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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 19 Nov 2019 17:09

Karthik S wrote:
Vikas wrote:Sarkar Ji, I trust AS and NM when it comes to politics and talking care of Bhartiya interests.
UT soon will be another CBN and NK who are one trick monkey without BJP support.
Meanwhile the willy Maratha i.e. Kaka Pawar is running his own circles around Sonia and UT and NM adds to the rumor mill by praising them publicly


Hope MH doesn't end up like AP under the hands of BiFs. Priority is not BJP winning but people like YSJ not coming to power.


there seems to be real anger among middle class in MAH and people are cursing having voted for the SS.

whatsapp groups are incensed and people are cursing UT/AT's plans to ally with the NCP/Congi. They are feeling let down and abandoned. The next elections, whenever they may be held will have people lining up to teach the SS a lesson

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Postby pankajs » 19 Nov 2019 17:27

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 117696.cms
In a first, Mamata warns of ‘minority extremism’
COOCHBEHAR: Trinamool chief Mamata Banerjee, in a first ever, brought changes in her rhetoric against BJP and warned people against “minority extremism.” Without naming the Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM) Mamata at a Trinamool workers’ meet in Coochbehar said: “I am watching that there are some extremists among the minorities. They have their base in Hyderabad. Don’t listen to them.”

Minutes after workers’ meet the chief minister went to the Madan Mohan Temple in Coochbehar to offer her prayers before she went to the Rash Mela on the Rajbari gorunds. Mamata’s offering the puja at Madan Mohan Temple comes six days after BJP’s Coochbehar MP Nisith Pramanik came in a grand procession to the temple last Tuesday, performed the puja, spinned the Rash Chakra and offered gifts to the temple.

Political observers reading Mamata’s comment against “minority extremism” and her offering prayers at Madan Mohan Temple together held that the ruling Trinamool is desperate to win over the Hindu votes, both Bengali and Rajbanshi, who hold the key in Coochbehar. At the moment Trinamool has made dents into the Rajbanshi community but is yet to win over the Bengali refugee votes.

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Postby pankajs » 19 Nov 2019 17:30

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Postby vishvak » 19 Nov 2019 17:34

For years I could not fathom Why Maratha would travel all the way to Panipat to fight a distant invader with whom they had nothing to do

Not to go off track but there is a problem with offering war on platter to invaders who have obviously came to loot and plunder. Would shivaji done that in Panipat ? Prolly not.

In modern scenarios, it means bombing the fk outta supplies and tell the giant centerpede-looking armies to walk back from where they came.

In USA the slaveowner s mated nigros like animals and made next generation bigger in size - now the same practice has resulted in African Americans having such towering features. The bollywood seems to miss these little facts. Or infighting in Mughal camp. And such.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby A Deshmukh » 19 Nov 2019 17:38

Vikas wrote:
abhijitm wrote:^^ not surprising eh that they don't teach anything about maratha empire in schools.


In my NCERT school books, There were mainly 3 references to Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj,
1, He used guerilla tactics with rag tag army
2. He was imprisoned by Aurangzeb in Agra and he escaped in a sweets basket
3. Aurangzeb called him mountain rat.
Nothing about his struggles, his wars, his challenges or his coronation but instead we were taught that 'Pious' Zeb used to sew caps for household expenses.

Next chapter was Panipat' 1761 with no reference to the middle period of Maratha empire and its expansion and then it was 1857 with no mention of Sikh exploits.

For years I could not fathom Why Maratha would travel all the way to Panipat to fight a distant invader with whom they had nothing to do and why Mughal King, The so called Emperor of India was MIA in all this.


Maharashtra has a good coverage of Shivaji in school books. But sadly not so much of the Peshwas.

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Postby arshyam » 19 Nov 2019 17:50

Each state has a decent coverage of its own history, probably to make up for the lack of coverage in history published by the NCERT.

I too recall what Vikas-ji said: Shivaji escaping from Aurangazeb hidden in a bag of tomatoes was a highlight, apart from that, the book pretty much dismissed him as a guerilla challenger who didn't appear all that successful (impression we got from the books). Krishnadevaraya's fate was even worse - art and culture at Hampi, and Tenali Raman. One could be excused for thinking that he ruled over a small city and spent his time singing and listening to poetry.

Two major empires that ensured that India as we know it today endured, both dismissed as mere footnotes in our history books. Shame on these distorians, er "historians".

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Postby chetak » 19 Nov 2019 19:02

the SS, as usual in the psyops mode :mrgreen:

if Paul Joseph Goebbels had fathered progeny in India, one would surely know where to find at least one of them.


