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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 17:44
by pankajs
IndraD wrote:Jaitley sir has retired for health reasons, he will be sorely missed! Su Swamy hoping for a ministry

SuSwamy is a loose cannon

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 17:49
by Karan M
SuSwamy is also not some spry youngster. I just hope he doesn't turn a Shourie. :roll:

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 17:50
by siqir
https://mobile.twitter.com/ARanganathan ... 5246068739

dude was prototype mani shankar aiyar

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 17:52
by Shaktimaan
I have nothing to say on the topic of RRMR, but I will say this : There were a few thousand sati deaths in some areas of the country, but the British-caused famines killed literally crores of Indians. But now the impression is, the British were enlightened rulers who saved the evil heathen Hindoos from sati.

We need strong historians to write correct history from a true Indian perspective.

Anyhoo this is off-topic and you'll hear no more from me.

In other news, Mamata Didi has cancelled her attendance at Modiji's swearing-in ceremony tomorrow because Modiji invited the families of BJP karyakartas killed in Bengal to the ceremony.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 18:01
by pankajs
Shaktimaan wrote:In other news, Mamata Didi has cancelled her attendance at Modiji's swearing-in ceremony tomorrow because Modiji invited the families of BJP karyakartas killed in Bengal to the ceremony.

Modi/Shah couldn't have asked for more of Mamta.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 18:04
by Kashi
While I am happy with the invite to families of the slain karyakarta from Bengal, wouldn't it have been more prudent to invite the families of karyakarta from other parts of the country that too lost their lives in the service of the party in these elections?

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 18:12
by srin
pankajs wrote:
IndraD wrote:Jaitley sir has retired for health reasons, he will be sorely missed! Su Swamy hoping for a ministry

SuSwamy is a loose cannon


That's an understatement. Please read the following interview and assess his chances for a cabinet berth leave alone FM'ship.

https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/subramanian-swamy-interview-bjp-would-have-got-only-160-seats-if-not-for-balakot_in_5cc83aafe4b02791823f020f?nt8

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 18:18
by Ramu
What happened to the 15 day notice given to RG for proving his nationality?

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 18:57
by nits
IMHO we are derailing this thread with historical inputs and disucssion

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 18:59
by nits
Ramu wrote:What happened to the 15 day notice given to RG for proving his nationality?



Supreme Court dismissed it

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 19:10
by chetak
Karan M wrote:SuSwamy is also not some spry youngster. I just hope he doesn't turn a Shourie. :roll:



not a ministry but he should be recognized in some way for the efforts that he has singlehandedly put in to corner many venomous political snakes and dynastic charlatans.


If that small thing is not done, he will turn and it will happen sooner rather than later.

this guy usually ticks like a swiss watch on normal days but he can also tick like a time bomb, if pushed to the wall.

better to have him in your tent pissing out rather than outside pissing in :mrgreen:

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 19:10
by Karan M
I agree, tired of losing in-house talent. Modi needs to take some oldies along, and manage their egos, in this case, because of the value they bring. Don't want Shourie/Sinha redux :(

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 19:14
by chetak
Karan M wrote:I agree, tired of losing in-house talent. Modi needs to take some oldies along, and manage their egos, in this case, because of the value they bring. Don't want Shourie/Sinha redux :(


even Modi will not be able to handle swamy in full cry if he is pushed to turn.

nobody can.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 19:16
by chetak
Karan M wrote:I agree, tired of losing in-house talent. Modi needs to take some oldies along, and manage their egos, in this case, because of the value they bring. Don't want Shourie/Sinha redux :(


murli manohar joshi to sort out the education reforms and the RTE mess.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 19:23
by chetak
Kashi wrote:While I am happy with the invite to families of the slain karyakarta from Bengal, wouldn't it have been more prudent to invite the families of karyakarta from other parts of the country that too lost their lives in the service of the party in these elections?


they already have 6500 guests, not to mention the drivers, assistants, chaprasis and other hangers on who will mysteriously turn up to "help" whenever there is a feast.

it is injudicious to mix these strata of society in the same place.

I have been to functions like this where there is a mad rush for the food and to grab "goodies" and with the inevitable jostlings and scrambling, an explosive situation is easily created leading to unwanted and very unpleasant consequences.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 19:31
by nits
chetak wrote:
Kashi wrote:While I am happy with the invite to families of the slain karyakarta from Bengal, wouldn't it have been more prudent to invite the families of karyakarta from other parts of the country that too lost their lives in the service of the party in these elections?


they already have 6500 guests, not to mention the drivers, assistants, chaprasis and other hangers on who will mysteriously turn up to "help" whenever there is a feast.

it is injudicious to mix these strata of society in the same place.

I have been to functions like this where there is a mad rush for the food and to grab "goodies" and with the inevitable jostlings and scrambling, an explosive situation is easily created leading to unwanted and very unpleasant consequences.


