2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 20 Dec 2019 13:48

There are reports in Malayalam News media that GoI is holding back on the drafting of Rules to enforce the CAA. They say it is delayed to wait till SC hearing the petitions on 22nd Jan, 2020. No other news media has reported thus. How true is it?

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 20 Dec 2019 13:59

Sachin wrote:
Karthik S wrote:Gurus, above tweets from atri sir. Are they far fetched or are 'they' sensing an opening here as above tweets say.
Don't know whether it is far-fetched or not. But looks like there is really a game plan on to topple the current GoI using non-democratic means. BIF has now realised that Parliament based activity will not work; because pro-BIF parties are now a minority. Other pain problems like J&K etc are all now getting eliminated one after the other. GoI seems to be moving with a clear agenda and good action plan.

So BIF has now changed its strategy. The anti-CAA protest, now slowly being changed to anti-NRC is one such move. A properly done NRC will trap illegals and also show the latest real figures of religion based demographics. This is the last thing which BIF wants to happen at this point of time.

I do agree with Kal Chiron, that in South a different strategy is being adopted. South has not really seen the violent side of Islam, so they are more amenable to psychology based manipulations. In North that is not the case, and so the usual style of violence is taken out. Violence in South India generally is counter productive and BIF knows that.

Well govt's inaction of violent mob will only add to their confidence that the govt will do everything only inside the parliament, outside it, they rule the cities and streets.

Mukesh.Kumar · Post by **Mukesh.Kumar** » 20 Dec 2019 14:33

Sachin wrote:
Cain Marko wrote:Okay, this protest movement seems to be gaining ground. Hope goi knows how to diffuse the situation before it gets out of hand.
That is because protest movement is now slowly becoming a communal riot. GoI fully knows that they are dealing with a communal riot (and not any sort of protest). There is an alert to every police agency to be more active and prepare for the Friday prayers and happenings after that. And more communal riots, expect more polarisation towards Hindu causes. Also in social media I am now seeing a distinct change in the pro-riot gang. From the earlier anti-CAA stance they are now slowly weaseling out by saying that they are anti-NRC. That is when NRC modalities have not even been worked out yet.

kiranA wrote:From what I gather the movement exploded like this due to DP handling of Jamia protest where they broke in to library and smoke bombed students not even protesting.
And Jamia "students" also exposed themselves as grade 1 Islamic religious bigots. The women who were shown as protestors turned out by nothing but Jehadi sympathisers. And these continuous religion induced rioting is only going to cause more polarisation and resentment towards the community.

5 people across religions were shot dead and became martyrs and had huge funerals.
When and where? I am sorry, I actually scan some of the most anti-BJP news papers. Did not see a news item like this.

pankajs wrote:As someone (@Sivab ???) pointed out NRC may not need a parliamentary approval but the core logic remains i.e. to prevent NRC.
The Citizenship (Registration of Citizens and Issue of National Identity Cards) Rules, 2003 - is a key rule which explains the process of maintaining the citizenship register. This is a man made rule, so A.Shah & Co can still bring amendments to it.

Few salient points are;
1. There is a big role for local self government bodies, state governments in this exercise. Central Govt is not owning this activity 100%. Which means that state governments can (and most likely will) play spoil sport.
2. The onus to prove a person a non-citizen is with the government. The individual do not need to take any initiative to get counted. Information when asked for, has to be shared, but violation of this rule only leads to a Rs.1000 fine .
3. The data to be collected on each individual is pretty extensive. Every one should have at least one National ID # to be shared (I guess this means either Aadhaar Card # or Voters ID Card # for the common man, and passport # for the frequent flyers). Names of parents, along with permanent and temporary addresses are also to be collected.

In today's digital world and with the network bandwidth we now have in India we can really use the data generated on each individual. Digitisation of the population data is the key. Let the state governments do the enumeration work, but it has to be done on a mobile phone/tablet device with software made by GoI. What ever a person gives as input can be taken in its face value, but then there should be a triage system being done in the back end. We all know that today's major problem is Bangladeshi illegals. Get them registered as "Bengalis", but then there should be thorough scrutiny of their parents & permanent address - both which is expected to be in West Bengal. Through the NRC data collected from West Bengal & from postal department both these parts can be verified. Suspects can be flagged then and there.