As if the regular doses of Urdu Shayaris from Sanjay Raut’s Twitter handle were not enough, the Sena has now gone ahead and compared their former allies with the Muslim invader Muhammad Ghori.

Shiv Sena mouthpiece Saamana said that BJP has been ‘ungrateful’ to the Shiv Sena’s contribution to the NDA and ‘backstabbed’ it just like Ghori who incarcerated Prithviraj Chauhan in the 18th battle despite being a recipient of his generosity for the first 17 battles.

The Saamana editorial slammed BJP for ‘removing’ it from the NDA on the death anniversary of Balasaheb Thackeray, who according to the editorial was one of the earliest proponents of the NDA and a pioneer of Hindutva movement. “It was Balasaheb Thackeray who extended his support to the NDA. He talked about Hindutva and Nationalism at a time when some of those running the NDA alliance were not even born,” the editorial said.

Ironically, the Saamnaa editorial did not mention that it was the Shiv Sena, who had made its lone minister Arvind Sawant resign from the union cabinet ahead of its plans to hold talks with Congress and NCP over government formation in Maharashtra.

The article further rebuked the BJP for ‘removing’ the Shiv Sena from NDA without giving them a hearing or calling out a meeting with the NDA parties to discuss their removal. The editorial said that this ‘dictatorial act’ by the BJP is against the democratic ethos of the country. The editorial says that the BJP ousted Shiv Sena unilaterally on the allegations of it getting into talks with the ideological rivals Congress and the NCP.


However, taking a swipe at the BJP, the article questioned BJP’s decision of joining hands with Mehbooba Mufti’s PDP party in Jammu and Kashmir and aligning in Bihar with Nitesh Kumar, who had had publicly criticised PM Modi.

“We were backstabbed by the BJP in Maharashtra. The founder of the Shiv Sena party, Balasaheb Thackeray, who resolutely stood with the BJP when no else was ready to, has been betrayed by them. We are not even given a show-cause notice before being ousted from the NDA,” the article said.


Things between the two former alliance partner turned sour in the aftermath of the Maharashtra Assembly election results when the Shiv Sena demanded a rotational chief minister position from the BJP.

The BJP denied it saying no such agreement was decided before the elections. This led to the Shiv Sena breaking apart from the BJP and foraging for support from ideological rivals NCP and Congress to install a Shiv Sena chief minister in the state. However, they are stuck in limbo as the NCP chief Sharad Pawar continues to prolong the impasse by holding his cards close to his chest.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 19 Nov 2019 20:17

looks like the toppling of the BJP govt in MAH is a long standing project of the NCP, ever since fadnavis cut off the fanged heads of the NCP and Congi and decimated their entrenched infrastructure of patronage, loot and power in all the non urban areas.

It looks like UT has been complicit in this little scheme right from the beginning but seems to have wound up woefully short on the testimonials when the proposal was first mooted to him.

now, completely misjudging his own bargaining power, he has waded in like a bull in the china shop and made a right royal dog's breakfast of it.


Left in the Lurch | Maharashtra



Left in the Lurch | Maharashtra

Kiran D. Tare
November 15, 2019

In 2016, when Ajit Pawar proposed that Uddhav Thackeray join hands with the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) and the Congress to form an alliance and topple the Devendra Fadnavis-led BJP government in Maharashtra, the Shiv Sena chief developed cold feet. Three years later, it is Thackeray who is reviving the proposal to fulfil his dream of "making a Shiv Sainik chief minister" of India's richest state.


Thackeray decided to ditch the BJP after Fadnavis claimed on October 30 that his party had never discussed rotating the chief ministership for two-and-a-half years each. "For the first time, someone has labelled me a liar," a visibly hurt Thackeray told reporters in Mumbai on November 8, more than two weeks after the Maharashtra assembly verdict threw up no clear winners in the 288-member state assembly.

The BJP won 105 seats, the Sena 56, the NCP 54 and the Congress 44. Uddhav claimed BJP president Amit Shah had agreed on the power-sharing formula in a closed-door meeting at his residence. "Had they said they would not implement the formula, I would have agreed. Their denying the discussion has upset me, the BJP is a party of liars," Thackeray said. The parting of ways became formal when he pulled out Arvind Sawant, the lone Sena representative in the Union cabinet, on November 11.

Having parted ways with the BJP (which declined to form the gov­ernment following which Governor Bhagat Singh Koshyari invited Thackeray to stake a claim), the Sena leader has been trying hard to stitch an alliance with the Congress and NCP. In a rare gesture, he went out to meet NCP chief Sharad Pawar at a five-star hotel in Bandra instead of his residence. In another first, he called Congress president Sonia Gandhi and solicited her support in the course of a seven-minute conversation.