2014 ceremony was not a good showcase in terms of Program Management and experience of people who attended it; there were few articles in that regard - not able to get hands on links

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 20:21
by pankajs
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 501208.cms
Half of BJP’s additional MPs from SC/ST constituencies
An analysis of the reserved seats shows that the party has won 77 of 131 such constituencies this time as compared to 67 in 2014. This is significant in view of the dominant narrative about the ruling party’s estrangement from Dalits and tribals. BJP has, in fact, increased its tally in both SC and ST seats while Congress — the second top claimant of reserved constituencies — lost three such seats.

Despite marginally increasing its overall Lok Sabha tally from 44 to 52, Congress saw a dent in reserved constituencies where it got only nine seats this year as compared to 12 in 2014.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 20:34
by hnair
Picklu, please heed suryag's warning and post now on in WB thread.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 20:48
by chetak
Karl Modi :wink:


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Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 21:03
by kit
I guess this thread needs to be renamed 2024 general elections :D

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 21:05
by krisna
MahulR, given some information regarding your post here in bengal thread.
viewtopic.php?p=2358260#p2358260

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 21:22
by nandakumar
nits wrote:
Ramu wrote:What happened to the 15 day notice given to RG for proving his nationality?



Supreme Court dismissed it

SC did not quash the Home Ministry notice. All that it did was quashing PIL quoting photocopies of British Company House documents to say that it cannot take cognisance of purported photocopies of documents whose provenance it has no means of verifying authenticity to demand investigations by the Centre. If there indeed is a Home Ministry notice let us see what Rahul Gandhi response is.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 21:24
by sudeepj
.. deleted OT...

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 21:26
by sudeepj
souravB wrote:
sudeepj wrote:
Possible? Its the most probable of all the probable scenarios that Diggy raja has something to do with the tapes.. :rotfl: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well, it is clearly CMS in use. I wonder what do they keep as insurance.


CMS?

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 21:29
by Karan M
Guys - one moderator has already asked you to move RRR discussions to the WB thread. How many more times does the request have to be made before its no longer a request?

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 21:29
by IndraD
Squint Nayan


TMC Leaders joining BJP are highly opportunistic & their hands are deeply drenched with blood of our Karyakartas. At least For the respect of our fallen brothers their entry to BJP shouldnt be cheered



@squintneon

We don't need person like Manirul Islam who has FIR on his head for murder & said he crushed 3 brothers under his feet after state power got his name omitted from FIR

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 21:35
by sudeepj
Karan M wrote:Guys - one moderator has already asked you to move RRR discussions to the WB thread. How many more times does the request have to be made before its no longer a request?


Ill move mine.. Its hard to see the mod warning that was a few posts above Picklus.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 22:08
by ramana
Ramu wrote:What happened to the 15 day notice given to RG for proving his nationality?


New Home Minister will pursue.
Its MHA process now.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 22:41
by Rahul M
re-opened. No more Rammohun Roy discussion here.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 23:07
by Prasad
Did we ever get the full 2011 census data out in public domain?

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 23:36
by VKumar
pankajs wrote:
Shaktimaan wrote:In other news, Mamata Didi has cancelled her attendance at Modiji's swearing-in ceremony tomorrow because Modiji invited the families of BJP karyakartas killed in Bengal to the ceremony.

Modi/Shah couldn't have asked for more of Mamta.


Those who don't attend this time will not be invited next time.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2019 23:44
by souravB
sudeepj wrote:
souravB wrote:Well, it is clearly CMS in use. I wonder what do they keep as insurance.


CMS?

CMS

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 30 May 2019 00:58
by chetak
https://youtu.be/MALR49dfYlA



Conversation with Prof RV on why the NSA should take the threats to Modi seriously





Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 30 May 2019 01:19
by aylamrin
wasu wrote:
Rahul M wrote:this is excellent move.

They should be seated next to Jihadidi at the Ceremony.


Fearing that she might be lynched/booed,spat at, or worse "Jay Shri Ram"-ed, she dropped her plans of leaving the safety of Bengal Police.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 30 May 2019 01:30
by ramana
I disagree with RVaidya for he implies the NSA is lax on PM security.
It's the NSA that spends sleepless nights and days while swamykins take pot shots.

I will ask RV too.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 30 May 2019 02:45
by A_Gupta
303 Is Not An Emphatic Answer, It Is A Profound Question
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/303-is ... d-question
Indians have posed a series of questions to Modi, the kind of questions that doting but expectant parents pose to their prodigious children.

This victory reminds me of a particular interaction I had with the director of the consulting arm of my erstwhile workplace whom I used to report to.