From what I have observed in KL, the main problem which K.P faces is that they don't have a quick way to verify the authenticity of any "Bengali" worker. They all come with some ID card and a W.B address. K.P does not have time & resources to verify that. Very many times K.P who have chased suspects all the way to West Bengal realise that the address which they had was invalid!.

As I had indicated today afternoon, evening and night are key. Friday prayers will light things up. If we don't put a lid on this before Christmas things will get out of hands.

Also willing to be corrected but even among non ROP crowd there is significant support for this. In my company of 200 or so open people openly defending the law are less than 10%. About 60% were ambivalent but slowly they are buying into the narrative of the Left. It's a tall task to push back against this

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 14:43

Majority Indians are very careful when voicing their opinion especially in public but that should not be a worry. Once the SC has a chance to make up its mind most will accept the outcome, whichever way it goes. IF RJB verdict could be accepted inspite of left/lib narrative, CAA too would go the same way.

Everyone rules the street till the GOI danda comes out. India is not a revolutionary country and without the backing of the majority all revolution is bound to fail in India but especially the street revolutions.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 20 Dec 2019 14:45

All said that done, I would be happy if NRC can weed out at least 1 crore illegals. I will settle even for 50 lakhs.

Nikhil T · Post by **Nikhil T** » 20 Dec 2019 14:45

Yagnasri wrote:First order of the business is to close Humanity departments in most of the central universities, IITs and IIMs. Huge waste of peoples money and only creating traitors. So why spend money on them? Sociology students in IITs? Come on.

Yeah because who needs economists, sociologists, linguists when you can just certify them to be traitors. This is insane.

Nikhil T · Post by **Nikhil T** » 20 Dec 2019 14:48

So the protest shifts to Jama Masjid. Police isn’t entering and the protestors are protesting from inside. Chandrasekhar Azad of the Bhim Army has joined the protests inside as well.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 14:53

^^
That is good! Makes for a great visual. Are they going to tear the Jama Masjid down? NOoooooooooooo ...............

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 15:14

THIS is how you do propaganda without lying ... be selected or invite selected or give selected more air-time and don't challenge their selectiveness.

https://twitter.com/kufri/status/1207697610338816000

Kufri @kufri

On @sardesairajdeep @anubhavsinha lies that riots took place only on BJP ruled state, No mention on Secular Bengal where the highest mob carnage too place, Rajdeep stays quite and never interjects to this lie allows the Bollywood thugs to peddle lies.

@coolfunnytshirt @iMac_too

The day I heard Rahul Kanwal start getting one-sided with facts during the attempt of BJP to form the government in Maharashtra, I though something was wrong.

The trend has only intensified since then. Wonder if it is their political beliefs or is it money speaking. Someone is bankrolling all the distorted media coverage on TVs.

Modi/BJP has failed to create a level playing field for itself in the media. AND Amit Shah and all BJP bigwings grace their platform for exclusives!

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 20 Dec 2019 15:15

Nikhil T wrote:Yeah because who needs economists, sociologists, linguists when you can just certify them to be traitors. This is insane.

My dear sir, I am from an Arts background *. Honestly I have never figured out how learning about Henry VI sc-rewed his wives and killed them, or how James I managed to rule England in 1200s helped me in living in today's world. Same goes for going line by line and dissecting Shakespeare's dramas and appreciating (!?) it. Once upon a time the liberal arts was a route to get into civil services. But today there to even the IAS and IPS probationers are IIT material. Totally out dated courses, and a training which perhaps helps people to appear for PSC exams, that is it. For the vast number of liberal arts student population how many of them actually contributed to the nation as economists, sociologists, linguists? We already have seen the JNU research scholars like Kannayya

. The liberal arts colleges are the places which is retained only to keep the communist & socialist folks gain fully employed. These establishment and staff helps in ensuring that the "rob the rich, feed the poor - and we communists are the poor" philosophy to survive.