The Congress-NCP, however, are in no hurry to back the Sena. They did not release a letter of support within the November 11 deadline the governor had set, resulting in President's rule being declared the next day. To keep Thackeray guessing, Pawar went into a huddle with Sonia Gandhi's political secretary Ahmed Patel in Mumbai on November 12 to discuss if they should form a gov­er­nment with the Sena. "There is need for clarity on several points before reaching a decision," Patel told reporters. "We (the Congress-NCP) will have a discussion first and if we decide to form a government with the Sena, we will have further dis­cus­sions with them (Sena)," said Pawar. "Presi­dent's rule is applicable for six months. We have enough time for discussions."

The Congress-NCP stand has left Thackeray in the lurch. Anticipating that the Congress-NCP would be equally eager to keep the BJP out of power, he had been expecting a quick response from them. "We will have discussion on the points they want clarity on," Thackeray said, putting a brave face on things on November 12. "I also want clarity on several points from them. We will sit together and draft a common minimum programme."

Political observers believe the Sena's commitment to the Hindutva ideology is what is coming in the way of an alliance, though Patel and Pawar were non-committal when asked about it. A source in the Congress says the party wants the post of assembly speaker as well as 12 portfolios if it joins the government with the NCP and Sena. The NCP, too, wants chief ministership for half the term. The NCP, in fact, will be the biggest gainer if an alliance materialises. It will give Pawar the opportunity to be part of the government and rebuild the party, which is in a shambles. According to a close aide, the Maratha strongman is likely to demand key portfolios such as revenue, rural development, finance and water resources. The Congress, too, will get a new lease of life and a boost in morale. "The experienced NCP and Congress ministers will have the upper hand in the alliance compared to the inexperienced Sena members," says political commentator Hemant Desai.

The fate of several important inf­ra­structure projects such as the Nagpur-Mumbai Super Com­m­­unication Expressway, the Navi Mumbai airport, the Mumbai metro and the Mumbai Coastal Road rests on the shape of the new government. Other projects such as the ambitious Sewri-Nhava Sheva sea link, a Chhatrapati Shivaji mem­orial in the Arabian Sea, one for Dr B.R. Ambedkar in Dadar, and a water grid in drought-prone Marathwada could well see the BJP government at the Centre denying environmental cle­arances to a non-BJP government in the state.

There are other twists in the tale. A senior BJP leader says the party has revived its offer to Pawar of acc­ommodating his daughter Supriya Sule in the Union cabinet if the NCP joins the NDA and supports a BJP gov­ern­ment in the state from outside, like in 2014. Simultaneously, the BJP has opened back-channel negotiations with the Congress, asking it not to support the Sena. Patel's meeting with Union transport minister Nitin Gadkari on November 6, the BJP leader says, was part of this. "I guess they discussed the possibility of political uncertainty in Madhya Pra­desh, should the Congress back the Sena," the leader says.

Former Sena CM and now BJP Rajya Sabha MP Narayan Rane says the Congress-NCP is making a fool out of Thackeray. "My party has given me the task of gathering numbers (145) to form a government in Maharashtra," he said on November 12. "I am on the job and am confident I'll finish it soon."

In all these political machinations, Thackeray could well turn out to be the biggest loser. By approaching the NCP and arch-rival Congress, he has shown that no one is untouchable if it can help the Sena form the government. If he fails to grab the CM's post for the party this time, it could well be the beginning of the end of his leadership.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 19 Nov 2019 21:04

twitter


Q: Who has a higher security threat level? Home Minister Amit Shah or members of the Gandhi family?

Shah has Z+ security.
Gandhis have Z+ security.

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Postby pankajs » 19 Nov 2019 21:06

Part of GOI's Judicial reform agenda will get support form the new CJI and that is a good start

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 115537.cms
View: A new CJI provides GoI the chance to have another go at judicial reforms
The entire issue is stuck over creating a mutually agreed, transparent screening process to shortlist candidates for judicial appointments. GoI’s view is that it should, at least, have the rigour applied for selecting, say, secretaries and heads of other statutory bodies.

For secretary-level officials, a 360-degree ‘assessment of suitability’ is carried out by a committee of secretaries and former bureaucrats. It appears that the judiciary and the government agree on the principle of a screening process, but are still divided over who, or what kind of body, should execute this process.

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In a recent interview to ET, Justice Bobde also said he was in favour of creating a national judicial service. GoI has been pushing this idea with the intent to create an all-India cadre of judicial officers from where bulk of future judges could be selected. The proposal has been gone into in considerable detail, including on ways to carry out an all-India test and selection.