My company, as part of performance appraisals, used to rate people in four categories — ‘outstanding’, ‘exceeds expectations’, ‘meets expectations’, and ‘needs improvement’.

I had notched up the ‘exceeds expectations’ rating for the second successive time and was quite chuffed about it. Well, who wouldn’t be, especially if it was just in the third year of your career and you were possibly looking at a good salary hike because of it?

However, this particular director decided to have a sobering, but in a way, inspiring conversation with me.

He said, “So you have exceeded expectations yet again?”. “Yes”, I replied.

“Do you realise the meaning of this?”, he asked. I had the good sense to stay silent then.

He dropped what was a truth bomb on a 24–25-year-old. “The meaning of this is, if you exceed expectations in the next year, you are still in the ‘meets expectations’ category because you were anyway expected to exceed expectations.”

I realised that what I had shown I could do and my company’s appreciation for what I could do, was not an answer but a question, a challenge posed to me. “Show us what more you can do” — it said.

A similar conversation has happened between the electorate and Modi.

“Here’s my work. I made India the fastest builder of highways in the world, I build 1.5 crore afforadable homes, I built 10 crore toilets and took the sanitation coverage to almost 100 per cent, I electrified almost every home, I showed the guts to do a Balakot….”, and so on, Modi presented his progress card to the people.

“We like what you did and for that, here, take 272 so that you can continue to do your good work. But wait, don’t go and start working as yet! We know what you can do. However, here are 31 more seats for you. It makes it 303, something we haven’t given anyone for 3 decades. Show us what more you can do that we did not imagine you could!”, said the people to Modi.

Modi, the astute politician, I am sure knows that this emphatic victory is not an incremental win but an electoral revolution of sorts. To win 303 in the times of a fragmented polity much unlike the times in which the Congress used to notch up such numbers is huge. It is not a conditional approval but a blank cheque of sorts. “Write the amount you want, do whatever you want with it but ensure you do something that can be remembered for centuries”, the people are saying.
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But what is it that Modi will do as a reply to this massive mandate to create a lasting legacy? That is the question Modi will answer over the next five years. Interesting times ahead.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 30 May 2019 03:41
by Rudradev
One more "result" of 2019 General Election...

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/robert-va ... -treatment

During a hearing before a special CBI court in Delhi today ( 29 May), Robert Vadra claimed that he needed to fly to London for diagnosis and treatment after having developed a tumour in his large intestine, reports India Today. :cry: :(( :mrgreen:

Vadra submitted a medical certificate as proof of the same and appealed for his passport to be returned to him. The court has reserved its order on the issue for 3 June.

Vadra’s counsel K T S Tulsi contended that his client has been fully willing to cooperate in the Enforcement Directorate’s investigation, and it cannot be argued that he would flee. :roll:

The prosecution advocate rejected these contentions and asked that if the certificate had been issued on 13 May, as the date on it mentioned, why hadn’t it been produced before the court earlier.

Further, the lawyer questioned, "Why does the medical certificate say he will take further opinion from London? He can take it from anywhere else. It's not like treatment is not available in India. Why is the medical certificate specifying where he can get the second opinion from?"

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 30 May 2019 03:43
by Manu
He has taken only loose change compared to His Mum-in-Law/Ahmed Patel....not that i fell sorry for him.

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 30 May 2019 03:57
by kit
Rudradev wrote:One more "result" of 2019 General Election...

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/robert-va ... -treatment

During a hearing before a special CBI court in Delhi today ( 29 May), Robert Vadra claimed that he needed to fly to London for diagnosis and treatment after having developed a tumour in his large intestine, reports India Today. :cry: :(( :mrgreen:

Vadra submitted a medical certificate as proof of the same and appealed for his passport to be returned to him. The court has reserved its order on the issue for 3 June.

Vadra’s counsel K T S Tulsi contended that his client has been fully willing to cooperate in the Enforcement Directorate’s investigation, and it cannot be argued that he would flee. :roll:

The prosecution advocate rejected these contentions and asked that if the certificate had been issued on 13 May, as the date on it mentioned, why hadn’t it been produced before the court earlier.

Further, the lawyer questioned, "Why does the medical certificate say he will take further opinion from London? He can take it from anywhere else. It's not like treatment is not available in India. Why is the medical certificate specifying where he can get the second opinion from?"


And I can say for certain that there are better and experienced GI surgeons in India than the UK !! All he needs for a second opinion are investigation reports that can be sent by email. Who is he trying to fool? All the cases against him are stacked up !!

RV does need a holistic treatment right in India :mrgreen:

Re: 2019 General Elections : Results Discussion

Posted: 30 May 2019 04:02
by Rudradev
Yes. Someone should tell Advocate K T S Tulsi that Tata Memorial Cancer Centre in Mumbai is excellent. Conveniently located within a few km of Arthur Road Jail. :mrgreen: