2019 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 13 Nov 2019 18:08

This is interesting ...

https://www.firstpost.com/politics/pres ... 30851.html

17:43 (IST)

Congress to meet in Mumbai to discuss 'common minimum programme', reports News18

News18 reports that a Congress meeting will begin soon in Mumbai to discuss a 'common minimum programme' (CMP). The party will hold talks about the CMP and then discuss it the NCP in subsequent meetings.

Seems to suggest that COn will finalize it own version of CMP before it meets NCP ... that means the discussion with SS on CMP has not started yet.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 13 Nov 2019 18:19

Btw, No news on Chidu ... Seems to have enjoyed the hospitality of the GOI far longer then AS.

Hopefully the correct signal has gone out to the corrupt that no matter how high they are, all are answerable before the law.

DK however went back. Did he take any lessons from his stay at the preeminent GOI facility in the national Capital? Anyone knows?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 13 Nov 2019 18:28

https://twitter.com/OpIndia_com/status/ ... 3072236549

OpIndia.com @OpIndia_com

Bhima Koregaon violence: Pune court rejects Urban Naxal Gautam Navlakha’s anticipatory bail plea, says custodial interrogation a must

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 13 Nov 2019 18:37

Another version of who ganged on whome but it is clear that everyone ganged-up on SS

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/maharas ... ns-2131452
The Sharad Pawar-Sonia Gandhi Phone Call That Thwacked Shiv Sena's Plans

Around 5 pm on Monday, Sena chief Uddhav Thackeray in his first ever call to Sonia Gandhi, made a formal request for support. The Congress president promised to get back to him after her consultations.

But about an hour later, Sharad Pawar spoke to Sonia Gandhi and expressed some reluctance to go ahead, saying it was too early to promise support to the Sena.

Mr Pawar reportedly told Sonia Gandhi that many aspects of power sharing still needed to be negotiated, and that he had not given the Sena a letter of support.

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 13 Nov 2019 18:39

pankajs wrote:Btw, No news on Chidu ... Seems to have enjoyed the hospitality of the GOI far longer then AS.

Hopefully the correct signal has gone out to the corrupt that no matter how high they are, all are answerable before the law.

DK however went back. Did he take any lessons from his stay at the preeminent GOI facility in the national Capital? Anyone knows?

He will be the guest for even longer time.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 039742.cms

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 13 Nov 2019 18:41

pankajs wrote:Btw, No news on Chidu ... Seems to have enjoyed the hospitality of the GOI far longer then AS.

Hopefully the correct signal has gone out to the corrupt that no matter how high they are, all are answerable before the law.

DK however went back. Did he take any lessons from his stay at the preeminent GOI facility in the national Capital? Anyone knows?

DK Shivakumar Hospitalised Due to High Blood Pressure, Doctors Recommend Complete Rest

he may be back in hospital, trying to create more sympathy for himself.

his pal, K J george may also soon land up on the next bed

both are mafia parivar moneybags along with some local medical college owners who were caught flogging management seats in black.

this may well be the part 2 of OP Lotus ( with a IT/ED twist)

Vips · Post by **Vips** » 13 Nov 2019 19:04

As in Karnataka, BJP can go after the education mafia in Maharashtra who are majority sugar belt barons from Western Maharashtra and belong either to Congess or NCP.

Mollick.R · Post by **Mollick.R** » 13 Nov 2019 19:05

A noob pooch
When the MH assembly is not dissolved and all parties still got SIX months to try all permutations and combinations, do Horse trading , kiss & licking each others @$$ then what is Chanakayan about this whole urgent Mahamim Raaj imposed thingyy ????

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 13 Nov 2019 20:08

https://www.firstpost.com/politics/pres ... 30851.html
Form govt even now if you have numbers: Amit Shah to Congress, NCP and Shiv Sena

BJP president Amit Shah questioned the Shiv Sena why it didn't raise objections to BJP's statement before the election that Devendra Fadnavis will be the chief minister.

"Before elections, the prime minister and I said many times in public that if our alliance wins then Devendra Fadnavis will be the CM, no one objected back then. Now they have come up with new demands which are not acceptable to us," he told ANI.

Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, Shah also accused the Opposition of playing politics over government formation in Maharashtra while rejecting claims that the Maharashtra governor acted unconstitutionally by recommending President's Rule in Maharashtra.