My personal take is to replace Arts colleges with ITI (Technical institutes) and Poly Technics. Let every one have some practical technical knowledge. James I and Henry XI is not going to help people get food, but a good spanner set may help them.

So the protest shifts to Jama Masjid. Police isn’t entering and the protestors are protesting from inside. Chandrasekhar Azad of the Bhim Army has joined the protests inside as well.

The Bhim Army fellow is just there to keep the meeting look "secular"

. Looks like even Congress does not want to be seen as part of the peacefool crowd, so send in some other irrelevant "secular" party. The pretensions of secularism is now all gone. This so called riots & protests are out and right Islamic movement. Calling it by any other name would be a silly thing to do. By the way, the chief imam of this very mosque is the Bukhari chap who had assured that Muslim community that it is not against them.

*: When I did my graduation the only career option for me was Army, Police or PSC exam writer. It was actually an activity which I did as a hobby which helped me change my career.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 20 Dec 2019 15:20

pankajs wrote:The trend has only intensified since then. Wonder if it is their political beliefs or is it money speaking. Someone is bankrolling all the distorted media coverage on TVs.

Follow the money and then you know who gives the media advertisement revenue. At least in a KL context, I know of a News group who literally was crawling in the streets of Kozhikode/Calicut asking for forgiveness. One of their articles offended the Muslims, and they ensured none of their business groups gave advertisements to this media house. The same media house now gives news which is more poisonous than coming from known anti-Hindu media houses

. And they still retain the fig leaf of being a "neutral media house".

AFAIK, no media house today can survive only based on subscription revenue. How do they get money to send OB vans to every village spewing venom 24/7 and start printed editions from every Panchayath? All through funds generated by other means. In KL it is obvious who controls the business groups, and so it is easy to figure out under whose control the "neutral media" actually is. The BJP even when being a national party do not have this kind of a mechanism in place.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 15:21

And beepul wonder why the GOI is giving them the long rope ... Given a long-enough rope, the Liberandus will fade away after having done their cat-walk and the RoPers will take center-stage. The only way to clarify the nature of protest without officially denouncing them as religiously motivated.

Disclaimer: I haven't watched TV for a while now .. just get my info from the board and twitter.

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1207686558607761408

ANI @ANI

Gujarat MoS for Home, Pradeepsinh Jadeja to ANI: There were 2 incidents of violence in Ahmedabad today. Other than that there is peace in whole state. Around 50 people arrested, we are checking video footage to identify those who were involved, strict action will be taken. #CAA

Not much of a victory but still worthwhile fight ...
https://www.opindia.com/2019/12/the-qui ... mia-video/
Facebook removes The Quint’s “fact-check” where they had declared the ‘Hinduon se Azadi’ video as fake

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 15:41

On Duktha Butt bibi making "Sheros" out of jihadis, I think Butt bibi wanted to discover the Linda Sarsour of India. Our liberandus have these deep seated urge to copy the west.

Butt bibi could herself have become a hijabi but she did not want to get slotted/bracketed so she was always in search of "Sheros". The moment she found these girls, she knew she had hit jackpot and latched on to them immediately without doing any background check.

Alas, for her, her "Sheros" turned out to be jihadis instead of just hijabis and that too they were exposed within 24 hours. I think time is about right for Butt bibi to herself don the Hijab and become that which she is seeking.

RKumar · Post by **RKumar** » 20 Dec 2019 15:58

Dear BRF's don't lose your sleep over recent unfortunate incidents. I hope fake secular class, will see the true colors of CAA protestor.

Even though there were hundreds of people throwing stones at cops at least there were 7 who had the courage to take the stones willings and rescue the policemen. On the other side, it is a shame that police without any protective gear or weapons has to perform the riot control. I still remember when in Haryana, army and police fired on protestors and there was not even a single TV channel or political party protested against it. I hope, home ministry will try to learn from these incidents and prepare themselves better for the NCR implementation.

Law regarding NCR must be passed during the next parliament sessions and enforced at the earliest thereafter and illegals must be put in camps till deported.

praksam · Post by **praksam** » 20 Dec 2019 16:10

Looks like PM modi will take up the discussion on population control bill tonight

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 16:24

https://twitter.com/tv9gujarati/status/ ... 7257532418

Tv9 Gujarati @tv9gujarati

#BREAKINGNEWS Violent anti-CAA stir in Shah-e-Alam area, 24 among #Congress corporator Shehzad khan Pathan detained and brought to Isanpur police station.

#Ahmedabad #Gujarat @AhmedabadPolice @GujaratPolice

Beepul who want to GOI to compromise on CAA, this is what awaits you ...
https://twitter.com/Shehla_Rashid/statu ... 2452462593

Shehla Rashid @Shehla_Rashid

Revoke Citizenship Amendment Act.

Scrap National Register of Citizens.

Lift the Internet ban in Kashmir.

Restore Article 370 and statehood of Jammu & Kashmir.

Reverse bifurcation of Jammu & Kashmir state.

This comes because she is sensing victory on CAA.

This is the "entitled" mentality and you can't defeat it with concessions. Best not to budge on CAA while NRC could still be re-worked given that there has been no movement yet.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 20 Dec 2019 16:29

praksam wrote:Looks like PM modi will take up the discussion on population control bill tonight

Where did you see this?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 16:31

More entitlements ...

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 20 Dec 2019 16:42

I personally have full faith in Amit Shah and he knows what needs to be done.
If Govt looks passive or doesn't want to use heavy danda on the violent miscreants, there must be some reason. I have learnt to trust MAD and their methods.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 20 Dec 2019 17:15

pankajs wrote:On Duktha Butt bibi making "Sheros" out of jihadis, I think Butt bibi wanted to discover the Linda Sarsour of India. Our liberandus have these deep seated urge to copy the west.

Butt bibi could herself have become a hijabi but she did not want to get slotted/bracketed so she was always in search of "Sheros". The moment she found these girls, she knew she had hit jackpot and latched on to them immediately without doing any background check.

Alas, for her, her "Sheros" turned out to be jihadis instead of just hijabis and that too they were exposed within 24 hours. I think time is about right for Butt bibi to herself don the Hijab and become that which she is seeking.

Proves the jinx that Burka bibi only brings kiss of death to anyone she touches. We should ask her to interview leaders of this Urban Naxal movement and take some selfies.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 20 Dec 2019 18:25

Are riots being used as a diversion tactic to find an opportunity to take out the leadership?

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 20 Dec 2019 18:45

darshan wrote:Are riots being used as a diversion tactic to find an opportunity to take out the leadership?

Please, don't even say that.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 20 Dec 2019 19:53

‘Left Trying To Destroy Sanatan Dharma’: Former Nepal Deputy PM Calls For Hindus Of World To Unite To Save Hinduism
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/left-tryi ... e-hinduism
Kamal Thapa, the former deputy prime minister of Nepal and leader of Rashtriya Prajatantra Party, on Friday (20 December) called for all the Hindus of the world to unite in fight against the leftists who are hellbent on destroying the ‘Sanatan Dharma’.

In response to a tweet by Vedic Scholar Dr David Frawley also known as Pandit Vamadeva Shastri, Thapa said that similar to India, the leftists parties, media and the mainstream Nepali Congress too are trying to destroy the age-old Sanatan Dharma.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 20 Dec 2019 20:05

INC, the old master of riots.

Take revenge, don’t spare any cop: Congress Corporator Shehzad Khan Pathan instigated anti-CAA riots in Ahmedabad
https://www.opindia.com/2019/12/ahmedab ... ted-riots/

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Dec 2019 20:06

darshan wrote:‘Left Trying To Destroy Sanatan Dharma’: Former Nepal Deputy PM Calls For Hindus Of World To Unite To Save Hinduism
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/left-tryi ... e-hinduism
Kamal Thapa, the former deputy prime minister of Nepal and leader of Rashtriya Prajatantra Party, on Friday (20 December) called for all the Hindus of the world to unite in fight against the leftists who are hellbent on destroying the ‘Sanatan Dharma’.

In response to a tweet by Vedic Scholar Dr David Frawley also known as Pandit Vamadeva Shastri, Thapa said that similar to India, the leftists parties, media and the mainstream Nepali Congress too are trying to destroy the age-old Sanatan Dharma.

why do you think that the BIF inserted the word "secular" into their constitution too and look at what happened to nepal after that in terms of conversions.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 20 Dec 2019 20:08

Ajay Devgn continues giving 3rd degree burns to Bollywood liberals, invites Major Gen GD Bakshi on stage
https://tfipost.com/2019/12/ajay-devgn- ... -on-stage/

In this tweet, Ajay shared his discussion with Major General GD Bakshi over the movie. Major General GD Bakshi thanked him for the same as he said, “First of all I thank you Ajay for bringing on celluloid the revival of our military power. From 13th to 16th century, we had to bear one invasion after another, one humiliation after another. Our cities were burnt, our temples were broken and our women were raped. From the nadir of defeat, our revival began and you know who started it? It was Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj in the south, Guru Gobind Singh in the north and Lachit Borphukan in the east. I thank you Ajay for bringing forth the portion of history that was deliberately left ignored.”

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 20 Dec 2019 20:14

Mangaluru Cops Arrest 50 People From Kerala Who Posed As ‘Mediapersons’ And Attempted To Enter A Hospital With Weapons
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/mangaluru ... th-weapons
At least 50 men and women who had arrived by the Kerala train were arrested by Mangaluru police for trying to enter the city by posing as mediapersons, Daijiworld reported.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 20 Dec 2019 20:16

https://www.opindia.com/2019/12/analysi ... 24-impact/

Can the anti-CAA protests hurt BJP or Narendra Modi electorally?

An analysis on how the current round of protests around CAA and NRC could affect votes in India.

by Rahul Roushan |December 20, 2019|

When Narendra Modi registered an almost unbelievable victory in the 2014 Lok Sabha elections, even his haters had to admit that he had a nation-wide charisma and appeal that perhaps was matched only by Indira Gandhi in the history of Independent India. Haters deliberately chose Indira and did not go as far back as to Nehru, as comparing Modi with Nehru would have been blasphemy. Also, Modi will have to win a third term in 2024 to be eligible for that comparison.

But comparing Modi’s charisma and hold on politics with those of Indira, even though begrudgingly, was on purpose and with a secret desire. The purpose was to claim that Modi was as autocratic as Indira, and the secret desire was that like Indira, Modi will falter and impose an Emergency, which will lead him to be voted out of power. This is why the trope “there is an undeclared emergency in the country” is repeated on every possible occasion.

Modi haters are waiting for an Emergency to happen with far more passion and restlessness than any ‘Sanghi’ might be waiting for a Hindu Rashtra to happen.

The 1975 Emergency was preceded by large scale student protests that had snowballed into a public movement. Modi haters want a repeat of that. As a result, mere the sight of anyone looking like a student and shouting slogans gives them hope that emergency is coming and that their long-cherished dream would now come true.

They thought their dreams were about to come true in early 2016 when police arrested a few JNU students for organising an event where anti-India and pro-terrorist Afzal Guru slogans were raised. Just a week or two earlier, another student named Rohith Vemula had committed suicide after being frustrated with the far-left politics he was sucked into.

“Gayaa! Ab Dalit vote bhi gayaa!” (it’s gone! Now even the Dalit vote is gone!) – this is how gleefully a Modi hating ‘journalist’ had reacted after she heard about Rohith Vemula’s death. Note that this happened in January 2016, when BJP had lost two elections in the previous year, first in Delhi and then in Bihar. Delhi was supposed to have taken away Baniya votes of BJP – recall the famous ‘main baniya hoon’ speech by Kejriwal – and Bihar was supposed to have taken away the OBC votes. The ‘liberal’ journalist was excited with Vemula dying as it could take away BJP’s Dalit votes too.

Whether it’s a suicide, a murder, a protest, an accident, a business deal, or a creative product – how it will affect the electoral prospects of Modi is all that the liberal crowd cares. The celebration or opposition by liberals depends on whether something will help or damage Modi. Student protests give them hope of an impending emergency, inherent in which is the hope of Modi being defeated like Indira was defeated post-emergency in 1977 elections.

With this hope, they had made heroes out of part-time-students-cum-full-time protestors from JNU. Rohith Vemula’s death was milked to the hilt at various educational campuses. There were student protests at FTII due to Gajendra Chauhan being appointed Chairman and that too added to the momentum. They even dressed up someone like Hardik Patel as a student leader. Students were restless on campuses and off it, they said. Then they created ‘mahaul’ around lynchistan, the murder of Gauri Lankesh, ghar wapsi, etc. and presented it all as signs of undeclared emergency.

The emergency is here, they shouted. The emergency is here, they dreamt. Revolution they awaited.

However, their dreams were shattered in 2019, when Modi returned with an even bigger mandate. But as it happens, a liberal is never wrong. It’s the people who are wrong. In his mind, a Modi hating liberal is totally convinced that Modi was all set to lose the 2019 elections but Balakot airstrikes changed the environment and stupid people were fooled with hyper-nationalism.

So in the second term of Modi, Modi haters are just repeating everything they did in his first term, with even more restlessness and added viciousness. They are once again dreaming of student protests and revolution, this time around the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA).

First, the Islamist protests at AMU and Jamia were dressed up as student protests. Then the police action against rioters at Jamia was presented as a crackdown on students. Sundry protests at other campuses were then organised and presented as ‘uprising’ in support against ‘crackdown on students’. And all this was followed up with carefully choreographed protests led by Bollywood actors and actresses to show how the student protests are turning into a public movement.

Smooth. No one can stop Emergency now. Anurag Kashyap even tweeted with the Emergency hashtag. QED. The emergency is here.

So will history repeat? Will it fail again like the last time and 2024 could see even more massive mandate for Modi?

Well, 2024 is too far away and no one can say with certainty what will happen, but I do think that Modi is poised to benefit as his haters have refused to learn anything from the 2019 defeat. The nationalism sentiment was ignited among common people much before Balakot airstrikes thanks to the imagined student protests at JNU in 2016. “Bharat tere tukde honge” everyone heard despite clever propaganda by the Left ecosystem to claim that JNU videos were doctored.

Similarly, the current imagined student protests around CAA could ignite Hindutva sentiments among the general electorate, simply because the anti-CAA protests are nothing but either naked Islamism or apologia of Islamism. This despite the clever propaganda being run again to claim Hindus in scullcaps indulged in violence. Notice that they are repeating “JNU videos were doctored” strategy again by coming up with such laughable conspiracy theories. They are just repeating everything they did in Modi’s first term.

If Modi haters are hell-bent upon repeating the history, then history will definitely oblige them and 2019 will repeat in 2024, at least that’s what I feel today.

However, do I really believe that the Modi government is protest proof? That no amount of student protests or public protests can damage its electoral prospects? What if someone says that the current anti-CAA protests should not be compared with the 2016 JNU protests but with the 2011 anti-corruption protests? After all, some guys have cleverly coined the term “IAC” again – then it stood for India Against Corruption and now it stands for India Against CAA.

This is a good argument that should be analysed on its merits. Could this be Anna moment for the Modi 2.0? Could history repeat, but not as 2019 repeating in 2024, but 2014 repeating in 2024?

For that, we’ll have to see why Anna movement succeeded and how it damaged the Congress party, and if the same applies to anti-CAA protests and the BJP.

The major difference between the two protests is the subject. Corruption is something that touches every Indian, while the threat of losing citizenship does not. The anti-Modi strategists made a mistake here. They kept shouting that CAA+NRC was anti-Muslim, and thus they indirectly said that non-Muslims need not bother. It was not a problem like corruption that touched every citizen.

The Left now realises that it was a big strategic mistake. To control the damage, people like Farhan Akhtar spread highly misleading pamphlets claiming that the poor, the Dalits, the Adivasis, the transgenders, and other motley groups could also lose their citizenship. That made no sense really. He essentially was saying that almost 90% of India will be stateless and deported. Deported where? Who will believe such stupid propaganda?

It’s too late for them to convert this protest into some secular-humanist protest, though attempts are on with the help of an ever-obliging mass media. However, they have already indulged in so much of fear-mongering about CAA+NRC being anti-Muslim, that Islamist mobs have now taken things in their hand, which will make sure that the issue continues to be seen as a Muslim issue only.

The other difference is how the two protests affect the respective parties in power. The 2011 anti-corruption protests were instrumental in making the Congress party synonymous with corruption. Not that it was seen as some squeak clean party earlier, but Congress’ image, especially among urban youth, was damaged considerably. Congress ceased to be an option if corruption was your concern.

If we are to admit that the anti-CAA protests are like anti-corruption protests, the worst damage it can inflict upon the BJP is that it will make the party synonymous with being anti-Muslim. Umm…

Let me drop any political correctness here even though I have none, is that really something that can damage BJP more than it has already damaged? Is BJP really seen as a pro-Muslim party currently, or even a party that gets the support of Muslims? And such protests led by Bollywood actors and with support of ‘intellectuals’ most appeal to the urban English-speaking youth. This section has already been bombarded with much more impactful anti-BJP propaganda in shape of stand-up comedy and other sundry ‘activism’.

It does not, however, mean that an average Indian, or rather an average Hindu, doesn’t care if you have an anti-Muslim image and thus BJP has got nothing to worry. In fact, an average Hindu is so much guilt-ridden for just being a Hindu that he could indeed feel that BJP is being unfair to Muslims and thus he should punish BJP.

But this is where the violent protests by Muslim mobs kick in. Such visuals are not going to let Hindus be guilt-tripped into seeing Muslims, especially Bangladeshi and Rohingya infiltrators, as some poor victims. Strengthening of such sentiments will further be helped by ingrained Hinduphobia of the Left; it’s just a matter of time before placards mocking cow, beef, temples, etc. will come out in support of the protests. Some smartass ‘comedians’ are already doing it actually. This behaviour negates any guilt that might have been induced in ordinary Hindus.

Obviously, it depends that how far these images and videos of violent Islamic mobs and ‘woke’ liberals mocking Hindus go. The JNU’s “tukde tukde” slogans reached millions. I remember a friend of mine telling me that he had to go near JNU and took an auto, and the auto wallah referred to JNU as Pakistan. The ‘hyper-nationalist’ and anti-Pakistan sentiments were ignited then only, much before Pulwama and Balakot. The same could repeat now and it could fuel anti-Islamist sentiments. A fear that ‘secular’ India has allowed far too many violent infiltrators in who can put the neighbourhood on fire.

Sometime in early 2024, maybe Narendra Modi will do a grand puja at the newly constructed Ram Temple in Ayodhya or some other such thing. Then liberals will say Modi communalised the ensuing Lok Sabha elections to win it. Truth is, they have communalised it already.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 20 Dec 2019 20:35

Fired up test benches to see what Google is up to. It looks like Google is feeding all CAA related articles from usual suspects to various keywords like police, brutality, freedom, etc.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 20:41

Hmm ...

https://twitter.com/AsraNomani/status/1 ... 1557015557

Asra Q. Nomani, PI @AsraNomani {Fmr @WSJ | @StMartinsPress @HarperOne author | Fmr @Georgetown prof | Cofounder @theMuslimReform | OpenDM email asra@asranomani.com | PI | Speaker @APBSpeakers}

FYI as it's done in the West, working with the left, the Honor Brigade--from CAIR to OIC--has its scope set on demonizing India as "Islamophobic." Kashmir is the new Palestine. Modhi, the new Netanyahu. Propaganda, the modus operandi. Truth, the casualty. Civil war, the objective

The current upheaval in India will only add to their plans.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Dec 2019 20:53

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Wouldn’t it be great if @BDUTT wrote abt this lynching in WaPo?
A simple genuine factual piece?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Dec 2019 20:59

and not to forget that old geezer asking for Lord Ram's engg degree certificate when the construction of Ram sethu came up.