The government had also engaged with the outgoing CJI on the subject — which is how the matter got discussed at length. The broad understanding is that creating a service such as this would help significantly in addressing vacancies in the lower judiciary. If the new CJI is supportive, there’s no reason why GoI cannot resume discussions with the aim of achieving closure.
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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KLNMurthy » 19 Nov 2019 21:08

Whatever happened to Raj Thackeray who went around speechifying against BJP / Modi in the Parliament elections?

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Postby vijayk » 19 Nov 2019 21:22

KLNMurthy wrote:Whatever happened to Raj Thackeray who went around speechifying against BJP / Modi in the Parliament elections?

He was paid for his services by Pawar and Italian gang. He is now a hired thug approved by garbage left

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Postby vijayk » 19 Nov 2019 21:23

pankajs wrote:Part of GOI's Judicial reform agenda will get support form the new CJI and that is a good start

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 115537.cms
View: A new CJI provides GoI the chance to have another go at judicial reforms
The entire issue is stuck over creating a mutually agreed, transparent screening process to shortlist candidates for judicial appointments. GoI’s view is that it should, at least, have the rigour applied for selecting, say, secretaries and heads of other statutory bodies.

For secretary-level officials, a 360-degree ‘assessment of suitability’ is carried out by a committee of secretaries and former bureaucrats. It appears that the judiciary and the government agree on the principle of a screening process, but are still divided over who, or what kind of body, should execute this process.

<snip>

In a recent interview to ET, Justice Bobde also said he was in favour of creating a national judicial service. GoI has been pushing this idea with the intent to create an all-India cadre of judicial officers from where bulk of future judges could be selected. The proposal has been gone into in considerable detail, including on ways to carry out an all-India test and selection.

The government had also engaged with the outgoing CJI on the subject — which is how the matter got discussed at length. The broad understanding is that creating a service such as this would help significantly in addressing vacancies in the lower judiciary. If the new CJI is supportive, there’s no reason why GoI cannot resume discussions with the aim of achieving closure.


They better reform jusdiciary before the BIF gets their nominee as CJI. He will be there for 2 years

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Postby Rony » 19 Nov 2019 21:49

If BJP Offers 50:50 Deal, Happy To Revive Alliance: Sena Sources

The Sena claims that as far as the alliance with the Congress-NCP is concerned, when it comes to chief ministership, the party will only agree to an entire five-year term for itself.

Sena sources say the party is "happy to revive its alliance with the BJP" if the BJP reverts to the 50-50 chief ministership formula.

But sources say they are aware the BJP is chasing the NCP to stymie the Sena.

The formula offered by the BJP, say sources, includes a role in the government for the NCP and the President's post for Mr Pawar

If no formula works, the Shiv Sena will prepare for Maharashtra elections, sources said.

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Postby Sachin » 19 Nov 2019 21:55

Meanwhile what is happening at the "communist liberated citadel" of New Delhi, the JNU?
About 100 JNU students detained, some injured in lathicharge by police
* Social media posts says even ABVP is involved in the protest
* Numerous "facts & figures" of the fee & hostel fee structure in JNU; some talk about steep increase while the majority talks about the abysmally low hostel & mess fees.
* But at least in the social media groups in KL the focus is on aspect. The age bracket of "students". Trolls on Delhi Police men feeling guilty after having to lathi charge "students" who were in their father's age, and all the way to some JNU "students" escaping the lathi hits because police mistook them to be teaching staff :lol:.

Looks like the game plan of the commies is to make so much ruckus and then demand a debate in Parliament; with M/s A.Shah & Na.Mo themselves having to explain stuff. That would give this rotten "University" a pan-India coverage (increasing its importance).

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Postby pankajs » 19 Nov 2019 22:12

Sachin wrote:Meanwhile what is happening at the "communist liberated citadel" of New Delhi, the JNU?
About 100 JNU students detained, some injured in lathicharge by police
* Social media posts says even ABVP is involved in the protest
* Numerous "facts & figures" of the fee & hostel fee structure in JNU; some talk about steep increase while the majority talks about the abysmally low hostel & mess fees.
* But at least in the social media groups in KL the focus is on aspect. The age bracket of "students". Trolls on Delhi Police men feeling guilty after having to lathi charge "students" who were in their father's age, and all the way to some JNU "students" escaping the lathi hits because police mistook them to be teaching staff :lol:.

Looks like the game plan of the commies is to make so much ruckus and then demand a debate in Parliament; with M/s A.Shah & Na.Mo themselves having to explain stuff. That would give this rotten "University" a pan-India coverage (increasing its importance).