"Even today if anyone has the numbers they can approach the Governor. The Governor has not denied chance to anyone. A learned lawyer like Kapil Sibal is putting forth childish arguments like ‘we were denied a chance to form Govt’," he said.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 13 Nov 2019 21:37

no truer words have been spoken on the MAH crisis.

twitter

Counted their chickens before any eggs hatched
Roared about an alliance that hadn’t been patched
First deceit
Then conceit
Now wailing and whining that their throne has been snatched!

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 13 Nov 2019 21:55

That Arfa, Zainab , Rohini are all propped up by PRINT, Wire etc and by the usual troika of Sid V, Coupta and Venu. They are completely pro-Islamist and the fact that Ayyub, Bal, et al are now writing for WaPo, NYT etc + the reports in Economist, FT (some of the jokers writing there are complete gungadins or white supremacists) the sudden uptick in Congressional hearings in Khan clearly indicates more than just a simple co-incidence.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 13 Nov 2019 22:24

Karan M wrote:That Arfa, Zainab , Rohini are all propped up by PRINT, Wire etc and by the usual troika of Sid V, Coupta and Venu. They are completely pro-Islamist and the fact that Ayyub, Bal, et al are now writing for WaPo, NYT etc + the reports in Economist, FT (some of the jokers writing there are complete gungadins or white supremacists) the sudden uptick in Congressional hearings in Khan clearly indicates more than just a simple co-incidence.

Islamic terrorists + Progressives/Democrats + globalists + uk/usa deep state ...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Nov 2019 22:25

I would like folks to step back and do some red team thinking or as UB says think like a Paki.

Put yourself in each of the parties shoes and think what is going thru their minds.

From each of the three parties Point of View (POV).

SS, NCP, and Congress.
Facts:

SS: UT is aging. His son is bigger pappu then Rahul.
BJP is gaining and soon will eclipse SS.
SS took a lot of thugs inside their party. Modern day Pindaris - Real Estate mafia, Sugar Barons, street thugs who have personal loyalty to UT.
There is a group of "Hindutva" sainiks who are now sheep and follow the leader.
Therefore its now or never to gain power. Hence made those 50:50 sharing claims.

NCP: Fox is aging.
Has two factions in his group: Nephew and daughter. Doesn't care for nephew too much. Striking a deal will allow him to project his daughter.
Has lots of skeletons and dead bodies in his cupboard- Bank loans, real estate, Dawood Ibrahim
Therefore strike a deal with SS first to make him leave BJP.

INC: Soniaj is aging. Rahul is Pappu #1.
INC irrelevant and out of power. MP and Rajasthan don't have deep coffers.
Thrown out of cash rich Karnataka.
Need power.
Same time Muslim vote-bank will feel slighted if allied with SS who reveled in claiming Babri Demolition

Therefore strike a deal with caveat to make SS recant their ideology.

Now that SS is out of NDA, NCP realizes he should destroy SS USP.

Maharshtra has too many political groups- BJP, SS, NCP, INC, Ambedkarites, now MIM
Of these BJP and SS occupy the nationalist space.
SS and NCP occupy the Maharashtra asmita space.
INC occupies the traditional legacy and minority space.
Ambedkarites and MIM are fringe. And both will eat into INC space.

BJP: After RJMB verdict all the parties will converge on Hindu nationalism. If thats the case why have baggage of pseudo-Hindutva parties that gain from BJP and constantly backstab BJP?
Naidu was the first one to be dropped.
Soon others will get dropped as situation develops.

Nitesh Kumar must be having nightmares.

So NCP strategy is to collpase SS as they wont get a chance and attract atleas the Pindari faction.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 13 Nov 2019 22:28

wasnt BJP offering them Dy CM. They tried to kill the hen that laid eggs.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Nov 2019 22:31

ArjunPandit wrote:wasnt BJP offering them Dy CM. They tried to kill the hen that laid eggs.

All those are off the table now that SS has bared its fangs and found poison missing.

Rattle snakes in the Rockies sometime have a dry bite. That is no poison in the fangs as its exhausted.

UT is now a rattle snake with dry bite.