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Those who were asking documents of Lord Ram’s Birth and Birth place, are now saying: from where will we provide documents for #NRC?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 21:09

praksam wrote:Looks like PM modi will take up the discussion on population control bill tonight

Some comments ... but not much
https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/1207693175713718272

Press Trust of India @PTI_News

Niti Aayog to hold consultative meeting to discuss a roadmap for population stabilisation on Friday.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Dec 2019 21:16

in actual fact, this guy needs a "healing touch", and from the bottom.

Ramachandra Guha Verified account @Ram_Guha

The Prime Minister must immediately announce that there is going to be no National Register of Citizens. That simple and single announcement will do more to restore peace and trust than anything else. The country needs a healing touch, and from the top.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Dec 2019 21:20

S Gurumurthy @sgurumurthy

Some people ask what about Srilankan Tamils. Six lacs have been given citizenship. (https://www.indiatoday.in ) They are the first refugees to be given citizenship in lacs. Srilankan Tamil population today is 22 lacs. About 30% of them are already citizens of India @dmk

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 20 Dec 2019 21:21

I have a feeling that there is more illegal immigration than previously thought. Now everyone knows places like east Delhi have a lot of illegals but why there is so much agitation in UP or Ahmedabad or Hyderabad, etc. This is outside WB.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 21:27

^^ re:Ram Guha "CAA to bahana hai NRC rukwana hai"

pankajs wrote:The protest it not about CAA, which is already a law, but to prevent NRC Act from being enacted. Even if BJP does not back-off, it is to scare the other parties whose support will be needed to pass it in RS.

NRC, by itself, cannot be opposed because it will look anti-national so they have chosen to go with this and scare the hell out of the rest of the parties.

Further ...
https://www.ndtv.com/opinion/caa-protes ... es-2151814
Nitish, Naveen, Others Distance Themselves From BJP

But there is pushback now - not just from thousands of students and others but from state leaders; seven Chief Minister say they will not allow the NRC in their states. This lot includes BJP ally and Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar and Naveen Patnaik, Odisha Chief Minister whose party voted for the CAA in parliament.

Guess is posturing is free ... Theek hai

Yet this ramming through of a majoritarian agenda will now meet with resistance as regional parties are clear on opposing the BJP trampling on the federal structure of the polity. Perhaps NDTV put it best in its coverage yesterday, calling it "India versus Lockdown". The adversarial mood of the Modi government is on display as neither Modi nor Shah attempted even a token outreach to the protestors, students on 22 campuses and those whose family members died in the face-off. Lockdown and doubling down.

Bibi, you will have to take haazar janam to understand that bleddy Mudi.

nits · Post by **nits** » 20 Dec 2019 21:33

This is escalating fast, 6 deaths in UP today... To stop all rumours and ill information what is stopping AS or NM to address Nation and present the facts and calm the nerves...

nits · Post by **nits** » 20 Dec 2019 21:34

pankajs wrote:
praksam wrote:Looks like PM modi will take up the discussion on population control bill tonight
Some comments ... but not much
https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/1207693175713718272
Press Trust of India @PTI_News

Niti Aayog to hold consultative meeting to discuss a roadmap for population stabilisation on Friday.

Not gonna happen now , current timing is too explosive to announce it

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Dec 2019 21:36

nits wrote:
pankajs wrote: Some comments ... but not much
https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/1207693175713718272
Not gonna happen now , current timing is too explosive to announce it

"discuss roadman" means any policy is far off in the future ...