The AS/NM plan is exactly the same except with opposite objective.

When earlier the professors were harassed inside the campus the GOI remained a mute spectator and VC did a public rudali but did not do anything. This was repeated multiple times till the students too to street. Why was the situation allowed to come here instead of getting nipped in the bud?

Me thinks, Shas/Modi want the world to see what kind of hoolignism goes in the name of student politics inside the campus before they swoop in to bring order. Give them long-rope and once the students are discredited, walk in straighten stuff. The same thing had happened last time too when the tukde-tukde protest was the culmination. GOI moved in only after the students lost sympathy with a large section of society. I think this will end similarly.

Btw, GOI should fix the base hostel/etc charges for all centrally funded universities indexed for City and Inflation. That should make the protesting students look like leeches that they are. IF SC/ST/OBC students in IITs/IIMs can pay much higher hostel charges why can't JNU students?

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Postby pankajs » 19 Nov 2019 22:27

Rony wrote:If BJP Offers 50:50 Deal, Happy To Revive Alliance: Sena Sources

The Sena claims that as far as the alliance with the Congress-NCP is concerned, when it comes to chief ministership, the party will only agree to an entire five-year term for itself.

Sena sources say the party is "happy to revive its alliance with the BJP" if the BJP reverts to the 50-50 chief ministership formula.

But sources say they are aware the BJP is chasing the NCP to stymie the Sena.

The formula offered by the BJP, say sources, includes a role in the government for the NCP and the President's post for Mr Pawar

If no formula works, the Shiv Sena will prepare for Maharashtra elections, sources said.

1. Sena walked out of the alliance .. Everyone barring their hardcore supports know that. Sena's charge against Shah/Modi will not wash with the masses.

2. Sena is in the most exposed position amongst all the parties in Maha today. They where not only crass but also bombastic with their comments.

3. Why should BJP adjust them, now that Sena's gambit has bombed doesn't seem to have yielded results? IF BJP did not yield before there is no reason to yield now.

4. Sena has to save face and is making demand with a weak hand! Theek hai.

5. The last point but especially highlighted part seems patently manufactured.

6. The threat of election too would not deter BJP. BJP will again get around 120+ and the rest will probably land in the same position. Perhaps BJP and NCP will gain a bit at the cost of Sena and CON.

We will be back to square one with similar equations laid out. BJP will form government with outside NCP support like it did in 2014. Theek hai.

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Postby vijayk » 19 Nov 2019 22:50

https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment ... 73661.html

n act of self-censorship, Amazon Prime deletes episode of CBS show Madam Secretary which deals with Hindu nationalism and Kashmir
Aditya Mani Jha
Nov 19, 2019 20:33:06 IST


In what appears to be an act of self-censorship, Amazon India has removed an episode of the CBS show Madam Secretary from its streaming platform, Prime Video. Indian subscribers of Prime Video cannot access the first episode of the show’s fifth season (originally aired 7 October 2018), which is currently tagged with a “video unavailable” message. The other episodes, however, remain available.


Despite repeated attempts, Amazon India has not responded to Firstpost’s queries about this matter.

Madam Secretary is a White House drama along the lines of The West Wing (1999-2006). It follows the career of the fictional Secretary of State Elizabeth McCord (Tea Leoni), a key member of the Democratic administration led by President Conrad Dalton (Keith Carradine).

Here’s what season five episode one, ‘E Pluribus Unum’ (Latin for ‘out of many, one’, the traditional US government motto signifying unity in diversity) is about — it follows Secretary McCord’s attempts to get India and Pakistan to sign a historic nuclear disarmament treaty at the White House. This is probably not the reason why the episode has been removed, however. That reason appears to be the episode’s secondary plot point — its repeated real-world references to Hindu nationalism, Hindu extremists and the Indian government’s woefully inadequate response to (and possible complicity in) majoritarian violence against its own Muslim citizens. There’s also a reference to “India-occupied Kashmir” in the middle of a dialogue.


