me pro guns to level the playing field. When you know that you're going to die then at least you want the ability to take few with you.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby harish_ch » 28 May 2019 17:28

Deleted..Posted in AP watch thread

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Shaktimaan » 28 May 2019 17:34

52 Councillors and 3 MLAs of Mamata didi's Trinamool Congress joined the BJP in New Delhi today.

Chanakyabhai Shah doesn't rest for a single day. The Bengal state election campaign has begun already.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Karan M » 28 May 2019 19:40

Have any details emerged of NDA v2.0 plans?

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby ramana » 28 May 2019 20:12

Stalin said he would support United South India demand. And hoped there would be such a demand.
Sad TN gave him and Congress such a huge mandate.

How come RaGa is not being asked if he supports Stalin stance?

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby ramana » 28 May 2019 20:13

Karan M wrote:Have any details emerged of NDA v2.0 plans?


Come again?


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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby ramana » 28 May 2019 20:40

TN owes 4 lakh crores of debt. And Stalin talks of secession. 8)

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 28 May 2019 20:55

TN will say we central govt robs us of our tax, for each tax rupee collected, TN gets 40 paise only. TN memes gang is very cunning, whatever reason you present they'll twist it and play victim.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby IndraD » 28 May 2019 21:08

Any chanakian explanation of Modi's outreach to Muslims? What do we interpret from Sabka Vishwas (quite subjective)
quoting Al Jazeera cos this is how Gulf , London looks at Modi

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/05/ ... 36257.html
After landslide victory India's PM reaches out to Muslims, who fear they will continue to be target of Hindu hardliners.
usual suspects quoted in a Hinduphobic article

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby vinod » 28 May 2019 21:12

ramana wrote:TN owes 4 lakh crores of debt. And Stalin talks of secession. 8)


Stalin's quote is an old one, it seems. Not so old either, about an year back!

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 28 May 2019 21:14

May be he has to do for some quarters. What explains giving MP ticket to Sadhvi Pragya? But I do hope he does something on things that matter, FCRA, amending discriminatory articles etc.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Suraj » 28 May 2019 21:16

Sorry there is no point in analyzing Al Jazeera here , and I for one won’t give them a click. Sabka vishwas has nothing to do with Muslims - the term vishwas and bharosa has been repeatedly stated by voters and he is simply affirming that he has heard them . The commonest theme of the election was that voters stated they had trust in Modi .

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby mmasand » 28 May 2019 21:37

Suraj wrote:Sorry there is no point in analyzing Al Jazeera here , and I for one won’t give them a click. Sabka vishwas has nothing to do with Muslims - the term vishwas and bharosa has been repeatedly stated by voters and he is simply affirming that he has heard them . The commonest theme of the election was that voters stated they had trust in Modi .


Aljazeera is nothing but a mouthpiece of the MB, Hezbollah, Houthis and the likes. Nobody in the Gelf even sees their channel. Post the blockade, their transmission has been blocked across the GCC.

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby disha » 28 May 2019 23:32

I think one major result of the 2019 General elections has been missed by BRF.

This is major news :

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/government-invites-bimstec-leaders-for-swearing-in-ceremony-on-may-30/articleshow/69524582.cms

Government invites BIMSTEC leaders for swearing-in ceremony on May 30
BIMSTEC includes countries of the Bay of Bengal region and seeks to act as a bridge between South and Southeast Asia.


Plus Mauritius and Kyrghyztan.

SAARC IS DEAD THANKS TO BAKISTAN

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby Suraj » 29 May 2019 00:23

Ash Rockzz posted this on Twitter:

Rae Bareli 2009
INC 481490 72.23%
BSP 109325 16.4%
BJP 25444 3.82%

2014
INC 526434 63.8%
BJP 173721 21.05%
BSP 63633 7.71%

2019
INC 534918 55.8%
BJP 367740 38.36%

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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Postby mmasand » 29 May 2019 00:28

Rahul M wrote:meanwhile enjoy this epic trolling of MB as she comes out of Raj Bhawan.
https://twitter.com/mvmeet/status/1133422298000547840

Her facial expression is a sight to behold as people are shouting Jai Sriram to her. :rotfl: :rotfl:
I don't know if bjp was directly up to this, but if they were, kudos to them. It directly feeds into her paranoia and would lead to her making more mistakes.


Fake video Saar! It's an old video from February when she was talking to reporters. The expression worth watching will be when she shows up for the swearing in.


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