You can tweet this without attribution.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 13 Nov 2019 22:44

Karan M wrote:That Arfa, Zainab , Rohini are all propped up by PRINT, Wire etc and by the usual troika of Sid V, Coupta and Venu. They are completely pro-Islamist and the fact that Ayyub, Bal, et al are now writing for WaPo, NYT etc + the reports in Economist, FT (some of the jokers writing there are complete gungadins or white supremacists) the sudden uptick in Congressional hearings in Khan clearly indicates more than just a simple co-incidence.

Don't know what the immediate tactical goal the BIF forces are trying to achieve with all this propaganda and hearings circus. My guess is that they don't want KMs to accept the change and move on. All this bogus international attention will only make the KMs irredentist in the hope that 'international community' will deliver them 'azaadi'. It perpetuates the hatred that KMs have for India.

On Rana Ayyub, no doubt she has a lot of support within India from Lutyen gang, but I can bet you, she is an ISI stooge. And I am not saying this as a Pavlovian response applied to p!ssfuls who p!ss on India. Please read the latest WP self-centered sympathy garnering victim-hood tripe on Ayodhya verdict. Very carefully, she does a straight out of the ISI playbook wedge between Hindus and Sikhs. I assume her story is true, but the entire attempt was to show Hindus demons, Muslim haters, and contrast with Sikhs.

Even within India, notice how every 2-bit libtard condescendingly mocks Hindus' sentiments on birth of Ram in Ayodhya, and demand why should Hindus instead of building a Ram temple should instead build a school of hospital. But will anybody in India dare ask Sikhs why are they so gung ho on Kartaurpur for e.g., when the enemy, TSP is clearly playing a Hindu Sikh divide game? Don't get me wrong, my sentiments are fully with Sikhs, but believe me, one move by ModiJi that would have just hinted at going slow on Kartarpur, can you imagine what the Indian traitors like Ayyub and 'international' reactions would have been?

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 13 Nov 2019 22:47

More importantly why hasn't GOI come down like a vengeful hammer on these jerks if they have the proof. For all the tradecraft, I bet these jokers are sloppy with their contacts and likely have a lot of skeletons. What's Modi led GOI waiting for? SD and NYT approval?

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 13 Nov 2019 22:51

I still say SS can atone their sins and salvage the situation by returning to BJP and focus on grass roots. BJP still needs outfits like SS, Bajrang Dal, VHP to carry out jobs that no one else will get their hands dirty with. Mota bhai should be charitable and win the loyalty of SS grassroot cadre to wean them from thugs of SS. Maharastrian lot is not a twisted person. He's passionate and simple guy.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Nov 2019 22:53

CRS, I suggest you go through the election results of May 2019 elections.
Of the 303 seats, 200 were won with over 50% vote share of the huge population that voted.
The composite vote share is 45% which is second only to 1956 when JLN was at the height of charisma.
Even then INC which really was a coalition go 350 seats.
Same as NDA did now.

So all this ranting in international press will not effect one seat.
As for Sikhs except for those settled abroad, Khalistan is a dead issue unless we keep raking it up.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 13 Nov 2019 23:02

Anxietygrips Kerala ahead of Sabarimala verdict – PTI

HIGHLIGHTS

- Over 10,000 police personnel will be deployed in phases in and around the Sabarimala Lord Ayyappa temple during the two month long pilgrimage season.

- The Travancore Devaswom Board has appealed to everyone to accept the judgment whatever it may.

- The SC, on Sept 28, 2018, had lifted the ban that prevented women and girls between the age of 10 and 50 from entering the Ayyappa shrine.

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Political parties, right-wing outfits and devotees in Kerala are keeping their fingers crossed as the Supreme Court is set to pronounce on Thursday its verdict on pleas seeking review of its decision to allow entry of women of all age groups in the Sabarimala Temple.

The southern state had witnessed high drama and protests by devotees and right wing activists last year against the CPI(M)-led LDF government's decision to implement the top court's order.

The verdict was also crucial for the LDF government, led by chief minister Pinarayi Vijayan, as the beginning of the annual pilgrimage season at Sabarimala is just three days away.

The portals of the hill shrine, located in a reserve forest in Western Ghats in Pathanamthitta district of the state, would be opened for the two-month-long Mandalam Makaravilakku season on November 16 evening.

Vijayan had on Saturday taken stock of the preparations being carried out by various departments to ensure a hassle-free pilgrimage.