At the very beginning of the episode, Secretary McCord received the following briefing from a staff member: “Humint* indicates the Indian government has decided not to take any definitive actions to quell Hindu nationalists from violently attacking members of India’s Muslim minority. In fact, a variety of sources indicate the Indian government is siding with the Hindu nationalists, and has deemed any responses that could prevent further attacks as politically dangerous.”
(*Humint, or human intelligence, is a term for information gathered through word-of-mouth)
This, of course, takes its cues from the Modi government’s repeated attempts to downplay the frequency and seriousness of anti-Muslim violence across the country (last month, for example, Union Home Minister Amit Shah denied an increase in anti-Muslim lynchings). There have also been attempts to hide data pertaining to the same; the Hindustan Times ‘Hate Tracker’, which collated such instances, was removed from the newspaper’s website in October 2017, just weeks after its then-editor-in-chief Bobby Ghosh quit “due to personal reasons”.
A little later in the episode, the show doubles down on the calling out of Hindu nationalist violence, in a scene set in an academic conference, where Professor Henry McCord (who also happens to be married to Secretary McCord; played by Tim Daly) debates an Indian Hindu professor, Arnay Vijay (Harsh Nayyar), on this issue
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Amazon India’s decision comes at a time of major concerns over the censorship of streaming platforms. Earlier this month, following reports that Netflix had removed an episode of Patriot Act With Hasan Minhaj from Saudi Arabia (the episode criticised the royal family on several issues, most notably the October 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul), CEO Reed Hastings said something that ought to have been obvious (but for some reason, wasn’t). He said Netflix “isn’t in the truth to power business, we’re in the entertainment business”. In the recent past, there have been several calls by various Hindu nationalist groups and political parties in India to ban shows like Prime Video’s A Family Man and Netflix’s Leila, for what they perceive as “anti-Hindu, anti-India” content.
It remains to be seen whether Amazon India’s decision to censor Madam Secretary will set the tone for other OTT platforms to follow
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First shutdown these XXXX@FirstPost and HT
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Postby Karan M » 19 Nov 2019 22:53

Look at the manner in which this turd has reported the above news about a Hinduphobic piece of drivel. Some Indian journalists have become the worst peddlers of leftist excreta against their own faith and culture.

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Postby Vikas » 19 Nov 2019 22:57

At what point can the Governor recommend fresh elections in the state ?

I have a feeling now that we may not see any govt in MH but instead fresh elections.
Even a few years reign by Pawar and co. will take the state back to 2004. India doesn't have chance or time to keep fixing what Pawar and his cohorts have destroyed.
With Pawar back in saddle, All the terrorists of D-gang can sleep peacefully knowing well that they and their business is safe in Mumbai.
Amongst all the hoohalla, Lets not forget that same Pawar is/was hands in glove with terror inc operating out of Gulf and Pakistan. So I have zero sympathy for him or desire to see BJP getting closer to him.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 19 Nov 2019 23:49

ref: Re-election in Maha ..
pankajs wrote:We will be back to square one with similar equations laid out. BJP will form government with outside NCP support like it did in 2014. Theek hai.

Question is why did the BJP not exercise the option of going with NCP earlier but passed the chance at government formation?

1. Sena has boasted of having the support of 170+ MLAs. BJP took the opportunity to call their bluff. Till date NCP/CON can't seem to get their equations straight!

2. More importantly, they wanted Sena to break the alliance. If BJP has pitched a BJP+NCP(Outside), Sena would have cried dokha and it would have resonated with the mango manoos.

BJP let Sena walk out to shield itself of that charge. Plus gave Sena the opportunity to disrobe publicly for power and CM ship. Plus the long-rope being given now it to completely demolish Sena's credibility.

IF after a suitable period, say 2 months, BJP where to form a government with the outside support of NCP like in 2014, Sena's inevitable charge of dokha will not fly with the mango manoos. Sena broke the alliance. They were given an opportunity and ample time to cobble up their government and they failed! BJP will reluctantly agree to run a minority government to save the people from a re-elections and further instability. :wink:

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 20 Nov 2019 01:56

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby nachiket » 20 Nov 2019 02:04

All of these delays, chaos and confusing statements are classic Pawar tactics to leave everyone confused while he plots. He is just proving his dominance to UT who is increasingly desperate and scared that his gambit has failed miserably and making sure that UT understands that if/when a SS CM takes charge in MH the relationship between him and Pawar will be the same as that of Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi in UPA government.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 20 Nov 2019 03:26

Pawar for President is an obvious joke...there is no chance of that till he is acquitted in the moneylaundering case filed by ED.

At the moment the big picture is that Pawar Sr, Pawar Jr, Antonia, Pappu, Praful Patel, and others in NCP and INC are under law enforcement investigation with several cases under prosecution. The example of P. Chidambaram has also sent a chill down the spines of all corrupt netas. Recently BMC has been targeted by the taxmen, presumably this is striking at the heart of the Sh!t Sena's financial arrangements.

So ultimately all these parties NCP, INC, and SS have serious underlying issues that make it difficult for them to outwit the BJP either alone or together. It isn't much fun playing NCP-INC-SS politics in Maharashtra if you can't sleep at night worrying that you will end up in the slammer in Delhi.