DGP Loknath Behara has said there will be tight security during the pilgrimage season.

Over 10,000 police personnel will be deployed in phases in and around the Sabarimala Lord Ayyappa temple during the two-month long pilgrimage season.

While the state BJP, on Wednesday, expressed hope that the order on the review petitions, would be in favour of devotees, the Travancore Devaswom Board (TDB), the autonomous temple body which manages the shrine, appealed to everyone to accept the judgment whatever it may.

The apex court, on September 28, 2018, had lifted the ban that prevented women and girls between the age of 10 and 50 from entering the Ayyappa shrine and held that this centuries-old Hindu religious practice was illegal and unconstitutional.

The opposition Congress party and the influential Nair Service Society (NSS),an outfit of the forward Nair community, had also vehemently objected to the Left government's decision to go ahead and implement the verdict.

BJP state general secretary M T Ramesh said if the verdict was against devotees, the party would seek constitutional means to address the concerns of devotees.

"We hope that the verdict on the review petitions will be in favour of devotees.

The stand adopted by the state government was the reason for the earlier judgment that came out against the sentiments of devotees," he told reporters.

The stand taken by the apex court in the Ayodhya case that deity Ram Lalla could be viewed as a special personality, can be applicable in the Sabarimala case also, he said.

A Padmakuamr, the outgoing president of TDB, said the verdict should be accepted with self-restraint and peace.

"The Board's request to everyone is that we should accept the verdict whatever it may be. We hope that the state government will act in accordance with the verdict," he told TV channels.

Attempts by around a dozen women, including activists and journalists in the 10- 50 age group, to climb the sacred hills had come to nought last year as frenzied devotees of Lord Ayyappa heckled and hassled them and forced them to retreat.

However, defying protesters, two women, in their 40s, had entered the Ayyappa temple in January this year and offered prayers scripting history

The apex court, on Thursday, will deliver its judgment on as many as 65 petitions - including 56 review petitions and four fresh writ petitions and five transfer pleas - which were filed after its verdict sparked violent protests in Kerala.

A five-judge constitution bench headed by Chief Justice Ranjan Gogoi had reserved its decision on February 6 after hearing various parties including those seeking re-consideration of the September 28, 2018 judgment

Cheers

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 13 Nov 2019 23:24

Pawarful log ki pawarful batein.

https://www.asianage.com/metros/mumbai/ ... -sena.html
Sharad Pawar, not Congress, delayed letters of support to Sena

Top Congress sources said Mr Pawar was insisting on a 50:50 power-sharing agreement with the Shiv Sena. This means both the Shiv Sena and the NCP getting the CM’s chair for two and a half years each. The NCP also wanted that it should get the first shot to be chief minister. Some of the other conditions include a well thrashed out common minimum programme and equal share for all three parties — NCP, Sena, Congress — in ministries.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 13 Nov 2019 23:33

ArjunPandit, its a point of no return at this stage IMO. Whatever little credibility SS has will evaporate. But who knows, ModiJi and AS can apply their magic and balm, sooth some egos and get them back. But I am not sure its worth it. This is a colossal betrayal by SS. They are licking the boots of the very same traitors who concocted "Hindu terror" bogey and went after a lot of innocent Hindus to show off their 'secularism' and ward off their impotence in the face of TSP's brazenness post 26/11. One of the most shameful cowardly episodes in post independent India.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 13 Nov 2019 23:43

https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-i ... 2019-11-13
Pawar play: Shiv Sena or BJP, which way will the NCP chief tilt?

The Congress and the NCP are yet to finalise their strategy even as Maharashtra has been put under president's rule. Central rule, though, will give all parties a chance to re-evaluate their alliances. In the ongoing impasse, Pawar is the most-sought-after man. Both the Sena and the BJP are wooing him separately to get back to power. The Sena hopes Pawar will bring the Congress on board to form a grand alliance of the three parties. The BJP, on the other hand, has offered to induct Pawar's daughter Supriya Sule in the Union cabinet if he backs a BJP-led government in Maharashtra. Pawar's desire to see Sule in a prominent role in Delhi is well-known.

<snip>

However, Pawar is a pragmatic politician. If the Congress refuses to align with the Sena over its Hindutva agenda, he may well opt to join the BJP-led National Democratic Alliance (NDA). Pawar has already got his grandnephew Rohit elected to the Maharashtra assembly from Karjat-Jamkhed constituency. He believes Rohit has a bright future in the state's politics. Next on his wishlist would be to see Sule established in Delhi. And this may well be his opportunity.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 14 Nov 2019 00:13

IMHO Pawar will not opt to support BJP without Cong buy in. He will not break his pre-poll alliance. Last time he offered support because NCP fought independently. This time too he would have easily given support to BJP first had there not been alliance with Cong. It didn't happend in last 20 days, it won't happen now.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 14 Nov 2019 00:24

BJP MH president Chandrakant Patil played stupid game before the election. Wisdom says if there is a multi player fight then you kill the weakest first, feast on spoils and then go after next weakest. The weakest im MH is cong but instead of going after Cong with full force he decided to raid on NCP. Result, cong survived, ncp remained as is and now he lost his ally, albeit not his fault, but karma plays beach some time.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 14 Nov 2019 00:47

For people who are missing the Turkey discussion -

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5419&start=880

All these semantics that this turk or that turk is lost on the less informed Aam Abduls. The amm abduls belief that the turks ruled them (before Mughals). Please see attached link (and I am here not discussing the truth but the belief that is held by IM) -
http://www.westeastinstitute.com/journa ... -Sahli.pdf

More importantly what is the Turkish impact on Modern India. The khilafat movement was inspired by Turkey (no arap or any other connection). It was also perhaps the first movement after 1857. The mopalla riots can be then by extension led at its feet. Why do not hear much of Turkey from 1920 to 1947 then - cause they lost the WW1 and were on the wrong side of history and England, and for IM to hang their cocktail on Turkey would not have taken them far.

The most visible offspring of that movement and a hardcore Islamist (and a traitor if I may add) was one VP - HA, who almost became V, and Congress is the vessel that carries that immoral and illegal connection under the surface (and hence opening of Cong office in Turkey, read it in this respect). Khilafat movement leaders were blood relative of HA. He holds Turkisht line (with other M leaders in cong).

The Islamization of Cong is in full view - Pappu running to Wayanad (where more than half voter is IM), Turkish connection - Money, sovereign help - getting murkier with all kinds of deal, who knows how far that goes. If anything bad done to our leader by TSP, and they know they are toast, we will have a full blown war, with very bad consequences, but TSP will cease to exist after that. But if same is done by Turkey (and cong would be playing for that angle), it is far and strong and part of NATO and Russian munna right now. We do not have many options to punish.

rgds,
fanne

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Nov 2019 02:27

https://twitter.com/jgopikrishnan70/sta ... 0725285888

J Gopikrishnan @jgopikrishnan70

Nice - Supreme Court 5-Judge bench rules that Office of the Chief Justice of India is a “Public Authority” under the RTI Act...Good that Supreme Court undone the SIN by former CJI KG Balakrishnan....Now former Delhi HC CJ AP Shah is the winner

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Nov 2019 04:17

abhijitm wrote:BJP MH president Chandrakant Patil played stupid game before the election. Wisdom says if there is a multi player fight then you kill the weakest first, feast on spoils and then go after next weakest. The weakest im MH is cong but instead of going after Cong with full force he decided to raid on NCP. Result, cong survived, ncp remained as is and now he lost his ally, albeit not his fault, but karma plays beach some time.

I don't imagine that BJP MAH president Chandrakant Patil would have had so much authority, especially during crucial election game plans, to run a major play like this on his own.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Nov 2019 04:44

https://twitter.com/rahulkanwal/status/ ... 8927918080

Rahul Kanwal @rahulkanwal

Shiv Sena is increasingly convinced that Sharad Pawar is playing a double game. Thackerays no longer certain of NCP’s real motives, which is why Udhav opened direct line with Cong leaders. At this moment Cong seems more keen on partnering with Sena than NCP. Wheels within wheels.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Nov 2019 11:18

Rafale petition dismissed! All clear.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Nov 2019 11:21

https://www.news18.com/news/politics/ma ... 86063.html
Maharashtra Govt Formation LIVE: Shiv Sena Claims President's Rule in State a 'Scripted Act'

Yesterdin, Sena had backed off from pushing its petition filed with the SC and now this. Sena was comfortable yesterday but not today! What has changed?