Again I believe it is the underlying strength and transparency of NaMo Sarkar in Delhi, and the huge LS 2019 mandate, which is making it difficult for these crooks to actually go through with forming a ramshackle goremint. All the media reports on "vote share concerns", "ideology" etc are mostly irrelevant. INC voters in KL couldn't care two hoots about what INC and SS do in MH.

I think now the easiest option is BJP sarkar with NCP outside support, but the best option is that a majority of SS MLAs and MPs break away and merge with the BJP. I wonder what is going on with the SS MPs in Delhi. Getting the majority of them to break away would send a strong signal.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Karan M » 20 Nov 2019 05:51

It would send a signal but also make all other parties paranoid of pairing with the BJP. I think AS, NM have let SS be for that very reason.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 20 Nov 2019 05:55

Tweet about the blog article by Harbir Singh on Aatish Taseer tantrums


Harbir Singh’s brilliant take down of the Left and - Aatish Taseer symbolizes the mothering evil of the Left https://t.co/nY83iQG9ux

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 20 Nov 2019 05:57

chetak wrote:Image


This cartoon made me think it's Shiv Sena that has lost the tortoise shell protection that Bal Thackery worked so hard to create.

UT is like the tortoise without the shell/kavach of BT 's charisma.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby KL Dubey » 20 Nov 2019 06:44

Karan M wrote:It would send a signal but also make all other parties paranoid of pairing with the BJP. I think AS, NM have let SS be for that very reason.


Not at all - exactly the reverse. It will show (if not already clear from the examples of JDU and TDP) that trying to weasel out of the NDA for frivolous reasons will be counterproductive. SS is already occupying the opposition benches now. JDU saw the light and came back, whereas TDP...well.

How does one know AS and NM are letting SS be ? What is on the surface in media outlets is not necessarily the reality. This is their usual approach when confronted with recalcitrant behavior - nearly total silence followed by tough and effective action.

In a broader sense, the churn created by NaMo and Shah within the different one-man/family-business parties, and decline of the INC, are good signs that Bharat is moving away from Western-style democracy that is not useful for our civilization. Binaries like left and right, liberal and conservative, etc are not useful to us. In Bharat the conflict is between dharma (Hindus/Vedic culture/other allies and affiliates) and adharma (alien religions/communism/foreign interference/terrorism/globalism). Dharma is rising up again and the adharmis are running helter-skelter and trying to coalesce into a coherent entity.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 20 Nov 2019 07:05

I think TDP will get absorbed minus the leadership.

I see no other via media.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby A_Gupta » 20 Nov 2019 08:08

vishvak wrote:
For years I could not fathom Why Maratha would travel all the way to Panipat to fight a distant invader with whom they had nothing to do

Not to go off track but there is a problem with offering war on platter to invaders who have obviously came to loot and plunder. Would shivaji done that in Panipat ? Prolly not.

In modern scenarios, it means bombing the fk outta supplies and tell the giant centerpede-looking armies to walk back from where they came.

In USA the slaveowner s mated nigros like animals and made next generation bigger in size - now the same practice has resulted in African Americans having such towering features. The bollywood seems to miss these little facts. Or infighting in Mughal camp. And such.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w ... story.html

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 20 Nov 2019 11:55

ramana wrote:I think TDP will get absorbed minus the leadership.

I see no other via media.


I think that CBN is a lost cause, for reasons all of his own making and his perfidious ambition and also the very sticky fingers which is his trademark, a trademark that is inherent in all southern parties who do not separate the party and the state, financially speaking.

AS has publicly stated that the doors of the NDA are forever closed for the TDP.

He may very well have meant the leadership, given all their treacherous antics in NDA 1 and now in NDA 2. This was a long time coming.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby g.sarkar » 20 Nov 2019 12:02

pankajs wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/in-a-first-mamata-warns-of-minority-extremism/articleshow/72117696.cms
In a first, Mamata warns of ‘minority extremism’

Most probably she is talking of Hindus who are on the way of becoming a minority in West Bengal!
Gautam

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 20 Nov 2019 12:15

g.sarkar wrote:
pankajs wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/in-a-first-mamata-warns-of-minority-extremism/articleshow/72117696.cms
In a first, Mamata warns of ‘minority extremism’

Most probably she is talking of Hindus who are on the way of becoming a minority in West Bengal!
Gautam


owasi is really making her sweat


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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 20 Nov 2019 13:31

Kishanganj, where Owaisi's party won, sits just across the state border from Uttar Dinajpur district of WB. Uttar Dinajpur district is about 70% Muslim with Malda district (51% Muslim) to the south and Murshidabad district (66% Muslim) further south.