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 14 Nov 2019 11:22

Rafael case dismissed. Now only Raga's contempt case pending.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 14 Nov 2019 12:10

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/rahulkanwal/status/ ... 8927918080
Rahul Kanwal @rahulkanwal

Shiv Sena is increasingly convinced that Sharad Pawar is playing a double game. Thackerays no longer certain of NCP’s real motives, which is why Udhav opened direct line with Cong leaders. At this moment Cong seems more keen on partnering with Sena than NCP. Wheels within wheels.

NCP and Cong both are playing games now fully knowing SS is under their thumb.

Fun would be if BJP declare they have closed the door for SS. This will left SS with zero negotiation power with ncp and cong.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 14 Nov 2019 12:17

abhijitm wrote:Some of the cong/ncp conditions to SS:
1. No thackray family CM
2. 2.5 yrs CM for ncp
3. 5 yrs deputy CM for cong
4. 1/3rd ministries to cong, other 1/3rd to ncp
5. Key portfolios to ncp
6. SS to clarify its stand on hindutva and secularism

News is cong is now not interested in dy CM post. More bargaining going on.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Nov 2019 12:19

abhijitm wrote:NCP and Cong both are playing games now fully knowing SS is under their thumb.

Fun would be if BJP declare they have closed the door for SS. This will left SS with zero negotiation power with ncp and cong.

Yesterdin, Shah gave an interview especially to address the MH situation where he squarely put the blame for the collapse of the mahayuti at the doors of Sena. Being the smart politician that he is, that is as far as he will go to stress BJP's original position. He knows that will add to Sena's pressure without closing the door.

Now, we have to watch out for counter-fire from Sena, either from Raut or on Samna edit. Sena's reply and its tone will be a good indicator of its optimism on the negotiations that are happening.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Nov 2019 12:21

abhijitm wrote:News is cong is now not interested in dy CM post. More bargaining going on.

NCP/CON are sensing Sena's desperation to strike a deal and CON seems to think it too can have its own CM on rotation. More the merrier. Good!

Sena's mistake was that it went too hot on BJP and publicly. To compound that it seemed too eager to strike a deal with NCP/CON. My best is that NCP at least, tested the eagerness of Sena by stopping the letters of support when Sena has a chance at government formation.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 14 Nov 2019 12:26

pankajs wrote:
abhijitm wrote:NCP and Cong both are playing games now fully knowing SS is under their thumb.

Fun would be if BJP declare they have closed the door for SS. This will left SS with zero negotiation power with ncp and cong.
Yesterdin, Shah gave an interview especially to address the MH situation where he squarely put the blame for the collapse of the mahayuti at the doors of Sena. Being the smart politician that he is, that is as far as he will go to stress BJP's original position. He knows that will add to Sena's pressure without closing the door.

Now, we have to watch out for counter-fire from Sena, either from Raut or on Samna edit. Sena's reply and its tone will be a good indicator of its optimism on the negotiations that are happening.

SS motormouth has replied AS today by taking oath on BT that he didn't lie, and that AS agreed to give CM post. Raut also said AS is trying to hide this from Modi.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Nov 2019 12:30

Ok then. Sena will get something between what it deserves and what it can negotiate in the Sena-NCP-CON combine. Theek hai.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 14 Nov 2019 13:22

"No Roving Inquiry Needed": On Rafale, Top Court Rejects Review Petitions
SC cautions Rahul Gandhi, lets him off in Rafale contempt case

So looks like Rafale case is also now hit its logical conclusion. Congress & "Seculars" - 0 & BJP & "Communals" - 1

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Nov 2019 14:25

So putting hat on as a loyal & optimistic congress worker:

If Congress doesn't strike a deal with SS and BJP top brass want to do nothing with SS, This would most likely result in elections in next 6-9 months.
With NCP+Cong fighting together while SS and BJP fighting elections separately and throwing mud at each other, There is a distinct possibility that UPA maybe in a pole position to form govt. Why then waste time and energy on SS and get tarred knowing fully well that SS would pull the plug on the alliance as soon as its their time to give up the CMship.
BJP and SS will eat into each others share while UPA which currently is closer to 100 mark may win 20-30 extra seats which they lost by lower margin last time and form govt.

Yes there are ifs and buts in this line of thought but every scenario will have its own ifs and buts.