Owaisi's win in the neighboring assembly has made Mumtaz wary given the demographics in the adjoining Uttar Dinajpur and Malda / Murshidabad districts to the immediate south. A 5-10% vote split can make the difference a victory and a defeat in closely fought election. Bano-jee know that and has reason enough to be wary. If it was on the UP side on Bihar she wouldn't have cared much.

BJP will not mind Owaisi's entry into Bihar and Bengal politics at all.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 20 Nov 2019 14:51

Asaduddin Owaisi Verified account @asadowaisi

I want my masjid back.




True Indology @TIinExile

True Indology Retweeted Asaduddin Owaisi

When was it "your Masjid"?

It never was. You are a Shia. "Babri Masjid" was run by Sunnis. The last Muezzin of the "Babri Masjid" was a Sunni who managed it as long as it was functional until 1949, and he never allowed Shias inside.

You didn't even have the rights to enter it

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 20 Nov 2019 16:29

First Modi praised NCP in the parliament but he did not single out NCP alone for praise. And now this .. Seems BJP is helping NCP pile pressure on Sena.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 140539.cms
NCP chief Sharad Pawar meets PM Modi over farmers' distress in Maharashtra

And
https://www.news18.com/news/politics/ma ... 93359.html
Nov 20, 2019 3:01 pm (IST)

17 Shiv Sena MLAs Upset with Cong-NCP Alliance | 17 Shiv Sena MLAs are upset against party's decision to form alliance with Congress and NCP, say sources. These 17 MLAs earlier went to meet Uddhav at Matoshree along with senior Shiv Sena leader Manohar Joshi but did not get appointment with Uddhav Thackeray.

Source are just that sources .. not too reliable but just a hint of the turmoil within Sena.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ArjunPandit » 20 Nov 2019 18:01

ArjunPandit wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:Any chance of posting a link?

https://ijheps.org/journal/389/THE-PROC ... UTH-AFRICA

you will have to register there......but the questions I had were
0. is it the complete masterpiece
1. does it take few years to write 8 pages (including half for references)? Afterall i used to take few extra sheets even during a 3 hours exam and quote things much faster even during my school exams
2. how many field trips were organized, if no then why so long? afterall its just an intellectual grandmasti
3. who was the guide and wth was his role?
but then i have heard donkey hunt is more cruely in south of ulanbator in nei mongol..so happy hunting

is a spectral analysis being performed in mongolia ? do mongols have analyzers of such high quality stuff?

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Deans » 20 Nov 2019 18:10

Vikas wrote:
abhijitm wrote:^^ not surprising eh that they don't teach anything about maratha empire in schools.


In my NCERT school books, There were mainly 3 references to Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj,
1, He used guerilla tactics with rag tag army
2. He was imprisoned by Aurangzeb in Agra and he escaped in a sweets basket
3. Aurangzeb called him mountain rat.
Nothing about his struggles, his wars, his challenges or his coronation but instead we were taught that 'Pious' Zeb used to sew caps for household expenses.

Next chapter was Panipat' 1761 with no reference to the middle period of Maratha empire and its expansion and then it was 1857 with no mention of Sikh exploits.
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Similarly, NCERT books tell us that Shah Jahan built great structures like the Taj Mahal & loved his wife. Reality was in the worst famines in recorded Indian history, he spent a large part of the kingdom's wealth (which he believed was personally his) building useless structures like tombs & palaces, or adding to his personal collection of Jewels. Though he had numerous wives (he killed the first husband of his wife of Taj Mahal fame) and concubines, he was not averse to some incest with his daughter.

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Re: 2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby UlanBatori » 20 Nov 2019 19:42

The Hindi textbook said that Shivaji's soldiers brought him the bibi & beti of a defeated (dead) Islamic invader in one of those shoulder-carried containers {to serve as Advisors, I suppose}. Shivaji chided his soldiers, and ordered them ( I mean the BB& Beti) rehabilitated with H&D {in high positions in the Mumbai film industry}, and apologized to them for his soldier's misunderstanding of his standards of conduct. And Advisors.

{UBCN's world-beating Between Any Two Lines Explanation (BATLE) deleted. The news about that Hyderabad Phreedom-Yelling Bibi being given Sedition Charge Notificashun As Award Phor Promoting Understanding Between One Commyoonity and Another Commyoonity, has really shaken us} :eek:

Anyway all this histerical stuff is OT. Back to modern love-fests between thieves..
The Maharashtra Purana in progress, reminds me of a short-story on how two fell in love: He stole her necklace. She stole his wallet. A Match Made in Houristan.


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